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It would be amazing. | ||
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(gg scum) + Show Spoiler + ##Serpensortia: Dandel Ion | ||
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But it should be less than 4 hours. | ||
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If somebody has Powdered Graphorn Horn and/or Chizpurfle carapapaces, I can brew a potion to save Danel lon. Dandel, do you have any of these? | ||
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I think BH just hates me. | ||
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On December 11 2012 10:10 Dandel Ion wrote: Or maybe you shouldn't try to kill people while I got things under LOCKDOWN No, my ability isn't affected by lockdown. It looks like you just have some weird power that makes you immune to my spells. | ||
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I'll have to try the others on you. XD | ||
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Also, I'm not nearly imaginative enough to have created all the spells BH has given me. XD | ||
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Because I can. | ||
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On December 15 2012 10:29 Djodref wrote: Because mafia tends to do that. ##Vote MrZentor Well, DUH. + Show Spoiler + That's why I voted for myself. | ||
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Be thankful. | ||
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I should be more or less actually helpful from now on. | ||
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KILL HIM NOW | ||
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And I'm pretty sure JieXan is scum. | ||
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Something big. Look at all the cases on JieXan. They're all based on his reaction to ME. I had a part in each and every one of those cases in that I formed the foundation of them; why should I repeat what they say to you? | ||
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On December 16 2012 14:01 Djodref wrote: That's not true ! DYH's case is based on how JieXan is going after you. On the opposite, my case against JieXan is based on his scumslip regarding DP and Hapa. And to answer your question, you have to give your own reasons for wanting to lynch JieXan. So we can have a better read on you. I don't understand how you can be so sure that JieXan is going to flip scum and I want you to explain yourself ! Yeah, it might have but a bit of an exaggeration, but you get point. ' And you have an excellent read on me, knowing that I am purposefully not giving you my reasons as to why I think JieXan is scum. Would a scum take that risk? | ||
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And trust me, my scum play isn't this good. | ||
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On December 17 2012 02:18 kushm4sta wrote: because they are active so if they are scum we can catch them later. (whereas people are understandably reluctant to lynch lurkers after d1) loud noobs are terrible lynches d1. It's town to put yourself out there like that. Also shit they do may look scummy, "IM OBV TOWN GUYS THAT IS PROVEN BEYOND DOUBT NOW - MZ" but that could also easily be explained by noobness. I think only a noob would think saying something like "IM OBV TOWN GUYS THAT IS PROVEN BEYOND DOUBT NOW" is scummy. Remember, scum want to fit into the crowd; they want to imitate a regular townie's behavior, because in doing that, they are safest from getting killed. Doing things like saying "IM OBV TOWN" doesn't fit into this agenda. + Show Spoiler + And before anybody says that that's wifom, because scum could easily purposely act strange and then use this argument to try to prove that their town, and that therefore it's meaningless, let me explain something to you. Yes, in theory, mafia could easily also could use this argument to try to prove that their town, but, in practice, mafia are too afraid of risks to try to use this argument to prove that they are town. Only an exceptionally daring or experienced scum player (like Ace) would be both capable and have the courage to do it. And, because I am neither, I am town. Also, I don't want to kill a lurker anymore. | ||
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If I have to seem arrogant to reach that end, so be it. | ||
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On December 16 2012 06:46 Morbidius wrote: Hey guys, sorry i'm a little late to the party. Lurk doesn't always mean scum. and this ##Unvote ##Vote: Morbidius | ||
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These are signs of a nooby scum. | ||
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We should kill Morbidius. | ||
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Look at his last few posts. | ||
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On December 17 2012 04:29 Morbidius wrote: Hmm i made some light accusations against you and now you're full on calling me scum? That's quite the overeaction,which certainly doesn't help your case. I already had in mind the fact that you're either very noob town or noobish mafia. Either way a flip is worth more than you. ##unvote ##vote MrZentor An omgus vote accusing me of omgusing. That's pretty funny. XD | ||
