Marv, please just ignore him. Please.
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Djo, what about your case isn't explained by the fact that I'm busy? Apparently everyone in this game thought I was playing very pro-town and townie up until a period of about ~48 hours ago, at which point I had to start studying for finals and Witchraft Mafia began. So what's the logical conclusion here? That... a) I (as hypothetical mafia) arbitrarily decided to stop playing despite doing very well for myself b) I (as town) became busy | ||
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On December 17 2012 21:06 marvellosity wrote: Honestly the more you try the less I want to lynch you. I can't really disagree with anything that you or thrawn have said about hapa. "why would i purposefully, blatantly, be so shit" is not a defence either. I'll cross fingers you're not doing some bus here, and join you on Hapa. ##Vote: Hapahauli Marv, I refuse to believe that you're being this awful. You of all people should know that I'm psychotically active as both allignments. | ||
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1) Munk-E I can't defend Munk-E's behavior, beyond the fact that he played nearly identical in a newbie game and got mislynched for it. 2) Active Lurking I wasn't lurking until I became busy. In fact I was one of the most active players in the thread after I replaced in. I currently have a 48 hour period where I haven't been able to devote as much time to the game. In about 4-5 hours, I'll be back to my active self. 3) My Buddy, except for today Again, busy. Also, it should be really obvious from my filter who I want to lynch and who I think is town. I have stated you're town, and I still believe you are, since you're giving 1000x more of a shit about the game than anyone else in the thread. 4) A few weird arguments What about those arguments are weird? I didn't want to kick a player while he was down. Seems pretty normal to me. Also, way to pick out one quote from my thousands of justifications over why I think you're town. 5) Not on the front line Exact same thing as #2 - I was on the front line until I became busy. I will be active when I get out of my final in 4-5 hours. Until then, hold the panties. | ||
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On December 17 2012 21:58 marvellosity wrote: Yes, and when you're playing differently from either alignment you usually play, and the differences are scum traits, and not town traits, what then? Let me answer your question with some more questions: 1) What do you make of my early-game? Apparently you and everyone else thought it was very townie. That's cause it is. 2) What about my play so far isn't explained by the fact that I have a final in an hour? | ||
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On December 17 2012 22:04 marvellosity wrote: The fact that this game is in a very important stage, and you're making 50 posts in Witchcraft for every one you bother making here? Two games + studying for a final is a little two much for me. I bit off much more than I could chew work-load wise. Once I'm done with my final, I'll get back to participating more in this game. Until then, I can only devote my attention to one game. | ||
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On December 17 2012 22:05 Djodref wrote: You were not busy, you were derping in the Witchcraft Mafia thread. I think that the deal is done over there, you could have spared the time to come playing here. It's hard for me to focus on two games at once. Again, just because I can play one game + study at the same time doesn't mean I can play two. | ||
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On December 15 2012 10:09 VisceraEyes wrote: :/ Like, I wasn't super convinced he was scum myself, but what the fuck. I'm rereading....fucking AGAIN. This is the exact same thing he pulled in Chrono Trigger as mafia. Somewhat coincidentally, I was also afk for some periods in CT Mafia and multiple players called me scum for it in the same fashion as what you two (Marv + Djo) are currently doing. | ||
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On December 17 2012 22:11 Djodref wrote: @ Hapa Why did you not push VE lynch harder yesterday ? You could have the perfect argument. Mafia players like to go after a lynch that is not going to happen. They look concerned, but this is just a perfect disruptive behavior. And this is an argument you should have made and pushed to lynch VE yesterday. Because I was busy. HEYYYYYYY. Also, I push lynches really really hard as both mafia and town. Ask marv. | ||
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On December 17 2012 22:12 marvellosity wrote: I find it baffling you'd choose a game you just started playing over a game you're already in that's in a crucial stage, if you're town. The temptation for scum to drop-off in activity, or choose one game over another, on time constraints is obvious enough. Unfortunately I really can't answer this question without going into detail about Witchcraft (a tad against the rules). So I'll just ask you to use your imagination and think of other reasons for the difference. | ||
