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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 21 2012 21:07 GMT
#921
i want to be on the team obviosuly
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18112 Posts
November 21 2012 21:08 GMT
#922
On November 22 2012 06:01 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 05:59 Acrofales wrote:
On November 22 2012 05:49 iamperfection wrote:
On November 22 2012 05:47 Acrofales wrote:
On November 22 2012 05:34 iamperfection wrote:
On November 22 2012 04:11 strongandbig wrote:
On November 21 2012 12:55 iamperfection wrote:
So you guys are looking for someone that has a very distinguishable town meta as opposed to his scum meta.

Hrm let me think about this for a second??????? hrm who could it possibly me...........

Wait a tick

fucking me thats who

I nominate the perfect one as the leader because he is the best choice. Not only am i town this game i also have a very distinguishable town meta from my scum meta.


Also the perfect one is known for his generosity and his fairness

i am very active and will be able to keep up with the thread very easily so i will easily take the towns input for selecting my team

So vote iamperfection 2012



ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

yeah

I can assert this too, doesn't make it true

or useful

um it is actually true ask anybody.

Don't ask me. I think you're scum. You have been completely useless all game and if other people's assessments of your meta are any good, then your town meta is to be constructive rather than yell at the top of your lungs that you're town.

My only experience with you was in Caller's failed game, where you were a veteran vampire cult, so I won't go on my own experience playing with you.

oh really would you point to something specific then.


You are wanting me to quote the absense of useful posts by you? How am I supposed to do that? If you want examples of you yelling at the top of your lungs that you're town, here's a brief compilation:
+ Show Spoiler [IAMTOWN!!!1111] +

On November 21 2012 12:55 iamperfection wrote:
So you guys are looking for someone that has a very distinguishable town meta as opposed to his scum meta.

Hrm let me think about this for a second??????? hrm who could it possibly me...........

Wait a tick

fucking me thats who

I nominate the perfect one as the leader because he is the best choice. Not only am i town this game i also have a very distinguishable town meta from my scum meta.

Also the perfect one is known for his generosity and his fairness

i am very active and will be able to keep up with the thread very easily so i will easily take the towns input for selecting my team

So vote iamperfection 2012

Not only am I town, but everybody can see that I'm town from my meta!!! Not seeing it yet...

On November 21 2012 13:01 iamperfection wrote:
also you people that have played with me before do not ignore me you know what i say is true.

Call me town, pretty please?

On November 21 2012 13:15 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 13:13 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 21 2012 13:05 iamperfection wrote:
also why do we have to have the leader select all 3 wouldn't it be best for the town to put some input on the other team members?


That was my original train of thought. But should the decision become the leader's, that puts a TON of pressure on him (if he is very transparent in his thoughts), and helps consolidate our read on said leader.

so we need someone who can hadle pressure well??? Once again me

GSL II me as scum terrible game but got very dicey towards the end kush my partner started to wet his pants but i stayed calm and cool led to my victory.

Another reason to vote me

Dude, I'm town AND awesome!

On November 21 2012 13:49 iamperfection wrote:
as much as i would love stay up with you fine chaps it is past my bed time

For those who have played with me before comment on me.

you know i have an easy town meta to read so say what you already know to be true iamperfection should be on the team

I am town and I can write it in BIG BLACK BOLD LETTERS!!!111
On November 21 2012 23:34 iamperfection wrote:
@ marv

i should be on the team right.

Please Marv, please call me town?

Given that the rest of your filter is almost all meaningless banter, I fail to see how anybody could get a town read from this if your normal town meta is to be constructive. So don't you "ask anybody in the thread" on me as if you are confirmed town. You're not, shape up and stop looking scummy.

if you really want to figure me out go do some research and come back later. Also this day is half political campaign / scum hunting deal with it. I got some nuggets in there you just ignored them

so tl dr you shape up


Nice OMGUS you got there. Can I have that with fries?
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 21 2012 21:10 GMT
#923
On November 22 2012 03:56 BioSC wrote:
Good morning folks, glad to see the game has started in full swing. I've got a LOT to catch up on, see you in 20-30 mins.


How's it going?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 21 2012 21:11 GMT
#924
just not seeing the effort acro doesn't seem like to me that you really want to figure out my alignment
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
November 21 2012 21:14 GMT
#925
Kay, that took longer than I thought. You guys type too much.

