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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 04 2012 15:24 GMT
#355
I automatically assume everyone is town, then get scumreads.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 04 2012 15:25 GMT
#356
I think its just my meta, I like to be inclusive
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 04 2012 15:30 GMT
#359
No, I wasnt providing advice on how he could look more town,
I was giving a suggestion on more effective/accurate ways to win the game as town.
If he is scum, it doesnt matter.

I am concerned that he is scum. HOWEVER, it doesnt really affect much BECAUSE if you know that someone is scum, you just ignore them.

Currently I have a slight town read on yamato, however he seems to be acting differently as opposed to last game. Probably because he wants to improve like me, but you never know.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 04 2012 15:46 GMT
#367
Umm if your criteria for finding scum is how they scumhunt then ok.....
Hey yamato, do you have any reads?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 04 2012 16:05 GMT
#370
Im leaning town on CC, he seems his normal logical self.
Im null on Axle, his questions are odd but maybe thats just his playstyle.
Im leaning slightly scum on yamato and kickstart
Kickstart goes into a discussion on whether lynching lurkers is good which is unnecessary at the start of the game because who knows, we might not have lurkers. Then he jokes around for a while and suddenly FoS yamato on badgering Axle. Like what kind of reasoning is that?
Yamato
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 04 2012 23:42 yamato77 wrote:

My strategy this game is far more aggressive than it was the previous game at the beginning. If I am town, my main objective day 1, especially early, is to provoke discussion and responses. The more information I can garner from people, the stronger my reads on them can become. Up to that point, only Axle had seemed to willingly ignore me so I went after him. People that don't want to give up information are either scum or blue, because they both have something to hide. I suppose I assumed that Axle was doing this intentionally but it seems like he was ignoring me rather absentmindedly.

What my focus now has become is why you have started to throw suspicion around on players who are looking into people's play early. A lot of your posting this game has been about "this looks suspicious" or something of that nature. Everything can "look suspicious" from a town POV, but you feel the need to say it a lot. Why?


he only questioned axle then Unvoted him for unclear reasons..
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 04 2012 16:29 GMT
#371
Kickstart is scummy.


On December 04 2012 11:04 Kickstart wrote:
Rephrase your question, it makes no sense to me. I am saying that if I have a strong scum read on someone I am pushing that read over a lurker lynch, but if I have no strong read I would be fine with a lurker lynch. I have no idea if I will get a scum read or if I get one how strong it will be, there isn't enough to go on yet.


Last game, we lynched lurkers and it didnt go too well, vets posted and said that its unlikely that a scum is a lurker and STILL
Kickstart posts this. It reads as very wishy, washy allowing him to keep all his options open.
Lynching a lurker is good for scum because it doesnt really show strong opinions either way because its a lurker, coinflippy.


On December 04 2012 12:45 Kickstart wrote:
##FoS yamato

Badgering people then voting them when they ignore his badgering


This vote is so bad, no explaination why this is scum..

On December 04 2012 14:24 Kickstart wrote:
For example I FoSd Yamato because I don't like much his actions up to this point. It was mostly that what he was doing didn't sit well with me therefor I pointed out what I didn't like and asked others about it. Just the fact that to me he seemed really incessant with his policy talks and then just immediately threw a vote on someone when they didn't answer him. My reaction was just a gut reaction but to figure out if I think it is scummy or not I need to look through his dialogue and try and figure out his intentions, but I wanted to see what others thought about it if anything.



Kickstart is looking for town support here, he doesnt want to vote yamato if no one else votes for him...

His whole case on yamato is just him jumping on a small thing that he doesnt even explain how it is scum aligned or even aligned at all.

##Vote: Kickstart
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 04 2012 16:38 GMT
#374
hmm.
I think he is pushing a scum agenda by implying that he wants to lynch a lurker which more often then not, are town so preparing for a mislynch. Then the way he votes yamato allows him to back out easily if he sees that its not gaining any support, again scum motivation because they dont want to be caught in contridictions and 180s
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 04 2012 16:46 GMT
#377
Sorry If I disagree, FoS is the prelude to a vote, like a pressure vote but not actually a vote.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 04 2012 16:53 GMT
#378
well its late, im going to sleep now,
see ya guys in about 9 hours
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 05 2012 00:31 GMT
#438
I changed my read on yamato because at that time, I had the impression that he was null to slightly town, then when I looked through yamato's filter, I found some scummy stuff.
He starts out with the introductory post then has no content otherwise.
That gives me the impression that he is asking questions to look involved and notice, he asked so many questions to axle who looked ill-equipped to answer, so its not very effective in finding scum.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 05 2012 01:01 GMT
#441
I MADE A READS POST AND READ THE FILTERS OF THOSE I FELT NEEDED A LOOK.
I said slight town on him before BECAUSE it looked like he was contributing and whatnot.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 05 2012 01:16 GMT
#448
Axle, please ignore pregame stuff from people who are not actually playing the game.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 05 2012 02:51 GMT
#490
CC, context for the Lol Im town,

Axle asked me what I would do pretending that I am town, after he asked me what I would do if I was scum.

And about my way of playing? If that is scummy to you then ok, each to his own.

CC, how many times have you been like,
Ok he is not that suspicious, then when you read his filter, it has some scummy stuff and not much town stuff.
I did this for Clarity in XXX actually, I had a town read, I thought Djo was scum but when I read his filter, I was astounded at the slight scumtells.

If it is your opinion on why the kickstart case is bad then so be it, I cant change that.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 05 2012 02:59 GMT
#495
On December 05 2012 11:57 Kickstart wrote:
Since you asked kindly I will entertain you.

a) no one was really suspicious of before (or at least no one had posted about)
and
b) are not one of the "easy targets" (there are several first timers here, some of whom are lurking, and I did not go after any of them)
So how you can say I am stalling when I am bringing up new points against players who had no pressure at all on them is strange to me.


You then call me wishy washy about my suspicion of Yamato. Maybe you should look up what wishy washy, because I have been nothing but firm with my stance that I found his interactions with Axl and his general posting up until that point to be suspicious. You then accuse me of trying to start a case on someone without providing anything to back it up (which is strange since right after you post my large post). I have given a more comprehensive post on why I have my suspicions than anyone thus far - so your accusation is just false.


Its early game, who would be suspicous of anyone?
You didnt go after the first timers because there is too little to go off of....

This looks so weird kickstart.

Also, so now what do you think yamato is? Scum or Town?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 05 2012 03:03 GMT
#500
Kickstart,
Please clarify the parts that you think I am misrepresenting and post your reasoning.
Dont just say,
oh Your case is bad because I totally didnt say that.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 05 2012 03:05 GMT
#502
So CC, you start the game by thinking everyone is scum?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 05 2012 03:08 GMT
#510
I really dont know what your problem is kickstart/CC.
We play mafia differently, fine.
I am not saying my way is better, its just my way.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 05 2012 03:14 GMT
#515
Was I suspicous last game of EVERYBODY?
I think you misunderstand me.
I think that everyone is town at the start of the game.
Oh look CC posted an iffy looking post, let me look through his filter.
Ok town/scum read.
Keep posting bla bla.
Oh look yamato posted a totally bullshit case, let me think about why.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 05 2012 04:13 GMT
#523
CC why are you voting me?
Are you like totally pissed off at the way I play mafia?
Or do you think that I made a scumslip and am obvious scum?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 05 2012 04:42 GMT
#534
Fuck this shit is funny axle.
Thanks for making me laugh out loud in class, now everyone is looking at me :/
No gg, No skill.
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