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On December 17 2012 10:14 Eywa- wrote: I think the premise of most people's argument about me is that "I don't play like other people on TL".. Who cares... Mafia is Mafia, you don't need meta game or prior knowledge.
So you did play on other forums before ? Do you have some links to your games ?
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@hapa 2, 3 of your case are all about things he didn't do leading up to the lynch. 2 he ignored yoru defense 3 he didn't push his reads enough 4 his prediction of the mislynch and then gloating about how his prediction was right
You should keep in mind that the time during which this happened was a chaotic shitstorm spamfest. It was not an ideal environment to discuss things. There was no way his scumpicks were goign to get lynched, so why would you bust his balls over not pushing something that was impossible? That pretty much covers 3 and 4 Day 1 isn't it more likely that scum would just latch on to one of the more popular lynches? Stubbornly tunneling you does not make him scum necessarily. I see town do that all the time.
It's not that there's nothing to the case, but it's not even close to 100% certainty, and it doesn't warrant NOPE YOUR SCUM every time he tries to talk to you. Why wouldn't you want more content from him to analyze?
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On December 17 2012 10:16 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 10:14 Eywa- wrote: I think the premise of most people's argument about me is that "I don't play like other people on TL".. Who cares... Mafia is Mafia, you don't need meta game or prior knowledge. So you did play on other forums before ? Do you have some links to your games ? I've played about 20-30 games all with the same group of people offline, I've never survived till the end as village and I've never lost as Mafia.
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eywa, all I want to hear from you is why it makes sense to call hapa town. all you keep saying is that it makes sense. also a scumread other than hapa would be good
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On December 17 2012 10:19 kushm4sta wrote: @hapa 2, 3 of your case are all about things he didn't do leading up to the lynch. 2 he ignored yoru defense 3 he didn't push his reads enough 4 his prediction of the mislynch and then gloating about how his prediction was right
You should keep in mind that the time during which this happened was a chaotic shitstorm spamfest. It was not an ideal environment to discuss things. There was no way his scumpicks were goign to get lynched, so why would you bust his balls over not pushing something that was impossible? That pretty much covers 3 and 4 Day 1 isn't it more likely that scum would just latch on to one of the more popular lynches? Stubbornly tunneling you does not make him scum necessarily. I see town do that all the time.
It's not that there's nothing to the case, but it's not even close to 100% certainty, and it doesn't warrant NOPE YOUR SCUM every time he tries to talk to you. Why wouldn't you want more content from him to analyze?
@ kush
What about his slip ?
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@ Kush
On December 17 2012 10:19 kushm4sta wrote: ... You should keep in mind that the time during which this happened was a chaotic shitstorm spamfest. It was not an ideal environment to discuss things.
Townies aren't scared of posting in a spamfest, since they have nothing to hide. Mafia however, are. The last 25 minutes were a time that we had no solid lynch candidate - a townie would push his top scumread to get lynched here.
Instead he did nothing. He didn't push me, and he didn't even defend Morbidius. Yet after the lynch, he goes "oh welp I told you I was right." That's pretty fucking scummy.
There was no way his scumpicks were goign to get lynched, so why would you bust his balls over not pushing something that was impossible? That pretty much covers 3 and 4
That's ridiculous. The guy was foaming at the mouth that I was scum, and didn't push his scumread. That makes no sense, regardless of how feasible me getting lynched was.
Day 1 isn't it more likely that scum would just latch on to one of the more popular lynches? Stubbornly tunneling you does not make him scum necessarily. I see town do that all the time.
Scum certainly can latch onto a popular choice, but scum don't always do that. In fact, making a huge case on a candidate who has no chance of getting lynched is another very popular choice amongst more active scum players. What better way to prevent a town from consolidating and create chaos in the thread than bringing up an entirely new suspicion at the 11th hour?
It's not that there's nothing to the case, but it's not even close to 100% certainty, and it doesn't warrant NOPE YOUR SCUM every time he tries to talk to you. Why wouldn't you want more content from him to analyze?
