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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 22 2012 19:27 GMT
#2421
A list of Eywa's analysis and scumhunting today:



On December 23 2012 03:37 Eywa- wrote:
##unvote
##vote Djodref

On December 23 2012 03:50 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 03:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:37 Eywa- wrote:
##unvote
##vote Djodref


If this isn't clue enough to lynch Eywa, I don't know what is.

His posture early game was hyper aggressive and face-smashing into people. Now he's just too timid and sheepy because he knows that I've got him pinned and he's guilty.

Scum want to push this Djo lynch right now.

I can make my posture be whatever I want it to... It's not difficult, you can't see my expression or read if I'm lying.

If I tell you that

I expect this game to end in scum victory

and I tell you

I think Hapahauli is scum

and then I tell you I am only telling the truth in one...

You can't tell which it is, you can't tell if the last statement is true either, there's no emotion put into any of these.




Otherwise, the entirety of D3 he's been floundering around helpless to identify rationale a single one of his reads.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 19:29 GMT
#2422
On December 23 2012 04:25 JieXian wrote:
eywa if you don't plan on ignoring my question please answer me so I can make my decision and have a nap

There's absolutely no reason to vote one over the other. For instance, Djodref didn't even seem to think DYH was scum while every other time he was so passionate about his scum claims. I attack people with minimal proof behind it and poke at every slip in their rage... I know I'm not scum, but from your point of view, assuming you are town, there's no advantage to voting either.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 19:30 GMT
#2423
On December 23 2012 04:27 Hapahauli wrote:
A list of Eywa's analysis and scumhunting today:



Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 03:37 Eywa- wrote:
##unvote
##vote Djodref

Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 03:50 Eywa- wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:37 Eywa- wrote:
##unvote
##vote Djodref


If this isn't clue enough to lynch Eywa, I don't know what is.

His posture early game was hyper aggressive and face-smashing into people. Now he's just too timid and sheepy because he knows that I've got him pinned and he's guilty.

Scum want to push this Djo lynch right now.

I can make my posture be whatever I want it to... It's not difficult, you can't see my expression or read if I'm lying.

If I tell you that

I expect this game to end in scum victory

and I tell you

I think Hapahauli is scum

and then I tell you I am only telling the truth in one...

You can't tell which it is, you can't tell if the last statement is true either, there's no emotion put into any of these.




Otherwise, the entirety of D3 he's been floundering around helpless to identify rationale a single one of his reads.

I haven't offered any scum reads this game... So D3 isn't special.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 19:31 GMT
#2424
Eywa, tell me, what do you think of Kush and his play leading up to the DYH lynch.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 22 2012 19:31 GMT
#2425
Eywa, I need an answer to this please:

Can you please elaborate on this statement?
On December 22 2012 08:26 Eywa- wrote:
1) I thought that scum were targeting MrZ and I was kind of just hoping for a no-lynch.


This doesn't make very much sense. The only person that was targeting MrZ was DoYouHas. DYH was also the other lynch option. If you thought scum was "targeting" MrZ, why would you object to lynching DYH, who was the only person targeting MrZ at the time?
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ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
December 22 2012 19:31 GMT
#2426
On December 23 2012 04:27 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 04:20 ghost_403 wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386816&user=93681&currentpage=All

Ctrl+F "doyouhas" on that page. You'll see that DYH asks questions directly at Eywa-, and Eywa- responds specifically to some of the posts made by DYH. Again, I can't say that this proves that they are of opposite alignments, but it's a good indicator. I'm happy to further discuss Eywa- tomorrow, but as for right now, I feel that Djo is the better lynch.


Ghost,

Djo also talks (and rages at Eywa) to every single person here and answers many peoples questions. But that doesn't absolve him of being scum, right?


My problem with Djo stems from (a) the communication he had from the FLIPPED SCUM aka DYH, and (b) the fact that he constantly admitted that DYH was probably scum while acting like he wasn't.
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ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
December 22 2012 19:32 GMT
#2427
Eywa- is playing terribly, and I don't think it's alignment indicative.

Djo is playing scummy because he's scum.

I'm off, catch you guys on the flip side.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 22 2012 19:33 GMT
#2428
On December 23 2012 04:30 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 04:27 Hapahauli wrote:
A list of Eywa's analysis and scumhunting today:



On December 23 2012 03:37 Eywa- wrote:
##unvote
##vote Djodref

On December 23 2012 03:50 Eywa- wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:37 Eywa- wrote:
##unvote
##vote Djodref


If this isn't clue enough to lynch Eywa, I don't know what is.

His posture early game was hyper aggressive and face-smashing into people. Now he's just too timid and sheepy because he knows that I've got him pinned and he's guilty.

Scum want to push this Djo lynch right now.

I can make my posture be whatever I want it to... It's not difficult, you can't see my expression or read if I'm lying.

If I tell you that

I expect this game to end in scum victory

and I tell you

I think Hapahauli is scum

and then I tell you I am only telling the truth in one...

You can't tell which it is, you can't tell if the last statement is true either, there's no emotion put into any of these.




Otherwise, the entirety of D3 he's been floundering around helpless to identify rationale a single one of his reads.

I haven't offered any scum reads this game... So D3 isn't special.


What was that Mr.CC stuff then? Were you trying to lynch him for shits and giggles?
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 19:34 GMT
#2429
On December 23 2012 04:31 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Eywa, tell me, what do you think of Kush and his play leading up to the DYH lynch.

