Newbie Mini Mafia XXXI - Page 63

So I will re-hash old topics and this will be an extensive case. I did plenty of these as scum but the difference is I will be very clear and precise about my reads and what I think everything means.
I also might not quote the whole thing when referring to things because it is really hard to see the formatting in a word doc.
Why yamato is scum.

He wants to appear active without actually being active in the early stages of the game.

He goes on CC for playing without contributing saying “None of this reads town to me, at all.”

Then a soon as CC replies he folds beginning his first major post which is a defence. Ending with the conclusion of.

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I'm on the fence about Mr. Cheesecake. His posting is still mostly defending himself, and attacking two players who posted early, me and Helo. That kind of behavior doesn't really indicate alignment, but if he keeps coming after me with posts that don't even address my concerns about him, I'm going to vote for him.

Most of what I've posted so far has been to get a reaction, and it has worked. How people answer questions and accusations are definitely tells.”

He has gone from doesn’t look like town to on the fence and also tries to prohibit CC from going after him with “if he keeps coming after me with posts that don't even address my concerns about him, I'm going to vote for him.”

However there is the “if he doesn’t address the concerns” part I will admit.

Then the hypocrisy.

In regards to oats he says this. “You want my opinion on Oats? He is probably just a bored townie early on because him giving some silly read is just to spark discussion on something.”
When before he said this regarding himself.
“Most of what I've posted so far has been to get a reaction, and it has worked. How people answer questions and accusations are definitely tells.”

Isn’t this the same thing? Why is it silly when oats says it and logical when he says it.

I’ll include this for his clarification but personally I don’t think it changes much.

Ok I started a case on kickstart then I thought hmm no helo is probably more scum and after reading a bit abandoned it in favour of a case on yamato after writing a bit about that I have been pointed to kick....

So here is the case on why kick is scum.
1. His meta is completely different, he has said many times meta isn’t good in newbie games but I find it very telling. (for example I can get a good grasp of a meta read on sdm and such)
From yamato...

“As far as reads on other people. Kickstarter's sheer aggression when defending Cheesecake against Oats is astounding. He uses vulgar language more than once and seems wholly preoccupied with Oats' vote being on CC. He doesn't even care if other people think Oats is scum necessarily, so why did he vote for him? The play doesn't really make sense because all he did was cause a whole lot of uproar over a play that no one else saw as scummy. If anything, THAT seems like a scum play.”

While you shouldn’t care if other people think someone is scummy as you don’t want to sheep oh great I just talked my way out of this case as well....