EPTOn December 15 2012 17:09 Bluelightz wrote:
Because you did nothing to defend Tunkeg but rather voted him.
Because you did nothing to defend Tunkeg but rather voted him.
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grush57
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grush57
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On December 15 2012 20:51 Vivax wrote: Is anyone in for lynching djo tomorrow? I'd rather lynch Bluelightz but he is my number 2. | ||
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I don't know if I'll survive this night, so cooperate with me on this. | ||
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marvellosity
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On December 16 2012 04:14 Vivax wrote: dis silence at night yeah. Saturday near Christmas... hectic times. Clarity, who's your #1 for tomorrow? Palmar, when are you about? | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
Here's my take at the game at the moment. First of all, I'd only consider Clarity and thrawn to be almost-confirmed town for now. I see no reason for scum to hard bus day one or two. On day two, scum were behind due to Adam's lynch and really needed a mislynch. Day one it's pretty straightforward. If we assume this, some associations can be made. For example: vivax and jay are not the same scum team vivax and Bluelightz are not in the same scum team. Palmar and Djo are not in the same scum team. etc. Of course, these associations are only useful when scum has flipped (I'm trying out this kind of thinking this game and keeping track on some of them). But they help me in thinning out the possible scum list. Marv, for example (well, pretty much the only example), is a player certainly capable of bussing adam in the way he did as scum, but I don't think this is the way , given how he's playing the game. Palmar, another capable player, is someone I'm very null on in this stage of the game. His play so far seems to be in alignment with how he spoke pre-game (adam is prob scum, djo is prob scum, etc.) This is something he'd have to do as scum, and something he'd likely do as townie, so it could go either way. Unless both these players are scum, I feel it is likely one will die tonight, so I'm not gonna due too much research into them. If one of them is scum, I would lean scum on Palmar. After some rereading some, I feel marv's vote on Adam doesn't look like a bus. Anyways, I'll wait after the night to actually make any decisions regarding them, to me right now they are both town. Originally I had a semi-town read on BL, but this recent post: On December 15 2012 09:12 Bluelightz wrote: Lazy about scum hunting - People ignoring me and saying every post I make scum or is somehow scummy... (I post something other guy says "Thats why you should vote BL") Has some fair amount of qq that seems to be a subtle attempt of justifying his lack of scum reading. I'll have to read more on him. Djo is certainly a capable player to seem as invest as he is. But I don't like some of his play this game, especially the lying Palmar mentioned. I also don't like how he has been buddying me, despite having posts like these on his filter, that spread some light suspicion: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=72#1437 @ Z-Bo I'm gonna be seriously concerned about you if you don't find a mafia player today. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=49#963 The hypothetical scenario is the scenario where Z-Bo is chasing only me for the next days. In this hypothetical scenario, I would need to revise my current town read on him. (there was one more that I remember marv even noted, but I feel lazy to go back and look for it) He also has some strange behavior towards Vivax. Vivax soft defends Djo early in day one. Djo then makes a case on vivax (after I note vivax's suspicious behavior towards Adam): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=50#1000 But then quickly changes his mind due to his interaction with bugs: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=69#1377 On Vivax, I'll go ahead and say that I don't really agree with this town read, in the linked post. Saying how he thought bugs was town is fairly null (or I'm not understanding the townread correctly). Hapa's earlier townread on Adam making a case on vivax is also something I disagree upon. It's actually quite reasonable to me. The importnat thing he's missing is that marv had agreed with the case on Adam at that point. Palmar's video was also up at the time, so it's a fair chance that Adam was getting lynched. He also just made a case on Vivax and scrammed, didn't push Vivax at all, and didn't even vote for vivax, which leads me to believe that Adam did NOT intend for vivax to be lynched. As a matter of fact, note that he not only doesn't push vivax, but he declares him "obvious town" in his own martyr post, as "obvious town": http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=42#825 Obvious town to me: Palmar, Clarity, dabears, Marv, Thrawn and Vivax. So that, in my opinion, turns Hapa's association on Vivax totally invalid, and maybe arguably even the opposite, given to how weird his stance on Palmar was lately. I also have to read more carefully on him. tl;dr
I didn't proof read, but tried to make it easier to understand as I was writing this. Let me know what you guys think. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
I also read up on palmar and yourself and if one of you is scum it's you, since I know you play a good scum game, but I'm not willing to lynch you today. I would like palmar to explain his townread on grush, btw. | ||
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Clarity_nl
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On December 16 2012 04:53 Vivax wrote: Didn't like what VE had to say about the scum vigi, right clarity? Well that was just dumb, but dumb is not alignment indicative and when you're scum it's really weird to contest the towniest person so if anything that exchange makes him town. | ||
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On December 16 2012 04:58 Clarity_nl wrote: Well that was just dumb, but dumb is not alignment indicative and when you're scum it's really weird to contest the towniest person so if anything that exchange makes him town. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/zRQzx.gif) | ||
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Palmar
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Clarity_nl
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On December 10 2012 09:44 Clarity_nl wrote: Who when what? Even if thatis somehow true I can hardly believe it! Anyway, lurkers policy lynch or not? Might as well get this out of the thread ASAP. I'd rather lynch a coinflip lurker than a weak scumread, especially if that person is more helpful to town than said lurker. Fibonacci sequence starting at three. 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 I am a one shot Vigilante. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On this game so far, he has near the same amount of posts as the finished rock band mafia game. Except that save the first post, they are mostly one liners. Here are some very interesting posts from said game, which are in contrast to his play here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=25#484 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=9#179 All this is refuted by him saying "he's lazy". Hmm. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On December 16 2012 05:44 Z-BosoN wrote: Palmar, any thoughts on my reads? you somehow have leaning scum on me so you're clearly an idiot and thus not worth reading. | ||
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