There is nothing else to analyze. He's scum.
He also scumslipped, which you've ignored for like the billionth time.
On December 17 2012 05:27 Eywa- wrote: ... Are you done lying?.. How do you expect me not to accuse you especially after you make a case for yourself which is blatant lies. That's 1, 2, 3 non-lurkers (if you count myself which you've jumped on... I can find more, didn't feel like picking through the whole thread. You have yet to jump on a lurker.
I don't know why you guys are standing for a townie that is supposedly "helping the town by bringing lurkers to post through accusing them" when that reason is a blatant lie.
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On December 17 2012 10:32 Hapahauli wrote:@ KushShow nested quote +On December 17 2012 10:19 kushm4sta wrote: ... You should keep in mind that the time during which this happened was a chaotic shitstorm spamfest. It was not an ideal environment to discuss things. Townies aren't scared of posting in a spamfest, since they have nothing to hide. Mafia however, are. The last 25 minutes were a time that we had no solid lynch candidate - a townie would push his top scumread to get lynched here. Instead he did nothing. He didn't push me, and he didn't even defend Morbidius. Yet after the lynch, he goes "oh welp I told you I was right." That's pretty fucking scummy. Show nested quote +There was no way his scumpicks were goign to get lynched, so why would you bust his balls over not pushing something that was impossible? That pretty much covers 3 and 4 That's ridiculous. The guy was foaming at the mouth that I was scum, and didn't push his scumread. That makes no sense, regardless of how feasible me getting lynched was. Show nested quote +Day 1 isn't it more likely that scum would just latch on to one of the more popular lynches? Stubbornly tunneling you does not make him scum necessarily. I see town do that all the time. Scum certainly can latch onto a popular choice, but scum don't always do that. In fact, making a huge case on a candidate who has no chance of getting lynched is another very popular choice amongst more active scum players. What better way to prevent a town from consolidating and create chaos in the thread than bringing up an entirely new suspicion at the 11th hour? Show nested quote +It's not that there's nothing to the case, but it's not even close to 100% certainty, and it doesn't warrant NOPE YOUR SCUM every time he tries to talk to you. Why wouldn't you want more content from him to analyze? There is nothing else to analyze. He's scum. He also scumslipped, which you've ignored for like the billionth time. Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:27 Eywa- wrote: ... Are you done lying?.. How do you expect me not to accuse you especially after you make a case for yourself which is blatant lies. That's 1, 2, 3 non-lurkers (if you count myself which you've jumped on... I can find more, didn't feel like picking through the whole thread. You have yet to jump on a lurker.
I don't know why you guys are standing for a townie that is supposedly "helping the town by bringing lurkers to post through accusing them" when that reason is a blatant lie.
I did post in the last 25 minutes and laid more effort to convince people than most.
Persisting on something that is impossible is insanity.
It was in the town's best interest to not consolidate, you lead them to consolidate on various townies rather than mafia members... How is that in any way noble?
You really have no grounds to accuse anyone, you're guaranteed at this point to have AT least a 50% error rate (given how many people you've accused and you've already promoted the death of a towns person who had nothing on his record to make him look suspicious.
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On December 17 2012 10:23 thrawn2112 wrote: eywa, all I want to hear from you is why it makes sense to call hapa town. all you keep saying is that it makes sense. also a scumread other than hapa would be good Can you quote the so called "slip" exactly..?
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Scumslip is kind of worrisome but it's not in any way definitive... I did the same thing earlier actually. I called you the strongest town.
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holy shit you know what im talking about
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On December 17 2012 10:42 kushm4sta wrote: Scumslip is kind of worrisome but it's not in any way definitive... I did the same thing earlier actually. I called you the strongest town. I don't understand how that's a slip either...
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On December 17 2012 10:43 thrawn2112 wrote: holy shit you know what im talking about I don't remember the exact quotation.
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thrawn and hapa you two have your tongues so far up each others asses wtf is going on with that. Thrawn how are you so sure that hapa is town?
