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On November 12 2012 12:10 Keirathi wrote: Very well, as long as you realize the kind of time investment that the game requires, you may join. What a way to kickstart his career. | ||
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## Vote Hapahauli He had much better ways to start discussion if he wanted to pick a name basically at random. so i say he is probably full of shit. You could have done a random gambit where we could have had some discussion built around it. You didn't Now lets discuss. | ||
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didnt see your post but your welcome to talk about it 2. | ||
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On November 13 2012 09:43 debears wrote: But he just said he doesn't want it and that he's fine with me taking the mantle, despite his vast amount of experience in rockband he said he was going to post less before the game started. He failed | ||
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On November 13 2012 09:48 Clarity_nl wrote: There's no reason to believe or disbelieve Zbo. All this tells us is that there's no point in investigating him, and if there is a counter claim he'll lean scummy. Really you don't lean one way or the other you serious? | ||
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On November 13 2012 09:52 Hapahauli wrote: Woah woah hold-up. I'm not liking how you're trusting this claim right away. Claiming miller is a pretty much a riskless play here. We don't know how many millers are in the setup, and as far as I'm concerned, the claim is null until Z-Bo proves otherwise. its what i think so whatever. Zbos scum is gone put himself out there like that i dont think so. | ||
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On November 13 2012 09:59 Hapahauli wrote: Oh noes! Well fortunately I'm not scum. + Show Spoiler + I think.+ Show Spoiler + *Bowzer laugh*+ Show Spoiler + jk I'm town It's not "so whatever" - I'm pretty skeptical how you're so willing to think Z-Bo is town off what looks to me like a completely null action. well if you think im scum dont be a fucking pussy and vote for me. I said what i thought on the subject. | ||
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He could be scum he could be vt. I'm inclined looking at the comment that he was just writing what he thought and that it was probably true. He just had a slip of the tongue so i'm actually inclined to think it was actually the truth. It didn't look like to me as a scum making a post in order to put a claim together. Boom i got two town reads already which you gonna do mafia?????????? | ||
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I liked his thinking in this post On November 13 2012 10:25 Hapahauli wrote: No I don't find it weird. I think it's just a pointless comment that can be made by either alignment. Again, see Mr. Cheesecake's "odd" VT claim time in the Newbie game. Him trusting Z-Bo's claim so up-front is a bit strange, but again, I don't know if it's just bad logic or scum knowing who's who. I haven't seen anything alignment indicative from him yet. For now... | ||
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zbps broski read the thread dog. | ||
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On November 13 2012 10:25 Blazinghand wrote: lol got anything useful to say? | ||
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On November 13 2012 10:33 iamperfection wrote: guys a town zbos could lie if he was blue He could be scum he could be vt. I'm inclined looking at the comment that he was just writing what he thought and that it was probably true. He just had a slip of the tongue so i'm actually inclined to think it was actually the truth. It didn't look like to me as a scum making a post in order to put a claim together. Boom i got two town reads already which you gonna do mafia?????????? oh lol my bad thats was supposed to strongandbig in that comment. | ||
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On November 13 2012 10:55 strongandbig wrote: shhh no one tell him its ruined if you tell him what it is no come on really i googled it and didnt see anything | ||
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On November 13 2012 10:55 Hapahauli wrote: Oh goddamnit I got sniped by the "kenpachi rule" apparently, but my post still stands since he had his vote on me at the time of the post I reference. i want to be included god damn it tell me what you know. | ||
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## Vote Blazinghand Especially since he made it obvious that he was here with his "lol" | ||
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On November 13 2012 11:38 marvellosity wrote: I agree wholeheartedly, in Rock Band he came out all guns blazing (no pun intended) whereas the opposite is true here. I expect great things from him when he comes back to the thread, that's for sure. dont lie you intended that pun. | ||
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On November 13 2012 15:38 Blazinghand wrote: Honestly I think it's bad to tie yourself down with ideas like that. If someone's playing scummy, they're playing scummy. My scum play isn't amazing, but due to my extreme sex appeal and enormous intelligence and penis, I can assure you that it's improved a great deal. Mostly it's due to my large penis-- it is quite a monstrosity. It works as a pad, even. Back on topic, don't feel like you can't vote or push people because of possible contributions. This kind of play is lazy and puts preconceived notions of what certain players are worth ahead of behavioral analysis. Someone voting for me because they legitimately think I'm scum and they have the cojones to do it is infinitely more helpful to town than someone not voting me because I'm a sexy baller. That being said, iamperfection's vote is pretty typical iamperfection throwing his vote around trying to pressure people but not doing it effectively. He needs to realize that you should vote people when you want to lynch them, or else you won't be taken seriously. LOL dont you dare talk down to me you little punk. You criticize me when YOU were the one being all terrible with your first couple of posts. Being all herp derp i don't have to contribute even though interesting things were happening at the time. Give me a break But that being said ## Unvote Your case on zbos reminds me more of your play from rockband more then the way you were being early on. Lokking at what zbos has posted especially this crap which bh pointed out On November 13 2012 10:04 Z-BosoN wrote: Loving the activity so far. What I'm not loving is the excess of activity coming from debears. He's being very chit-chatty this game and here's what I find very interesting. He has commented on every single little thing on this game and is posting a ton (which by itself is anti-town, as it clogs up the thread and makes it difficult to read), but when dealing with the only significant thing that has yet happened in this thread, he simply shrugs it off as: For someone who is analytical enough to attempt to judge marv's early game reactions, he's sure not being analytical about my claim. This smells scummy to me. ##vote debears If you look closely debears never said anything about being able to tell if marv is town or not from an anyltical standpoint he made it pretty clear that it was not the case and that he had said he was simply going to vote for him no matter what. Zbos totally misrepresents what is being said here and if he has the courage to throw a vote out for it you would have thought he would have read clearly what he was in fact voting for. On November 13 2012 11:05 Z-BosoN wrote: @Hapa: To be honest, I've had an opposite reaction from iamp's trusting of me. I think scum would think twice before openly accepting any townie claim. In his last scum game, iirc, he was much pickier on his town reads. May be wrong here. @debears Great, grats. So you suffer an onslaught of fluff accusations day one, and yet you still plague the thread with fluff? Do you find nothing wrong with that? @marv So you say that you fit best the description of actively lurking, and pretty much continue to do that? Tell me more. This post here is also another pile of crap and its the iamperfection rule of whoever defends me is probably scum. If he cared at all to check in gsl III where i was scum which he played in lollololol i thrw around 2 strong town reads early on he should know this and the fact that he isnt willing to do any legwork in order to find out is more evidence not in his favor. This post is also extremly wishy washy on everything he said. I know i said early on that i thought the miller claim was more of a town tell but well i think zbos actions speak louder. so ## Vote zboson | ||
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On November 14 2012 00:07 debears wrote: @Clarity I would like to see more scum hunter extraordinaire out of Marv, but nothing right now is screaming scum to me from him. And, he's a strong town player. If he does something that is so scummy that it blinds me I'll go after him @Marv Would you say that SandB is an easy target for mafia? Although the vt claim was weird, having what, 4 people vote him so early just doesn't make me comfortable. Considering we do have over 24 hours left, I'm sure SandB, if he is town, will come up with something good. Why do people think claiming vt was wierd i think if you read the actual post it seemed like to me he was just having a conversation and it slipped. It does not look like an orchestrated post by a scum if you ask me. | ||
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On November 14 2012 00:17 marvellosity wrote: Hopeless, I think you're making too much of that. The bit you bold says "was" - past tense, that was his stance previously (when he'd missed my Crossfire post). Like debears said just now there's not a lot to say about Crossfire otherwise, you can't really have a stance on someone who hasn't posted yet. The whole issue is overblown and should be dropped. If only because it's a big distraction to debears, who has to keep talking about it, and it's not helping anyone I second this | ||
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On November 14 2012 00:42 Blazinghand wrote: lil iamperfection im gonna talk down @ u till u get on my level cause else how u gonna hear me from down there lol you son of a bitch <3 | ||
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On November 14 2012 00:54 marvellosity wrote: what's the deal with you posting like scum? I would say he was early on but i would say he has looked more town since then you disagree? | ||
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On November 14 2012 00:57 Blazinghand wrote: Marv doesnt unseratand ghe ZB case or they are scum udddies dont worry rhough he is scrub ...phone i hope | ||
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On November 14 2012 01:00 marvellosity wrote: Rock Band or Whose Line are recent town games of his. do you know any of his scum games? the search function isn't helping me find all his games. | ||
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On November 14 2012 01:35 Blazinghand wrote: iamp bad but not scum this is just how he plays your an idiot you just said i was voting well. | ||
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On November 14 2012 01:51 marvellosity wrote: Guys, guys!!! I think I may have an awesome quiz for you a little later in the evening. It may even be as good as my Palmar quiz in Rock Band. the guess the alignment game? I like that game | ||
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On November 14 2012 02:54 Hapahauli wrote: The scum motive is in completely abandoning/forgetting a town read for shitty reasons when it's convenient for you to do so (BH's case on Z-Boson). Sure it would be smarter for a potential scum-iamperfection to stick to his story. But he didn't do that, and the alternative here is also scummy in it's own right, regardless of the attention he brought to himself. Rofl I clearly didn't forget it. | ||
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On November 13 2012 10:45 iamperfection wrote: oh lol my bad thats was supposed to strongandbig in that comment. just for clarity sake | ||
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On November 14 2012 03:49 strongandbig wrote: iamperfection is lazy as fuck, he's like mattchew in being both terrible and lazy but at the moment hapa's case is super unpersuasive to me also fuck you *Looks at your play in gsl II as town *Looks at mattchews play in liquid city as town *Looks at iamperfections play in liquid city as town yeah im the lazy one out of those three stfu. | ||
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On November 14 2012 05:06 strongandbig wrote: gsl 2 doesnt count thats the one where i got mislynched for not having enough time to play while i was on vacation with my family i mean yeah i was lazy there but whatever also i mean like "intellectually lazy", as in "not bothering to explain yourself very much." when haven't i explained myself. I have people just dont like the explanations. | ||
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On November 14 2012 05:14 Z-BosoN wrote: What debears mentions is his radical switch from >>Hunting BH<< to >>Agreeing with BH<<. Except that this post I quoted is immediately after his vote on me. Here, he still shows interest in finding out if BH is scum, someone he had just agreed with. That being said, he is being incredibly flip-floppy, which I'm finding extremely weird. I don't think this is enough to peg him as scum though, I can imagine him as town being suspicious of everyone. I find BH's play to be much, much more appaling. I have only played one game with him, so I'm not super aware of his meta, but it is totally different than his Liquid City one. Here he has made one major case, a weak one at that, and established an unusally high amount of certainty on it, calling it "a masterpiece". Your absolutely right i want to figure this shit out and right now i like other am intrested in what bh has to say when he comes back. I disagree with your premis though i think it actually shows the opposite then what your thinking since im open to different possibilities i wants to find the scum thats my one and only goal. that said ## Unvote Your contributing a lot and are making it clear what your thinking so i dont want to lynch you right now. I will wait for the time being on bh i thought his vote on me was super bad and ill give him the chance to explain himself before i make up my mind. | ||
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On November 14 2012 05:16 Blazinghand wrote: im not sure ive called it a masterpiece but yeah its good its a good case and i supported your case with my own contribution but then you vote me on the drop of dime after hapa comes in? | ||