Re-reading through the OP/Daypost, I firmly believe that it's in towns best interest to win each event. Hurp derp, obvious, I know, but the plans to intentionally put someone who's "questionable" on the team a bad idea since if he is scum, it may result in a lost event. I believe, at least for this cycle, we should be putting 4 people together who are most likely town to try an win this and every challenge. Should the event fail, then we can have a look at people on the team who are most likely to be scum and act accordingly.

Now, boiling away all the fat from the discussion, a few people have popped up for the leaders, both of whom I would have no problems electing as party leader, Syllo and Sandroba.

I'm liking Sandroba simply because I agree with his plan insomuch as picking town reads. The way he stated it and stated it early makes me have a town read on him early. I would, however, like him to at least let us know whom he plans on picking party-wise, so if he's elected party leader we can know his thought process behind each individual.

Syllogism for much of the same reason, simple plan of trying to win the events which I can get behind. This post in particular stuck out to me as why I would be ok with supporting him as well.

On November 21 2012 17:33 syllogism wrote:
But getting a team together is not a collective effort; players only have to identify one likely townie who is also likely capable of identifying 3 additional ones. If I was a party leader, I wouldn't pay much attention to who most people think are town. As such I suppose it can be argued the possible party leaders should devote more time on town hunting, but everyone else should mostly just justify their party leader vote and spend the rest of their efforts on finding mafia.

Do you agree that it's easier to get reads if people post and explain their mafia reads than if they only talk about who they find to likely be town?


Finally, I would have supported Marv for party leader, but since he doesn't want it, it would be silly to vote for him. I do believe him to be town, based on his response to Chronic's plan:

On November 21 2012 12:45 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 12:42 TheChronicler wrote:
On November 21 2012 12:41 marvellosity wrote:
i wonder how long we can discuss this infinitely awful idea for.


Respond to my modified version?


if i'm leader and i choose my strongest 3 townreads, why the fuck do I want people who aren't strong reads on my team? I chose those 3 people for a reason.

People will be discussing who should potentially be in any party anyway. No-one is prevented from doing this, so giving them some arbitrary power to choose doesn't add anything.

When it comes down to it, you want the 4 people likeliest to be townie in the party.


We need the leader to be accountable for his choices, and rolling dice or random choice isn't the way to do that.

In some Bizzaro world where I was elected Party leader, those would be my choices on whom to accompany me, and why.

Another Note:

On November 21 2012 16:35 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 16:12 phagga wrote:
I like Sandroba's plan, his logic is sound. However, I find it dangerous to derive a town read from it, nothing is stopping scum to put up this plan to get themselfes elected.

Why is everyone asking for town reads? I understand that the mechanics are working differently, but everyone just spreading their townreads like the flu will only make it easier for scum to decide who to shoot at night. People like Keirathi and me who have no desire in being elected D1 should not be giving out any townreads, instead we can actually scum hunt in the traditional way and establish ourselfes as town this way. I even think that most candidates should not be throwing out their town reads unless they seem to be a serious candidate (meaning several people have voiced interest in voting that person).



The reason we're not doing traditional scumhunting is because we don't have the power to lynch scum. Our time is best used determining who is most likely town, as we're (hopefully) voting for townies as party leader.

I've touched on this a few times. Hopefully this is the last time clarification is needed. This game isn't about scumhunting. Rather, it revolves around townhunting.


Hope that helps.


I see a couple people have questions for me. I'll make a followup post for them within the hour and then I'm calling it a night.


Scumhunting is always usefull. But, I agree to a point with this quote. We aren't lynching someone this cycle (That we know of), we are electing a Party Leader, which implys that we need to find town, hence, townhunting is important, at least for this cycle. In the end, however, we do need to find scum, so that town KP can be directed towards scum, and so that we DON'T elect them to the party at all.

I've got a couple more hours left before I leave to go visit with family and then I won't be back until late (Central US time).
Bio - Breaking it down
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
November 21 2012 21:14 GMT
#926
On November 22 2012 06:10 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 03:56 BioSC wrote:
Good morning folks, glad to see the game has started in full swing. I've got a LOT to catch up on, see you in 20-30 mins.


How's it going?


You sniped me...
Bio - Breaking it down
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 21 2012 21:14 GMT
#927
On November 22 2012 06:07 iamperfection wrote:
i want to be on the team obviosuly

Wanting to be in the team doesn't make you town. Scum definitely want to get into the party to increase town's chances of failing the event.

