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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 03:44 GMT
#360
Quantity of information does not equal quality of information.

Moving on... I agree with hapa that the person we vote for has to be clear town, but not newbie town as they need to be strong analytically.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 03:46 GMT
#364
One thing no one has mentioned that we have to consider is that sending people on missions will affect their hp in some way I'm sure, this means we can't just use the same party setup every time. Using the 4 towniest people mission 1 might hurt us down the line.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 03:49 GMT
#370
If we elect a scum person he WILL be controlling everything.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 03:53 GMT
#373
Sharing is caring?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 03:59 GMT
#381
On November 21 2012 12:57 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 12:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
Sharing is caring?


Sharing is great when votes are made, It is early in the day and allowing everyone to continue to play without knowledge of each others town reads is probably for the best. No need for scum to get a chance to plant seeds of doubt on our town reads or to keep working on rowing themselves as townies if we have green reads on them right now.

You'll know my town read when I am confidant enough in it to place a vote. I'd like to learn Acro's at the same time.


I'd rather have scum trying to fuck with us than not.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 04:04 GMT
#387
Lol.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 04:16 GMT
#397
On November 21 2012 13:13 Z-BosoN wrote:
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On November 21 2012 13:05 iamperfection wrote:
also why do we have to have the leader select all 3 wouldn't it be best for the town to put some input on the other team members?


That was my original train of thought. But should the decision become the leader's, that puts a TON of pressure on him (if he is very transparent in his thoughts), and helps consolidate our read on said leader.


But if we put up our strongest townread, doesn't that defeat the purpose?

I think we should play more to our wincon when it comes to missions and just scumhunt like it's a regular game.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 04:21 GMT
#404
It would make sense if it wasn't actively against town wincon. We want mafia dead, sure, but we want lavos dead more.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 04:25 GMT
#411
On November 21 2012 13:24 Z-BosoN wrote:
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On November 21 2012 13:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
It would make sense if it wasn't actively against town wincon. We want mafia dead, sure, but we want lavos dead more.


Lavos appears at a predetermined time we can't control

OR

when all mafia are dead. We want mafia dead.


I stand corrected. Still I don't believe using who we elect as a way to scumhunt is the proper way to go about things. We don't know what happens if we fail a mission.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 04:26 GMT
#415
On November 21 2012 13:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 13:24 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 21 2012 13:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
It would make sense if it wasn't actively against town wincon. We want mafia dead, sure, but we want lavos dead more.


Lavos appears at a predetermined time we can't control

OR

when all mafia are dead. We want mafia dead.


I only saw the town win con as

Show nested quote +

Town: Defeat Lavos.


So yeah..


No, zbo is right.

Lavos will spawn at a predetermined time in the game. If all mafia die, Lavos will be summoned immediately.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 04:34 GMT
#429
On November 21 2012 13:33 Dienosore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 13:29 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 21 2012 13:27 Dienosore wrote:
I'm friendly and wise, so really there is no reason NOT to vote for me :D


No, you don't get to come in here all nice guy and shit. What do you think of what has happened so far? Reads? Thoughts on who should be party leader?
Tip: it's not you.


I don't think anything has happened so far, because it hasn't. Just mindless dribble pouring out from people trying to turn nothing into something.

Why don't we let the game develop a little first so at least we know what we have to work towards?


Because if we all have your attitude nothing would get done.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 04:35 GMT
#431
On November 21 2012 13:34 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 13:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 21 2012 13:33 Dienosore wrote:
On November 21 2012 13:29 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 21 2012 13:27 Dienosore wrote:
I'm friendly and wise, so really there is no reason NOT to vote for me :D


No, you don't get to come in here all nice guy and shit. What do you think of what has happened so far? Reads? Thoughts on who should be party leader?
Tip: it's not you.


I don't think anything has happened so far, because it hasn't. Just mindless dribble pouring out from people trying to turn nothing into something.

Why don't we let the game develop a little first so at least we know what we have to work towards?


Because if we all have your attitude nothing would get done.

yes thats true but what do you think town or scum for him.

No noob gonna do what he did right?


If you're new you don't do that, no. But do we know he's not a smurf?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 04:38 GMT
#436
On November 21 2012 13:36 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 13:35 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 21 2012 13:34 iamperfection wrote:
On November 21 2012 13:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 21 2012 13:33 Dienosore wrote:
On November 21 2012 13:29 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 21 2012 13:27 Dienosore wrote:
I'm friendly and wise, so really there is no reason NOT to vote for me :D


No, you don't get to come in here all nice guy and shit. What do you think of what has happened so far? Reads? Thoughts on who should be party leader?
Tip: it's not you.