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On November 14 2012 05:23 Blazinghand wrote: just cuz u agree with me doesnt mean ur town dude why dont you wait until you get home and put some proper thoughts out there instead of this crap. Tell me what you really think is hapas case on me or do you change your mind give me the why or dont say anything at all. | ||
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On November 14 2012 05:31 Clarity_nl wrote: Anyone willing to give their read on DarthPunk while everyone anxiously awaits Blazinghand's defense and case? not much to say i dont really like that he made a big deal just becasue s&b said wifomwifomwifom i dont think thats a proper way to go about things. He then says it should be super obvious why he is voting him but in my view it really isnt. I dont have a strong feeling on him but i would lean scummy side more than town. He has a 3 page filter but not a whole lot to go off of. | ||
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On November 14 2012 05:48 Clarity_nl wrote: Do you guys have some sort of meta read that I do not? The description "has a 3 page filter but nothing that I can make a read off of" doesn't seem very townie to me. in terms of me or him? | ||
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On November 14 2012 05:50 Clarity_nl wrote: Still on Darth. Stay on target! Well from what i remember he is extremely active regardless of his alignment so i dont know what to make of his more backseat approach in this game. But i think he has another game going on so maybe his attention is there. I dont really know | ||
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On November 14 2012 05:51 Hopeless1der wrote: Darth is still playing in Acme. Poor play may be related to that. I'm null on him. you ninja | ||
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On November 14 2012 06:00 Blazinghand wrote: spoken like a guy who doesn't know how to crack jokes way easier to crack jokes than to contribute, dont see why it's odd or you could do what your doing right now ## Vote Blazinghand I want want your thinking of me and zbos now in a proper fashion or in my view your just claiming scum Don't come back until you do | ||
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On November 14 2012 06:07 Blazinghand wrote: Well, I'm home now so I'll write a post with some proper thoughts. And I see no reason to leave the thread just because you've told me to. good do it | ||
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On November 14 2012 07:44 Blazinghand wrote: Well, I was hoping it wouldn't come to this, but if wishes were wings, etc. Man, there's few things I hate like arguing about my own meta, but several people have talked about it, at least in passing, so I'm dispelling the meta myth right now. I would have liked someone else to do it, but you all are too lazy to actually back up your meta statements so I have to do it myself. It'd be really nice if one of you could verify it for yourself because a dude talking about his own meta doesn't usually go well. Here are my scum games. There might be one or two I'm missing, but these are the ones I remember: Cop Idiot Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328827&user=133498 Bureaucracy Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=133498 Resistance II: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=311315&user=133498 Emergency Mini Mafia (3rd party): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=311315&user=133498 If you take a look at all these games, even Emergency Mini Mafia, what people are attributing to my "bad scum meta" this game are not present at all. As scum I try to play like town-- posting big cases and interacting with people a lot. Where I fail is that as scum, I'm typically overly diplomatic and temperamentally less aggressive. This game is nothing like any of my scum games. Now let's look at the one time I've been mislynched, in Storm Mafia: Storm Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313426&user=133498 Yeah it's rather old but the point is I don't always play perfectly. Sometimes, yes, I'm making smaller posts and my cases aren't perfect. I've been mislynched for playing to my "scum meta" when in fact I just sometimes play differently as town. I'm not making the same mistake I made in Storm Mafia-- not defending myself zealously and claiming at the appropriate time. I'm the Jailkeeper. My crumb is in the post where I talk about my large penis and how it could work as a "pad" (link)-- for pad-lock, lock, locked up, jail, jailkeeper. Admittedly, role crumbs aren't much supporting evidence, but lynching a claimed blue D1 is amazingly bad play. It's possible there's no scum roleblocker which means my power can still be of use to us. You all have plenty of time to unvote me and vote Z-B before the day ends. you may never criticize me ever again. and im not sure if i believe this claim of yours there seems to me no reason for it you had plenty of time to work your way out of it your town. Thanks for pointing out we had plenty of time to not vote for you. idiot. ## Unovte | ||
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On November 14 2012 07:26 Hapahauli wrote: His rationale and motive make sense to me from a scum perspective - I've already mentioned that. Making a 180 when spurred by another case is scummy and convenient. I realize you disagree, but I think you're wrong. And to draw comparisons to the read on Kei you mentioned in GSL III - I find imaperfection's actions alone much more scummy than Kei's actions in GSL III. Kei has a history of reluctant D1 play. Iamperfection doesn't have a history of these things in his town play to my knowledge. Hapa tunnels me almost always regardless of mine or his alignment i dont get why he seems to think ive committed some sort of crime but whatever he can continue to waste time on me or go for something more legitimate. Either way his tunneling of me doesn't tell me anything about his alignment for the time being. However hapa eventually opens up in his decision making process if he is town. Hapa if your scum just continue to waste my time because it will become so clear that your scum. I did what i did you didnt like it tough for you. Either go cry in corner about it if your scum or find some actual scum. | ||
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On November 14 2012 08:06 Clarity_nl wrote: Okay so, best move on and wait a bit to see if there's a counter claim? Were you around all this time iamp, or did you just return? i was feeding the homeless + Show Spoiler + nah i was at the gym | ||
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On November 14 2012 08:17 Hapahauli wrote: @ iamp Can you explain your thought process on Z-Bo to me because I just can't understand it. Why were you so initially convinced he was town based on his claim? Is the case you posted on him the only things you find scummy about him? I can't connect the dots. alright my thinking early on when i first saw it was i thought it would be pretty ballsy to do as scum since i thought a scum would have to worry about another miller claiming and it kind of put himself out there. I already outlined later when i voted for him that his actions made me think that he was scum at that time. On November 14 2012 00:04 iamperfection wrote: LOL dont you dare talk down to me you little punk. You criticize me when YOU were the one being all terrible with your first couple of posts. Being all herp derp i don't have to contribute even though interesting things were happening at the time. Give me a break But that being said ## Unvote Your case on zbos reminds me more of your play from rockband more then the way you were being early on. Lokking at what zbos has posted especially this crap which bh pointed out If you look closely debears never said anything about being able to tell if marv is town or not from an anyltical standpoint he made it pretty clear that it was not the case and that he had said he was simply going to vote for him no matter what. Zbos totally misrepresents what is being said here and if he has the courage to throw a vote out for it you would have thought he would have read clearly what he was in fact voting for. This post here is also another pile of crap and its the iamperfection rule of whoever defends me is probably scum. If he cared at all to check in gsl III where i was scum which he played in lollololol i thrw around 2 strong town reads early on he should know this and the fact that he isnt willing to do any legwork in order to find out is more evidence not in his favor. This post is also extremly wishy washy on everything he said. I know i said early on that i thought the miller claim was more of a town tell but well i think zbos actions speak louder. so ## Vote zboson Since then his case on bh, which i completely disagree bh with, it wasnt omgus and his further pushing of that case when he found it to be unsatisfactory response make me know think he more than ever he is likely to be town. he did that here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440¤tpage=33#643 Zbos is being open in his thought process and he is actively pushing his read i find that to be a town attribute and makes me think even more with his prodding of bh that he is likely to be town. | ||
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On November 14 2012 08:19 Blazinghand wrote: I did have to claim. But yeah let's leave that for post game. I currently have two scumreads ZB and Iamp. If ZB isnt geting lynnjed thats understandable but iamp is a good target for todays lynch probably lurking wise xfire is getting modkilled/replaced probably so thats good Im chiefly concerned about thrawn because he wont get modkilled and is lurking will make sure to write good cases today i said it before make something proper if you think I'm scum instead of saying i'm a good lynch. | ||
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On November 14 2012 08:31 Blazinghand wrote: yeah i dunno what to think now gotta read up and rethink .......what changed??????????????????????? | ||
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On November 14 2012 10:13 Hapahauli wrote: Looking at debears, there's not much to say other than there's not much substance in his 4-page filter. Lots of short, 1/2 line posts with banter. He jumps on Hopeless really quickly, who's one of the easier targets in the game. He's then pretty quick to jump on iamperfection, and has been pushing that "read" since. As previously stated, his "vote post" looks like an overkill-case. But the thing that really sticks out to me is that he's been tunneling iamperfection for the last few hours yet still has his vote on Hopeless. He's using a lot of strong language against iamperfection (much stronger than against hopeless), and from his filter it looks like iamperfection is his top scumread. At this point he's much more content to push the read on iamperfection than his one on Hopeless, and I see no townie reason why his vote isn't where his mouth is. ##Unvote ##Vote debears i might be able to get behind this but i will wait for him to respond. Looking at it your absolutely right because i had to double check i could have sworn his vote was on me but it in fact isn't. He did use strong language but didnt put the vote out there and was curios to see what others thought (Testing the waters maybe?) however i will wait for him to respond. | ||
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stupid town i would say on him. Also where not gonna lynch bh sorry kickstart i have come around with no counter there is absolutely no reason to lynch at this time. + Show Spoiler + although it would quite enjoyable to lynch to confirm his teribad play this game but alas we have to lynch scum dont we. and this is me talking down to you bh. | ||
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On November 14 2012 13:10 debears wrote: ugh catching up so far behind right now....let me know up front if you need questions and i'll get to them once i catch up well i think the obvious question is whats the deal with not having a 10 page filter by now? oh also your tunneling on me looks bad now because almost everyone thinks im town now. Also you didn't vote me despite it looking like i was your top scumread. so you could start with that. | ||
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Debars i have explained exactly everything i thought about zbos in this post On November 14 2012 08:26 iamperfection wrote: alright my thinking early on when i first saw it was i thought it would be pretty ballsy to do as scum since i thought a scum would have to worry about another miller claiming and it kind of put himself out there. I already outlined later when i voted for him that his actions made me think that he was scum at that time. Since then his case on bh, which i completely disagree bh with, it wasnt omgus and his further pushing of that case when he found it to be unsatisfactory response make me know think he more than ever he is likely to be town. he did that here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440¤tpage=33#643 Zbos is being open in his thought process and he is actively pushing his read i find that to be a town attribute and makes me think even more with his prodding of bh that he is likely to be town. If thats not good enough too bad. As to your other point on guilty conscience or whatever i do in fact do think about how my posts look to the town and i do this regardless of alignment i was well aware that i said i had town view of zboson early on. I think its a mute point. As to you hopeless i dont know what your talking about not explaining myself in liquid city i was doing a fine job untill i went full retard untill the last day so if you want to point to something specific ill gladly answer but don't waste my time in saying things that are false. | ||
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I would be more understanding of DP if he had 3 or 4 games but i think he is a big enough boy to handle to 2 games and the best he can do is cast some idle suspicion with out any reasons? Ya he can go. ##Vote Darthpunk | ||
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On November 14 2012 22:54 marvellosity wrote: iamp, who do you wanna lynch buddy well that should clear things up | ||
