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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 02:14 GMT
#745
We're not lynching me today, which would have been a definite mislynch. If you disagree with the timing of my excellent claim, I understand. I played poorly and was forced to claim D1 as jailkeeper-- the play that led to the circumstance in which the claim was necessary was definitely bad. But the claim itself was good, just and necessary. Marv we'll have to agree to disagree on that.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 02:17 GMT
#746
On November 14 2012 11:13 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 11:10 Blazinghand wrote:
He's pretty unhelpful and posting lots of oneliners without a lot of content, but that's just literally how the man plays. Clarity or Marv can back me up on this. Not sure what to make about the vote vs attacks thing. He's not on my lynch radar for today presently.


who is, then? your two main reads have basically become town or null reads.


Currently Thrawn and Hopeless. It's not really that hopeless isn't active at this moment but that over the course of the first 24 hours he hasn't made any direct attacks-- just asked questions and made mild accusations. I'll have to compare to WLIIA mafia and do some homework to write up a real case. Thrawn for obvious reasons.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 02:19 GMT
#748
Again, we'll have to agree to disagree. We can do so with civility and help move the town along, or we can rage incoherently and be a little shit about it. What are your thoughts on which option we should pick, Marv?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 02:23 GMT
#752
See, there's a reasonable critique of my claim! No swear words, and well thought out. I see that we disagree, and we'll have to agree to disagree. We can discuss it in the post-game rather than clogging up the thread with it. Is that okay?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 02:25 GMT
#754
If you're saying, btw, "blazinghand's claim makes no sense and is scummy" that's a perfectly fine (though wrong) thing to say and we should discuss it now. But if you're saying "blazinghand's claim was bad, even though he is town, so I want to beret him for it, or use constructive criticism to help him improve", I disagree, but it's not useful to discuss it now. So yeah just let me know if you think it's a scummy play, rather than just saying "blazinghand is bad" or whatever and we have something to talk about. How about for now, though, we turn our attention to thrawn?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 02:26 GMT
#756
The fact that I disagree should not be any more mind-boggling than the fact I made the claim in the first place. After all, if I thought it was a bad time to claim, I would have not claimed, right? Given that I did claim, I *must* have thought it a good time to claim. So I don't see how my disagreement with you is any more mind-boggling than the claim itself.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 02:31 GMT
#760
Are we arguing about my claim here, or are we arguing about votecounts in GSL III? Or is this made up? Because I really don't get how you're so "mad" at me. Everyone else managed to move on or critique the play from the "is he scum" perspective, not the "I'm gonna pretend to be mad so I have an excuse not to contribute" perspective. In fact, the marv I know is pretty able to move on and focus on the task at hand. Let's talk about thrawn and see what we have to say about his case. No more hiding from giving reads by being "mad" please.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 02:37 GMT
#763
On November 14 2012 11:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
I wanna lynch darthpunk. I remember his town play as somewhat aggressive and stubborn, and what I'm seeing from him in this game is completely different from that impression. I still think the whole snb 4 votes early on thing was a little silly and probably had scum behind it.

---snip---

Specifically, this is what i'm talking about with dp's tone. This...

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On November 13 2012 15:56 DarthPunk wrote:@blazinghand. Guess I am bad.

...is not what I expect from dp. I expect him to be argumentative and to challenge anyone who accuses him of being wrong.



I'm pretty sure DP was being sarcastic here, rather than submissive.

On November 14 2012 11:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
I don't like his votes/unvotes for snb or the explanations for the votes.

Reasonable

On November 14 2012 11:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
His last voting action was an unvote, and the next 8 posts contain mainly fluff and jokes, not much information that's pertinent to the thread.



The fact that he hasn't taken a position is worrying-- but the joking and fluff are characteristic of his play. See NMMXXVIII

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=370487&currentpage=17#322



On November 14 2012 11:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
Summary: He took the easy vote on snb and was wishy washy about it (voting then unvoting then voting then unvoting) because he knows the vote looks bad. After voting the first time, he unvoted then challenged clarity for doing the exact same thing that dp himself did (hasty bandwagon voting for snb) and then he unvoted for a final time and his filter after that point contains no scumhunting or any of his reads/thoughts.

##Vote: Darthpunk

The other people that voted for snb during that time were hapa, clarity, and boson. With boson... the miller claim didn't seem to come at the right time to be a scum fakeclaim. I'd expect fake claims to come along much later after everyone has been given a chance to post/claim. Hapa, I'm wary of. BH made a comment along the lines of "whoever voted for snb is bad or scum," and hapa is definitely not bad. But he as well as clarity continued giving reads and interacting with the thread after the snb stuff, while dp has been wishywashy with his vote and not talked about much of anything else. The snb bandwagon grew so quickly that I think it's very likely that there were scum behind it, and dp looks scummiest out of all of them. There was his original voting/unvoting, not following through with any reads afterwards and having a fluffy filter, and being extremely peaceful and not willing to get in fights. That's the exact opposite of town dp.


From a meta perspective I don't think this case holds up. Where it does hold up is DP being on the SnB wagon and not contributing significantly afterwards. I'm willing to lynch him based on this, because staking out a semi-position like that could be something scum would do, and he's a good enough candidate otherwise. The SnB wagon definitely had scum on it-- he seemed an easy lynch. I don't think your meta analysis is good though.

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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 02:39 GMT
#764
On November 14 2012 11:33 marvellosity wrote:
i agree not to carry on being mad at you if you promise not to say again a single time that your claim was a good idea.


If someone asks me, I will answer truthfully, but I won't volunteer information if I don't see a need to.

On November 14 2012 11:35 marvellosity wrote:
thrawn dear, where indeed have you been?

The problem is, thrawn, is that my meta read on DarthPunk is the diametric opposite to yours.


from a meta perspective, yes, this is what town DP does, but the fact that he hasn't taken any stances that currently he's maintaining / is accountable for is scummy. I find him worthwhile even if Thrawn's meta case is crap.

I think Thrawn comes out of this looking worse though, because he brought up a meta case that is basically false. I'd like to see more out of DP though, and so they're my two lynch targets right now. Plus you kinda for being such a drama queen.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 02:40 GMT
#766
Hm, actually maybe DP is worth lynching first for his lurking. I'm gonna think on this over dinner.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 02:48 GMT
#771
Why am I deadweight? Yeah I *might* get RBed every night but I can still vote and post and stuff just like anyone else..
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 02:50 GMT
#772
Also I'm not voting debears
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 02:54 GMT
#777
At best I'm jailkeeper and scum doesn't have a roleblocker, and I jail the scum delivering the NK, and we lynch him tomorrow
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 02:55 GMT
#780
kickstart said this over course of reading the thread just now I think, which is why he didn't make an earlier post?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 03:03 GMT
#787
On November 14 2012 11:58 marvellosity wrote:
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On November 14 2012 11:50 Blazinghand wrote:
Also I'm not voting debears


this is not the same debears who in his last newbie game was abnormally excited about reaching a 30 page filter length, and was very very much the centre of attention.


oh i meant literally not in germs of willingness
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 03:04 GMT
#790
like he was all "ur votibg him rkght now right" and i was like nop
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 03:22 GMT
#796
kickstart if you want to voge me be a man Nd do it
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 03:24 GMT
#797
vote me and make a case. or else ykude just wasting all kur time
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 03:29 GMT
#801
what im having is difficulty posting via pho e
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 14 2012 03:33 GMT
#803
kickstart is bad or scum either way he can ne ignored
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