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A scum wouldn't admit to not reading the thread like that. He's just a bad townie, an easy mislynch. | ||
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On December 17 2012 04:44 thrawn2112 wrote: i have no scum read on morbidus whatsoever How is this not scummy? On December 16 2012 06:46 Morbidius wrote: Hey guys, sorry i'm a little late to the party. Lurk doesn't always mean scum. He defends himself before anybody ever accuses me. On December 17 2012 04:29 Morbidius wrote: Hmm i made some light accusations against you and now you're full on calling me scum? That's quite the overeaction,which certainly doesn't help your case. I already had in mind the fact that you're either very noob town or noobish mafia. Either way a flip is worth more than you. ##unvote ##vote MrZentor And he omguses while admitting that he doesn't care if he lynches town or scum. Seriously, how can you NOT have a scum read on him? | ||
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Morbidius is scum, and threesr isn't, so why would we kill threesr? | ||
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On December 17 2012 05:04 Morbidius wrote: More completely unsupported accusations. JX accused you and you jump on the sheep against him. I say he might be right and as soon as everyone unvotes him you jump on me. You don't have good arguments and no good reads. You just post random one liners and random accusations and hope people will go for one of them. And you're a nooby scum who omguses. | ||
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On December 17 2012 05:14 Morbidius wrote: You could've read my posts from yesterday where i said you were my next in line to lynch due to scum suspicion. Again saying its omgus and throwing random shit at me fits your style much better. On December 16 2012 06:46 Morbidius wrote: Hey guys, sorry i'm a little late to the party. Lurk doesn't always mean scum. You're so lucky your scum buddies are shifting the lynch on to somebody else and the town is going with it. | ||
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1. It's unlikely that mafia would flat out insult somebody; they want to be on everybody's good side, so that they don't get lynched On December 17 2012 03:17 Eywa- wrote: If you weren't so busy thinking about how awesome of a player you are, maybe you'd have an answer :-/. 2. ACOLYTE IS VANILLA TOWN. That's right; he didn't scum slip. 3. He is a lot of good posts that I agree with. On December 17 2012 03:07 Eywa- wrote: Are you for real... like, if this is the extent of your contribution, you shouldn't be playing. Clearly players are responsible for reading the thread. On December 17 2012 03:56 Eywa- wrote: That's pretty much how it seems this game is going to go "We want you dead" even though he in no way seems to be guilty. I hope someone sees reason before the vote is final. | ||
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On December 17 2012 05:34 Djodref wrote: I don't think Mordi is a good lynch at this point. I think a policy lynch on theesr is the best we can do right now... Like, I didn't even see a real case against Mordi, and I like his views on mrZ. Policy lynch, anyone ? What?? There are least four. Why do you want to kill a town lurker so bad? | ||
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Then look through each of the cases against him. Then read through Threesr's filter. THERE IS NOTHING SCUMMY IN HIS FILTER. We shouldn't be lynching a lurking town instead of an active scum. If you want to lynch Threesr instead of Morb, list some reasons for why Threesr is scum, and Morb is town. And if you can't find any reasons for why Threesr is scum, but still want to lynch him, that means you are lynching him solely on the fact that he is a lurker, and lynching a lurker should always be a last resort, when you can't find any scum.. | ||
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On December 17 2012 05:49 kushm4sta wrote: So we don't have much time but I want to switch over to Threesr. I read morbidus filter now and it looks nooby/scummy. But i think he will get easier to read as the game goes on. No one has a super strong read on him now... that is simply impossible. People don't want to vote Threesr because he has been so open about being a lurker and not reading, etc. But I am here to tell you THAT IS NOT A TOWN TELL. I know him really well. He is my best friend. I told him about TL forum mafia but I did not tell him to join this game because I played a game with him before on OMGUS.net and he lurked hard. Anyway, he really doesn't give a fuck about what he says. He is extremely capable of saying that shit as either scum or mafia, it's really not a tell either way. ##unvote ##vote threesr gogo 1. I have a very strong scum read on Morb; it isn't impossible 2. People don't want to vote Threesr, because we don't have any indication of his alignment, because he is a lurker. But many of Morb's posts indicate that he is scum, so lynching Threesr would be a shot in the dark. | ||