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On November 14 2012 23:06 strongandbig wrote: that sir is what's called "pushing your luck" BH posted this after reading exactly the same explanation from DP that I read, and exactly the same comments on DP's meta from marv as I read, and doing exactly the same amount of work looking into DP's actual scum/town meta as I did (none) - and yet he comes up with a vote? Without at all addressing the points from Marv and from himself about DP's meta? And without addressing the other game in progress issue - which isn't an "unverifiable irl excuse," we can go look at the thread - and yet he comes up with a vote? guys what we have out of BH is not just a scummy and needless claim - we have a scummy and needless claim from a player who isn't playing up to his usual town standard in several ways - bad cases - trolling/fluff while taking the easy opportunity to gain points by attacking other people for fluff and most importantly - the huge mismatch in thread presence, thread control, and town organization between BH's last town game (whose line) and this game And then we have BH psychology: he just saw me do well - not win, except for self-declaring victory, but do much better than I should have given how the game started out - he saw me do well by fakeclaiming blue and then really pushing that fakeclaim hard. He also just had what I assume must be a trollgasm from evoking ridiculous reactions from Keirathi in that same game. Now he's claimed blue for no good reason, and it's a blue role that he can "verify" easily by withholding KP, or that he can make unverifiable by claiming to be roleblocked. There's no way a town BH decides "there are 3 or 4 votes on me, like 30 hours before the lynch - time to claim!" I just don't believe that thought process is real. ##vote: blazinghand do you honestly think you can manage to make this happen. He claimed jk with a breadcrumb on day 1 no counter claim his claim timing was wierd from a scum perspective. Yes he hasent played well but its not gonna happen dude, I would take great enjoyment in lynching him but i have come to the conclusion that his claim likely means he is town. | ||
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On November 14 2012 23:11 debears wrote: No idiot is justified. I am wayyyy wrong on that. Thankyou for pointing that out. Eh iamp I rescind my arguments on you good for you dear | ||
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On November 14 2012 23:15 debears wrote: how does it feel ^^ Iamp and marv What do you feel about the DP wagon going on? Honestly, I feel that his play is a null tell at this point. I'd be willing to give him a second day to shape up and show some usefulness. Meanwhile, Hopeless has acted like he is contributing and really hasn't done anything wheres my vote? I would expect some down turn in activity from dp with two games going but not this much also he knows better than casting suspicion without giving reasons. I feel pretty good on a flip of him. | ||
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i kind of like thrawn with his post here On November 13 2012 15:29 thrawn2112 wrote: strongandbig The vt claim stuff... eh i didn't really get a read either way on that. I interpreted that claim post as more of a joke than a hidden roleclaim. I'm suspicious of how he voted with not much of an explanation.... but then reading how fast and easily a strongandbig bandwagon immediately formed makes me even more suspicious of the bandwagon. We are like 4 hours in or something and there is already a bandwagon and 4 votes for a player. I've never seen anyone other than kushm4sta attract that many votes that early and actually flip red. Posts like this one..... .... are what make me think he's not scum. He's playing fast and loose and that'd be pretty risky. It was my scum strategy in irc mafia but I don't think it would work it forum mafia. I'm most concerned about darthpunk atm. First he seems a lot less "in your face" than town dp does, and I don't like his snb vote. Ironically, he seemd to vote for snb for making a shitty vote, but imo dp's vote was even worse. He later unvotes... and doesn't give a reason why... and then he votes again for snb. He actually votes for that trolly post I referenced earlier.. the whole situation leaves me with the feeling that snb is town and dp is scum and taking the easy way out by voting based on snb's blatantly trolly and silly posts. DP has this to say about snb: That's the same feeling that I'm getting, except in the other direction so it worries me that DP is interpreting it how he is. Darthpunk, why did you unvote snb? I'm also concerned about kickstart. I don't like how he jumped in the thread without commenting on anything. Looks like this is his first game though so I'm not gonna judge him too early. Could be either scum not having an opinion or first time player not having an opinion. His other post didn't add much either. Kickstart... we've already got 7 people throwing down votes, there is plenty to talk about. Specifically, I want to hear your opinions on anything snb related. ##fos dp He is open to the possibilities but he gives us a read on what he thought of the s&b situation and his reasoning is simmilar to how i viewed S&B that people were making a big deal with not much there and that he didnt think it was some hidden contrived way of S&B claiming vt. | ||
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On November 14 2012 23:54 Clarity_nl wrote: I'll be back for a bit in 30-40 minutes but in an hour or two I'll be gone until 9 pm my time (6 hours before lynch). I would like some more thoughts on this please: iamp I urge you to look elsewhere than BH for the time being, and revisit this tomorrow. Lynching him today would simply be bad. i think you mean S&B | ||
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On November 15 2012 01:01 DarthPunk wrote: SO it seems as if he case against me boils down to meta almost completely and yet my play this game conforms to neither my town nor my scum meta. Let me tell you what I was doing today. I know people hate this kind of shit. But honestly FU all. I am house sitting for my sister whilst she goes to Vietnam and Thailand for a month. She leaves tomorrow. So I had to pick up the keys and go over the care of her cats and dog. Then my friend who I haven't seen for three years was here so I grabbed lunch with him. I had 4 hours in which I had time to not only post in two games, but do various chores before my friend and several others went out for dinner and drinks. I stayed out till now when it is almost 3am and then I get back completely wasted to post in this damn mafia thread with a bunch of idiots who want to mislynch me. Yes you are idiots. The case is a meta case in which I am deviating from both my scum and my town meta. If I didn't care about being correct I could shit out some cases right now and most likely not get lynched. I can make fucking excuses because they are true and I didn;t have the time to day to do the amount of reading I like to do in both games. So I prioritised the other game. Holy Shit. you know I need to read 4 end game filters in that game right?? And this game is progressing at a million miles an hour. Literally I take 5 minutes to write my defence posts but it would take me hours to read enough to be comfortable pushing a lynch. Because I give a fuck about being right in my reads. Holy shit. that is a town tell if I ever saw one. I am drunk as fuck writing this post at 3 am when I should rightly be in bed because the best thing I can contribute right now.] is to try and prevent my mislynch. Honestly. The meta case against me is complete bullshit because it is a shift of meta for both alignments. Give me one more day to prove my self and to let me shape up. If I don;t you can lynch me. Holy shit this is some bullshit. Dont be cry baby about it prove your town by scum hunting. no one really gives a shit about your irl stuff. You are not scumhunting either do so or die at this point. I want to win this game and if your town your not helping me win | ||
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I know darthpunk is capable of so much more until he gives me something more than his gut or his whining my vote will not change. I welcome him to do so because if he is town i want him in the game. as for hopeless i dont feel very strong about him one way or another he has been lurking and i dont think what you have there marv is a super solid aha found scum moment but i could get behind it if dp comes back with something good and hopeless continues to lurk i can get behind it. | ||
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On November 14 2012 23:10 debears wrote: ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING??? THERE ARE NO COUNTERCLAIMS FROM A JK/RB, AND YOU WANT TO LYNCH A JK CLAIM DAY 1??? debars did comment on it with caps lock no less | ||
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On November 15 2012 02:09 marvellosity wrote: I really think DP is a bad lynch. Hopeless or debears. DP does not play uselessly as scum either. DP was not useless as town either in gsl III | ||
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On November 15 2012 02:12 marvellosity wrote: you're missing the fucking point. DP does not play uselessly AS EITHER ALIGNMENT. SO THAT MAKES HIM FUCKING TOWN??!!!?!?! | ||
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On November 15 2012 02:14 marvellosity wrote: it makes him neither, for fuck's sake. If he is not useless as either A or B, then when he IS useless you can't say that he's necessarily A or B. Then i will hold him to coming back with something proper then. | ||
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On November 15 2012 05:37 Clarity_nl wrote: Just got back and caught up. A lot happened. Iamp claimed he's staying on Darth, how about you thrawn? Because if you plan on moving I'll have to make a decision between debears and.... Hopeless? I don't like debears' reaction to accusations at all, very emotional with not much weight or facts behind it. When he got accused of being scum D1 in XXX he addressed the points and moved on to scumhunt. That said I don't think that makes him scum and the cases against him didn't convince me. So hopeless. Well there definitely is nothing townie about him, I believe he's the better lynch candidate. I still want my Darth lynch though, so Thrawn, whadya say? I said the opposite regarding dp ill be back in a few more hours | ||
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hapa before i put a ton of effort looking through you more closely what do you make of both me and bh weighing in positively on suspicions of you? You have not had as much thread presence that you usually have in my view and you said before that debars voting you was him claiming scum which i dont really buy and i thought it was really un hapa like for day 1? | ||
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But at least he is doing what you should if your town and under large pressure near lynch time. | ||
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On November 15 2012 07:48 Hapahauli wrote: Is DP still your top scumread? What makes him scummier than debears at this point? It seems you largely agree with me on him but find DP scummier instead. dp still hasn't done anything. my vote will stay there until he does. I know he is capable of contributing. If he dosent he is scum in my book | ||
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On November 15 2012 08:04 marvellosity wrote: ##unvote I wanna lynch someone else. Case incoming once I get the pieces all together. | ||
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On November 15 2012 08:05 Clarity_nl wrote: Wow, 3 hours from deadline? thats a really long time. | ||
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On November 15 2012 08:07 Clarity_nl wrote: Ehhhh, people always think that. Then something unexpected happens and people go apeshit. Maybe that's just my impression because of newbie games though. My last game as scum I could easily hide in last minute chaos. you do realize that me marv and hapa are in this game right shenanigans are almost guaranteed. Even if hapa drops rhetoric in his coaching that its bad he in fact loves it. | ||
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On November 15 2012 08:15 debears wrote: Hapa you're so full of it. I WAS SUSPICIOUS OF HOPELESS FROM THE BEGINNING. HOLY SHIT.I wasn't under serious suspicion. Now, you're lying HE WAS IN NO WAY THE "EASY LYNCH" WHEN I FIRST HAD SUSPICIONS OF HIM. And oh look. I NEVER VOTED YOU HAPA CUZ YOU AREN'T GETTING LYNCHED TODAY. Now, you're making stuff up More lies do what hopeless did on the last page plz. | ||
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On November 15 2012 08:18 debears wrote: Hey S&B When were those posts? Early D1 if I recall What have you posted that's so great? You trolled in the beginning. Now you're being hypocritical in your vote Do what i said or feel my wrath. | ||
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On November 15 2012 08:18 marvellosity wrote: debears is right, by the way. Some of Hapa's pushing on him is fucking nonsense. was that a tease? | ||
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On November 15 2012 08:28 Hapahauli wrote: Ok this bit is fair, however: This is complete bullshit. This coming from the guy who accused me of going after "easy" targets in iamperfection and you. The voting is a big deal because I still don't see how the hell you arrived at Hopeless being your top scumread. Hell you started all this "OMG OMG HOPELESS SCUM" thing the second I called you out for not pushing him and pushing iamperfection instead. Maybe at some point you'll actually respond to this instead of spouting your "bad assumption" nonsense about your "suspicion" on Hopeless: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440¤tpage=47#937 Hell you're entire read on me is OMGUS and that I'm somehow not following my principles. This is retarded and I can't imagine you'd ever come up with this shit as town. By all means show me how I'm not - the "overkill" read I've mentioned in some of my other town games as well. im not an easy lynch as town by the way its never happened. | ||
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On November 15 2012 08:34 Hapahauli wrote: Because it's completely illogical and in pure OMGUS. He started it the SECOND his lynch started gaining traction. Way too convenient. Well usually your pretty good at putting yourself in other peoples shoes hapa. If i was in his shoes and town and someone that coached me said i was scum i would be pretty suspicious of him. | ||
