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On November 23 2012 00:51 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 00:44 Adam4167 wrote:
I like how syllogism is thinking.
##vote syllogism Can you please elaborate a bit more what it is exactly that you like?
Why yes, I can.
I agree that it looks like sandroba is phoning it in.
He seems to be genuinely interested in figuring this game out.
I like that he is not entirely confident in his reads at this point, because I'd be less inclined to vote someone claiming to have it 'all figured out' considering what's been put into the thread in the last 24 hours.
I like that he's trying to figure out the mafia's strategy, even if I do consider that futile. I consider it more likely from a townie, rather than mafia faking it.
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On November 23 2012 01:06 Dienosore wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 00:51 Acrofales wrote:
Why do you have the Scum? by my name, yet I don't appear in your scumreads based on this? If you'll look closely, it says Scum? not Scum. I'm not going to flat out accuse anyone who I'm not entirely sure of. But know my eye is on you, Acro. Oh and I know you have some secret relation with CaveJohnson.
Dude, that's way cool, you found out! CaveJohnson is secretly my daddy. He's not very nice, though, he only gives me lemons to play with. I wish my mommy was here.
In all seriousness. Based on what do I have this secret connection. I seem to be missing CaveJohnson's name in all the squiggly lines flying all over the place.
And yes, I am trying to take this seriously, but having a really hard time of it. You sure you're not BillMurray smurfing?
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On November 23 2012 01:13 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 01:06 phagga wrote:On November 23 2012 01:02 marvellosity wrote:On November 23 2012 01:00 phagga wrote:On November 23 2012 00:55 marvellosity wrote:
I might as well say now, I do plan on running for party leader in the coming days if I'm around to do so. I thought you were lazy, why the change of heart? because now i feel i want to, whereas before i didn't. no particular reason other than i'm feeling it more. And why are the following quoted points no longer an issue for you? Marv once wrote:
Plus I don't feel very at home in themed setups like this. There are going to be some differences in how scum/town players act compared to normal setups, and I don't know what they are yet.
There are a few players in this game who I hold in extremely high regard (I think are better than me) and in that situation I feel somewhat insecure. If those players weren't in the game I'm pretty sure I would be standing for party leader because I'd think I knew best out of everyone playing, but I don't think that in this game. Do you think now that you know best of everyone playing? If so, why don't you run for leadership today? I'm not suddenly going to think I'm better than everyone else when I didn't before, no  But I feel quite integrated into this game by now and this helps a lot with how I feel vis-a-vis running for party leader. sandroba has question marks over his head by syllo. kitaman has done nothing to make me think he's town, plus i disagree with a few of his reads. Doesn't make him scum necessarily, but I don't trust him. syllo would as it stands get my vote next cycle too, but it might be best if power isn't that concentrated.
Translation: my scumteam and I are happy to let things slide this cycle, but next cycle we need to get shit done.
Am I doing this right, Marv?
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you're certainly doing it tedious, darling.
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On November 23 2012 01:17 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 01:06 Dienosore wrote:On November 23 2012 00:51 Acrofales wrote:
Why do you have the Scum? by my name, yet I don't appear in your scumreads based on this? If you'll look closely, it says Scum? not Scum. I'm not going to flat out accuse anyone who I'm not entirely sure of. But know my eye is on you, Acro. Oh and I know you have some secret relation with CaveJohnson. Dude, that's way cool, you found out! CaveJohnson is secretly my daddy. He's not very nice, though, he only gives me lemons to play with. I wish my mommy was here. In all seriousness. Based on what do I have this secret connection. I seem to be missing CaveJohnson's name in all the squiggly lines flying all over the place. And yes, I am trying to take this seriously, but having a really hard time of it. You sure you're not BillMurray smurfing?
I'm treating that picture like his campaign poster. Honestly, the only thing in dieno's filter that I cared about was:
On November 22 2012 08:00 Dienosore wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 07:47 Acrofales wrote:
As I was on the way to the supermarket, I thought of something that might be worth considering. I know this is a greymist game and aperture mafia was hardly about aperture at all, but I, at least, am not the goddamned batman or any kind of planar dragon, so from my point of view the theme is more serious this time around.
If you agree that the theme could be serious, consider that the first mission in Chrono Trigger is also in a church. The playable characters are Crono, Lucca and Frog. Of these, I feel Frog is the most important, lorewise, in this mission. I don't think an outright claim is in order, but it might be worth considering, if you're one of these chars, in particular Frog, and running for the campaign, to make a more serious go at becoming the party leader.
Frog, of all the characters, seems like he would wield the most influence in favour of town in the first mission of Chrono Trigger, assuming lore is an important aspect of this game. ![[image loading]](http://i50.tinypic.com/zk3muc.png)
Him claiming toad but not really claiming toad. Turns out he claimed toad
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On November 23 2012 01:02 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 15:31 Adam4167 wrote:Kitaman, I liked what you were saying early yesterday but this post, I do not like: On November 21 2012 21:42 kitaman27 wrote:
There are quite a few people who claim to be voting for sandroba on the basis that they claim to be able to easily differentiate his scum play from his town play. The only reason I see this as the case is that he commonly gets lazy and stops caring or posting as mafia. However, that's simply due to personal choice. How many people here other than maybe syllo are confidant they can identify a scum sandro when he remains active? Having played with him in pypi (an election game), I know he is quite capable of fooling most people when there is something he wants.
