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JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 06:54 GMT
#327
On November 26 2012 15:23 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 13:23 JacobStrangelove wrote:
That is true and it is a good point... however when I was scum I set out to bus everyone I could. (not common though) oh and don't worry about it being to early for that I love association cases.


Early D1 association cases suck, you should know better.


Hey I know! I pointed it out...
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 07:12 GMT
#333
On November 26 2012 16:07 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 22:06 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On November 25 2012 21:59 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
On November 25 2012 21:53 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Hey just asking the question! Looking back I may have read into that.... a little too much but we don't have much to work with.


It wasn't so much your argument that confused me, but the sentence containing a double negation and a parentheses within a parentheses within a parentheses.

Did I get it correctly that you thought giving Oat an easy out was scummy by Kick?


Yes. I have to kick that habit.


I am just confused why you are so angry and aggressive. *mental note to check history*
It just looked like a strange thing to ask with the tail end out. Also we have to compare the two votes as they are the only two votes there are. We may find as you say they are completely different however but not as different as you think.


But yeah I was thinking along the lines of oats put a target of his back. However some people *cough* kush *cough* use that play even as mafia to variable success.


How did this work out for you? I'd expect that when you're suspicious of me, you would look into this before giving me a town read. Unless you know, you're not at all suspicious of me because you know I'm town.


Ahh I changed subject without mentioning it. Was referring to kick. I must admit I forgot to look into it. Will do that now.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 07:17 GMT
#334
Woah, Kickstarter was so nice in The Mario game. Not sure but it looks like a complete meta change. (although going of one game isn't strong) just wondering why the aggressive comments for "bad play" when he claims to have been a victim of that.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 07:56 GMT
#338
On November 26 2012 16:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
nah, I think that he was kinda sad about the mafia game because he got played, so now he is trying to make sure that it doesnt happen to him again.




How do you know this?
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 08:28 GMT
#343
Hey I asked questions "just wondering why the aggressive comments" I do expect answers just because I don't say "this is a question" trust me when he reads that he probably will answer. Theory was implied But yeah I have been rather nonchalant.

because you want me to be clearer (oats)

Yamato is a scum read, his bit about.
On November 25 2012 13:51 yamato77 wrote:
If we sheep oats and lynch cheesecake, and he flips town, at least our day 2 lynch is an easy decision.


Could be a way to try and get two town lynched with one stone. Saying it black and white like that.

Before posting more than two posts (basically) he posts this

On November 25 2012 14:16 yamato77 wrote:
Still feel uneasy about me?


Signals he is paranoid about what people think about him.

Then does this

On November 25 2012 14:53 yamato77 wrote:
I don't really care for your topics of discussion, but that's about it.

On November 25 2012 15:09 yamato77 wrote:
I think the discussion is fine as it is.

On November 25 2012 15:12 yamato77 wrote:
That is, between Aqua and I, the only other 2 people actively keeping up.


whaa?

On November 26 2012 05:34 yamato77 wrote:
Mr. Cheesecake is playing without contributing. He's written a lot, but most of it is absolutely useless to a town looking for scum. His policy discussion and talk about other mafia games he's played doesn't help hunt for other players, it seems like more of a defense for himself. Then he calls out two players, myself and Helo, trying to draw attention away from himself. None of this reads town to me, at all.



Mentioned this before but it is exactly what he was doing but trying to call someone else out for it.

And he swings a lot. Plenty of contradiction.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 09:09 GMT
#351
On November 26 2012 17:57 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 17:28 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Hey I asked questions "just wondering why the aggressive comments" I do expect answers just because I don't say "this is a question" trust me when he reads that he probably will answer. Theory was implied But yeah I have been rather nonchalant.


Yeah that's a fair point, but if you think Kick's comment was allignment indicative I would've expected you to put some pressure. Instead you kind of just left it out there for others to either go with or ignore.

As far as your Yamato case goes, what you point out is nothing new (I know claim that, you were just clarifying). A lot of it is stuff I've thought about and I think commented on. The problem I have is it feels like one of this cases I convince myself is good but end up being crap. It's just to easy to make. D1 it's very easy for scum not to leave those obvious openings.

This is why I'm intrigued about Aqua's case on Kick. On surface Kick isn't scummy, but scum usually won't be scummy on the first day, at least D1 (I have yet to read the case though).


Yeah, to be honest though and this is probably bad play on my part but my meta is very well there is this... and this! Until I get a solid above 60% read. (unless I find someone to omgus on)

But the meta thing is indicative a little at least (considering day one) and aqua's case while going over a few things already mentioned was well put together.

I think most likely scum are yamato and kick, aqua came out with a good post so... that puts munkey in a worse light comparatively (as far as lurking goes) CC is kinda like kick in away which is interesting.