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On December 17 2012 10:42 kushm4sta wrote: Scumslip is kind of worrisome but it's not in any way definitive... I did the same thing earlier actually. I called you the strongest town.
Yes, but you didn't call me town and then in the same sentence express a desire to lynch me.
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On December 17 2012 10:45 kushm4sta wrote: thrawn and hapa you two have your tongues so far up each others asses wtf is going on with that. Thrawn how are you so sure that hapa is town?
Can I answer that for him? Because I'm the most active player here and I'm obv town.
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@Eywa - If you were to manage to get Hapa lynched tomorrow, who would be your next lynch choice given what you know now? Why?
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On December 17 2012 10:40 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 10:32 Hapahauli wrote:@ KushOn December 17 2012 10:19 kushm4sta wrote: ... You should keep in mind that the time during which this happened was a chaotic shitstorm spamfest. It was not an ideal environment to discuss things. Townies aren't scared of posting in a spamfest, since they have nothing to hide. Mafia however, are. The last 25 minutes were a time that we had no solid lynch candidate - a townie would push his top scumread to get lynched here. Instead he did nothing. He didn't push me, and he didn't even defend Morbidius. Yet after the lynch, he goes "oh welp I told you I was right." That's pretty fucking scummy. There was no way his scumpicks were goign to get lynched, so why would you bust his balls over not pushing something that was impossible? That pretty much covers 3 and 4 That's ridiculous. The guy was foaming at the mouth that I was scum, and didn't push his scumread. That makes no sense, regardless of how feasible me getting lynched was. Day 1 isn't it more likely that scum would just latch on to one of the more popular lynches? Stubbornly tunneling you does not make him scum necessarily. I see town do that all the time. Scum certainly can latch onto a popular choice, but scum don't always do that. In fact, making a huge case on a candidate who has no chance of getting lynched is another very popular choice amongst more active scum players. What better way to prevent a town from consolidating and create chaos in the thread than bringing up an entirely new suspicion at the 11th hour? It's not that there's nothing to the case, but it's not even close to 100% certainty, and it doesn't warrant NOPE YOUR SCUM every time he tries to talk to you. Why wouldn't you want more content from him to analyze? There is nothing else to analyze. He's scum. He also scumslipped, which you've ignored for like the billionth time. On December 17 2012 05:27 Eywa- wrote: ... Are you done lying?.. How do you expect me not to accuse you especially after you make a case for yourself which is blatant lies. That's 1, 2, 3 non-lurkers (if you count myself which you've jumped on... I can find more, didn't feel like picking through the whole thread. You have yet to jump on a lurker.
I don't know why you guys are standing for a townie that is supposedly "helping the town by bringing lurkers to post through accusing them" when that reason is a blatant lie.
I did post in the last 25 minutes and laid more effort to convince people than most. Persisting on something that is impossible is insanity.
Your efforts in the last 25 minutes were "please sway your votes." If you think that's a contribution, then I can only shake my head.
So what on earth were you trying to achieve yesterday? You were calling me scum for shits and giggles without the slightest intention to push for my lynch? That's exactly what you're saying right now.
It was in the town's best interest to not consolidate, you lead them to consolidate on various townies rather than mafia members... How is that in any way noble?
How on earth do you know that the people I voted for were townies?
You really have no grounds to accuse anyone, you're guaranteed at this point to have AT least a 50% error rate (given how many people you've accused and you've already promoted the death of a towns person who had nothing on his record to make him look suspicious.
And this makes you not scum how? The way I see it, there's a 99% chance you're scum, and a 1% chance you're an idiot.
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Hell Eywa, you can't keep your story on me straight.
First I'm a bandwagoner that follows votes around. Now I'm a shepard that leads lynches on people.
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On December 17 2012 10:50 DoYouHas wrote: @Eywa - If you were to manage to get Hapa lynched tomorrow, who would be your next lynch choice given what you know now? Why? Next after hapa would be Mr. Cheesecake because he's mafia.
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