You're trying really hard to make sure people think that you are town when you really don't need to. People who are familiar with you are quite capable of reading you without you asking, and the fact that you are asking makes me less likely to trust my instincts.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 21 2012 21:15 GMT
#928
Vote Count

Kitaman27 (1): Kitaman27

Djodref (1): djodref

Sandroba (4): risk.nuke, Hopeless1der, Acrofales, kushm4sta

Dienosore (1): Dienosore

Toadesstern (1): Oatsmaster

Syllogism (4): Marvellosity, Clarity_nl, iamperfection, TheChronicler

Acrofales (1): Promethelax


Players who have yet to vote (12): CaveJohnson, Hapahauli, Z-BosoN, strongandbig, goodkarma, BioSC, Keirathi, syllogism, phagga, Adam4167, sandroba, Toadesstern

Remember that voting is mandatory.

All votes must be in by Thursday, Nov 22 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 21:16 GMT
#929
I'm not that impressed Bio. A townread on marv, syllo, sand and the fact that we shouldnt be scumhunting, but we should.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 21:18 GMT
#930
If you want to be fashionably late you have to be fashionable.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18112 Posts
November 21 2012 21:18 GMT
#931
On November 22 2012 06:11 iamperfection wrote:
just not seeing the effort acro doesn't seem like to me that you really want to figure out my alignment

Thank you for pointing out what I do and don't want to do. What I don't want to do is plough through dozens of pages of old games to figure out your town meta, when I am not feeling you're town simply based on how you're playing this game. I obviously got your meta wrong and Keirathi has updated me on it (not sure where I got the idea it was constructive... I could've sworn someone in this thread said so), but I still fail to see how your playstyle is contributing to a townie atmosphere, scumhunting, or even putting forward a decent campaign for how to get a party in the minigames. That does not read like a town player to me.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 21 2012 21:19 GMT
#932
Biosc

that shit was enough to give you a town read on marv thats an insult to marv imo
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 21 2012 21:24 GMT
#933
On November 22 2012 06:15 GreYMisT wrote:
Vote Count

Kitaman27 (1): Kitaman27

Djodref (1): djodref

Sandroba (4): risk.nuke, Hopeless1der, Acrofales, kushm4sta

Dienosore (1): Dienosore

Toadesstern (1): Oatsmaster

Syllogism (4): Marvellosity, Clarity_nl, iamperfection, TheChronicler

Acrofales (1): Promethelax


Players who have yet to vote (12): CaveJohnson, Hapahauli, Z-BosoN, strongandbig, goodkarma, BioSC, Keirathi, syllogism, phagga, Adam4167, sandroba, Toadesstern

Remember that voting is mandatory.

All votes must be in by Thursday, Nov 22 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

Does that mean you can actually vote for yourself? I figured that's not possible oO
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 21:25 GMT
#934
On November 19 2012 09:43 GreYMisT wrote:


Voting rules:

1. Voting is done in a separate thread. Please keep votes there, and only vote there. Do not PM me your vote.
2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote Qatol. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update vote counts whenever I get the chance.
3. No conditional voting.
4. You may vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game.
5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses).
6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.





#4
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 21 2012 21:27 GMT
#935
On November 22 2012 06:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 09:43 GreYMisT wrote:


Voting rules:

1. Voting is done in a separate thread. Please keep votes there, and only vote there. Do not PM me your vote.
2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote Qatol. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update vote counts whenever I get the chance.
3. No conditional voting.
4. You may vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game.
5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses).
6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.





#4


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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 21 2012 21:29 GMT
#936
also @ biosc

anyone giving you scum feels i know you said town hunting more important but you must have something.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 21 2012 21:32 GMT
#937
I didn't stealth vote, really. It's just that I forgot to use the voting thread before.
And yeah I am here lurking. I'm trying to keep up with the thread. It's hard.

Why aren't I posting that much?
Well I'm kind of lost. i haven't been reading super closely and this is my first game that's themed so heavily.

Any other questions? I love answering questions.
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
November 21 2012 21:33 GMT
#938
On November 22 2012 06:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm not that impressed Bio. A townread on marv, syllo, sand and the fact that we shouldnt be scumhunting, but we should.


If you aren't going to read my one post, why should I be impressed with you?
Bio - Breaking it down
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 21:34 GMT
#939
On November 22 2012 06:33 BioSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 06:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm not that impressed Bio. A townread on marv, syllo, sand and the fact that we shouldnt be scumhunting, but we should.


If you aren't going to read my one post, why should I be impressed with you?


