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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 17:12 GMT
#2421
I agree that CJ would be a coinflip at this point. I dont really have any feelings to him either way except that he is 3rd party as indicated above.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 17:17 GMT
#2424
Im pretty sure that Kita said that it wont kill him, but it was a significant chunk of hp.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 18:10 GMT
#2457
Lets bring the spotlight on some selected players.
1. Phagga.
His reasoning is really weak for voting for Kita as opposed to voting for either Syllo/Sand. Furthermore he is not comfortable of 1 of the players in the party, Prome. Why would town phagga vote for kita when he is not comfortable with prome?
If 1 scum is in the party, the party would fail, the thread thinks.
On November 22 2012 18:55 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 10:27 Z-BosoN wrote:
@Phagga
+ Show Spoiler +
on november something phagga wrote:
You are therefore assuming that one of the vets is town, is able to read sandroba as scum(my) and is able to convince town about it, necessarly against other vets who might be scum as well?

A couple of people have mentioned being familiar with his meta and being able to discern him scum from town. I am assuming that he is easier than syllogism to pin fdown, and according to my logic that I presented earlier (which no one seemed to want to discuss), I think this weighs heavier.
Personally, however, I'm not familiar with either of their meta, so I'm trying to take in consideration the town as a whole. I can always read his filter and previous games if the situation is Dire.



I'm not liking how you aren't taking a stance, though.

Here you outline this strategy:
On November 21 2012 16:18 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 16:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Nice post phagga.
Do you have a strategy on picking the party leaders/party members?


I will pick a party leader who (priority in this order):

1.) I have a town read on
2.) Is good at reading people D1
3.) has a sound plan how to choose his team
4.) Suggests/chooses team members that I agree with

1 and 2 are a must, 3 and 4 are nice to have.


Saying that it's important you choose someone you have a townread on. Then, you seem a little hesistant to discuss town reads with other people, as (on a previous post you said) it makes it easier for scum to blend in. This post is an example of this:

On November 21 2012 17:02 phagga wrote:
EBWOP: I am aware that we have to discuss the people who want to get elected and that this will eventually lead to townreads in the thread. This is unavoidable. Nevertheless, I find it dangerous if people go around and ask for townreads from people who are not candidating and/or will probably not get elected. Also, asking for townreads when the game is not even 12 hours old is unnecessary.


So what I expect from you: go around interacting with town. This is pretty much what you do, fantastic. But now, game is much past 12 hours and you have yet to tell us your opinion on who you think is town and who you will be voting. Out of nowhere, you mention kita:

On November 22 2012 07:13 phagga wrote:
Acrofales, if you are around, i would still like to know why you do not consider Kita a serious candidate.


I'm very curious as to why you chose to comment on kita, out of all people. This seems utterly random, given your other posts. Also, you don't state opinions and you spend most of your time prodding around asking questions, but never saying anything conclusive.

Explain yourself, because I can't discern in which direction you are going in order to consolidate your vote.


I have not read all the posts yet, I just arrived at the point where Syllo addresses Sandro regarding unanswered questions here.

I have not named a candidate yet because I do not have a clear town read on one yet. I was leaning on Sandroba the whole time, and I also tend to think that Syllo is town. However, I only have a very rough idea on how these guys play scum, and I don't trust them enough yet. Also I don't like it at all that they are almost uncontested. As someone said earlier, mafia should have an interest at getting this spot too, and somehow I would expect some heavier resistance. Unless Sand and Syllo are both scum, of course, but Orcams Razor probably says no.

Kita was always in the back of my head because I liked his opening post. I was aware that he went MIA for a while, but I still thought that his candidature was serious. So when I realized that barely anyone talked about him, I thought I'd use Acros post to see if I could get some info on what people thought about him. Also, as I wrote earlier, I do think more competition is needed, and since Toad is out of the race, that leaves Kita as the most promising competitor to Sandro/Syllo. Regarding his proposed team: Dieno has claimed after I talked about the possibility to be 3rd party, and the way is behaving I think I could meanwhile accept him in the party, although there are other players that I would prefer. Prom is the one I feel really unsure about. I hope Kita thinks that one over. Nevertheless, for the time being, he gets my vote. ##Vote Kitaman

Goodkarmas candidature comes surprising, and I first liked his approach for the candidature. However, I voiced my suspicion of him yesterday, and his choice of Sandro for the team looks like a joke, as you can see in my questions to him.