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On November 15 2012 09:50 Hapahauli wrote: http://postimage.org/image/9ilt0jqpt/ Hapa = Melvin Z-Bo = Paulo The above is a small snip of a skype convo we had a few weeks back. I obviously don't want to screenshot the whole thing (it goes on a while), but this should get the gist of it - Z-Bo really wanted to play a less-active style of play and was running it by me (I advised against it, but he was unconvinced throughout). This makes me think that this could be town Z-Bo. I know what Ver's guide says about the random 1-liners and what not but I really just disagree with it in this specific case. I think it's just a product of him wanting to post less. He could be scum, but at the end of the day, debears is much scummier to me. that all from the skype conversation? He doesn't really say much about changing his style fundamentally there just that he is going to post less and he failed to do so. | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:00 debears wrote: @DP This has already been explained by Clarity. After rereading, you should see what he means. Also, DP I find it odd how you say all day that you don't want to push a read, but now you do. From what I thought, I believed you said that you would come in n1/d2 to post more. Yet, you are doing it here an hour before lynch. Why? you didnt just fucking say that did you if someone wants to contribute let him fucking contribute. | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:03 Hapahauli wrote: Oh also, it doesn't really look like some "fundamental" change to me. He's just posting less, and his individual posts are longer. When you do that, the "fundamental" changes that marv points out (i.e. lack of jokes) are a pretty natural outcome. Like I can see him being scum here, but based on our conversations, I think he can do this as town. Well from my own play i find it very difficult to change stylistically i was able to keep it up for a while in gsl III but really the wheels fell off pretty quickly when im expected to not give a fuck about suspicion on me and to be funny all the time. | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:06 Crossfire99 wrote: Yeah, so I just started to write the below post at school when the internet crapped out on me + Show Spoiler + and I could no longer to connect to team liquid. I just got home, so I am posting this now. I don't know if the mafia way requires more assumptions. Even if it does and "seems" like the least likely option it might not be. I'll give you two examples from my two recent games. In Aperature 2, the godfather was lynched day 1 with 4 votes with me being the hammer. It was plurality lynch with 13 players. There was assumed to be a 3 man scum team (which there was btw, even if there was only a 2 man scum team, my point still holds). I wasn't scum (I was 3rd party) and I assumed that there was no way that the other 3 guys were scum. It made no sense to me because all they had to do was switch off onto someone else with 2 votes before I voted (I voted very late day 1 IIRC), and then that guy was going to be lynched. It turns out there was a scum bussing the godfather day 1 because of extenuating irl circumstances for the godfather. In my last game, WLIIA, strong claimed blue night 1 as scum and we all believed him because his name claim matched with the other blues in the game. I even made a post attacking the two remaining "non confirmed" townies in the game because one of them had to be scum. Even though they both played really townie and I said so in my cases on them, it still was the "most likely" solution. It turns out it wasn't the case and I eventually began to doubt strong's claim, which was the right thing to do. Both of those examples show that just because something seems "more likely" doesn't mean it is so. We don't know what is going on in the mafia qt, so we just have to look for scummy behavior. We have found scummy behavior in blazing. Strong went over this in the post listed below. + Show Spoiler + On November 14 2012 23:06 strongandbig wrote: that sir is what's called "pushing your luck" BH posted this after reading exactly the same explanation from DP that I read, and exactly the same comments on DP's meta from marv as I read, and doing exactly the same amount of work looking into DP's actual scum/town meta as I did (none) - and yet he comes up with a vote? Without at all addressing the points from Marv and from himself about DP's meta? And without addressing the other game in progress issue - which isn't an "unverifiable irl excuse," we can go look at the thread - and yet he comes up with a vote? guys what we have out of BH is not just a scummy and needless claim - we have a scummy and needless claim from a player who isn't playing up to his usual town standard in several ways - bad cases - trolling/fluff while taking the easy opportunity to gain points by attacking other people for fluff and most importantly - the huge mismatch in thread presence, thread control, and town organization between BH's last town game (whose line) and this game And then we have BH psychology: he just saw me do well - not win, except for self-declaring victory, but do much better than I should have given how the game started out - he saw me do well by fakeclaiming blue and then really pushing that fakeclaim hard. He also just had what I assume must be a trollgasm from evoking ridiculous reactions from Keirathi in that same game. Now he's claimed blue for no good reason, and it's a blue role that he can "verify" easily by withholding KP, or that he can make unverifiable by claiming to be roleblocked. There's no way a town BH decides "there are 3 or 4 votes on me, like 30 hours before the lynch - time to claim!" I just don't believe that thought process is real. ##vote: blazinghand This post on blazing is making me change my mind about strong. I like his reasoning and I now see him as more townie than scummy. He did post a lot of unnecessary fluff and one liners, but I did that in my last game, WLIIA, and I was town. ##Vote Blazinghand its not happening bro. | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:08 marvellosity wrote: ##unvote ##vote: crossfire99 you really think after that shit he is scum. He seems pretty clueless to me. | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:10 Crossfire99 wrote: What do you want me to do about my internet? I can't help it. That is what I was working on when my internet crapped out, so I'm posting it now. stop it posts reads on other players right now ignore the sudden bandwagon ppl are being silly. post reads | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:10 marvellosity wrote: why is he making that post instead of bothering to read the thread, where BH is clearly not a possibility? It's just nonsense. exactly its so terrible. | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:12 Crossfire99 wrote: I didn't want to get modkilled, so I posted that post that I had written up before. I am here now catching up, but I still think bh is scummy. I already mentioned that. Ugh. talk about other shit or you will die. | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:13 Blazinghand wrote: man I definitely don't have a right to call play unacceptable this game, but crossfire's play is unacceptable this game are goal is to find fucking scum not to determine who is fucking playing right. | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:14 Blazinghand wrote: no, the shenannnies are good, crossfire needs to be lynched like, he's pulled some crap about posting a case he already had but look at his play this game That post was not claiming scum. Obviously he has been terrible but terrible scum or terrible town. CROSSFIRE would have been well aware that your jk claim was true or not if he was scum and you were telling the truth. I dont see him coming out of nowhere like that as scum. | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:17 debears wrote: That's actually a very good point. Iamp current thought on hopeless gogogo he's an asshole | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:19 debears wrote: Guys we need consolidate now plzzzzzz you need to chill theres still plenty of time | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:20 DarthPunk wrote: holy shit this thread is moving fast. OK. I was not suggesting we switch on to clarity. What I was doing is making a case I was convinced of as I promised. Obviously we are not going to lynch him. Did you see a vote? I don't care if clarity explained something scummy away. It speaks of his mindset and the excuse was weak. @ Perfection. You are probably town based on my meta read on you. If you are not town I don;t think you could keep up the charade for long enough anyway. @Everyone If you are voting for crossfire it is not because you are sure he is scum. It is because he was being bad. it's a coinflip. @Blazinghand. Explain to me how I just 'claimed' scum. Marvs case on ZB is really good. There is a strong correlation between his play this game and his scum game. The same sense of disconnect with the cases he is pushing. I would vote for him or hopeless But I like the case on ZB better ##Vote: Z -Boson so you made a case for shits and giggles? | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:25 Hapahauli wrote: Holy scumslip DP iamp - good stuff ##unvote ##Vote DarthPunk ya i dont like that hapa i wouldn't call it a scum slip its a more of being stupid slip. | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:38 DarthPunk wrote: take a look at their filters and try and see what I see when I am confirmed town. I can't build ~10 cases in 30 minutes. that is an unreasonable expectation. thats not whats being asked just stay until the lynch. say what comes to mind from what you see. | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:45 marvellosity wrote: yeah this is gonna be a mislynch i agree ## Unvote | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:46 Blazinghand wrote: ._. curse you DP for casting doubt into my heart. I'll just shoot you tonight with all my vigi bullets then ##unvote ##vote ZB ...........................................wat | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:56 Hapahauli wrote: What in the shit is all of this? quiet | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:59 Hapahauli wrote: This such fucking bullshit owned | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:59 Hapahauli wrote: I leave for 5 minutes and a bucnh of you are swinging a random fucking lynch for no reason? drop your reads brah | ||
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On November 15 2012 11:17 DarthPunk wrote: Trying to get as much town cred as possible from your bus hey. lol wat | ||
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On November 15 2012 11:17 DarthPunk wrote: Trying to get as much town cred as possible from your bus hey. you actually tthink that was a bus come on dude it happened in like 2 min and me and bh started and pushed for it give me a break | ||
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On November 15 2012 11:20 DarthPunk wrote: HAHAHAHA. You are scum BH. far too obvious. And you were forced to bus because marv would have ripped you both to shreds as soon as I flipped town. GG NO RE u serious? | ||
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On November 15 2012 11:36 Blazinghand wrote: I'm not really sure how you're confirmed town. I actually think it's quite the opposite. Please explain. he was the hammer vote wasn't he? | ||
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On November 15 2012 11:40 DarthPunk wrote: You are both idiots. I was being pushed by fucking hapa. He was one of the players to initiate the lynch on me and was fine with the way it was going until marv and others realised I was townie in my death throwes. At the end I was like HAPA is scum. Also I was the one who fucking switched at the last minute when the votes were tied. I made that lynch a certainty at the last possible second before deadline. The ACTUAL MINUTE OF THE DEADLINE. Why you so angry? We just lynched scum. | ||
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On November 15 2012 11:43 Clarity_nl wrote: Did anyone know that Darth was the hammer vote until Dandel posted the votecount? I wasn't sure who had more votes at the end. i did not actually but i don't really see what your point is. | ||
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On November 15 2012 14:54 Blazinghand wrote: And I know you guys are gonna hate me for thus, but uh, yeah, I'm not a JK. Monday I had some family issues come up and it meant I wouldn't have much time to play through today, so I had to fake claim. Thursday and onwards I'm free though. Of course everyone is gonna be like super mad at me for this, but it worked, okay? Okay. I have some pretty damning pms from your coaching if wanted to release but i share marvs thinking on this your either jk or scum. your just trying to play wifom mind games with the mafia that probably wont work if your town. | ||
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On November 15 2012 23:17 marvellosity wrote: Would it be along the lines of "never listen to IRL excuses?" no it would be more along on lines on how to play a blue role. | ||
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On November 15 2012 23:26 marvellosity wrote: I just wanted the gist of it, not an exact transcript, dear. a transcript would be better to show my point. | ||
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: Play like you're a VT. Don't worry about being shot, Scum rarely just shoots the most aggressive guy. The reason you need to be normally aggressive is, what if you catch scum Night 1? If you want to push him during Day 2, you need to do it without claiming if possible, right? So you want to have a HISTORY of being a good scumhunting townie, that way you don't have to claim to push your scumread, cause if you claim you'll get shot right away.: basically bh believes you need a good platform to push from with his lying now (twice maybe?) there is really no reason for anyone to believe him at this point in the game and it goes against his basic principals. BH is sacrificing a ton in order to seemingly survive the night phase. He is hurting his credibility and it is showing he is almost desperate to survive at any costs which is not a town mentality. | ||
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On November 16 2012 00:21 marvellosity wrote: Correct. Liquid City is a perfect comparison here - I was playing a pretty nice game as scum, and then totally unexpectedly I was outed night 1 by a blue mechanic. I went down, and then town fucked themselves in the asses for days looking at connections I had with people. i didnt i fucked myself much later. | ||
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On November 16 2012 01:11 debears wrote: You don't even know i'm town, and you didn't then. You thought I was scum Yet you sound like u knew i would flip town ##FOS Hopeless I dont think thats really what he is say at all he saying he would have been suspicious of hapa if you flipped town which is reasonable i would say. | ||
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On November 16 2012 01:33 marvellosity wrote: I think Crossfire has a decent chance of flipping scum. The blazinghand case out of left field at a stupid time still bothers me don't really see a scum doing that. | ||
