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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 30 2012 22:37 GMT
#5292
Oh @ Phagga

Regarding that whole "GoodKarma Contradiction" thing on the D1 party elections, I have no idea where the hell you're going with it, or how him putting one of his town reads on his party is scummy. You keep saying that people had no reason to vote for GK over Sandroba, but how is that a contradiction on his part? That's just your opinion.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 30 2012 22:39 GMT
#5293
On December 01 2012 06:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
His anger makes much more sense if he is scum who "got caught" by mechanics, that might be why it felt genuine.


Yes. Being scum is the only possible way I could be angry about this. I'm not just a really fucking frustrated townie. That's inconceivable.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 30 2012 22:42 GMT
#5298
On December 01 2012 07:41 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 07:39 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
His anger makes much more sense if he is scum who "got caught" by mechanics, that might be why it felt genuine.


Yes. Being scum is the only possible way I could be angry about this. I'm not just a really fucking frustrated townie. That's inconceivable.

Did you ask Greymist if there was an error in your PM?


Nope. I'll try, but I doubt it will go anywhere.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 30 2012 22:48 GMT
#5302
On December 01 2012 07:44 iamperfection wrote:
hapa your one of the few players we have no idea about your role is there a reason?


I don't feel that it's necessary for me to claim. I thought about it (given all this suspicion on me), but ultimately I feel that it's a) not necessary unless I'm in danger of getting lynched and b) it's information that would only help scum at this point

On December 01 2012 07:44 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 07:37 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh @ Phagga

Regarding that whole "GoodKarma Contradiction" thing on the D1 party elections, I have no idea where the hell you're going with it, or how him putting one of his town reads on his party is scummy. You keep saying that people had no reason to vote for GK over Sandroba, but how is that a contradiction on his part? That's just your opinion.


*sigh*

Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 00:19 phagga wrote:
So, I admit, contradiction is the wrong word. His candidature did not make any sense to me with Sandroba in his team.


Why the hell are people not reading my posts? It stands right there that contradiction was the wrong word, and it explains how I felt about it, and why, and it even shows that I am not the only one that thought this way. Just go back an read it.


I read it, and I don't get it. It reads as a really stupid suspicion on GK for including one of his town reads in his candidacy.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 30 2012 22:49 GMT
#5303
On December 01 2012 07:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 07:39 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
His anger makes much more sense if he is scum who "got caught" by mechanics, that might be why it felt genuine.


Yes. Being scum is the only possible way I could be angry about this. I'm not just a really fucking frustrated townie. That's inconceivable.


Because that is exactly what I said, and you understood me 100% correctly.


Well I apologize for being reactive, but it is what it is.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 30 2012 22:52 GMT
#5307
On December 01 2012 07:50 iamperfection wrote:
so it would shed no light on what has been happening at all and it doesn't explain the heal that i received on d2 correct?


No my abilities wouldn't explain anything about the lack of heals.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 30 2012 23:01 GMT
#5313
You're either retarded or scum SnB.

Even if we drop the "changing stance on CJ" thing, fact is, he still voted CJ on no rationale whatsoever. He suspected CJ throughout D2 and never made any attempts to analyze his behavior.

Hell his filter is devoid of actual scumhunting. Any "cases" that he builds are full of fluff and nonsensical analysis.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 30 2012 23:03 GMT
#5315
On December 01 2012 08:02 strongandbig wrote:
he voted drazerk because he was playing like drazerk
then he unvoted him when we found out he is drazerk

totally illogical


fixed.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 30 2012 23:05 GMT
#5317
Ya know what SnB, let's have a scavenger hunt. Find any sensible scumhunting in Phagga's filter. I'll give you a cookie if you do.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2012 00:25 GMT
#5347
I was roleblocked last night. Does any townie want to claim it, or was it a scum RB?

Also, there apparently was some host error regarding my Cycle 3 PM. I received a PM stating I took 50 damage, as opposed to a PM stating that I took no damage and got healed. Hopefully I can get one of the hosts to confirm this. But it's all a bit shellshocking considering I've been arguing about this damn thing for daaaaaaaaaays.



Bossfight Speculation

From what I remember from the game, "Flea" has extremely high magic resistance. Therefore, it's probably best to attack with some sort of "physical" form of damage.

Slash has no resistances that I know of, but the sword behind him on the wall is relevant in the bossfight in-game. After you do enough damage to him, he picks it up and starts doing more damage with his attacks. I'm not sure what this means for the event though.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2012 00:30 GMT
#5354
On December 01 2012 09:25 Hapahauli wrote:
I was roleblocked last night. Does any townie want to claim it, or was it a scum RB?

Also, there apparently was some host error regarding my Cycle 3 PM. I received a PM stating I took 50 damage, as opposed to a PM stating that I took no damage and got healed. Hopefully I can get one of the hosts to confirm this. But it's all a bit shellshocking considering I've been arguing about this damn thing for daaaaaaaaaays.


So no I can't get this confirmed apparently since it's an outside-the-game factor. However, I hope atleast that the 100 damage I received from Toad helps corroborate my story, given that it fits with the ability
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2012 00:36 GMT
#5356
On December 01 2012 09:27 goodkarma wrote:
Slash:

Based off a boss guide on gamefaqs, slash has two phases: unarmed and armed (with his sword). You loot his sword after beating him... With his sword he has stupidly high physical defense, so charging him would be terrible.

So that leaves two options:

1) Grab the sword
2) use a tech attack

I'm not sure of what the success rate would be for just grabbing his sword (you can't do this in the game), but using a tech attack would be far better than just running at him (and presumably using physical attacks). Therefore, I would propose using a tech attack. Better to directly try to kill the boss. You can grab his sword after...

