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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 25 2012 01:20 GMT
#2741
My team has the advantage to be composed of town members (I have strong town reads on Acro and Clarity) and the members are new for most of them. This way, we can make our townieness even clearer for everybody ^^
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 25 2012 01:20 GMT
#2742
On November 25 2012 10:19 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 10:12 GreYMisT wrote:
Everyone I am very sorry for this, It should have been included in the daypost but I rushed it. Luckily I caught it only an hour in and this shall be editied in.

In addition to the party only being able to contain half of the same players as the previous party, the same party leader may not be elected twice in a row.

This means syllogism is ineligible to be elected as leader. This was supposed to be explained via flavor but you know...

Again very sorry that this information was not presented to you guys immediately.



That makes things harder...

So, it should be a no-brainer to shoo in one of the people from the previous successful party.

I would rather not have dienosaur as party leader.

Between Oats and Keir, I flipped a coin and it came up...

##Vote: Keirathi


But in all seriousness, Oats and Keir do not have Syllo-esque reads, and I believe it would be best if they have some guidance for who else they bring. Even if it's just Syllo telling one of them exactly what to do (In fact, I'd approve of this idea.).

What kind of selection process is that...
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 25 2012 01:21 GMT
#2743
I'd like to hear who everyone in the previous party wants to take with them. I don't trust any of your reads like I trust syllo's ;p

Otherwise I'm open to being party leader, I would take 2 of the previous party with me plus some other awesome townie dude.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 25 2012 01:25 GMT
#2744
##Vote Marvellosity

I think he's town, and I trust his town-reading ability more than any possible alternatives at this point.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 25 2012 01:26 GMT
#2745
I would take
Acro,
Marv,
Clarity.

I dont think that scum Acro would soft defend Sandro because there is no upside for scum
Marv is looking more and more townie at the moment.
Clarity also started actually doing 'work' after I made my 'case' on him.
No gg, No skill.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 25 2012 01:27 GMT
#2746
@marv

I think we can limit ourselves to one party member from the last time. Dieno is the most obvious town in my eyes. I don't know how he is still alive but I would definitively take him in my party.
After that, Acro and Clarity deserve to be included. They really look town in my eyes, and I can guess that everyone share this opinion. As a party leader, I feel that I would be the less reliable given my previous views on sandro but I would like to take this opportunity to show everyone my true colors ^^
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
November 25 2012 01:30 GMT
#2747
On November 25 2012 10:25 Hapahauli wrote:
##Vote Marvellosity

I think he's town, and I trust his town-reading ability more than any possible alternatives at this point.



Keep in mind there are other ways of going about this.

Working under the premise that the successful team day one is all but confirmed town, we can cherry pick from that to form a team as quickly as possible.

Pick a decent townie (like Keir), and then use the member whose judgement is arguably strongest (syllo) to determine the remainder of the party to be selected.

Sure, it involves lots of sheeping, but it is a very sound way of removing any potential for mafia manipulation in the selection process.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 25 2012 01:32 GMT
#2748
It's late, I stayed up for the flip, I'm going to clock out now. See you tomorrow.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
TheChronicler
Profile Joined October 2012
Macedonia260 Posts
November 25 2012 01:32 GMT
#2749
200 gold Popcorn You target 2 players. You will be told if they are the same alignment or different.

Night Results: toadesstern and sandroba, same.
Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 25 2012 01:32 GMT
#2750
On November 25 2012 10:30 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 10:25 Hapahauli wrote:
##Vote Marvellosity

I think he's town, and I trust his town-reading ability more than any possible alternatives at this point.



Keep in mind there are other ways of going about this.

Working under the premise that the successful team day one is all but confirmed town, we can cherry pick from that to form a team as quickly as possible.

Pick a decent townie (like Keir), and then use the member whose judgement is arguably strongest (syllo) to determine the remainder of the party to be selected.

Sure, it involves lots of sheeping, but it is a very sound way of removing any potential for mafia manipulation in the selection process.


Well I think there's more consideration than just to create a team that's as "safe" as possible. One of the functions of running these missions is to confirm people as town. In that regard, I don't mind electing players that I'm strongly reading as town, as opposed to "confirmed" townies (via previous mission). We can confirm strong town reads if success, or a possible failure could alert us to a dangerous scumplayer.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
TheChronicler
Profile Joined October 2012
Macedonia260 Posts
November 25 2012 01:33 GMT
#2751
Hit post too soon. Still at pops beat party, I'll be back later.
Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 25 2012 01:33 GMT
#2752
On November 25 2012 10:32 TheChronicler wrote:
200 gold Popcorn You target 2 players. You will be told if they are the same alignment or different.

Night Results: toadesstern and sandroba, same.


Ooooh, popcorn indeed.

a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
TheChronicler
Profile Joined October 2012
Macedonia260 Posts
November 25 2012 01:33 GMT
#2753
Ebwop: that was my n1, btw. Not last night.
Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 25 2012 01:34 GMT
#2754
On November 25 2012 10:32 TheChronicler wrote:
200 gold Popcorn You target 2 players. You will be told if they are the same alignment or different.

Night Results: toadesstern and sandroba, same.

That seems very straightforward. Duly noted.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 25 2012 01:34 GMT
#2755
Chronicler.
Hmm is there a scum reason for doing this?
YES THERE IS. Toad was under pressure last cycle, chronicler was also under pressure. So fake a 'dt' check and BAM TOAD IS SCUM
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 25 2012 01:35 GMT
#2756
On November 25 2012 10:33 TheChronicler wrote:
Ebwop: that was my n1, btw. Not last night.


why did you choose those 2 players?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 25 2012 01:35 GMT
#2757
right.
Why did you check those 2 players?
Toad had nothing on him during cycle 1.

No gg, No skill.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 25 2012 01:35 GMT
#2758
On November 25 2012 10:33 TheChronicler wrote:
Ebwop: that was my n1, btw. Not last night.

So you knew that both lynch targets were the same alignment the whole day...That's actually huge news. Lots of reading to do now.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 25 2012 01:36 GMT
#2759
On November 25 2012 10:32 TheChronicler wrote:
200 gold Popcorn You target 2 players. You will be told if they are the same alignment or different.

Night Results: toadesstern and sandroba, same.




Dieno in my opinion would be the best person to elect leader. He was the target of most of the damage and makes the most sense to lead this mission. The fact that you guys don't trust his abilities is irrelevant. We want a townie as leader and as town, we will come up with the best party for him to select. As for who those should be, I'll come up with a list of my preference tomorrow.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 25 2012 01:36 GMT
#2760
On November 25 2012 10:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Chronicler.
Hmm is there a scum reason for doing this?
YES THERE IS. Toad was under pressure last cycle, chronicler was also under pressure. So fake a 'dt' check and BAM TOAD IS SCUM

1 for 1 trades heavily favor town.
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