I will be very busy today. I should be in the thread for sure in the last 2-3 hours before deadline. Hopefully I will be able to interact some more earlier.


However, other than this, his activity looks pretty town aligned to me. He shows interest in finding scum and his posts have good reasoning and logic.



2. VE.
This player is interesting because he replaced BioSC, a player who was VERY EXCITED before the game began but posted practically nothing and asked to be replaced out. VE was also really excited for the game, before he knew he was replacing in.
VE then posts a long ass posts with 2 scum reads which frankly are not very well explained. He then disappears.
I find this interesting because 2 excited players, suddenly become extremely quiet when they are in the game. Could it be related to their role? or their alignment. For now I think that we should keep an eye on VE, if he continues to be silent, I would find it very suspicious
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 18:15 GMT
#2464
Yes didnt get sniped by VE :D.
Have fun :D

I totally agree with marv on kita at this point.
Should we let Sandro slide on the basis of if he is town, he is brillant.
or should we vote Sandro because he has done nothing that benefits town so far.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 18:17 GMT
#2468
@Strong&Big
I am speculating about the role being related to their activity, this is a GreyMist game, any role could be possible.
I just find it odd that 2 very excited players shut down immediately on their posting and caring about the game in general.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#2471
Whatever the outcome of the vote, I think that barring an explosion of mafia awesomeness by either player, all the town KP should be allocated on the other dude who didnt get lynched.

For now though, I think that sandro is scummier.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 18:20 GMT
#2472
Sleeping now, should be back 1/2 hour before lynch :D
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 22:47 GMT
#2662
Actually Toad did say that he couldnt post anymore, thus cannot defend himself.. Is scum behind his wagon?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 22:54 GMT
#2672
Acro, do you think that there are mafia on the Toad wagon?
Your case is ok, but I would like to see some defense from Toad and since that is not happening, I dont feel comfortable with a Toad lynch today
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 22:59 GMT
#2679
Avoiding lynching someone just to take advantage of game rules is a bad way to play IMO.
I am still not convinced that Toad is scum. Is he the only other wagon, thats why you guys are voting for him?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 23:01 GMT
#2680
lol only 21 people voted? thats 3 modkills :O
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 25 2012 01:01 GMT
#2721
##Vote: Syllogism

Kita, what I understand is that if I vote for you for party leader this cycle, someone will take damage.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 25 2012 01:06 GMT
#2724
Cryptic.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 25 2012 01:12 GMT
#2730
I think that it is related to a skill someone got hit with? Anyone with additional knowledge?
or yeah, 10 cycles until Lavos appears, that makes sense.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 25 2012 01:13 GMT
#2732
Ok wow.
I move that we select me or Dieno.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 25 2012 01:18 GMT
#2738

Unknown doesnt mean bad

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 25 2012 01:26 GMT
#2745
I would take
Acro,
Marv,
Clarity.

I dont think that scum Acro would soft defend Sandro because there is no upside for scum
Marv is looking more and more townie at the moment.
Clarity also started actually doing 'work' after I made my 'case' on him.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 25 2012 01:34 GMT
#2755
Chronicler.
Hmm is there a scum reason for doing this?
YES THERE IS. Toad was under pressure last cycle, chronicler was also under pressure. So fake a 'dt' check and BAM TOAD IS SCUM
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 25 2012 01:35 GMT
#2757
right.
Why did you check those 2 players?
Toad had nothing on him during cycle 1.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 25 2012 01:38 GMT
#2765
Kita wants a puppet leader.
I do not agree with Kita. Scum could convince Dieno to vote them and there is no onus on the party leader to find out who is town.
No gg, No skill.
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