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On December 17 2012 05:59 drazak wrote: Yeah, and if that happens we've caught 2 scum. Yeah, except the scum will make it seem like he at the last minute thought Morb was town. You guys will accept the story as truth, think both Morb and the scum who changed his vote are innocent, and then we'll lose. | ||
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I'm not paranoid. | ||
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Why aren't you? | ||
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That way we can be more sure about his claim of not receiving blue powers. | ||
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Hapa should be dead. He's not That means one of the following 1. He is town and didn't get blue a. This is one possibility, and if this is true, there's nothing wrong with us revealing who voted for him. 2. He is town and got blue, the the mafia haven't tried to shoot him. a. But this doesn't make sense, because it is more likely that Hap got blue than DP, so the mafia would naturally try to shoot him first. 3. He is mafia and got blue, but heis lying about it, so he doesn't get caught. a. This is another possibility, and we can see if this is true or not by everybody claiming if they voted for him or not. So basically, we can tell if he's scum or not by revealing our votes, and it's unlikely mafia can do anything about it. | ||
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I did not vote for Hapa. | ||
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If he is scum, they probably only took one. It's pretty simple. | ||
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On December 18 2012 02:31 Djodref wrote: This is too much speculation, even for me guys... Anyway, I'm never going to reveal my votes before the beginnig of D3, and even then I would be reluctant. You are being very stupid talking about this openly because you might endanger the other blues. Think about it and just give up these ideas forever -you guys are going to miss DP and Morbidius votes in the count -mafia is going to lie about there votes and fuck you up -other blues are in danger I'll try to get some sleep. I'll wake up to post a case. The only blue that would possibly be in danger is Hapa, and if he were blue, then he would already be dead. Your advice is very broad, and you're not looking at the current situation, in which it would be best for everybody to reveal if they voted for Hapa or not. | ||
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On December 18 2012 02:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Or Mafia decided to wait to kill hapa, or maybe he didnt get the blue role. Witchhunter can shoot at ANY time. It didn't have to be right then. Seriously, so much fucking wifom. 1. Mafia would have tried to shoot Hapa before DP. DP is dead, therefore if Hapa is town, mafia already tried to shoot him. 2. If he didn't get a blue role, there is no harm in us revealing our votes for him. | ||
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Also, because you want to save your precious bullets, the list of people you shoot goes from most townie(Hapa) to less townie but still pretty townie (DP). So, if Hapa is town, the mafia already tried to shoot him. | ||
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On December 18 2012 02:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Again, it depends on what the mafia are trying to do. DP was a good witchcraft target, and apparently they were correct. They might have been afraid Hapa didn't get the votes because he was obvs town and decided not to shoot. I'm not saying it isn't the likely course of action, I'm saying it's really not concrete evidence. Scum want to fuck with your head. No, they want to kill Blues with their silver bullets. If Hapa is town, then he has already been shot by the witch hunter, so there is no reason why we shouldn't reveal who voted for him and who didn't. | ||
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We don't want to put other blues in danger, because it is possible that Hapa is scum, and therefore, scum has another silver bullet. | ||
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You would have known it's not had you been reading the last few pages. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + We are only finding out if Hapa is blue or not. If he is town, then he is no extra danger, because then scum would have already used both of their bullets. If he is scum, then we have caught a scum. | ||
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To summarize, yes, in theory, WIFOM proves nothing. But in practice, it does. | ||
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On December 18 2012 03:59 thrawn2112 wrote: if he is blue he can be easily shot. there is really nothing more to say about it. how hard is it to just wait for the day cycle to do this? And again, I have to quote myself. + Show Spoiler + On December 18 2012 02:42 MrZentor wrote: From the scum perspective, assuming Hapa is town, you know townies are going to vote for the most townie townie, AKA Hapa. Also, because you want to save your precious bullets, the list of people you shoot goes from most townie(Hapa) to less townie but still pretty townie (DP). So, if Hapa is town, the mafia already tried to shoot him. | ||