I'm quite puzzled by the fact that marv hasn't run for election. As being one of the most active players recently, I think he would be fairly confident at being able to gain support for himself. As town, I know I want to be the leader because that is the only way to directly increase our chances of success. marv however appears to want to avoid the spotlight and participate in an advising role or at least gauge the support he has. Could you explain this decision?
Work time. I'll try to start identifying some town players when I get back if I'm confident enough. Why are you trying to ward people away from voting for sandroba? You are fear mongering that he 'might' be turning over a new-leaf as scum and as such, shouldn't vote for him on that basis. So far, all that you've done to indicate that you think sandroba is scum is to colour his name in red (along with syllo and marv) with no other explanation. Care to go into detail about why you think he is scum? Well it wouldn't be a new leaf. I'm saying its something I've seen before playing mafia with him. The reason that I'm bringing it up is that I don't buy into so many people voting for him because he is simply easy to read. I'm not willing to call him scum yet, but I'm willing to say he isn't in my top 10 of people to choose from.
You say that you are not willing to call them scum yet, then what is the deal with this post:
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I am perplexed by this post. You go on to say further that it was 'hardly a joke campaign', so... what was the point of it?
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Are you mad that you aren't even on my map, Hopeless?
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On November 23 2012 01:13 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 01:06 phagga wrote:On November 23 2012 01:02 marvellosity wrote:On November 23 2012 01:00 phagga wrote:On November 23 2012 00:55 marvellosity wrote:
I might as well say now, I do plan on running for party leader in the coming days if I'm around to do so. I thought you were lazy, why the change of heart? because now i feel i want to, whereas before i didn't. no particular reason other than i'm feeling it more. And why are the following quoted points no longer an issue for you? Marv once wrote:
Plus I don't feel very at home in themed setups like this. There are going to be some differences in how scum/town players act compared to normal setups, and I don't know what they are yet.
There are a few players in this game who I hold in extremely high regard (I think are better than me) and in that situation I feel somewhat insecure. If those players weren't in the game I'm pretty sure I would be standing for party leader because I'd think I knew best out of everyone playing, but I don't think that in this game. Do you think now that you know best of everyone playing? If so, why don't you run for leadership today? I'm not suddenly going to think I'm better than everyone else when I didn't before, no But I feel quite integrated into this game by now and this helps a lot with how I feel vis-a-vis running for party leader. sandroba has question marks over his head by syllo. kitaman has done nothing to make me think he's town, plus i disagree with a few of his reads. Doesn't make him scum necessarily, but I don't trust him. syllo would as it stands get my vote next cycle too, but it might be best if power isn't that concentrated.
This does not make any sense. If (for example) Syllo and his party are successfull and live through the night, why should we not vote him next cycle? I agree that generally it is good when power is distributed over town, but I don't see what the issue is with revoting a successfull leader.
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Marv I really want to know what's inside your head right now. Interested in sharing some thoughts?
I've seen you post quite a bunch, I've seen you mainly ask a bunch of questions that mostly had their purpose and that's fine but what's lacking is some sort of conclusion.
I think you said you don't want to vote for Kita. That's as much as it goes. You've got all those fancy questions and reactions from people that are supposed to be very interesting. And yet you're not putting some thoughts together explaining what you think is going on at all.
Would you mind doing a little of putting your thoughts together for me?
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I just wanna be party leader, ok? It's not something that I had to explain to myself in my head so explaining it in text is meh.
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On November 23 2012 01:29 Toadesstern wrote:
Marv I really want to know what's inside your head right now. Interested in sharing some thoughts?
I've seen you post quite a bunch, I've seen you mainly ask a bunch of questions that mostly had their purpose and that's fine but what's lacking is some sort of conclusion.
I think you said you don't want to vote for Kita. That's as much as it goes. You've got all those fancy questions and reactions from people that are supposed to be very interesting. And yet you're not putting some thoughts together explaining what you think is going on at all.
Would you mind doing a little of putting your thoughts together for me?
I just said why I don't want kita elected. If you have any specific questions, shoot. Otherwise I don't feel the need to explain what I think about everything under the sun.
One example for you. I asked syllogism about to Prome to see if what he thought aligned with what I thought at all. I had thought Prome's votes and explanations were somewhat off, and syllo agrees (despite me not saying beforehand what I thought). On the other hand, Prome was one of the players kita was thinking of taking in his team. Hence that strengthens my resolve for liking syllo and not kita.
