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shz
Germany2686 Posts
On December 24 2012 05:29 Chromatically wrote: Omni, if you vote shz, he might get enough votes to be lynched over you. So he should vote me to survive, just so you can then make case out of his bandwaggoning even though he wasn't conviced? I am not conviced that Omni is scum, and you mostly ignore my ignored my arguments why. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6590 Posts
Corazon READ THE POSTS for god's sake. I am not calling Aqua scum. You had better be joking and I'm just not getting it or it's getting seriously sad. | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
On December 23 2012 23:38 Chromatically wrote: If Omni was scum, he could have switched off to avoid suspicion at being on the major wagon, or maybe he switched off because he doesn't care who is lynched. I talked about this in my case, perhaps you should read it again. I do not understand how we are considering lynching lurkers (threesr/Orange) over the very scummy players in this game. Read the cases I've posted (Omni, shz) and ask yourself for the town and scum motivation. The scum motivation is rampant. Read the case on Orange and ask yourself for motivation. There is no scum motivation. Why would we lynch lurkers over scum? You're right, I've only talked about your "arguments" twice so far. You ignore his whole scummy filter so that you can give him a contrived town read because you don't want to vote your scumbuddy, Of course he should vote you to survive. There's no way that you don't understand that. shz and OmniEulogy scumteam 100% | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
On December 24 2012 05:50 OmniEulogy wrote: I know Chrom I was looking at that as well but I don't have a scum read on Shz at all. The only way I could see Shz as being mafia atm would be if he lied about getting rb'd and tried to defend me because he knows I'm about to flip town. The case he made though was pretty well thought out in my defense and I don't think mafia would really care if I get lynched D2 anyway. It gives them a good lead. Corazon READ THE POSTS for god's sake. I am not calling Aqua scum. You had better be joking and I'm just not getting it or it's getting seriously sad. The only way you're not getting lynched is if you vote shz. Do you agree? | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On December 24 2012 05:52 Chromatically wrote: You're right, I've only talked about your "arguments" twice so far. You ignore his whole scummy filter so that you can give him a contrived town read because you don't want to vote your scumbuddy, Of course he should vote you to survive. There's no way that you don't understand that. shz and OmniEulogy scumteam 100% If you think they are a scum team, who should go off first? Omni or Shz? | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
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OmniEulogy
Canada6590 Posts
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shz
Germany2686 Posts
If I was scum, why should I not go the safe road and wait until a wagon established? If I just want to lynch anyone, I could have waited until later and then cast my deciding vote. Most of the arguments here are no real arguments (not just against me, most of the cases). If someone does A, you will accuse him of being scum, and asking why they did not do B. But if they do B you will accuse him of being scum, and asking why they did not do B. You make cases against players and then against the people who agreed your arguments and voted for that person. But if they don't follow it, you will question that too. See what my problem is? The actions don't matter in your type of arguments. It's your gut-feeling looking for confirmation and finding it everywhere. We had hours of discussion because someone had a typo and "said" he was scum. What. The. Fuck? Please be less emotional and look for patterns instead of weird wording or typos. If anything, over-emotional-posts help scum. Rationality can help us. | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
On December 24 2012 06:01 OmniEulogy wrote: hmm I think even if I vote Shz I'll still get lynched but I'm not going to vote for somebody I don't have a scum read on. Let's examine the possibilities: Omni and shz: Omni knows for certain that he is town. He thinks shz is town, but is not sure. Obviously, he would rather lynch shz over himself, because shz at least has a chance of flipping scum. Omni would vote for shz. Omni and shz Omni knows for certain that shz is town. Obviously, he would rather get shz mislynched than have himself lynched. Omni would vote for shz. Omni and shz Omni knows for certain that shz and himself are both scum. He doesn't want either of them lynched. He might vote for shz over himself, but only if shz is under more suspicion (which he's not). Omni probably wouldn't vote for shz. Scumteam 100%. | ||
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shz
Germany2686 Posts
On December 24 2012 05:52 Chromatically wrote: Of course he should vote you to survive. There's no way that you don't understand that. shz and OmniEulogy scumteam 100% The point is not surviving, but winning. If you lynch me and town still wins, great. I don't care for survival, but I care to win. And if you will end up lynching me, town is one town more down. I can't say for sure that Omni will not flip scum, but I don't think so. And you are getting pretty bold with your "100%" read (the same thing Omni want people lynched for). | ||
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shz
Germany2686 Posts
On December 24 2012 06:10 Chromatically wrote: Omni and shz Omni knows for certain that shz is town. Obviously, he would rather get shz mislynched than have himself lynched. Omni would vote for shz.. But he didn't. Why would he not vote for me? | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
Seriously, the only other reason that he might not vote for you in that circumstance is because he's WIFOM bombing us hardcore. That's a terrible move strategically though, and it's unlikely in the face of the other associations. Looks like shz's not getting lynched today, might as well consolidate to prevent any shenanigainry: ##Unvote ##Vote: OmniEulogy | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6590 Posts
1) I flip town, Shz is cleared, and Chrom doesn't know what to do anymore considering he's going to look like scum. Personally I still think Chrom is town guys. @All How many people haven't said anything today? | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
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shz
Germany2686 Posts
On December 24 2012 06:23 Chromatically wrote: Because you're scum, silly! Seriously, the only other reason that he might not vote for you in that circumstance is because he's WIFOM bombing us hardcore. That's a terrible move strategically though, and it's unlikely in the face of the other associations. Looks like shz's not getting lynched today, might as well consolidate to prevent any shenanigainry: ##Unvote ##Vote: OmniEulogy This is about to backfire so hard. Good luck. If you are scum, well played, you got me all riled up for the first time. If you are town, I'm seriously pissed about that. We'll see after the game. What scum-reads are left if Omni should flip town. What when I flip town. What if we both flip town. What would be your next move? | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Orangeremi (1): OmniEulogy OmniEulogy (6): Orangeremi, cakepie, cDgCorazon, Sylencia, FatChunk, Chromatically shz (1): Kickstart Not voting (3): threesr, shz, Aquanim, Currently, OmniEulogy is set to be lynched! 2.5 hours remaining in day 1. Please PM any of your friendly neighborhood hosts if your vote is counted incorrectly. Remember that you HAVE to vote. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6590 Posts
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shz
Germany2686 Posts
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
But, to summarise my thoughts (besides the above) on each of them: Omni's VT claim is really quite fishy. Seems almost too obvious, but the simplest solution is generally the best. Shz's behaviour in general (wanting to lynch based only on information gained, that list post back a page or two) rubs me the wrong way. Orangeremi hasn't made any whoopsies like these but he's lurked a lot harder. Threesr has been Threesr. Maybe we'll get really, really lucky and he'll be scum, forget to vote, and get modkilled today. I can dream  FatChunk hasn't posted much at all, but he has committed to stuff a little more. Sylencia has been MIA most of the game. Really not impressed with his performance day 2, when he said he'd be free. Kickstart likewise hasn't done a whole lot, but he has pressured a little. And looking at that list, my choice is fairly clear. ##Vote: OmniEulogy The difference between Omni and the rest of that list is basically the VT claim. I don't like it at all. And I don't think there's a mind looking for scum behind his play. | ||
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shz
Germany2686 Posts
You did not mention most of the players in your posts. Care to share your opinion on Chroma, Omni, Orange, Syl, cake, and Aqua? Do you have a reason for the lack of contributions so far? Especially since you claimed "lurking is bad". Do you think it would be okay to lynch you for that? 2 Days and and Night passed, while you are still on your first page of contributions. Who is your top 3 scum, who your top 3 town? | ||
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