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It's unlikely, even if he's town, that scum has another bullet. Also, waiting two hours won't stop him from getting shot if he's blue. If the witch hunter has bullets, it can shoot at any time. | ||
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Get used to it. | ||
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On December 18 2012 05:38 drazak wrote: Other than fucking killing hapa if he has a blue power. I've responded to this point so many times. Read. On December 18 2012 05:41 Hapahauli wrote: I'm also saying that there's no way such a vote would be reliable (dead townies + 3 fake scum votes). Your response has been "oh we'll just lynch him anyways and deal with it later" Even if it doesn't prove anything now, it will give us a lot of information later on. | ||
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On December 18 2012 07:05 Hapahauli wrote: Cause I'm really pissed off I have to spend 72 hours talking to some of these idiots. That's irrelevant as to why it would be a surprise to you. Answer the question. | ||
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Now. ##Vote Hapahauli | ||
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On December 18 2012 07:14 Hapahauli wrote: It is relevant. I'm not surprised. I'm pretty fucking pissed that I have to deal with idiots like you. It's more time and sanity than its worth. Do understand that when you answer with "Cause I'm really pissed off I have to spend 72 hours talking to some of these idiots.", that means you're surprised because "I'm really pissed off I have to spend 72 hours talking to some of these idiots." Try to say what you mean next time. Eh? | ||
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Do you understand that when you answer with "Cause I'm really pissed off I have to spend 72 hours talking to some of these idiots.", that means you're surprised because you are "really pissed off I have to spend 72 hours talking to some of these idiots."? Try to say what you mean next time. Eh? | ||
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Scum would have tried to shoot Hapa before DP. And your whole case is based on that not being true. | ||
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JieXian Drazak Mr. Cheesecake Djodref | ||
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On December 18 2012 07:32 DoYouHas wrote: Wrong, your case is based on that assumption being true, mine is not. My case is based on you pushing a strategy that would reveal whether hapa is blue or not when he is still potentially in danger of being silver shot. My case is based on acknowledging that you don't know exactly how scum are operating, which you clearly don't, because you want to lynch hapa. If Hapa was town, then Mafia wouldn't have any silver bullets left. It's pretty simple, and the reasoning behind it is solid. If he were truly a blue, then he would have nothing to fear from the witch hunter. Anyways, originally, my plan was going to reveal if Hapa were scum or not; I had a null read on him. And then Hapa started acting really scummy. Like REALLY scummy. So no, my read on Hapa isn't all based on that assumption being true. In fact, it isn't based on that assumption at all, as my plan didn't succeed, and we didn't gain any information from it. | ||
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On December 18 2012 07:39 DoYouHas wrote: If MrZ was town he would have to at least acknowledge that his assumptions might be wrong. And if that possibility exists, then his actions only have a scum mindset. Any town making his assumptions could just as easily test them when hapa was out of danger. They would be no less convincing, even if we will be missing 2 more votes now. MrZ was rolefishing, plain and simple. The probability of scum having a bullet and Hapa being blue was minuscule. And I'm impatient. | ||
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On December 18 2012 07:43 DoYouHas wrote: What? Again, the only way your plan works is if your assumptions hold true, yes, they aren't bad assumptions, I never said they weren't but they aren't the ONLY valid assumptions. What you just said boils down to, hapa was either vanilla or elected scum, I was trying to figure out which. This is exactly my point. What you did leaves no room for your assumption being wrong. No, there are a lot of things Hapa could be. The reason I was focused on elected scum is that that was a really easy way to catch him and prove he was scum. And he had a good chance of being elected, regardless of his alignment, so there would be a decent chance of him being elected scum. | ||
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On December 18 2012 07:43 Hapahauli wrote: Name one thing substantive in his filter. He's doing nothing but flinging shit around. I don't care whether somebody is pro town or not. I care whether they're town or scum. And Eywa is town. | ||
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Whether somebody is actually scum seems totally irrelevant when deciding who to kill. | ||
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Just sayin' | ||