As for Flea:
Here, apparently magic attacks aren't so hot... Since our Frog doesn't have the powered-up Masamune, I'm unsure what kind of damage he could muster. And as for Robo, he isn't really the strongest physical damage character...

Even without the Masamune, I would think attacking with Frog would be best here.


Link to gamefaqs:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/snes/563538-chrono-trigger/faqs/8268

type "in boss: (insert boss name here)" to quickly find the boss fight description.


Slash:
The Tech Attack seems intuitively a less-risky option. I'm inclined to go for the pure damage here.

Flea:
We also should consider that her first form is "fake," and killing that form mana-drains whoever hit her last. What this means... I have no idea. Even so, I still like the idea of Toad giving her a whack.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2012 00:42 GMT
#5360
On December 01 2012 09:37 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 09:30 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 01 2012 09:25 Hapahauli wrote:
I was roleblocked last night. Does any townie want to claim it, or was it a scum RB?

Also, there apparently was some host error regarding my Cycle 3 PM. I received a PM stating I took 50 damage, as opposed to a PM stating that I took no damage and got healed. Hopefully I can get one of the hosts to confirm this. But it's all a bit shellshocking considering I've been arguing about this damn thing for daaaaaaaaaays.


So no I can't get this confirmed apparently since it's an outside-the-game factor. However, I hope atleast that the 100 damage I received from Toad helps corroborate my story, given that it fits with the ability

What the hell. That's literally bullshit if you were sent the wrong PM that is 100% cause for a lynch but the host won't admit it to the thread. Without host confirmation, I would still want to lynch you because what other option do you have besides lying?

Did Hapa receive the wrong PM cycle 3?


I'm really angry about it, and any peer pressure dedicated towards supporting my cause is appreciated.

However, I do see the hosts' point - a host confirmation would confirm that I'm telling the truth about my night actions. While I don't see how it would be "gamebreaking" or even alignment-indicative for that matter, it's still nonetheless gives me an advantage over other players (confirming my night results).
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2012 00:48 GMT
#5362
Anywho, I'm casting my vote for Option C on both actions:

##Slash “C”
##Flea “C"


I'm pretty comfortable with these, and I feel we should take care of this as quickly as possible so we can get back to scumhunting.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2012 01:05 GMT
#5372
On December 01 2012 09:57 Keirathi wrote:
Why is everyone content to spend the last bit of MP on a tech attack vs Slash? What if we need that MP for the second part of the day (since the first part apparently only lasts 24 hours)?


I think this is fair. What other option would you propose though? The "grab the sword" thing screams "IT'S A TRAP" to me. Perhaps plain charging in is the best option? Slash's first form (in the game anyway) isn't particularly threatening.

On December 01 2012 09:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
...
The situation with your cycle pms is regrettable hapa. I don't think there's much more to say about that. I guess it would be an easier pill to swallow had you asked the hosts to confirm your cycle 3 pm much much earlier. I don't think the issue needs any more discussion though.
...


Yah, host-error really hadn't crossed my mind until someone mentioned that I should PM GreYMisT just in case. And well... that's that. As far as whether you can trust me on this or not, that's unfortunately up to you guys and not me. I'd like to think that y'all are reasonable people and can see where I'm coming from.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2012 01:07 GMT
#5375
On December 01 2012 10:06 iamperfection wrote:
why is grabing the sword a bad idea for slash it sounds like he gets better with it?

Can you try that in the actual game?


No you can't do it in-game. You enter the boss-room, fight him for a bit, and then he grabs the sword mid-way through the fight when you do enough damage to him. You do gain the sword after the fight though.

I'm just generally hesitant of actions that seem too good to be true really.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2012 01:10 GMT
#5379
##Slash: B
##Flea: C


I talked myself into changing my vote for Slash. Charging in seems like a reasonable option considering a possible transformation here, as well as concerns about saving MP. Crude, but it seems like it would be effective.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2012 20:26 GMT
#5508
On December 01 2012 19:31 syllogism wrote:
Also I don't believe hapa's claim about a host error. They have been reading the thread and there is very little doubt that they have known about the issue for quite a while. It wouldn't have taken this long to notice the problem. Greymist even answered a question regarding how damage and healing is displayed in PMs when we were discussing hapa's missing PM.

If you are mafia, which I think is likely, I think it's pretty cowardly to attempt to hide behind a host error. You could have asked him about how healing mechanic works, but did not. Furthermore, I think any major, game affecting host errors should be acknowledged in some manner.


Syllo. You are a piece of shit.

I believe in playing to win, and I make no secret of that, but I would never lie about something like host error. Lying about host PM's would be even more of a dick move than what you're doing now, and I will never stoop to your level.

But to sit there and call me a fucking coward is beyond what I can take. Me a coward? Your entire fucking case against me boils down to a stupid PM and "lol someone like hapa has to be scum 'cause idunno." THAT's being a fucking coward, parading around a worthless case and hiding behind worthless reads and being unwilling to do any analysis whatsoever.

I will have some very select words for you post-game.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2012 21:12 GMT
#5513
"lol you don't have to be angry if you're not scum but you are coward scum"

Go fuck yourself.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 02 2012 00:19 GMT
#5547
Path:
~2:35 in this video = path in the actual game:
+ Show Spoiler +


B seems to match up the best with the pattern (there are differences, but overall it's similar), therefore my vote's on B.

Magus:
His special attack in game hurts like a bitch. I'm all for taking the risk-averse option here and making sure no one in our party dies. Option A is my vote.
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