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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 02 2012 05:00 GMT
#1581
Yamato playing anti-marv. So true. I'm sorry marv but they were gonna lynch me if I kept trying to keep my posts minimal.

You have NO IDEA how much I typed in the first few posts of the game only to delete it all and post 1 line. ROFL.
Writer@WriterYamato
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 02 2012 05:01 GMT
#1582
Some quick thoughts on the game.

Listen to anything Marv, Hapa, and Iamp say over anything I say

Marv had scum nailed d1. Marv is boss though but it shows you guys were catchable

Scum

Kickstart
- Your main tell was calling oats bad and wanting to lynch him. Calling a player bad means you most likely think they are town. Wanting to lynch a player you think is town = scummy as hell

Helo
- Marv noticed that you were, in general, uninvolved in town d1. Also, you seemed to completely ignore kickstart, who Marv had already nailed by then

Town

Yamato
- Your main problem was locking in to your reads. You need to keep an open mind as town and reconsider your reads every so often. I usually do so after each day/night post using the new info.

I suggest you read the guides, especially Ver's XXX analysis, to help with your reads more. It'll come with experience for sure. Don't be too tough on yourself this game. You picked it up after d1 and tried to push your reads. That's half the battle

Cheesecake
- We covered most in coaching. Most of your problem was not being able to distinguish between bad town and scum, which is quite hard at times

SDM
- I'm pretty sure you talked to Marv for coaching. I'd say he has better input than me. One thing I'd say is that you overthink things once in a while. However, you had a solid game, hence the n1 nk.

Aqua - Your d1 case on kickstart was good, but you let it get ignored. Push your reads!!!!!!!!! At worst, you lynch a townie. At best, you lynch a scum. At least you lynch the person that you think is scummiest, which is the most important. You probably wouldn't have been lynched d2 if you were more aggressive d1

Munk-E - activity was your main problem. As town, you have three jobs

1) Be active
2) Establish your townieness
3) Scumhunt

2 and 3 pretty much work with each other. If you don't have 1) though, chances are you don't have 2) and 3)

Just be active and post your thoughts on what's going on. At worst, you get lynched and provide town with reads. Your lynch gave town little information

Jacob - You got the picture pretty well. I don't have much to say on you. For a while on d1 I found you scummy, but that's just me :D. Marv might have better input here

Oats
- Oh oats, dear oats. Your d1 really hurt the town. Your were being too obnoxious, and in most normal games, you probably would have been lynched d1.

Establish your townieness and scumhunt. You can't use that blue role as a safety net. You made yourself worthless in terms of night actions. Also, by having that claim, the longer you didn't get nked, the more suspicions will be raised on you.

Be more compatible with your town, especially when you have a valuable power role
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 02 2012 05:04 GMT
#1583
Thanks for the advice, debears.
Writer@WriterYamato
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 02 2012 05:04 GMT
#1584
I spose that makes sense about calling him bad then voting him. I just saw it as an easy opportunity though ;o
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 02 2012 05:06 GMT
#1585
Also, Iamp warned me about referencing coaching in game. For the record, I didn't because Marv didn't coach me this game xD
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 02 2012 05:07 GMT
#1586
Yeah I played so fucking bad.
I thought playing more actively would prevent me from getting blue sniped cause doc hasnt that much extra info that I can slip.
No gg, No skill.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 05:10:21
December 02 2012 05:08 GMT
#1587
On December 02 2012 14:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah I played so fucking bad.
I thought playing more actively would prevent me from getting blue sniped cause doc hasnt that much extra info that I can slip.


See my fake doc breadcrumb? xD

Fuck yes editing
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 05:10:07
December 02 2012 05:08 GMT
#1588
Thanks debears - I'm sensing a pattern in, well, every single piece of advice I've been given about this game
And it's all correct.

EDIT: Hey, I can edit now.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 05:11:40
December 02 2012 05:11 GMT
#1589
Yeah it wasn't a bad game over all. I have to admit while the game was probably already lost at the very end kick telling the only non committed town that he was a scum read wasn't the best idea But still played a good game over all.

Helos I thought was blue forever because he wasn't super active but appeared so cuddly and cute (or... something).

EDIT! (because I can)
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 02 2012 05:11 GMT
#1590
Seems I messed up really early with the Oats tuneling because the entirety of the Obs chat had me pinned down -_-. Good thing town didn't? xD
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 02 2012 05:13 GMT
#1591
On December 02 2012 14:11 Kickstart wrote:
Seems I messed up really early with the Oats tuneling because the entirety of the Obs chat had me pinned down -_-. Good thing town didn't? xD


If we weren't so preoccupied with Yamato/Oats shenanigans I think I would've picked up on it.

Summary of this game: Town played bad, and then suddenly Aqua lynch.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 02 2012 05:13 GMT
#1592
On December 02 2012 14:08 Aquanim wrote:
Thanks debears - I'm sensing a pattern in, well, every single piece of advice I've been given about this game
And it's all correct.

EDIT: Hey, I can edit now.

Aquanim, Vanilla Townie has been modkilled for editting.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
December 02 2012 05:16 GMT
#1593
lolol
you can't kill a dead man
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 02 2012 05:17 GMT
#1594
Sorry my town brethren. I will play better next game.
Writer@WriterYamato
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 02 2012 05:19 GMT
#1595
Hey, Yamato. No hard feelings. This was basically my first game as town too (XXX never happened. What happens in XXX stays in XXX). I'm obsing the next newbie, maybe you'll be in it.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
December 02 2012 05:20 GMT
#1596
Summary of this game: Town played bad, and then suddenly Aqua lynch.

Only too happy to contribute.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 02 2012 05:21 GMT
#1597
DarthPunk
11-27-2012
08:38 PM ET (US)
cheesecake is not claiming medic he is trying to wifom scum about the shot imo.

So confused why they chose to NK SDM after my fake doc breadcrumb.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 05:26:35
December 02 2012 05:23 GMT
#1598
Incognito's Newbie Guide to Mafia wrote:
When you have limited KP and multiple targets you wish to eliminate, it is important to prioritize your kills.

1. Posters that are making sense and are on the right track
2. Townies that are known for being dangerous analysts
3. Blue roles (especially DTs and Medics)
4. Confirmed townies

I'd say SDM falls under one of the first two, particularly in a newbie.
On the other hand, he might have been too obvious as a kill (and thus protect)
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 02 2012 05:34 GMT
#1599
Yeah SDM looked by far most townie. He's also a strong player.

Always kill the most townie, strong players. They're usually more dangerous than the good ole blues.

Blue roles aren't as great as they seem most of the time
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 02 2012 05:35 GMT
#1600
Yeah I wanted to kill SDM reaaaaaaaally early D1 just because I felt he was making the most sense of anyone.
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