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On November 16 2012 01:40 marvellosity wrote: I do, it demonstrates that he basically hadn't been reading the thread, and that was going to be his predetermined contribution to the thread. He popped his vote on Z-Bo 25 minutes before the deadline, and then as the night post came up, popped up to say "good job town". There was no emotional investment in the lynch at all, nor do I see any signs of him being invested in the game. I just looked at his filter from Whose Line and he seemed waaaaaaay more invested in the game. Real life internet excuses or no. you do have a point there. I would like to hear more from him as well as thrawn Thrawn i kind of expect more from you and you seem to be just attacking peoples logic on why they were changing votes and not saying wether it was scummy or not. As someone who likes to change his vote all the time i dont really like just attacks of that kind. | ||
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On November 16 2012 03:11 Z-BosoN wrote: iamperfection is also someone on hapa's train I can't make much sense of. In GSL, he showed that he has no problem bussing. Did so with marv getting lynched on day two quite fast. Now let's take a look at his filter: He's basically been sheeping marv like mad this game: When suddenly, out of nowhere, he says: I'd like to know what herp derp "scumslips" he's referring to. When going through his filter, the only mention of scumslip I found is this: Which to me doesn't look much like a scumslip (or stupid-slip) So I would also like him to clarify why he suddenly decided that he was going to not sheep marv and go for hapa. Also, this is open to interpretation, but his exchange with hapa, regarding my explanation, makes it seem like he's more suspicious of me than of hapa Especially when earlier on he agreed with the case on debears with hapa: So, iamperfection, would like you, as well, to explain your thoughts, and be more clear on what you are referring to when you said "herp derp scumslip scumslip" and why you chose hapa over me. and i aired some misgivings about hapa well before so i dont really know what to say to you. i litteraly have no idea what your talking about. I always sheep marv and i really haven't done it this game. | ||
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On November 16 2012 03:11 Z-BosoN wrote: iamperfection is also someone on hapa's train I can't make much sense of. In GSL, he showed that he has no problem bussing. Did so with marv getting lynched on day two quite fast. Now let's take a look at his filter: He's basically been sheeping marv like mad this game: When suddenly, out of nowhere, he says: I'd like to know what herp derp "scumslips" he's referring to. When going through his filter, the only mention of scumslip I found is this: Which to me doesn't look much like a scumslip (or stupid-slip) So I would also like him to clarify why he suddenly decided that he was going to not sheep marv and go for hapa. Also, this is open to interpretation, but his exchange with hapa, regarding my explanation, makes it seem like he's more suspicious of me than of hapa Especially when earlier on he agreed with the case on debears with hapa: So, iamperfection, would like you, as well, to explain your thoughts, and be more clear on what you are referring to when you said "herp derp scumslip scumslip" and why you chose hapa over me. ebwop quote fuck up i litteraly have no idea what your talking about. I always sheep marv and i really haven't done it this game. and i aired some misgivings about hapa well before so i dont really know what to say to you. | ||
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On November 16 2012 06:34 Kickstart wrote: And this shit about me lurking is getting annoying, I have posts all throughout the thread, I have given my views on people and been completely genuine. Just because I'm not spamming up the thread with useless one-liner shit posts like half the people here doesn't mean I'm lurking. i am by no means an activity fiend and i have a 9 page filter to your 2 so yes that would be defined as lurking. And dont knock 1 line posts. We killed hapa with 1 line posts. | ||
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On November 16 2012 07:26 marvellosity wrote: Kickstart has 30+ posts and we are still in the first cycle. That is not lurking. Just because he's not activity fiends like the rest of us doesn't make him a lurker. 30+ posts in a cycle is quite adequate actually. Well if he wants to complain about it there is only one way to fix it. | ||
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On November 16 2012 07:44 Clarity_nl wrote: if I had a colouring book like marv, Kickstart would be the towniest colour of them all is that your way of saying he is your top town read | ||
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On November 16 2012 07:53 marvellosity wrote: it is, iamp. that's the point of the period :p so the mafia would have to have their kill in the hour before? so if i post after that period that would be good? | ||
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On November 16 2012 07:57 Hopeless1der wrote: That's why I've reverted to my lurking state. oO | ||
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On November 16 2012 07:59 Hopeless1der wrote: fine, i like lurking, you happy now? marvs right just post your case when its done. | ||
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On November 16 2012 08:30 Clarity_nl wrote: It was a joking manner, but I don't take it back, that lynch was dumb as shit. it was awesome | ||
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On November 16 2012 08:39 Clarity_nl wrote: I like to win the "right" way, just who I am. I think it helps more than it hinders. this kind of sums up day 1 | ||
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On November 16 2012 09:39 Hopeless1der wrote: EBWOP: iamperfection: Someone comment on whether they believe this statement its possible | ||
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On November 16 2012 09:44 Blazinghand wrote: Hopeless' case is utterly unreasonable marv wants the vig to shoot you. are you aware? | ||
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marvellosity- Do not lynch. Extremely likely to be town. He has been very engaged and his heart is into this case. He obviously know about hapa super case but i honestly think he would be really depressed if he rolled scum again. debars- Very Probably town. Hapa wanted to kill him very badly and almost succeeded. LIke marv been very active and engaged cares about who gets lynched. Kickstart- Likely town. Would have taken quick thinking on his part if he was scum to bus in that quick of a snap which as a very new player i think it would have been very hard for him to do. strongandbig- His VT claim felt natural so gonna go with town. Should be more engaged. funny that he called me lazy before. Cool story bro. DarthPunk- Was the hammer vote on hapa. Could have saved hapa by simply not hopping on the wagon if he was aware. His agression towards me and bh was kind of weird as well as his seemingly angriness after the flip. However i think he may of just be taking offense to being a potential "mislynch" Clarity_nl- i dont really know what to think about him. Has had a good activity but he didnt vote hapa. But i said before thers not much there that i would say is scummy. But i would keep an eye on him. The shut up stuff towards bh when he suggested hapa was obviously not good either. Z-BosoN- i have no idea what to think about him. his coming at me i guess might be good but i didnt really understand his case so he could be trying to create mislynch options??? Also hapa was kind of defending him somewhat when he was a possibility of being lynched. Hopeless1der- Looks really bad for mostly things potentially outside his control in regards to hapa. Hapas wishy washyness twoards him is obviously not good but i think from my first game Hopeless can eventually look pretty townie if he is in town. Judge him by what he does going forward Blazinghand- idiot. Still leaning not scum though. His lynch would bring me enjoyment though but sadly we must try to win don't we. People i would like lynched Crossfire- Ill sheep marv on this one he provided good reasons to explain his bh case out of left field being scummy. thrawn2112- His play is unacceptable. he has another game going like dp but unlike hasn't really bothered to anything. Voted for dp for similar reason i did yet being in the same circumstances as him weird. This guy is also capable of being an activity fiend and hasn't. Dosen't seem to care about much of anything. Really only talking about bh the most in his filter without many comments on other players at all besides dp. | ||
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On November 16 2012 10:13 Blazinghand wrote: See, this is even more evidence for me being town-- if I'm so bad, surely a scumteam with me and hapa would sacrifice me rather than him now you gonna play wifom come on dude shape up. | ||
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On November 16 2012 10:14 Blazinghand wrote: Wait, okay, why is shooting me even a remotely good idea? I made a good claim I lynched hapa. How can I possibly be scum? why do you keep saying it was good and was obviously not good. | ||
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On November 16 2012 10:16 Hopeless1der wrote: iamperfection: On your thrawn read, i want to know more about this before I'm willing to lynch him: you would have to ask him about that | ||
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On November 16 2012 11:10 Djodref wrote: Ok guys I have a meeting right now so I'm not going to be able to participate too much but I find BH claim to be role blocked extremely convenient. Given all his trolly play during D1 and his ill-timed claim, I'm up for a BH lynch today ! I suspect Cross post and vote against BH to be WIFOM or an easy attempt to distance himself from his partner because a BH lynch was not happening D1 for sure. ##Vote Blazinghand no | ||
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On November 16 2012 11:13 Blazinghand wrote: Also, if you're not voting for SnB you need to give a very good reason for why he's town. ##vote: SnB Why dont you give a super good reason why he is scum? Besides marv said too. I will wait until he gets back because i feel like it and i just dont want to blindly listen to marv. Still want to hear from thrawn as he is out of his other game now he dosen't really have an excuse anymore. Dont really get what marv was saying in that he seems beaten down or bored in a town way this game. Ps guys marv can be wrong dont just check out see you guys in the morning. | ||
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On November 16 2012 12:49 Djodref wrote: @iamp I'm replacing thrawn. I guess marv was referring to thrawn play in Acme which was not really looking like its usual tow. Play as well. Why are you opposed to a BH lynch ? because he claimed jk and there is no counter claim and the timing of it was really weird from a scum perspective and his lying about actually does make like 15% sense somewhat | ||
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On November 16 2012 19:18 Djodref wrote: But would yOu agree thatwe have to lynch him sooner or later? Would he be a good lynch for d3 or d4 ? no | ||
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On November 16 2012 22:59 debears wrote: Does the type of roles on one side affect the roles on the other side in this setup type? Or are they independent of each other? They do wish marv was still here hes good at that stuff ill see what i can dig up. | ||
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for reference by the way if anyone wants to figure stuff out with me. I think keri changes some things around though. | ||
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Bh i delegate this job to you if you so desire. | ||
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On November 16 2012 23:30 Clarity_nl wrote: Like I said. Scum could have jumped on hapa, not expecting anyone to follow. For the same reason I said the last ones to jump on are most likely town. You don't have to use all caps to get your point across. it doesn't make any sense and if scum where smart they would have realized that several players had suspicions of hapa. Just because he didn't have votes on him doesn't mean people were suspicions. myself,Marv,dabars,Kickstart,Bh, dp?? and if i dont remember anyone else sorry but thats good sizable chunk of people as well as people that can make shit happen. | ||
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On November 16 2012 23:39 Clarity_nl wrote: I think saying "everyone who was on hapa is confirmed town" is bad. You guys can't possibly disagree with that...? im not using the word confirmed im just saying its stupid to look at them over other players at this point. | ||
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"Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions" | ||
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sometime you catch the mafia with their pants down. Also from my coaching in that game bh had stated that mafia typically do not bus a godfather they may have been in the end but they would likely not lead a charge. This wagon was even more sudden than that one so i think it leads to more likely conclusion that the members of it are more likely to be town. | ||
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On November 17 2012 00:08 Clarity_nl wrote: Yes, likely. But the fact that debears repeats it a whole lot is weird to me. I'm not disagreeing with you, but I don't want people to get it into their heads that they can ignore everyone who was on hapa and take their word as gospel. of course not | ||
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On November 17 2012 00:11 iamperfection wrote: by the way the acme game is almost about the the train that is this game about to run them over in terms of activity ebwop by the way the acme game is almost about hear the train that is this game about to run them over in terms of activity | ||
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On November 17 2012 00:14 Clarity_nl wrote: Your logic is all over the fucking place debears, and I don't like it at all. does that make him scum or does it simply displease you. If you want to say something to him in regards to him being scum or not then say it otherwise stop wasting time. | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:55 thrawn2112 wrote: how does this lead to this Thrawn was around the lynch deadline. | ||