I did read it. Tell me what I got wrong.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 21 2012 21:34 GMT
#940
On November 22 2012 06:14 BioSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 06:10 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:56 BioSC wrote:
Good morning folks, glad to see the game has started in full swing. I've got a LOT to catch up on, see you in 20-30 mins.


How's it going?


You sniped me...

Yeah sorry,
On November 22 2012 06:14 BioSC wrote:
Kay, that took longer than I thought. You guys type too much.

Re-reading through the OP/Daypost, I firmly believe that it's in towns best interest to win each event. Hurp derp, obvious, I know, but the plans to intentionally put someone who's "questionable" on the team a bad idea since if he is scum, it may result in a lost event. I believe, at least for this cycle, we should be putting 4 people together who are most likely town to try an win this and every challenge. Should the event fail, then we can have a look at people on the team who are most likely to be scum and act accordingly.

Now, boiling away all the fat from the discussion, a few people have popped up for the leaders, both of whom I would have no problems electing as party leader, Syllo and Sandroba.

I'm liking Sandroba simply because I agree with his plan insomuch as picking town reads. The way he stated it and stated it early makes me have a town read on him early. I would, however, like him to at least let us know whom he plans on picking party-wise, so if he's elected party leader we can know his thought process behind each individual.

Syllogism for much of the same reason, simple plan of trying to win the events which I can get behind. This post in particular stuck out to me as why I would be ok with supporting him as well.

Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 17:33 syllogism wrote:
But getting a team together is not a collective effort; players only have to identify one likely townie who is also likely capable of identifying 3 additional ones. If I was a party leader, I wouldn't pay much attention to who most people think are town. As such I suppose it can be argued the possible party leaders should devote more time on town hunting, but everyone else should mostly just justify their party leader vote and spend the rest of their efforts on finding mafia.

Do you agree that it's easier to get reads if people post and explain their mafia reads than if they only talk about who they find to likely be town?


Finally, I would have supported Marv for party leader, but since he doesn't want it, it would be silly to vote for him. I do believe him to be town, based on his response to Chronic's plan:

Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 12:45 marvellosity wrote:
On November 21 2012 12:42 TheChronicler wrote:
On November 21 2012 12:41 marvellosity wrote:
i wonder how long we can discuss this infinitely awful idea for.


Respond to my modified version?


if i'm leader and i choose my strongest 3 townreads, why the fuck do I want people who aren't strong reads on my team? I chose those 3 people for a reason.

People will be discussing who should potentially be in any party anyway. No-one is prevented from doing this, so giving them some arbitrary power to choose doesn't add anything.

When it comes down to it, you want the 4 people likeliest to be townie in the party.


We need the leader to be accountable for his choices, and rolling dice or random choice isn't the way to do that.

In some Bizzaro world where I was elected Party leader, those would be my choices on whom to accompany me, and why.

Another Note:

Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 16:35 goodkarma wrote:
On November 21 2012 16:12 phagga wrote:
I like Sandroba's plan, his logic is sound. However, I find it dangerous to derive a town read from it, nothing is stopping scum to put up this plan to get themselfes elected.

Why is everyone asking for town reads? I understand that the mechanics are working differently, but everyone just spreading their townreads like the flu will only make it easier for scum to decide who to shoot at night. People like Keirathi and me who have no desire in being elected D1 should not be giving out any townreads, instead we can actually scum hunt in the traditional way and establish ourselfes as town this way. I even think that most candidates should not be throwing out their town reads unless they seem to be a serious candidate (meaning several people have voiced interest in voting that person).



The reason we're not doing traditional scumhunting is because we don't have the power to lynch scum. Our time is best used determining who is most likely town, as we're (hopefully) voting for townies as party leader.

I've touched on this a few times. Hopefully this is the last time clarification is needed. This game isn't about scumhunting. Rather, it revolves around townhunting.


Hope that helps.


I see a couple people have questions for me. I'll make a followup post for them within the hour and then I'm calling it a night.


Scumhunting is always usefull. But, I agree to a point with this quote. We aren't lynching someone this cycle (That we know of), we are electing a Party Leader, which implys that we need to find town, hence, townhunting is important, at least for this cycle. In the end, however, we do need to find scum, so that town KP can be directed towards scum, and so that we DON'T elect them to the party at all.

I've got a couple more hours left before I leave to go visit with family and then I won't be back until late (Central US time).

Hypothetically if you were elected partyleader now, who would you choose to bring?
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