I don't think anything has happened so far, because it hasn't. Just mindless dribble pouring out from people trying to turn nothing into something.

Why don't we let the game develop a little first so at least we know what we have to work towards?


Because if we all have your attitude nothing would get done.

yes thats true but what do you think town or scum for him.

No noob gonna do what he did right?


If you're new you don't do that, no. But do we know he's not a smurf?

because he has a bunch of posts outside of the mafia section of tl.


Ehhh, a fair point. Maybe Dieno can just tell us himself, Dieno?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 04:42 GMT
#446
He's explained quite clearly. He generally gets a read on marv quite fast, and if he gets a town read he'll vote for him.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 04:48 GMT
#451
Dieno do you have any intention of being taken seriously this game?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 04:50 GMT
#456
On November 21 2012 13:49 Dienosore wrote:
Are you under the impression that I'm not serious about wanting to be elected?


So you don't care what we'll think about your future reads or opinions, then?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 04:55 GMT
#467
On November 21 2012 13:53 Dienosore wrote:
You sure are giving me an easy route to fly under the radar as long as I stay silly...


There is a special place in hell for people like you.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 05:00 GMT
#471
On November 21 2012 13:55 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 13:53 Dienosore wrote:
You sure are giving me an easy route to fly under the radar as long as I stay silly...


There is a special place in hell for people like you.


Okay I should clarify on this, so let me ask you a question.
If you are town why would you want to remove your own credibility?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 08:55 GMT
#566
On November 21 2012 17:34 Dienosore wrote:
In an effort to gain your trust so that I can become the first leader, I have two solid scum reads that I feel need to be shared.


Djodref:

Supports sandroba, though he (weakly) nominated himself. Wants Clarity and Lamp on his team. Has asked a few times to different people what their reads are. Maybe mining for info? Said "I don't think it would be fair for the scum team not being able to kill the party members" Also, put out a hit on a town marv and town Hapa for being dangerous to the mafia. I'd say 80% sure he is scum


goodkarma:

Seems to be in favor of Sandroba for pres, even though he nominated himself for it. wants sandroba and promethelax on his team. Put emphasis on finding townies, not scummies, which could mean he is scum. Asked questions that feel as if they come from mafia perspective (dealing with towny death and kill immunity). Attacks back at Keirathi after he explains that we dont know HOW the scum kills by saying "scum must be able to remove it somehow" Uses distancing language "town" when talking about possible medics. I'm 70% sure he is scum. Seems to be town hunting.



Okay so you explained what both of them are doing but you have not explained why it is scummy. Djo is "mining info" and goodkarma is "town hunting". Both of which are perfectly reasonable ways to play this game as either alignment. Please don't drop random percentages, and stop posting that poster.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 21 2012 09:20 GMT
#573
On November 21 2012 18:14 Dienosore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 17:55 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 21 2012 17:34 Dienosore wrote:
In an effort to gain your trust so that I can become the first leader, I have two solid scum reads that I feel need to be shared.


Djodref:

Supports sandroba, though he (weakly) nominated himself. Wants Clarity and Lamp on his team. Has asked a few times to different people what their reads are. Maybe mining for info? Said "I don't think it would be fair for the scum team not being able to kill the party members" Also, put out a hit on a town marv and town Hapa for being dangerous to the mafia. I'd say 80% sure he is scum


goodkarma:

Seems to be in favor of Sandroba for pres, even though he nominated himself for it. wants sandroba and promethelax on his team. Put emphasis on finding townies, not scummies, which could mean he is scum. Asked questions that feel as if they come from mafia perspective (dealing with towny death and kill immunity). Attacks back at Keirathi after he explains that we dont know HOW the scum kills by saying "scum must be able to remove it somehow" Uses distancing language "town" when talking about possible medics. I'm 70% sure he is scum. Seems to be town hunting.



Okay so you explained what both of them are doing but you have not explained why it is scummy. Djo is "mining info" and goodkarma is "town hunting". Both of which are perfectly reasonable ways to play this game as either alignment. Please don't drop random percentages, and stop posting that poster.


It's less what they are doing, and more of HOW. I'm really good at reading language, like what verb tenses they are using or watching for specific pronoun connotations. For both of these guys, it feels very much to me like they are talking from a mafioso perspective, asking questions a scumlord would ask, etc...

That being said, I am not 100% on any of my reads yet and don't really want to throw up any red herrings. All this is only based off of two pages of material. Give me another day or so (assuming these guys keep talking) and I'll have narrowed things down much better.


They..... use certain verb tenses and pronoun connotations.....Asking questions a scumlord would ask?

Can someone please give me a read on Dieno or tell me I should ignore him, I really want to move on from him but every time I think his idiocy stopped it returns with renewed ego.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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