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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
December 23 2012 22:00 GMT
#2741

Day 4 - Christmas







Snow falls gently to the ground this joyous yuletide. All is quiet and peaceful.




It is now Day 4. NOTE: the day ends in 72 hours at Wednesday, Dec 26 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 22:00 GMT (+00:00)-- on Christmas, the Inquisition stays home and prays.

Make sure to get your ONE witchcraft vote into Blazinghand and Keirathi by that time.


When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 23 2012 22:01 GMT
#2742
hapa's team can be djo or cc or kush it's hard to say for me right now because so everyone is buddying him.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 23 2012 22:02 GMT
#2743
nice.. I actually have more to say but I procrastinated it for too long, hold on
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:08 GMT
#2744
Owned scumteam. Owned.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:08 GMT
#2745
On December 24 2012 06:59 Hapahauli wrote:
I won the witchcraft elections. I'm Jailkeeping Kush today for the following reasons:

A CC/Djo scumteam has four NK options
1) Kill ghost. Not a good idea, since that would confirm my green check on him.
2) Kill me. Not a good idea, since they're pushing me for a mislynch + it would confirm ghost as town.
3) Kill JieXian. Not a good idea, since JX is trying to lynch me.
4) Kill kush. Best idea, since kush believes Djo is scum.

If kush doesn't die, I either successfully roleblocked scum, or I blocked the NK of the scumteam. I'm convinced the latter is correct.

Alternatively I could gamble on a roleblock, but it's 50/50. I could DT check, but I have a high risk of getting roleblocked tonight by scum.

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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:09 GMT
#2746
Kush, can you please corroborate my story by confirming that you were roleblocked?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:14 GMT
#2747
@ JieXian

Thoughts on this development?
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 23 2012 22:22 GMT
#2748
Hapa's case on Eywa

On December 22 2012 07:33 Hapahauli wrote:

Eywa-


As an additional note, I initially took a lot of townie vibes from Eywa's "mood-shift" in Day 2. However, when you look at his analysis over those days... it's pretty... not... convincing...
1) A votecount list calling a bunch of people "possible scum" (also calls DYH "not scum")
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386816&currentpage=70#1397
2) A list putting suspicion on virtually every single player in the game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386816&currentpage=71#1402
3) A "hypothesis" spreading suspicion on multiple players (also defends DYH)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386816&currentpage=74#1462



That's very hypocritical since that's what hapa has been doing all game: spreading suspicion over everybody and even agreeing with eywa's cases

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 18 2012 12:20 Hapahauli wrote:
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On December 18 2012 12:11 Eywa- wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:55 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:50 Eywa- wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:49 Hapahauli wrote:
By the way, if you think I'm "possible scum," and think CC is "scum," why is your vote on me at the moment? Is it some pressure vote of sorts?

Dr.Chessboard isn't going to be elected in the fall, I must push my vote to someone who might.


Please please stop with the name-ribbing. We're not playing the "let's yell at each other game" anymore. We're playing the "let's be calm and rational people trying to find scum" game. Just call him CC, Cheesecake, or whatever - name mixups just aren't necessary.

As for your vote, it seems like only two players (yourself and JieXian) would support such an idea right now. I wouldn't call it feasible. However, I'm interested in hearing what you have to say about your other "Possible Scum" candidates. You have Draz, Kush, and Djo marked as possible scum, and I'd be interested to hear more on them.

Also, you have DYH marked as "not scum", which I find odd considering his lurkiness so far.


I think DoYouHas has taken a far too impersonal approach to the game so far... He hasn't really seemed to care what has gone on and generally has just sponged off other people, really doesn't make sense to call him mafia. Also, when attacked he hasn't fled

Jie Xian is all over the place without having changed personalities, normally when a mafia member realizes that what he is doing is suspicious, he slowly adapts. The mistakes which you may think Jie Xian makes, he's been making all game, it's not from pressure or anything because while under pressure and not, he's the same.

Kush's lurking is suspect because of how he approaches it, he'll take on scenarios up till he's the topic of conversation at which point he's gone till the conversation turns again. He's just awkward and doesn't feel quite right. Also, his first vote antics were odd to say the least

If MrV is scum, he's ridiculously good, because I see no traces of scum whatsoever. He's been over the fire while still not changing at all similarly to Jie Xian, which in itself isn't definitive, however, when others have, it's hard to count these guys as real threats.

CharlieChaplain is just scummy, he doesn't answer questions about himself and has only ever targeted civilians. Sure, he's under a lot of stress, but stress doesn't translate into not being able to answer one simple question. His slip ups are numerous.

Draskal is that lurker which literally never posts anything insightful... There's no way to tell either way what he is, so it's best to leave him since if we get one wrong, we're in hot water.