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On November 23 2012 01:17 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 01:06 Dienosore wrote:On November 23 2012 00:51 Acrofales wrote:
Why do you have the Scum? by my name, yet I don't appear in your scumreads based on this? If you'll look closely, it says Scum? not Scum. I'm not going to flat out accuse anyone who I'm not entirely sure of. But know my eye is on you, Acro. Oh and I know you have some secret relation with CaveJohnson. Dude, that's way cool, you found out! CaveJohnson is secretly my daddy. He's not very nice, though, he only gives me lemons to play with. I wish my mommy was here. In all seriousness. Based on what do I have this secret connection. I seem to be missing CaveJohnson's name in all the squiggly lines flying all over the place. And yes, I am trying to take this seriously, but having a really hard time of it. You sure you're not BillMurray smurfing?
Your deflection of my accusation only reaffirms it in my mind. Being linked to CaveJohnson isn't a good thing, as he is looking pretty scummy from more than a couple angles, so maybe it's time for you to lay low if you want to take the heat off yourself (and there is much heat right now).
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On November 23 2012 01:25 Dienosore wrote:
Are you mad that you aren't even on my map, Hopeless?
No, its just a really silly thing to do and I'm choosing to ignore it.
On November 23 2012 01:29 marvellosity wrote:
I just wanna be party leader, ok? It's not something that I had to explain to myself in my head so explaining it in text is meh.
Assuming you cannot take any of the other candidates (kita, sand, syllo) with you, what's your party?
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On November 23 2012 01:35 Dienosore wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 01:17 Acrofales wrote:On November 23 2012 01:06 Dienosore wrote:On November 23 2012 00:51 Acrofales wrote:
Why do you have the Scum? by my name, yet I don't appear in your scumreads based on this? If you'll look closely, it says Scum? not Scum. I'm not going to flat out accuse anyone who I'm not entirely sure of. But know my eye is on you, Acro. Oh and I know you have some secret relation with CaveJohnson. Dude, that's way cool, you found out! CaveJohnson is secretly my daddy. He's not very nice, though, he only gives me lemons to play with. I wish my mommy was here. In all seriousness. Based on what do I have this secret connection. I seem to be missing CaveJohnson's name in all the squiggly lines flying all over the place. And yes, I am trying to take this seriously, but having a really hard time of it. You sure you're not BillMurray smurfing? Your deflection of my accusation only reaffirms it in my mind. Being linked to CaveJohnson isn't a good thing, as he is looking pretty scummy from more than a couple angles, so maybe it's time for you to lay low if you want to take the heat off yourself (and there is much heat right now).
Your accusation had nothing to respond to. You made a statement "you are linked" without explaining why. That is not an accusation, that is an unquantifiable statement, if you do not explain it further.
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On November 23 2012 01:29 marvellosity wrote:
I just wanna be party leader, ok? It's not something that I had to explain to myself in my head so explaining it in text is meh.
Your hunger for power is not a sufficient reason for me to vote you. Au contraire, it makes me wary of your motives.
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On November 23 2012 01:37 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 01:29 marvellosity wrote:
I just wanna be party leader, ok? It's not something that I had to explain to myself in my head so explaining it in text is meh. Your hunger for power is not a sufficient reason for me to vote you. Au contraire, it makes me wary of your motives.
Good job I'm not running right now then, eh? :D
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Who wants to take the time to verify that Dienosore's arrows are legit and not just random scribbles to maliciously fool us?! :p
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On November 23 2012 01:36 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 01:29 marvellosity wrote:
I just wanna be party leader, ok? It's not something that I had to explain to myself in my head so explaining it in text is meh. Assuming you cannot take any of the other candidates (kita, sand, syllo) with you, what's your party?
don't really wanna answer this right now.
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On November 23 2012 01:37 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 01:35 Dienosore wrote:On November 23 2012 01:17 Acrofales wrote:On November 23 2012 01:06 Dienosore wrote:On November 23 2012 00:51 Acrofales wrote:
Why do you have the Scum? by my name, yet I don't appear in your scumreads based on this? If you'll look closely, it says Scum? not Scum. I'm not going to flat out accuse anyone who I'm not entirely sure of. But know my eye is on you, Acro. Oh and I know you have some secret relation with CaveJohnson. Dude, that's way cool, you found out! CaveJohnson is secretly my daddy. He's not very nice, though, he only gives me lemons to play with. I wish my mommy was here. In all seriousness. Based on what do I have this secret connection. I seem to be missing CaveJohnson's name in all the squiggly lines flying all over the place. And yes, I am trying to take this seriously, but having a really hard time of it. You sure you're not BillMurray smurfing? Your deflection of my accusation only reaffirms it in my mind. Being linked to CaveJohnson isn't a good thing, as he is looking pretty scummy from more than a couple angles, so maybe it's time for you to lay low if you want to take the heat off yourself (and there is much heat right now). Your accusation had nothing to respond to. You made a statement "you are linked" without explaining why. That is not an accusation, that is an unquantifiable statement, if you do not explain it further.
Fine, I will dig up the evidence. Give me a sec to wade through the filter.
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