I don't have much else to say until these guys get back in the thread tbh.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 09:12 GMT
#352
yeah oats while his initial style was very townlike in my opinion has also been quite inconsistent tunnling as well like sonic mentioned however I think his style (and this is only a feel read) is more town like though.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 10:51 GMT
#361
Yeah as scum and town I tend to post a lot but uhh... the old republic went free to play so...
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 12:40 GMT
#364
Kickstarter case looks good tbh. I am a little funny about the helo yamoto thing due to having an insane probably wrong read on one of them. I really want these guys particularly to enter the thread. I can't do much more without it.

Will look into it more before bed. On a side note how much time left before lynch?
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 13:41 GMT
#368
I read someone as blue and I can't get the idea out of my head.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 16:20 GMT
#393
On November 27 2012 00:38 Kickstart wrote:

Aquanim: Despite his case on me I read him as slightly town. Actually the case on me gives me that read because aqau is activiely trying to scum hunt and bringing pressure onto people that weren't being pressured at all before, so this I like as town play and encourage him to continue doing.

Mr. Cheesecake: null read. I soft-defended him because I felt like the cases were bad and had no weight, which I think can be agreed upon by everyone. Unfortunatly most of his posting doesn't allow me to have a town read on him because he hasn't done much in the way of sticking his neck out on anything. But on the other hand he has been forced to defend himself for most of Day 1 so I give him a null read thus far.



In the middle of something but I saw this post.

You soft defended him? You appeared to go on a rampage. Also why is that did you just decide to completely change your meta? Something that happened in my scum qt last game was we defined roles. To me this looks like you said I am going to act like this and kinda stuck to it. Maybe you just want to improve your play but just let me know why such a difference.


Also you were being pressured before aquanim came at you ^^ Admittedly he came at you in a far more logical and organized way.

Also votes are slowly being put on munkey. While there is no inherent problem with this there is also going to be no opposition to this town has no reason to not vote him and with no opposition mafa don't either. Just food for thought... (ie: mafa probably don't mind us voting for munkey) Little early to tell though. and completely wifom.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 16:20 GMT
#394
On November 27 2012 01:16 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
Voting on Munk-E feels like such a cop out. Like admitting I can't find scum with the information given. Munk-E, now is the time to show up.


Ninja'd it is a cop out and one mafia don't mind
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 17:13 GMT
#401
Well I have finished everything. I don't want to vote munkey for listed reasons (when is the lynch btw?) but I have to vote before bed. So far I have to go Yamato77 or Kickstart. For the moment while I think I have to go Yamato while I think about the recent developments with kick (incase I fall alseep {3:11am})

##Vote: Yamato77
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 17:15 GMT
#402
Nvm realized it was on the other page (lynch time)
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 17:24 GMT
#405
Town do NOT blue hunt!!


I do

The fact Kickstarter focused on it isn't a surprise.


Just interesting to note but my notes file has you two in a love story situation. This can be good or bad but you seem to defend each other. (this happens as town and scum)

However it is true what you say about yamato.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 17:26 GMT
#406
Munk is like a 40-60 coin flip either mafia completely ignored him if he was mafia or they didn't bother defending someone who was town of course.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 23:27 GMT
#453
On November 27 2012 07:19 yamato77 wrote:


Jacob, equally, has contributed nothing of real value. If he's off playing a video game like he claims (terrible cop-out), then perhaps you guys need to pressure him into making reads that aren't complete fluff like posting a whole paragraph deciphering if I slept the right amount of time in his opinion. His vote on me seems contrived, as does Munk-E's, because neither one cast serious suspicion on me before placing their vote.


Wrong I had you under serious suspicion for years before that vote. Anyway just woke up and am reading the thread.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 23:34 GMT
#454
On November 27 2012 08:09 Munk-E wrote:

I didn't drop my case, because I never really had one. That post pointed out how at the time, oats posts were weird for a townie. Although may have been inductive of a potential scum alliance, it is much more likely he was just bad. On average, everyone has a 2/9 chance of being mafia, but by his posts,,i would put him at 1/3



You seem to be giving yourself plenty outs, if he flips town you can say (Oh he was only 1/3 guys totally not my fault)
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 23:38 GMT
#456
hmm I have to admit my main reason for not voting for munkey was because there seemed to be nobody fighting against it. But now that he is active again when it is becoming later in the day it seems scum behaviour (two types of scum the type that chime in late and the type that miss the lynch[but are actually there watching it])
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 26 2012 23:39 GMT
#457
Oh great now you have a semi reason for it. There is equal chance of this being a lie or not a lie. :/
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