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On December 18 2012 08:53 Djodref wrote: @ MrZentor Your speculation is totally useless and wrong. Cut the crap and start contributing for real. On December 18 2012 09:03 Djodref wrote: That's why you should stop, if you are not scum of course. We have no fucking way of knowing what scum would do or not do. Maybe they are just trolling us. I could totally imagine that right now... You contradict yourself, saying that my speculation is wrong, then saying that only scum know the validity of my speculation. That was a pretty bad slip. Is this your subtle way of claiming scum? | ||
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And I am beginning to suspect that Hapa isn't scum, but only because of his recent rage. I'm still wondering why you contradict yourself so much. | ||
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We have no fucking way of knowing what scum would do or not do. How do we know that a scum won't try t acot like an helpful, active townie? | ||
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I mean, I was the first to vote for him. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: DoYouHas Also, why does Eywa call me MrV??? | ||
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On December 18 2012 15:34 Djodref wrote: I call everybody out for lurking right now ! Especially MrZentor ! Seriously guys, I live in Korea, you cannot expect me to stay up all night just to see you start to outing the blues. You can check the KST in TL banner, it's now the middle of the afternoon here, so I can start to shit this thread with myself. By first I would like to tell you who I'm going to vote for this round... Not This post was a sarcastic post. I'm not mad to have been called a lurker... Just you have to realize that I'm living on a different timezone. Apparently sleeping is lurking. -.- | ||
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So if you're town, be open minded, don't be stubborn with your vote, and be active. Or we'll probably lose because of you. + Show Spoiler + And everybody will hate you. | ||
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I'm really bad at keeping track of my vote. :/ | ||
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On December 19 2012 06:00 Hapahauli wrote: You said you had your vote on DYH all day, which would imply that you were suspicious of him. But... you never call him scummy, never suspect him, never question him... ever in your filter. So even if we take your comment as "I thought I had my vote on him the whole day" as true, these are your conversations with DYH in "the whole day": Nowhere in this conversation do you even imply suspicion on DYH. This is true of your D1 play as well. In fact, it looks like you're just defending yourself against someone you think is town. Nowhere here do you even question his motives. On the first day, I had a null read on him, so of course I wasn't going to imply suspicion. On the second day, I thought I had voted for DYH after he voted for me, just to show that I was tired of his ridiculous cases. I probably wrote the post and then forgot to post it. :/ | ||
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And I think you're over reacting to this situation. | ||
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Good. Good. | ||
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Look at any of my scum games and compare that play to my play this game. | ||
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Okay, sure, whatever gets you to kill DYH. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349058 Scum http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340480 SK | ||
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You're far too paranoid to me scum. Because he has a far better chance of flipping scum than I do, even though I'm sure DYH is scum. ##Unvote ##vote Mr.Cheesecake | ||
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Also, if DYH is innocent like you now seem to think, and I'm scum, why would I want to take credit for his lynch? Wouldn't I want to make it look like it was your fault we lynched a townie? That makes no sense from a scum perspective. | ||
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But it would also be really difficult to pull off. | ||
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Your case gave me confidence. I don't see what the problem is. | ||
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Paranoia mafia. Day 1 I was convinced DYH was scum. He was going to be lynched, but at literally the last minute my mason buddy BH saved him. DYH ended up being the vigil. I am still scarred from almost killing the vigilante. o.0 | ||
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I thought I already said that. Didn't I say that? I don't know anymore. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + Djo, I made the list of lurkers off the top of my head. You aren't as lurky as I thought | ||