Djoref is just... Well let's just say he's given just about everyone a criminal case which proves their guilt... This does not add to his credibility... This does not make him look good, makes him look scum. He's been head hunting for a while.

You've been my target from the start, ever since I read your first day posts, your slip ups have been many, I don't believe you to be innocent.



Thanks for the reads. I think we're sharing much more common ground than we both realized.

You're spot on with DYH. His play is indeed really impersonal, and this "emotional detatchment" from the game I find rather scummy. Townies are often really emotional, wild, and crazy. There are certainly exceptions (i.e., scum can be emotional), but complete emotional detachment in the manner exhibited by DYH is strongly suggestive of scum. Do you agree?

Drazak is a rather interesting case, because he's normally very lurky as town and scum. I'm getting town vibes from him based his passivity, which strangely enough is indicative of his town play.

MrZ is far too attention-seeking this game to be scum. I think we both agree about that.

JieXian, I'm a bit torn on. I don't like his play, however, he has some guts to OMGUS me given how violent I've been most of Day 1. I'm willing to see that as townie for now, and hopefully we both can talk a bit more calmly tomorrow.
##Unvote

Kush and Djodref are two players I have to look at in a lot of detail. With how this game is working out, I'm pretty sure they're scum. They're very uninvolved in the game, and for the most part have been sitting back and watching us fight.

So here's my theory; everyone in the game that's been screaming at each other is town. The scum, DYH, Kush, and Djodref have been sitting in the shadows eating popcorn and watching ourselves tear each other apart.

Whaddya think?



There's also being plain misleading

On December 22 2012 07:33 Hapahauli wrote:
So Eywa turned down voting the guy he was convinced was scum (Mr.CC) in favor of voting his top town read an hour prior for zero rationale. The only motivation I can attach to his actions is that he wanted someone dead - anyone but his scumbuddy DYH.


It's not his top town read but his only town read, and he agrees
On December 23 2012 05:22 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 05:22 JieXian wrote:
On December 23 2012 05:21 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 23 2012 05:19 JieXian wrote:
I didn't state my town reads either and I've been getting a lot of shit from you with the morbid case. He just doesn't have to post every single townie read he has


What does this have to do with the matter at hand JX? I'm not attacking him for not posting town reads. I'm attacking him because he went after the one town read he posted!


ok so we can agree that eywa voted his ONLY town read and not his TOP town read


Yes we can. What's the difference?


The difference is that hapa was lying and trying to frame someone as scummy when he isn't, which you have been doing to eywa the whole game by calling anything he can scummy




I'll continue after I get my sleep
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:27 GMT
#2749
EARTH TO JIEXIAN. I Jailkeepered Kush.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:29 GMT
#2750
Anyway

##Vote Djodref
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:31 GMT
#2751
In other news, Djo and Mr.CC, you can resign, since this game is over in practical purposes. I'll prove this in a bit.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 22:44 GMT
#2752
Why town wins:



Firstly, we're going to no-lynch today at worst.

Mr.CC, Kush, and JieXian vs. Hapa, Ghost, and Kush.

We win the game today if Jiexian switches. If not, we no-lynch.



Secondly, I can PROVE that I'm town tonight through the witchcraft elections.

Mr.CC, Kush, and JieXian can vote for one candidate.
Ghost, and Kush can vote for me.
I will not vote, and I will still win the election.



Therefore, I will be able to prove that I'm town, which will prove that ghost is town after this day-cycle is over.

The jig is up Mr.CC/Djo. GG.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 23:02 GMT
#2753
Oh I screwed up that previous post a bit. Corrections are underlined:

On December 24 2012 07:44 Hapahauli wrote:
Why town wins:



Firstly, we're going to no-lynch today at worst.

Mr.CC, Djo, and JieXian vs. Hapa, Ghost, and Kush.

We win the game today if Jiexian switches. If not, we no-lynch.



Secondly, I can PROVE that I'm town tonight through the witchcraft elections.

Mr.CC, Djo, and JieXian can vote for one candidate.
Ghost, and Kush can vote for me.
I will not vote, and I will still win the election.



Therefore, I will be able to prove that I'm town, which will prove that ghost is town after this day-cycle is over.

The jig is up Mr.CC/Djo. GG.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 23 2012 23:02 GMT
#2754
I'm not scum, and I really don't think CC is scum.
Right now, I'm hesitating between a ghost/Hapa scumteam and JX/Kush scumteam.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 23:05 GMT
#2755
Humor me Djo, why is this not scummy?

On December 24 2012 06:35 Hapahauli wrote:
It seems pretty obvious that Mr.CC is scum at this point. He was setting up to lynch me all before Eywa's flip:

Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 06:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In all seriousness if Eywa is town, I'd say hapa is scum tho.

Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 06:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 06:44 JieXian wrote:
On December 23 2012 06:41 kushm4sta wrote:
no idea who the scumbro is if it isn't eywa


HAPA?


Then we can lynch hapa / djo tomorrow and gg win?

Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 06:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
If you flip town Eywa, I'll lynch Hapa tomorrow.

Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 06:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 06:55 Eywa- wrote:
On December 23 2012 06:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
If you flip town Eywa, I'll lynch Hapa tomorrow.

Doubtful, but you can talk the talk all you want. Notice, Cheesecake making 2 separate promises about who's getting lynched tomorrow if I'm town?


Hey I'll lynch Djo or Hapa if you're town.


There's zero reason Mr.CC should have been playing the speculating game in this manner. He was 100% balls-out convinced that Eywa is scum. This stuff shouldn't even cross his mind, much less his end-of-the-day filter being littered with it.
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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
December 23 2012 23:11 GMT
#2756
On December 24 2012 08:05 Hapahauli wrote:
Humor me Djo, why is this not scummy?

Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 06:35 Hapahauli wrote:
It seems pretty obvious that Mr.CC is scum at this point. He was setting up to lynch me all before Eywa's flip:

On December 23 2012 06:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In all seriousness if Eywa is town, I'd say hapa is scum tho.

On December 23 2012 06:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 06:44 JieXian wrote:
On December 23 2012 06:41 kushm4sta wrote:
no idea who the scumbro is if it isn't eywa


HAPA?


Then we can lynch hapa / djo tomorrow and gg win?

On December 23 2012 06:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
If you flip town Eywa, I'll lynch Hapa tomorrow.

On December 23 2012 06:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 06:55 Eywa- wrote:
On December 23 2012 06:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
If you flip town Eywa, I'll lynch Hapa tomorrow.

Doubtful, but you can talk the talk all you want. Notice, Cheesecake making 2 separate promises about who's getting lynched tomorrow if I'm town?


Hey I'll lynch Djo or Hapa if you're town.


There's zero reason Mr.CC should have been playing the speculating game in this manner. He was 100% balls-out convinced that Eywa is scum. This stuff shouldn't even cross his mind, much less his end-of-the-day filter being littered with it.


This is scummy, but that's not enough to get me sold on a scum CC. He was really convinced that Eywa was scum, and I don't think that he really consider the case where Eywa was going to flip town seriously.
I really feel CC sincere and passionate in his interactions with Eywa...
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 23 2012 23:12 GMT
#2757
On December 24 2012 08:11 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 08:05 Hapahauli wrote:
Humor me Djo, why is this not scummy?

On December 24 2012 06:35 Hapahauli wrote:
It seems pretty obvious that Mr.CC is scum at this point. He was setting up to lynch me all before Eywa's flip:

On December 23 2012 06:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In all seriousness if Eywa is town, I'd say hapa is scum tho.

On December 23 2012 06:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 06:44 JieXian wrote:
On December 23 2012 06:41 kushm4sta wrote:
no idea who the scumbro is if it isn't eywa


HAPA?


Then we can lynch hapa / djo tomorrow and gg win?

On December 23 2012 06:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
If you flip town Eywa, I'll lynch Hapa tomorrow.

On December 23 2012 06:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 06:55 Eywa- wrote:
On December 23 2012 06:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
If you flip town Eywa, I'll lynch Hapa tomorrow.

Doubtful, but you can talk the talk all you want. Notice, Cheesecake making 2 separate promises about who's getting lynched tomorrow if I'm town?


Hey I'll lynch Djo or Hapa if you're town.


There's zero reason Mr.CC should have been playing the speculating game in this manner. He was 100% balls-out convinced that Eywa is scum. This stuff shouldn't even cross his mind, much less his end-of-the-day filter being littered with it.


This is scummy, but that's not enough to get me sold on a scum CC. He was really convinced that Eywa was scum, and I don't think that he really consider the case where Eywa was going to flip town seriously.
I really feel CC sincere and passionate in his interactions with Eywa...


Passionately tunneling him. I'd understand if he sarcastically quipped once that he would lynch me if Eywa flipped town. This is not the case. He is far too concerned about Eywa flipping green for this to be legit.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 23 2012 23:17 GMT
#2758
wow hapa thanks for saving me from my first nk i guess?

if i was jk would I have gotten a pm?
cause I didn't get any pm
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 23 2012 23:18 GMT
#2759
Also hapa this makes no sense to me. Why would I be nk?
ghost and you are better targets by faaar, and both of you seemed like you were also going to vote for djo, esp ghost.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 23:19:58
December 23 2012 23:19 GMT
#2760
Targets of night actions are not notified unless the night action is them getting shot and dying or them getting masoned.
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