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On November 17 2012 00:26 Hopeless1der wrote: I think we're at 9v1 with no SK, and setup speculation says there's at least 1 more blue besides myself, Z-bo and BH (assuming we're all telling the truth). Yes, I count miller as a blue. Unless a townie claims the block on BH, it means scum have Kamek remaining and C9++ requires 0, 1, or 2 "T's" to have Goon, Roleblocker, Godfather (and possible SK). That means 5 'rolls' went towards blue's. I don't know how that ends up working out since Vig's are all one-shot and doctors are JK's instead, but I think there is at least 1 unclaimed blue. I don't want to mass claim because its not likely to get us much more to work with. I'm pissed that I can't ask thrawn why he was being un-thrawny. He specifically referenced the fact that Hapa and Marv should have been on his case and now they're all gone. I need djo to get off of BH for a moment and find scum elsewhere. He seems to be barking at clarity for the moment, so I'll see how that goes. Sk is still possible isn't it? Double stack or holding shots. | ||
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On November 17 2012 00:40 Clarity_nl wrote: If there is an SK and it's not hopeless then it would be weird for him to withhold a shot, seeing as we lynched scum D1. Double stack is possible, but would an SK shoot cross? i have never played sk so i dont really know how they think. I was killed by one once didnt really know what in that instance either. | ||
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On November 17 2012 00:41 iamperfection wrote: i have never played sk so i dont really know how they think. I was killed by one once didnt really know what in that instance either. ebwop didn't know why in that instance | ||
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On November 17 2012 00:42 Clarity_nl wrote: I think that if you're playing to your win condition and town lynches scum D1 you'll try to shoot a townie. Could be wrong. I actually didn't consider an SK trying to shoot marv, that's an interesting thought. well yeah that would be the general idea i would think. There not pro town or pro scum | ||
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On November 17 2012 00:47 Clarity_nl wrote: Ehhhh, crazy thought, how certain are we that there are 3 scum? I don't see it in the OP. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9++ There cant be more than 3 scum. Also if we take the blues word there isn't two scum. | ||
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On November 17 2012 09:27 Blazinghand wrote: My claim makes perfect sense. I was under heavy pressure, and they weren't listening to my arguments. I didn't want to be on the lynch table, and honestly any analysis and voting is infinitely more important than being a JK. The number one role of any blue player is to play like a VT-- the blue powers are just a bonus on top, especially in Normal games. The blue powers I used to avoid a shitty mislynch D1 and focus the discussion. And hey, it worked, too. It's not irrelevant. There's now town JKer counterclaiming me, and you can't just toss that out the window-- so far there is one blue claim other than myself, and that's all. I'm uncontested. If you're gonna pull a meta argument, show me a damn game inw hich I act like this as scum, I double dog dare you how The fuck you were you were not under heavy pressure you have talked about this constantly. Your claim didnt make any sense and you knew it. Stop acting like you made some great play because you didn't. you are delusional. Do you not read your own coaching tips??????????? | ||
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On November 17 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote: My claim was necessary. I played bad and was forced to claim, but the claim itself, given the circumstances, was the right call. bs. Whatever happened to be able to pushing your agenda as town by having the credibility of good scum hunting townie. Those are your coaching tips BH. You have ZERO creditability this game and you know it. | ||
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On November 17 2012 09:35 DarthPunk wrote: This really isn't necessary BH. I never figured you as one for personal attacks. But I like both you and S&B from what I know of you and this is just unnecessary bullshit IMO. lol wat you never figured bh for personal attacks? | ||
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On November 17 2012 09:36 Blazinghand wrote: If I didn't feel I was forced to claim, then why did I claim? OMG i miss marv | ||
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On November 17 2012 09:39 Blazinghand wrote: I claimed halfway through D1, that's not "so fucking early" that's "just right" and you (should) know that. you should not want to claim at all you | ||
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On November 17 2012 09:42 DarthPunk wrote: No he has always been super friendly and nice whenever I have interacted with him. I never played with him though. Maybe that is the difference. i have a chart with all the mean things bh has said to me in the two games we have played. I had to get another chart. | ||
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also On November 16 2012 13:02 Z-BosoN wrote: I´ve been a bit busy today, and will be so tomorrow as well. I´m down with a SnB lynch right now. Tomorrow I´m going to check thrawn´s filter (djodref can´t really do much at this point...) and see if I still think so, when I find time. Anyways, checking BH is the stupidest shit you can do, whoever said that above. Odds that he is scum are really low right now. Like I said, just lynch the people on my wagon and youll do just fine. (was right about one of them already. Debears, update the scoreboard will you ) Also, to those of you who think I´m scum, you are out of your fucking mind. That´s about it. ##Vote SnB says hes going to be busy next two days but is go to check thraws now djo filter( lol wat). Plus he then didn't do it anyways. | ||
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On November 17 2012 10:01 DarthPunk wrote: That is exactly his scum meta oh perfect one. thank you for addressing me correctly. | ||
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On November 17 2012 10:12 debears wrote: Lol i can't believe we didn't catch this d1................ he has to say it he says it almost every game | ||
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On November 14 2012 08:45 Hapahauli wrote: Yeah I'm looking at Thrawn and Kickstart atm. Thrawn's inactivity is pretty uncharacteristic of him so far. Kickstart as well dumped some suspicion on me and then peace'd out. I'm a bit more forgiving to Kickstart though as a first-time player. So let's get thrawn talking shall we? ##Vote Thrawn (Would love to hear from kickstart too, but more concerned with Thrawn atm) he did actually he just didn't mention cross. | ||
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On November 17 2012 13:49 Djodref wrote: @ BH First of all, could you get my name right ? Call me Djo if you prefer but not Djoref oh shit you just made a mistake its Djoref till the end of time now. | ||
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On November 17 2012 14:06 Djodref wrote: @ DarthPunk Let's try to have some constructive discussion, shall we ? What do you think of the possibility for BH to be a very ballsy SK ? It still wouldn't make sense. | ||
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On November 17 2012 14:22 Djodref wrote: @ iamp Yes, but you have to consider the fact that he was already on the radar of some players halfway through D1. It was a big risk to take but I think the reward is that town players don't want to lynch you anymore. Did he look more concerned by his survival or did he look more concerned by scumhunting during D1 ? the death of hapa would suggest scumhunting .several people were suspicious of hapa and as much as it pains me i have to give him some credit for that even if it take away for the glory which is rightfully mine. Just because players are good doesn't mean they always lay their best. Bh reminds me a lot of VE in liquid city a vet who had a lot expected of him but kind of crumbled. No matter what delusions he has that he is playing well. | ||
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On November 17 2012 14:26 Djodref wrote: True enough, I didn't consider the fact that he would have been a target of choice for the mafia. I'm going to drop this SK thing then. Anyway, if he is the third scum, he his 100% a role blocker and it makes sense for the roleblocker to claim JK, doesn't it ? not really in that scenario there likely would have actually been a jk and it would have been bh going for 1 for 1 trade when he had 2 or 3 votes on him. | ||
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Clarity- Im leaning stronger to the town side based on his actions through this cycle. Seems to be very engaged and looks like he is trying to figure things out. Also true story when i was reading the thread all day from my phone at work i was thinking where is that fucker kickstart and as soon as i refreshed the page i saw clarity saying the same thing that i was thinking. Shows he has a healthy suspicion of almost everyone and doesn't rule out every possibility even if he thinks the person is likely town. BH- An enigma. The stupid claim still makes me think the most likely argument is that he is in fact the jk. Some of the things that have come out of his mouth have absolutely flabbergasted me but what are you going to do. If he is town i can look down on him from now on if he is scum we will get him eventually i think. So either way win win for the perfect one. Still more likely to be jk i say though. more to come | ||
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On November 18 2012 06:37 Blazinghand wrote: that claim 1) saved my life and also 2) i lynched hapa im playing great this game did you see my case on zb yes i saw your case it was basically an expansion on what i said in one sentence and you made a fancy case around it. im well aware. | ||
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On November 18 2012 06:43 DarthPunk wrote: No one cares about BH's claim right now. So we can shut up about it and focus on lynching ZB or someone else. ZB, Clarity, DJo, S&B Those are our candidates. Personally I want to lynch ZB for being scum. I could vote for clarity also. I do not want to vote for S&B or Djo today. why clarity i had a stronger town read during this cycle | ||
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On November 17 2012 09:16 strongandbig wrote: oh yeah also this is for clarity I started a dota game at 2:50 AM and it went for 38 minutes. I posted some "lol"s when I alt-tabbed out and saw the hapa lynch. I don't lie about that stuff. | ||
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On November 18 2012 09:06 Z-BosoN wrote: iamp, do something useful sir. SnB isn't here and wont be. he is here he posted like 2 mins before you buffoon | ||
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On November 18 2012 09:11 DarthPunk wrote: Or is that because I live in australia? no the dates are fine i think i have another point shhhhhhh let him answer | ||
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On November 18 2012 09:21 Z-BosoN wrote: Done. All my reads and thoughts on the game have been written. Perhaps I should increase the expectation and post it right before I die. That way I look like a hero and leave a greater impact on you guys, so as to not be confused with a scum trying to buy off a lynch. If I post them now though, I might look a little bad. What do you guys think? Hmm. I'm tired of this game though, was fun in day 1 but now it's just a bunch of people posting with their and won't have much time to play during the week. Perhaps I should post these right before I die. Yes, yes, sir Chronos the Gallant wants to look good! now you idiot | ||
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On November 18 2012 09:24 Z-BosoN wrote: But but but then it will look lamer and less heroic. Might be confused with WIFOM. I want to look heroic for the fans! im all for winning quicker if you are town you will make this go longer. It would also allow dabars to get a 30 page filter which nobody wants. | ||
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On November 18 2012 09:26 Z-BosoN wrote: How much time left? hour and a half i think | ||
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You mention zbos as well but other than nothing really My last point is more like icing on the cake. ill give you some time before i lead the wagon wagon of justice towards you. | ||
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On November 18 2012 10:15 DarthPunk wrote: Nah. I want ZB to flip. Then if the game is still going we can check out that wall of text of his. its not that long read it bro | ||
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On November 18 2012 10:22 strongandbig wrote: umm yeah I think so why did I fuck something up? are you sure no extended breaks at all ???? | ||
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I like many others had just pulled off a last minute switch onto a well respected player. You are problaly sitting there f5 the thread like crazy with anticipation hoping beyond hopes that the brilliant executed switch had in fact succeeded. As you will note i posted a video the second after finding out of my success i had another video ready in case of defeat.. I in another tab i am f5'ing like crazy waiting for are gracious host to provide the results. Later we have s&b claim he was busy playing dota at the time and yet so happened to snipe me at the flip i call bs. | ||
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On November 18 2012 10:49 Z-BosoN wrote: Yea, specially when he can just unvote BH and vote me to live. you are still set to die right now friend. sorry | ||
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On November 18 2012 10:57 Blazinghand wrote: just got back quick whats the deal with snb switch? you wouldn't like it anyways and it isn't switched | ||
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On November 18 2012 10:58 Blazinghand wrote: oh im just wondering if i should be hopping my vote over due to some new evidence. he's still on my scumdar and is probably my #2 lynch choice for today i had a crazy theory about him lying that he was playing dota | ||
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On November 18 2012 13:02 Djodref wrote: @ Kickstart I would like to know what you think of the mass claim !!! zbos thought we had a cop i say let him do whatever he wants.(which is how i would want it) | ||
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On November 18 2012 13:17 Djodref wrote: I'm going to claim during the last hour of N2 ! Who is with me on this ? I would like to remind you once again the benefits of a mass claim !
