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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 04:01 GMT
#2225
EBWOP: Examples where clarity suffered from confirmation bias in analysing Sandro.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 04:22 GMT
#2230
I actually agree with Prome about marv, in the first cycle, he was kinda apathetic about the party leaders and stratagy.
I thought he was 3rd party at the time, now a slight town read on him
In Prome's party post, it was purely based on meta reading of the players that he is the most comfortable with as opposed any actually reads in the thread.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 06:46 GMT
#2281
Djo, as much as I like my name to be called repeatedly town, it's really too much.
Yes chroniclers idea is bad, get off his back. If the party had failed the event, there might not even be a lynch cycle so saying that a failed party might be better for scum hunting is irrelevent. Djo, now that BioSC has been replaced, who is your top scum read?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 07:36 GMT
#2287
I really dont see how is the plan made 'on purpose'
Do you have specific stuff that showed that he didnt care about the plan but was doing it for appearences sake?
Do you have any other reads? Scum or otherwise?
What do you think about Sandro's defence post?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 10:55 GMT
#2309
The last thing that I am going to say about TC is that his vote on syllo makes perfect sense with his earlier reasoning that town shouldnt give reads that will help scum.

@Sandro,
Syllo still took damage last night.. so why are you lying?

@Syllo,
Hopefully the canine will be fine. :D
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 11:11 GMT
#2311
Ack, right.
Now the question is, Do we believe Sandro?
Sandro, do you want to full roleclaim?
hmm a conundrum...
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 11:16 GMT
#2312
The thing I have about this claim by Sandro.
It is an easy claim as scum to make because,
1. He got roleblocked so obviously it didnt go through.
2. Since he is familiar with the lore, its not difficult to make up a skill.
3. Syllo is the best target to put protective skills so it seems believable.
4. This claim is really late, why didnt he say it in his opening post where he lists the damage taken and the roleblock and waiting until now, where there isnt a lot of activity?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 11:28 GMT
#2315
So clarity what do you think about sandro's claim that he wanted to 'safeguard' syllo
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 11:29 GMT
#2316
EBWOP: Anyone who doesnt think Sandro is scum please post some reasons why the skill claim is town oriented
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 11:46 GMT
#2323
Anyone else think that this is a setup by Sandro and Prome to 'verify' both their alignments?
Lets go through the sequence of events,
1. Sandro posts that he is roleblocked.
2. Prome imply's that he did the roleblock and it had a special ability showing who the target attacked that cycle.
3. Sandro then claims the ability, Shadow and says he targeted Syllo, which basically again, imply's that Sandro is town.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 11:58 GMT
#2329
imply. I know your english is bad but..

LOL its an easy bandwagon to jump onto at this point, also easy to jump off it.
Yes I think that we should wait until some flips but meh, just thinking.

Djo why dont you change your vote of VE?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 12:15 GMT
#2332
right, Whoops.

How would kita revealing his guess do anything? Like whether he is lying about the guessing game if we lynch the guy other than what he guessed? I really think that adds some unneeded bias into who to lynch
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 12:31 GMT
#2335
I really REALLY dont think it is a good idea to post who kita chose IF kita is town.
Kita has like 0 town cred now.
And I dont think that he is well-known for his reads so why would people basically sheep him?

Sandro, I am eagerly waiting for expanded scum reads on Kita, Clarity and Prome
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 13:14 GMT
#2350
There is only a certain amount of time until IRL issues just dont cut it.
The difference is that Sandro could very well be lynched while marv basically cant be lynched this cycle.
Marv can do his pushing and prodding a lot more subtly while Sandro has to get himself out of a lynch
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 14:35 GMT
#2370
Acro, did you even read my day 1 filter? Im pretty sure that I posted something about sandro before the 'flip'.

Yeah I thought that day 1 marv seemed really detached and not involved, day 2 marv is looking a whole lot better. I would say town yet, but I dont have a scum read on him.

REASONS FOR VOTING SANDRO.
His party campaign had no feeling, he didnt feel involved in actually pushing his own campaign, I.E. he did it for the pure reason of LOOKING town.
1 thing that I felt was really weird, earlier, Sandro justified that he was town because he picked 2 of the final 3 party members. I really do not think that being able to 'predict' the party is alignment indicative and it irks me that an experienced vet would think differently.
His first post after the 'flip' felt whiny and defensive. He gives like 3 scumreads without explaining further and still hasnt explained any of them. He did not post any strong town reads the whole game and he gives a weak explanation that he goes by gut feeling that is hard to explain. I find this hard to believe because he is 'famed' for his scum reads and from what I have seen on TL Mafia, nobody votes for someone else's gut feeling without proper explaination
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 14:48 GMT
#2373
EBWOP:
I would say town yet, but I dont have a scum read on him.

I wouldnt say town yet
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 15:02 GMT
#2375
Acro, lets ignore that it is Sandro we are talking about.
Would a mafia player that is under heavy suspicion from sheeping votes but no clear case push reads? or wait for a clear case on another player, which is kita or Cave Johnson at this this point and push that case hard?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 17:03 GMT
#2410
Yeah I would actually say vig kita at the moment and save CJ for later. I think that its unlikely that CJ is scum, probably 3rd party with a win-con not needing town win/lose.
Sandro needs to post a great case on another player to get out of the lynch.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 17:08 GMT
#2415
Kita stop bullshitting, you finished looking through filters a long time ago, and you already know who you are gonna lynch.
Tell us or dont tell us.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 24 2012 17:11 GMT
#2420
The Chronicler.
Im getting a newbie town vibe from him, although he claims that he already played a year.. hmm.
Im gonna look through this conundrum tommorrow.
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