It matches up with the rest of his play this game, you didn't think he was scum before, I wouldn't change my opinion now if I were you. If you did think he was scum before however, then he's still scum now... I don't see why I'd have to tell you this, though your processing functions seem to be off.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 19:35 GMT
#2430
What's your opinion of him in general?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 22 2012 19:35 GMT
#2431
On December 23 2012 04:32 ghost_403 wrote:
Eywa- is playing terribly, and I don't think it's alignment indicative.

Djo is playing scummy because he's scum.

I'm off, catch you guys on the flip side.


... you have read my Eywa case right?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386816&currentpage=112#2232

Like I sympathize with you on "terrible", but I simply cannot rationalize his behavior from a town perspective.

The guy voted his top town read (MrZ) to nolynch (preventing lynch of DYH) because he thought scum was targeting MrZ (who was being pushed by DYH). Describe how that's townie to me.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 19:35 GMT
#2432
On December 23 2012 04:31 Hapahauli wrote:
Eywa, I need an answer to this please:

Can you please elaborate on this statement?
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 08:26 Eywa- wrote:
1) I thought that scum were targeting MrZ and I was kind of just hoping for a no-lynch.


This doesn't make very much sense. The only person that was targeting MrZ was DoYouHas. DYH was also the other lynch option. If you thought scum was "targeting" MrZ, why would you object to lynching DYH, who was the only person targeting MrZ at the time?

I had no idea that doyouhas was scum, your assumption was that I knew dyh was scum despite the fact that it was clearly indicated otherwise.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 19:36 GMT
#2433
On December 23 2012 04:35 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 04:31 Hapahauli wrote:
Eywa, I need an answer to this please:

Can you please elaborate on this statement?
On December 22 2012 08:26 Eywa- wrote:
1) I thought that scum were targeting MrZ and I was kind of just hoping for a no-lynch.


This doesn't make very much sense. The only person that was targeting MrZ was DoYouHas. DYH was also the other lynch option. If you thought scum was "targeting" MrZ, why would you object to lynching DYH, who was the only person targeting MrZ at the time?

I had no idea that doyouhas was scum, your assumption was that I knew dyh was scum despite the fact that it was clearly indicated otherwise.


Then you would lynch for information. That's what town do. No-lynches are for scum.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
December 22 2012 19:37 GMT
#2434
On December 23 2012 04:32 ghost_403 wrote:
Eywa- is playing terribly, and I don't think it's alignment indicative.

Djo is playing scummy because he's scum.

I'm off, catch you guys on the flip side.

Not really, if you look at it closely, it is very unlikely for a scum to attract this much attention to himself.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 22 2012 19:38 GMT
#2435
On December 23 2012 04:35 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 04:31 Hapahauli wrote:
Eywa, I need an answer to this please:

Can you please elaborate on this statement?
On December 22 2012 08:26 Eywa- wrote:
1) I thought that scum were targeting MrZ and I was kind of just hoping for a no-lynch.


This doesn't make very much sense. The only person that was targeting MrZ was DoYouHas. DYH was also the other lynch option. If you thought scum was "targeting" MrZ, why would you object to lynching DYH, who was the only person targeting MrZ at the time?

I had no idea that doyouhas was scum, your assumption was that I knew dyh was scum despite the fact that it was clearly indicated otherwise.


No no you don't understand the question.

Broken down:
1) You thought scum was "targeting" MrZ
2) But... the only player that was "targeting" MrZ was DoYouHas
3) The only person you could have reasonably thought was scum was indeed DYH
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 22 2012 19:40 GMT
#2436
Why does JieXian disappear literally the second I get in the thread? This is the 3rd day in a row.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 22 2012 19:40 GMT
#2437
On December 23 2012 04:29 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 04:25 JieXian wrote:
eywa if you don't plan on ignoring my question please answer me so I can make my decision and have a nap

There's absolutely no reason to vote one over the other. For instance, Djodref didn't even seem to think DYH was scum while every other time he was so passionate about his scum claims. I attack people with minimal proof behind it and poke at every slip in their rage... I know I'm not scum, but from your point of view, assuming you are town, there's no advantage to voting either.


wtf eywa I'm not trying to save myself I'm trying to find scum. There was only one thing that stuck out for their long cases against you.

Please explain this.

On December 21 2012 06:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Eywa-
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 03:35 Eywa- wrote:
Djodref, Mr.Cheesecake, Hapahauli

Who's assisting these guys?

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 04:50 Eywa- wrote:
On December 20 2012 04:49 kushm4sta wrote:
scum please silver bullet me lol

They used it on Hapahauli.


He needs to answer for this. It's very difficult to rationalize this for a town perspective. Behavior suggests he's town, however, him being absent from the thread this cycle is very concerning. Don't let him off the hook.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 22 2012 19:43 GMT
#2438
On December 23 2012 04:40 Hapahauli wrote:
Why does JieXian disappear literally the second I get in the thread? This is the 3rd day in a row.


you do realise that every day, especially around ~9-11Pm gmt+8 I post in huge waves and leave right after that right?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 22 2012 19:44 GMT
#2439
Yeah, but it's hard to get a read on you when your posting is limited by that timeframe. I'm also generally busy during that time.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 19:46:25
December 22 2012 19:46 GMT
#2440
Vote Count!

Djodref (3) - ghost_403, kushm4sta, Eywa-
JieXian (1) - Djodref
Ewya- (2) - Mr. Cheesecake, Hapahauli

Not Voting (1) - JieXian

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Currently no-one is set to be lynched!




It is now Day 3. The Day ends in ~3 hours at Saturday, Dec 22 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 22:00 GMT (+00:00). Make sure to get your one witchcraft vote into Blazinghand and Keirathi by that time.
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