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I know my little mini case on you is kind of silly with the dota thing is crazy but you could at least call it stupid. DO YOU CARE s&b. Bh think about your action critically please i will lead the wagon of justice against you myself if you make another dumb play this game. Also DP want to hear your thoughts in light of zbos flip is clarity who your still thinking now because i dont really see it. djo i know you think setup speculation but please do some traditional scum hunting before dawn. I will post updated thoughts in the 1 hour grace period like last time. I will probably be quieter tomorrow because weekends are bad for my mafia play but i will be here 100% during that grace period. | ||
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On November 18 2012 14:55 Djodref wrote: @ iamp I'm sorry but I don't think that we need traditional scum hunting if we mass-claim. Why would you want to read in details 130 pages of posts when you can use simple logic to find the bad guys ? Are you in or not ? Anyway I want to lynch BH tomorrow so I'll bring a case against him. S&B is on my side so I'm not inclined to lynch him... I am a bit wary of debears right now because he has been a little stupid wrt the Z-Bo lynch and this is not something I expect from town debears. But it's sunday and he has a long filter and I think there is a better way to solve this game. was i being unreasonable? Do it and ill do the mass claim. Also wouldn't it feel double nice if after your traditional scumhunting you catch them with setup speculation? double win see. | ||
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On November 18 2012 15:36 Djodref wrote: @ iamp Actually, that's a good argument. If you don't mind, I'll try to explain the concept one more time to Kickstart and Clarity because they are here and is seems to me that they don't see how mass claim would greatly help us to solve the game. I'll look at debears after that good boy good night | ||
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On November 19 2012 01:40 strongandbig wrote: no its not fake i have no idea what iamperfection was talking about, i've been assuming he has some kind of point and he'll get to it eventually as for "y u so mad didue u gotta chill out" all i have to say is, I guess your plan to discredit me by insulting me and getting me angry is working. how did you snipe me thats all i want to know. i was f5'ing like crazy and somehow you sniped me with your lol. I thought you said you were playing dota. | ||
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On November 19 2012 03:26 Clarity_nl wrote: Like I said. They want the cop dead ASAP. You are no threat since you'll just get perma roleblocked. The order does matter. I'd be shocked if the scum shoots you or hopeless. i agree with this | ||
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On November 19 2012 03:27 Blazinghand wrote: Um, but they can't shoot the cop tonight cause they don't know who he is, right? Tonight they HAVE to shoot me or hopeless, then tomorrow night shoot the cop, then the night after shoot whichever they didn't shoot out of me and hopeless. Am I missing something here? if the cop checks the scum its gg | ||
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On November 19 2012 03:30 Blazinghand wrote: Hm, that's a good point. I forgot about that. In fact, even a cop with two green checks can make this game massively more difficult for scum since that would bring us up to 5 confirmed townies out of 8 players tomorrow you see i'm not that useless am i. | ||
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On November 19 2012 03:32 Blazinghand wrote: I have never insinuated that _in my entire life_ and I am astonished you think I'd think that about you. I hold you in the highest esteem, sonny boyo lad child etc etc we have a love hate relationship bh. i do love you though. | ||
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On November 19 2012 03:32 Clarity_nl wrote: iamp taking credit for clarity's points since 2012 ya but i gave the why clarity very important | ||
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On November 19 2012 03:35 Clarity_nl wrote: I thought it was obvious =/ obviously not | ||
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On November 19 2012 03:37 Clarity_nl wrote: Okay enough fluff. iamp what's your read on debears currently? you will have to wait. | ||
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iamperfection- still awesome Hopeless- He is the vig. I give him a 1% chance of being sk DarthPunk- he is still town. Hammer vote. Is a heartless bastard for killing zbos though ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Probably shouldn't lynch Clarity_nl- I dont really see what dp has in suspicion of him. Sure he was yelling to stop the hapa lynch but i still think that was perfectly reasonable regarding the circumstances. I have read his filter and i just get the feeling of guy that seems like he is trying to figure this out and is actively looking for scum. Blazinghand- Unfortunately my town read is strengthening on him. Probally should be in the do not lynch category but i will leave this here because it might annoy him a little. He has been making reads and looks like he is trying to figure things out. Provided case on zbos and pushed it is open to other possibilities and is actively engaged with the conversation. Has taken stance on a lot of the things going on when i read his filter Kickstart- Yes he hasnt been around but im getting more of a sense that he just got lazy. Also he had that little comment that we should all be in like some hippie commune and be nice to each other dont think he would say that because it could incur the wrath of me and bh which i dont think he would do that as scum. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- people who have been given me some misgivings but not enough to lynch debars-So i went back through his filter and one thing that really scared me was when i looked at his switch over to dp close to the end there when dp made the case for just the sake of making case. I pointed out how stupid that was and hapa went herp derp scum slip. His simlar reaction to hapa's is conerning but i still think he is town. Djodref (Replaced thrawn2112)- So much setup speculation not necessarily totally bad since he seems to think thats the key to solve the game. My f5 in the other tab caught his points that he just made on debars and i think its totally long and i think he misreads it totally because i would definitely not say it was a "soft" bus if it was in fact a bus hapa and dp were going at each other hardcore. Also i wouldnt say they were forced at all. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lynch him S&B- Disappears at convenient times and then complains that he is in fact active and here (orly). Says he just came up with the idea for the mass Claim (lol you reading the thread bro djo has been saying that for the last 24 hours). Only really talks about bh and setup. He can die he has the best chance of flipping scum. | ||
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On November 19 2012 10:07 Blazinghand wrote: ok, so I RBed hopeless1. If through some colossal screw-up of the century scum forget to RB me but also remember to send in the NK, they're probably shooting him, our confirmed town. In the even he's like the SK or something, hey, look i'm helping by RBing the SK. good you passed your test | ||
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On November 19 2012 09:53 DarthPunk wrote: Right. I caught up. Clarity whining about inactivity in this game is just silly. This is the opposite of an inactive game. The fact that clarity persists on spending so much time whining about inactivity when that is not happening bothers me. Also clarity has asked me to actually pursue scum reads as If I haven;t already. I had a major scum read on ZB and pursued it. I had a scum read on clarity and posted a case to a vitriolic reception. That's another thing. Clarity says I should make a case on him if he is my scum read. as if I have not already. I would like to know the town mindset behind spreading untruths and focusing far to much on inactivity when the game is not inactive. Blazinghands case against clarity is good. And the fact that clarity resorted to WIFOM to establish his townieness worries me. S&B is a town read. clarity and djo need to be looked at next. If BH is alive much longer we need to lynch him. i do that all the time asking for cases on me if people really think im scum. I think town members tend to be more aggresive and would have no problem making a case. Just because hes asking you to do something ,that would be false from his perspective if he is town , doesn't mean their is a scum motivation behind it. Its just asking you to put your thoughts out there | ||
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On November 19 2012 10:24 debears wrote: would go more in depth but in middle of lol game lol your in the middle of a mafia game right now 2 | ||
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On November 19 2012 10:32 Clarity_nl wrote: It's not so much inactivity as it's the willingness to show up, add nothing but post anyway, and dissapear. Inactivity was a bad word to use. People were playing like we'd already won. to be fair i have noticed that in all my games the threads kind of die on weekends. | ||
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On November 16 2012 10:57 debears wrote: MARIO PARTY THAT IS HAHAAHHA oh lol | ||
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On November 19 2012 11:37 Clarity_nl wrote: Debears is the magic girl from Code Geass. It all makes sense now. i got the reference | ||
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On November 19 2012 11:43 Djodref wrote: Aww shit ! GG debears... I guessed he was cop, I had found his crumb in his filter when I was checking it at iamp demand. He thinks he had checked Hopeless... So I've tried to look suspicious of him to avoid him being killed. Still I would have preferred him to claim. That's not good for us wait what | ||
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On November 19 2012 11:43 Djodref wrote: Aww shit ! GG debears... I guessed he was cop, I had found his crumb in his filter when I was checking it at iamp demand. He thinks he had checked Hopeless... So I've tried to look suspicious of him to avoid him being killed. Still I would have preferred him to claim. That's not good for us what you just said makes absolutely no sense | ||
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On November 19 2012 11:46 Hopeless1der wrote: what was the crumb? he put mario party in caps | ||
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On November 19 2012 11:46 Clarity_nl wrote: Think he means suspicious of debears. Still doesn't make sense though. Yes I'm still here, shut up. yes i think your right still doesn't make sense. | ||
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On November 19 2012 11:53 Djodref wrote: Wait ! What about the only one T and zero T setups? Are you sure ? oh zero t is a possibility in your view? | ||
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On November 19 2012 11:55 Djodref wrote: I saw the crumb but I kept acting like I was suspicious of debears... Does that make more sense ? you said you didn't see it until i said go look....... | ||
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On November 19 2012 11:56 Clarity_nl wrote: iamp did you tell djo to check debears' filter earlier this game? i dont know | ||
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On November 19 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote: Where's the crumb for the check on me? i didnt see a crumb on you i assumed since you were his top scumread i also could see him checking cross since i didnt see any other crumbs | ||
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On November 19 2012 12:17 Djodref wrote: I'M on phone right now. I found the crumb after you told me to go traditional scumhunt. The crumb is right after the start of D2. "MB <3" doesnt make any sense except for Mario Brothers. Mario found Luigi. ok i see | ||
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On November 19 2012 12:20 Hopeless1der wrote: That crumb does make sense. 0T is a possibility, I missed it in my machinations. Either a mason-pair or a second cop are the only options though. 1T is technically possible as well, but lack of NK's suggests otherwise so I didn't consider it. well ill help you out 0 T is not possible | ||
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On November 19 2012 12:25 Hopeless1der wrote: Actually statistically impossible or just really unlikely? Can you explain how it cant be? let me just make sure my thinking is right 0T means no vannila townies right? | ||
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On November 19 2012 12:31 Djodref wrote: lol no, this is just wrong. CCCCCMM you would have two cops and two masons and 3 Maf and the rest would be VTs. oh yeah nvm ive made this same mistake before | ||
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On November 19 2012 12:28 Djodref wrote: Shit guys, are you actually voting me for this ? I admit I didn't explain it well but I don't think its a good reason to vote for someone... On a side note, I think that our setup is MVCCDTT. This is what makes the most sense right now and S&B should know it as well. I'm totally dropping BH now. But if there is another blue, he has to claim noaw imo. so no sk then right | ||
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On November 19 2012 12:38 Blazinghand wrote: So Drodref's story checks out then? Cause if so I'm back on S&B like white on rice false alarm i would say | ||
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On November 19 2012 12:44 Djodref wrote: Yeah no SK in this case. We just have to find the last scum and we know for sure that he is not Hope and not BH. We still have 3 lynch to find him. It's too bad that debears couldn't confirm anyone else at the exception of the confirmed vig because it would almost have been GG right now then. If there is still one blue, I want him to claim now or I'm going to auto-vote him after. look at me setup speculate like a boss | ||
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On November 19 2012 12:59 Djodref wrote: Was that sarcasm ? My plan was quite good but I didn't take into account the Cop (I thought the cop was you when Z-Bo referred to the Cop for the first time, I thought that you had checked thrawn or BH N1) would not bring us confirmed townies with him. I'm quite impressed by this snipe from the mafia player and I didn't see it coming. But things should be easier now. Iamp, DP, Clarity, Kickstart, S&B The last scum is hiding among these players if I'm right about the setup. We have 3 shots to find him. Easy enough imo wait a sec could you clear this up once and for all. when did you figure out who the cop was? | ||
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IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO THE LAST SCUM IS. Their is almost no discourse with the town and all you do is defend and complain. So dont come in here and tell us the reasons for voting for you are stupid. You look like textbook scum to me. | ||
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On November 19 2012 23:23 Clarity_nl wrote: Hey iamp if you're around how do you feel about Kickstart right now? How do you feel about his last couple of posts? still don't mind him that much | ||
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On November 19 2012 23:36 Kickstart wrote: The fact that you find it suspicious that I say I am not clear at the moment on where to go if SnB does not flip scum is rather silly, because I would venture to say most people feel the same. he is implying you already know the result of the lynch. | ||
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On November 20 2012 00:52 Kickstart wrote: SnB why are you not conceding yet? lol | ||
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On November 20 2012 01:14 Blazinghand wrote: In any case, I'll understand if you disagree with my analysis here, and yes I didn't like Kickstart much at the end of N2 but that was for a very serious review of his filter. I am now utterly against lynching him today. ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ wtf happened with that post? | ||
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On November 20 2012 02:13 strongandbig wrote: yeah if i could concede i totes would ##concede maybe this will work was that real? | ||
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On November 20 2012 02:18 Blazinghand wrote: that would be funny but I'm gonna say "no" because as scum you typically concede by PMing the host I see what you did there | ||
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On November 20 2012 02:27 Blazinghand wrote: what did I do there Gsl 3 | ||
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On November 20 2012 04:33 strongandbig wrote: hint: you're all stupid My witty retort: Your stupid But seriously like will you give us something when you get home or are you just gonna mail it in? | ||