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That he agrees with me on a bunch of stuff I can't really go after him for how he pushed mord. I agreed with his read on JX and his points on Mord were convincing. It is worth noting that he only stopped 1 lynch in order to push a different mislynch. A good way to gain cred as scum and something I think fits with how MrZ plays, but not really alignment indicative. But because I wanted to know if Hap was scum or not from witchcraft votes What really tips the scales for me, and I'm amazed doesn't do the same for the rest of you is his n1 call to reveal voting on hapa And because I didn't want to wait more than 48 hours to get the results It is the timing of this that makes it so scummy. If MrZ was town he would have waited until N2 to bring this out. I am scum. One thing DYH doesn't realize, which is extremely important, is that my plan wouldn't work if I waited for N2, because there would be at least 2 more dead people, and I would have no way to know those people's witchcraft votes. He says I am scum because I didn't wait for N2 to ask for everybody's votes, but he doesn't understand that my plan wouldn't work if I waited for N2. | ||
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If you have another silver bullet, you should shoot him!!!  | ||
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If you shoot him now, this lynch will be much easier for you. You should take that risk. You should shoot him. Just think how cool it would be to have killed 2 blues so early in the game. You'll be a hero. Do it. PULL THE TRIGGER NOW! | ||
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He has to be a blue himself. That's the only explanation. KILL HIM | ||
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And then I *might* do it. | ||
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2. I guess I don't really feel like commenting on him. 3. DYH | ||
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## Vote DoYouHas Just so I don't have to do it later. | ||
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MrZentor refuses to comment on Kush and drops his vote on DYH in a OMGUS way Priceless. XD | ||
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BYYYYEEEEEEEEEEE On December 19 2012 11:34 MrZentor wrote: Give me 18 hours. And then I *might* do it. | ||
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On December 19 2012 07:16 MrZentor wrote: Don't worry, Hapa. You're far too paranoid to me scum. Because he has a far better chance of flipping scum than I do, even though I'm sure DYH is scum. ##Unvote ##vote Mr.Cheesecake The only reason I voted for Mr CC is that I didn't want to get lynched myself; I wanted to kill DYH. | ||
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Or we're going to no lynch and lose. DYH is way more scummy than cc. | ||
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And DYH isn't strong or confident. He's just mindlessly pushing for my lynch. It's an extremely easy to execute and effective scum strategy. Also, I am SUCH an easy target. | ||
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On December 20 2012 02:47 JieXian wrote: I was an easy target D1 was everyone who were pushing for me scum? The reason DYH is scum isn't that he is pushing an easy target. You're missing the point. He's tunneling me, all game, ignoring everything else. That's scum play. Who else has done that? | ||
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On December 20 2012 02:52 Eywa- wrote: I have... But it's because I'm right and I've never second guessed... Evidence just piles on and on and on. No, you have commented on other things beside who you want to kill many times; you're not ignoring everything else like he is. | ||
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On December 20 2012 02:58 Eywa- wrote: Commented on, never changed my mind. Also, CC is neither lurking nor asleep, he is actively posting and ignoring my previous post (likely because he is stuck between a rock and a hard place). Yeah, I don't care if you changed your mind or not. The point is that you are a town with a strong (albeit probably wrong) scum read, so you do more than just tunnel CC. DYH is a scum using his "scum read"on me as an excuse to not participate in any other discussion. | ||
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I have looked at both DYH and CC, and DYH has a much better chance of flipping scum. I'm pretty sure you know I'm town, so you can trust that I'm not scum trying to save my scum buddy. You're not going to be able to get CC lynched today, and it would be really awful for town if we had a no lynch. Vote for DYH. | ||
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On December 20 2012 03:12 JieXian wrote: ok it's 2 am and I'm feeling really sleepy and this really sucks will try to wake up in time for lynch Zentor what happened to the hapa blue shot arguement. djo you basically called it speculation, which is a euphemism for "stupid nonsense There are too many situations in which he wouldn't get killed for that to be a valid reason to think he's scum. When he started getting paranoid and thinking I'm scum, I realized that he was town. | ||
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On December 20 2012 03:24 Eywa- wrote: List of Scum confirmed. Thanks. Any town remaining, vote Mr.Cheesecake now. Stop it. Seriously, stop it. Take a break. Realize it's possible that you're wrong. The majority of people want to lynch DYH. If you keep your vote on CC, you're just allowing scum to manipulate the lynch, instead of forcing them to lynch DYH. | ||