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On December 17 2012 22:14 Djodref wrote: Anyway, I think that both VE and you are mafia. I wouldn't mind you to write an overkill case against VE. My problem is not only your inactivity today, but the fact that in the few posts that you have made, you never defended me today. And, given what's happening in the other game thread, don't tell me that you cannot concentrate on 2 games. I can't study + concentrate in two games. I was studying all weekend. Now I'm just sitting in a classroom waiting for the proctor to get here and sipping coffee. It's not a glamorous defense, but it's the truth, and that's why I haven't been defending you. Also, there's no overkill case on VE. He's inactive and he hasn't given me sufficient reasons to think he's town. Well anyway, since we both think VE is scum, can you just vote VE and let my play in the next few days do the talking (if I'm alive of course, which it looks like I will be)? | ||
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On December 17 2012 22:20 Djodref wrote: Bleh, sorry for this... But you have made some posts here today. What was preventing you from stating that I was a mislynch ? Busy-ness. I know it might seem like "oh hapa could have just popped in and given a word" but think about this for a sec: It's finals week. Law school finals week. The less things I have on my mind, the better. I really forcibly tried to cut my involvement with this game in order to study. I'm not naive to the fact that such inactivity on its face is scummy. I totally understand what you're thinking. However, you also have to realize that 1) inactivity is uncharacteristic for me as either allignment and 2) my play has been very pro-town up until I started finals. In face of this, the logical explanation should be that I'm town and ran into RL issues that prevented me from being involved in the game. If I keep up with my inactivity, you have every right to lynch me for playing terribly. However, I'll be done with a final in 4 hours and have much more time to post and be involved here. Sorry to make you wait, but RL > Mafia any day. | ||
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On December 17 2012 22:26 Djodref wrote: @ Hapa What was preventing you from stating that I was a mislynch today ? You should have said it if you were really caring of this game. How come you had a town read on me all this time ? How come that you didn't reassess your read on me with Palmar's case on me ? Or marv being suspicious of me ? I explained the first bit already in my previous post. As far as the town read, I think you've been a blitheringly obvious town. I've stated many times why I've thought so in my filter. I straight-up disagree with Palmar. I understand how your actions could be interpreted as anti-town (vote-waffling late in D1) but I disagree. | ||
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And as for Munk-E, read his newbie game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381931&user=87525 ...in which he got mislynched D1 as town. Then get back to me about his play. | ||
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On December 17 2012 22:28 marvellosity wrote: Screw this. We'll see what Hapa comes up with later and if I have to phone post to change votes or whatever then that's what I'll have to do ##Unvote ##Vote: VisceraEyes <3 Thanks for the BOTD marv | ||
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On December 17 2012 22:38 Djodref wrote: Blew, Marv just went back to lynch VE. Yeah, but I also lied by omission to Palmar. I have also pushed a lynch on Tunkeg quite hard, and he turned out to be town. I mean, there was way enough stuff to make you doubt. Like, I was supposedly your main scum read at your first read of the thread. How could you give up on this view for all the game ? You know my alignment, that is all. It fits too well in a scum agenda, just defending the townie which has a town read on you. I've done it before, you are doing it now. You were my first scumread based on a horrid misreading of one of your posts before I caught up. Also, what about my reasoning on my town-read of you is bad? I've spent plenty of time justifying it, and I've gone very violently against good players in defense of it. I don't back down from reads I believe it. As far as "fitting in a scum agenda," I don't really get it. If VE is scum (seemingly), and you're town (as you say, and as I believe), what about my actions are pursuing a scum agenda? Also, you act as if a townie can't have a controversial town read on someone, which is really really stupid. | ||
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On December 17 2012 22:46 Djodref wrote: I'm sorry to say this to you, but you replaced the guy that made this post. I cannot let this go. People made this mistake in the Mario Mini. Not lynching me for what thrawn has done. I understand your frustration. Objectively, wouldn't you lynch Munk-E for this post if he wasn't yourself ? But, yeah, you look more town that VE, but you didn't come defend me today. That is a fact... ##Unvote ##Vote VE It looks like we can consolidate better on VE for today. He better be mafia. But yeah, I'm going to go after you hard tomorrow. Objectively I understand why you'd find a post like that suspicious. However it's Munk-E. I would need much more than that post to lynch a player like Munk-E, since he's capable of doing those things as town, just like he did this game. | ||
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On December 18 2012 00:16 marvellosity wrote: I'm less confident in today's lynch right now than I was on the previous 2 days though :/ (and yes I know I was wrong yesterday) Hard to be confident when there's no OMGUS involved xD | ||
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