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On November 20 2012 08:27 Clarity_nl wrote: Okay, no one is commenting on anything, which is terrible. Just one last thing before I go to bed: When I ask a question I don't give my opinion on them, it would be dumb if I did. I'd be giving someone the answer to my question. When I ask a question I expect a certain kind of answer, and if the answer differs from my expectation that will make me suspicious. Explaining my reasoning for asking a question would negate all of that, so I simply ask it. If you think asking a lot of questions is easy/scummy, I urge you to look at the context of my questions. You'll find they make perfect sense. I'm either getting the person I ask to open up because they've been quiet, trying to elicit a reaction out of the person I'm asking or I'm getting a second pair of eyes on my suspicions. Not only is SnB's case on me extremely hypocritical, it's also completely wrong. Just because he made the longest case ever does not mean it is a good one. His only point is that I'm trying to look pro-town, which is scummy. If you guys truly believe my posts are me trying to look pro-town without being pro-town then go ahead and vote me, but once I flip vt you guys better lynch SnB. Been saying it for 5 days and no one has disagreed. Good night. ... My town read was strengthening on clarity the last few cycles until really this post. It seems like to be somewhat overkill in my view. Like S&B is totally the number one lynch candidate and produces a mild case in my view. Like he has some points but its not the be all end all of all cases. And clarity goes on to reference once he flips town vote s&b like what in the actual fuck??? The whole post comes across as unnecessary and overkill. He seems to be going out of his way to super defend himself when in my mind he doesn't really need to do so. I'm going to review his filter. | ||
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On November 20 2012 08:52 Clarity_nl wrote: I thought for sure he was getting lynched last day and people lynched zbo. Not leaving anything to chance. .. whats the big risk? | ||
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so i was going though his filter again making a case but i ran into this post. Scum i don't think would call out his own member that quickly would he? im having a hard time getting past this especially when cross had little attention on him. | ||
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On November 20 2012 11:13 Blazinghand wrote: yeah he could do it i dont see a vote from him he does this after it was very sudden though almost like he was reading and reacting to what cross was doing. Like he called it before anyone else. | ||
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On November 20 2012 11:13 Blazinghand wrote: what do debears hopeless and zb all hav ein common? townies, but not vts well ya i saw that posts to its kind of scummy because he doesn't really advocate which one he wants to get lynched but that post can also be interpreted as just assessing the reality of the situation. | ||
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On November 20 2012 23:09 Clarity_nl wrote: Yeah, cause snb is scum. If for some reason he's not then it's you or djo, probably you. Conclusion, everyone else is town. I should have said town when I ordered everyone, yes, but he's my weakest town read so it's an easy mistake to make. you thinks dp recent agression means he could potentially be scum? I think the opposite he had no reason to be aggressive at all. | ||
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On November 20 2012 23:21 Clarity_nl wrote: Would love to hear some thoughts iamp, did you finish reading up on me? yes i did | ||
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On November 20 2012 23:57 Clarity_nl wrote: Your play just seems super similar to your two last games as town. I don't see a scum djo jumping on blazing in that situation I don't see a scum djo being so into the setup speculation. Generally I'd call stuff like that scummy but you really seemed like you wanted to figure shit out, and you did. The going overboard thing is your meta. I don't see scum anyone suggesting a mass roleclaim plan like you did. Those are my main points I guess. You're the same as the last two games, and you were town in those. I haven't had a moment of "yeah he's clearly town because of this", that's why my read is so slight. you know s&b suggested a mass role claim right | ||
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- he's been asking a lot of questions, but often without sharing his own positions or thoughts until being pushed i know you said you ask those questions to elicit a response but i looked through your filter and you took almost 0 hard positions at all. Worrisome for obvious reasons but if you look at the shitstroms that happened on day 1 your only hard stances came at the end of the day when you said lynching cross and hapa were stupid. | ||
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On November 19 2012 08:04 strongandbig wrote: okay listen up guys I thought of this on the way back from work. If we massclaim, it will instantly confirm half of the town. The scum will have to either claim a blue role, or claim VT. We look at the blue roles that get claimed, we back out the DCTVetc, and we calculate "for this set of blue roles, how many VTs should there be" Then there will either be too many or too few VT claims. If there's too many, all the blues are confirmed. If there's too few, all the VTs are confirmed and one of the blues is scum. sup now blazingasshole | ||
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- The vt slip by S&B= You voted for it but didn't really take a hard position just asked for an explanation - Bh wierd play in the beginning= Not much at all -hapa's attack of me- Not much at all -Hapa's attack on debars- You slightly considered voting him but not much of your own reasons why | ||
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BH, Marv, Debars and myself were all right in there getting our hands dirty you were just kind of there on day1 if you know what i mean. | ||
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On November 21 2012 00:59 Clarity_nl wrote: You mean this? Yeah I recall seeing that and agreeing with marv, doing a complete 180 that early into day 1 is not scum like. No one really talked about it afterwards so there was no point to comment on it. not really just that he spent a good amount of time trying to push a lynch on me. A grave mistake in my eyes . right hapa? | ||
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On November 21 2012 01:05 Blazinghand wrote: ##unvote ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) | ||
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On November 21 2012 07:25 Blazinghand wrote: eating dinner atm. will make meta read on iamp then vote someone dont fuck it up | ||
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On November 21 2012 07:46 Blazinghand wrote: Please iamp when have I fucked up anything this game i always thought you weren't that funny. I stand corrected | ||
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On November 21 2012 07:56 Clarity_nl wrote: I don't have to go through my filter, I already did after snb's case. Please keep in mind that it was day 1. Before my case on darth I took no strong stances. Then I took a strong stance on darth until I switched to zbo because I realized darth was not going to get lynched, and his replies started to look townie. I do not believe this is scummy. Day 1 is about collecting information and creating a town atmosphere, and there's more than 1 way to go about doing that. I ask you to look beyond day 1 as well. the game changed dramatically after day 1 i think in this game the interactions on day 1 are most important. After day 1 and night one the remaining scum had no ones interest but his own correct? | ||
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On November 21 2012 08:41 Blazinghand wrote: really if I can just nail down a solid 3rd townread like kick and iamp we win since we have 3 lynches to spend From phone Djo is town I would say. Look at conversation after i voted | ||
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On November 21 2012 09:51 Clarity_nl wrote: Sorry iamp, your gut is wrong. Shoulda gone with your brain. did you forget day 1? shenanigans are never ruled out | ||
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On November 21 2012 10:57 Clarity_nl wrote: Again with the day 1 though. I kinda got fucked over by the cross and hapa shenanigans. But did I spam? i dont think so | ||
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On November 21 2012 10:58 Clarity_nl wrote: Like, I kind of got insulted on a personal level, people saying my posts are useless TT you can take things personally in this game | ||
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On November 21 2012 10:58 iamperfection wrote: you can take things personally in this game this was supposed to say cant take | ||
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On November 21 2012 13:59 DarthPunk wrote: Cause I think S&B is probably town and I am town so if both those things are true lynching like this loses the game for town. so naturally you think djo is the scum. I disagree | ||
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we are now in the perfect ones court and we shall proceed thus we lynch S&B. We should have just listened to marv to begin with. Anyways S&B if you are town you will weigh in on both djo and Dp as we try to figure out this mess(you can weigh in on kickstart but that would be waste of time imo). And no there is no wiggling your way out of this S&B you are on death row and the governor has run out of pardons. The only way to rectify yourself is to help us win going forward. | ||
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On November 22 2012 12:22 Djodref wrote: I'm up for a Darthpunk lynch today ! If you guys still want to lynch S&B, please just do it tomorrow, but this is not going to happen, because the game is going to end today when DP dies. ##Vote DarthPunk stfu and listen to the perfect one. | ||
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On November 22 2012 12:22 Djodref wrote: I'm up for a Darthpunk lynch today ! If you guys still want to lynch S&B, please just do it tomorrow, but this is not going to happen, because the game is going to end today when DP dies. ##Vote DarthPunk also that was scummy as shit it looks like your just trying to beg for your survival as long as possible and i dont like how both of you seem so certain the other one is the final scum. | ||
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On November 16 2012 11:44 DarthPunk wrote: Oh. If there is a DT you should check BH. Why did you suggest this dp you had recently had said this just a bit earlier in the thread On November 16 2012 10:36 DarthPunk wrote: Not offended at all it is true. But you are not clearly town so stop putting that Idea into peoples heads right now. Also. Blazing hand would be fucking insane to fake claim JK day 1 as scum or as fucking SK. he is JK. So Marv as much as you would like to believe he is scum he is not and you are going to have to deal with that and use your 'assets' elsewhere. You came to this conclusion after long spouting off the bh was scum. Then shortly after you suggested a dt check Whats the deal ? Trying to waste the cops investigations ? | ||
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On November 22 2012 13:26 DarthPunk wrote: I was freaking paranoid about a BH fakeclaim. I am actually relieved in a way that he died tonight because it makes things much simpler. I didn't say anything about it earlier because I wanted scum to kill BH like they are supposed to and not have a situation were BH was alive at MYLO and make us all freak out. If he had not died tonight I would probably have said something along the lines of why isn't he dead yet? And started asking the questions that were never asked in my last game. We knew from setup speculation that bh was already the jk... Your paranoia was not justified. | ||
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On November 22 2012 15:00 DarthPunk wrote: This is getting nowhere. I will no longer respond to you. actually you guys will be responding to each other for what might be the next four or so days so you better get used to it. Pray to god S&B is scum if not we are going to be getting real comfy with each other . | ||
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as for your case i will probally respond to after thanksgiving so well sorry. I will tell you that i dont really care much for your point that he didn't have much of a reason for voting for hapa. Nobody had a great reason(it was a gamble somewhat) for voting for hapa but i will take a closer look when i have time. | ||
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On November 22 2012 16:01 Djodref wrote: @ iamp Is this really your conclusion when you see DP and me going after each other throat like this ? So, you are saying that both of us are town and we are both stupid for giving a town read on the last remaining scum ? I hope so because that would be pretty hilarious. | ||
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On November 22 2012 16:20 Djodref wrote: When is going to be "after Thanksgiving" ? I'm French and I live in South Korea, I've never participated in any Thanksgiving and I'm not ever sure what you guys are supposed to do during that time except than eating a turkey... tomorrow you guys should make yourself useful and solve the game while im gone ok? thanks | ||
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On November 22 2012 16:26 Djodref wrote: That's true, but you could kill me tonight because I'm the only one believe in the fact that you are scum. I don't think that iamp. Kickstart or Hopeless would realize that they have to lynch you if I'm not here. lol don't be ridiculous | ||
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On November 16 2012 10:06 iamperfection wrote: iamperfection- The slayer of hapa the perfect one the perfect town player marvellosity- Do not lynch. Extremely likely to be town. He has been very engaged and his heart is into this case. He obviously know about hapa super case but i honestly think he would be really depressed if he rolled scum again. debars- Very Probably town. Hapa wanted to kill him very badly and almost succeeded. LIke marv been very active and engaged cares about who gets lynched. Kickstart- Likely town. Would have taken quick thinking on his part if he was scum to bus in that quick of a snap which as a very new player i think it would have been very hard for him to do. strongandbig- His VT claim felt natural so gonna go with town. Should be more engaged. funny that he called me lazy before. Cool story bro. DarthPunk- Was the hammer vote on hapa. Could have saved hapa by simply not hopping on the wagon if he was aware. His agression towards me and bh was kind of weird as well as his seemingly angriness after the flip. However i think he may of just be taking offense to being a potential "mislynch" Clarity_nl- i dont really know what to think about him. Has had a good activity but he didnt vote hapa. But i said before thers not much there that i would say is scummy. But i would keep an eye on him. The shut up stuff towards bh when he suggested hapa was obviously not good either. Z-BosoN- i have no idea what to think about him. his coming at me i guess might be good but i didnt really understand his case so he could be trying to create mislynch options??? Also hapa was kind of defending him somewhat when he was a possibility of being lynched. Hopeless1der- Looks really bad for mostly things potentially outside his control in regards to hapa. Hapas wishy washyness twoards him is obviously not good but i think from my first game Hopeless can eventually look pretty townie if he is in town. Judge him by what he does going forward Blazinghand- idiot. Still leaning not scum though. His lynch would bring me enjoyment though but sadly we must try to win don't we. People i would like lynched Crossfire- Ill sheep marv on this one he provided good reasons to explain his bh case out of left field being scummy. thrawn2112- His play is unacceptable. he has another game going like dp but unlike hasn't really bothered to anything. Voted for dp for similar reason i did yet being in the same circumstances as him weird. This guy is also capable of being an activity fiend and hasn't. Dosen't seem to care about much of anything. Really only talking about bh the most in his filter without many comments on other players at all besides dp. pish posh i solved the game here. | ||
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On November 26 2012 03:01 Blazinghand wrote: iamperfection you sly dog you this never happened | ||
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that was me trying to edit out as fast as possible before anyone saw it. I accidentally hit quote instead of edit. | ||
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happy? inb4 perfection jokes | ||
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On November 26 2012 10:43 Blazinghand wrote: dude they were totally buying the dick story I have no idea why you'd want to clear this up this was me basically all day | ||
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