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On December 20 2012 03:33 Eywa- wrote: Do you realise that if anyone consolidates votes on someone from this town, it'll be the scum team? If they don't consolidate votes they lose the vote for sure. Do you realiZe that DYH is most likely scum and consolidating votes gives scum a lot less power over who is lynched? | ||
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Consolidating our votes gives us more power as town over who is lynched. We need 5/6 of town to vote for scum to kill one of them. Please vote for DYH. | ||
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On December 20 2012 03:39 Eywa- wrote: If he doesn't get lynched, you're at fault. There are several scum. We don't have to lynch them in a particular order. I know DYH is scum. CC may or may not be scum. We have to focus on one of them at a time, and there are already a decent number of votes for DYH. Why won't you kill him before CC? | ||
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On December 20 2012 03:45 Eywa- wrote: Because the scum are voting for DYH... In what universe is this good for them if DYH is scum? They need 2 more lynches and that's all... If they get a civilian, they need 1 more lynch and we need 3 more... So explain to me, how does the math work out to have the 3 scum among the people not voting? Well, it would be pretty obvious who was scum if none of them voted for their scum buddies..... | ||
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On December 20 2012 03:49 Eywa- wrote: Eywa- Jie Xian Kushm4ster Drakaz Which 2 of us are scum? Please enlighten me. If I knew that, I wouldn't be lynching DYH. Believe it or not, you don't have to catch the whole scum team at once. You can find and kill them one at a time. | ||
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On December 20 2012 03:50 Eywa- wrote: Assume you're right, wouldn't they vote for Mr.Cheesecake? That'd make 5. Several reasons arguments like those are terrible. 1. Not all of them are on at the same time. 2. They can't communicate instantly. 3. If they got 5 votes on CC, they would still have to wait 2 hours for the lynch without people realizing that they're scum. | ||
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And you better keep your vote there. -.- | ||
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I play scum like me. And this isn't how I play scum. | ||
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<3 | ||
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Or you could kill a mafia member. | ||
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Basically, I'm insanely careful, and I do my best to make myself look townie when I'm scum | ||
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XD | ||
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And I am. | ||
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And Eywa, I'm going to be frank. If you genuinely think I'm scum, you're stupid. | ||
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Then we can know if DYH and Kish are scum or not. | ||
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He didn't put up a fight at all. | ||
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For instance, lynching me would be a really bad idea. + Show Spoiler + Since I'm so pro town. | ||
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On December 20 2012 07:01 JieXian wrote: Why are you still bother info to play dumb when you've basically won What? | ||
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I basically didn't want Hap to get blue. | ||
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I mean, why wouldn't they shoot kush? | ||
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HEY SCUM I GOT BLUE SHOOT ME I HAVE WITCHCRAFT POWER | ||
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I'll get notified, right? | ||
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If they have a bullet. | ||
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I think JX was one scum, but I don't know the other. | ||
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Also, part of me is suspicious of kush. I'm probably just paranoid. | ||
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Kush's claim checks out way too well for me. First of all, scum winning the witchcraft elections would have tried to roleblock someone. No one claimed that they were RB'd night 1. Q: Can scum win witchcraft? What happens? A: If a scum player wins witchcraft he is informed of this fact, but can't pick a power from the list. If he wants to fake using a power he can use his holy pages, or whatever. | ||
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JieXian Drazak Mr. Cheesecake Djodref I think Djo is innocent. So there's a good chance 2/3 of these players are scum. JieXian Drazak Mr. Cheesecake | ||
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Ghost, are you scum? | ||
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Because I'm all townie and stuff. | ||
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With my blue. | ||
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I'm not actually blue, but I'm sure if scum had another bullet, they wasted it on me. My work here is done. c: | ||
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If you're blue you can just get that veteran power. | ||
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