EPTOn November 14 2012 22:54 marvellosity wrote:
iamp, who do you wanna lynch buddy
iamp, who do you wanna lynch buddy
well that should clear things up
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iamperfection
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well that should clear things up | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On November 14 2012 14:46 debears wrote: On iamp Alright guys, I really need someone to give me a good answer on this question, which everyone has failed to do Why would town iamp 1) Switch his vote, agreeing with the case of someone he thought was scummy 30 minutes earlier after 1 case? you idiot I already explained this TL uses military time it was 12 hours and 30 minutes | ||
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marvellosity
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strongandbig
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On November 14 2012 12:39 Blazinghand wrote: anyone who would lynch a claimed blue D1 has serious issues that sir is what's called "pushing your luck" On November 14 2012 13:31 Blazinghand wrote: Thrawn is more right than he's wrong. More stalling, excuses, and mentioning other games in progress from DP. ##unvote ##vote: Darthpunk BH posted this after reading exactly the same explanation from DP that I read, and exactly the same comments on DP's meta from marv as I read, and doing exactly the same amount of work looking into DP's actual scum/town meta as I did (none) - and yet he comes up with a vote? Without at all addressing the points from Marv and from himself about DP's meta? And without addressing the other game in progress issue - which isn't an "unverifiable irl excuse," we can go look at the thread - and yet he comes up with a vote? guys what we have out of BH is not just a scummy and needless claim - we have a scummy and needless claim from a player who isn't playing up to his usual town standard in several ways - bad cases - trolling/fluff while taking the easy opportunity to gain points by attacking other people for fluff and most importantly - the huge mismatch in thread presence, thread control, and town organization between BH's last town game (whose line) and this game And then we have On November 14 2012 12:39 Blazinghand wrote: anyone who would lynch a claimed blue D1 has serious issues BH psychology: he just saw me do well - not win, except for self-declaring victory, but do much better than I should have given how the game started out - he saw me do well by fakeclaiming blue and then really pushing that fakeclaim hard. He also just had what I assume must be a trollgasm from evoking ridiculous reactions from Keirathi in that same game. Now he's claimed blue for no good reason, and it's a blue role that he can "verify" easily by withholding KP, or that he can make unverifiable by claiming to be roleblocked. There's no way a town BH decides "there are 3 or 4 votes on me, like 30 hours before the lynch - time to claim!" I just don't believe that thought process is real. ##vote: blazinghand | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
I think we're getting to the point where we have to consolidate a bit, narrow our focus. As much as I want to lynch BH, I don't think lynching a blue claim day 1 is smart. If he's scum that's great, he definitely might be, but if he flips JK or VT we're fucked. There won't be any useful information for us. @ everyone Is it safe to say that not idiotic lynch candidates are: Thrawn, Darthpunk, Hopeless, Crossfire and MAYBE debears? I've been having a hard time reading hapa, but the cases against him haven't convinced me whatsoever, and looking at his filter myself.... I haven't found anything I would consider scummy, but I definitely don't get a town vibe. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On November 14 2012 22:57 strongandbig wrote: you idiot I already explained this TL uses military time it was 12 hours and 30 minutes sorry debears that was a little harsh. I should have said "lol didn't read" or "fool!" instead of "you idiot." | ||
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strongandbig
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still think he's scum and would possibly be willing to consolidate on him if we need to consolidate but bh is just shouting "hey i'm scummy" at me ##unvote ##vote: blazinghand | ||
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iamperfection
United States9646 Posts
On November 14 2012 23:06 strongandbig wrote: that sir is what's called "pushing your luck" BH posted this after reading exactly the same explanation from DP that I read, and exactly the same comments on DP's meta from marv as I read, and doing exactly the same amount of work looking into DP's actual scum/town meta as I did (none) - and yet he comes up with a vote? Without at all addressing the points from Marv and from himself about DP's meta? And without addressing the other game in progress issue - which isn't an "unverifiable irl excuse," we can go look at the thread - and yet he comes up with a vote? guys what we have out of BH is not just a scummy and needless claim - we have a scummy and needless claim from a player who isn't playing up to his usual town standard in several ways - bad cases - trolling/fluff while taking the easy opportunity to gain points by attacking other people for fluff and most importantly - the huge mismatch in thread presence, thread control, and town organization between BH's last town game (whose line) and this game And then we have BH psychology: he just saw me do well - not win, except for self-declaring victory, but do much better than I should have given how the game started out - he saw me do well by fakeclaiming blue and then really pushing that fakeclaim hard. He also just had what I assume must be a trollgasm from evoking ridiculous reactions from Keirathi in that same game. Now he's claimed blue for no good reason, and it's a blue role that he can "verify" easily by withholding KP, or that he can make unverifiable by claiming to be roleblocked. There's no way a town BH decides "there are 3 or 4 votes on me, like 30 hours before the lynch - time to claim!" I just don't believe that thought process is real. ##vote: blazinghand do you honestly think you can manage to make this happen. He claimed jk with a breadcrumb on day 1 no counter claim his claim timing was wierd from a scum perspective. Yes he hasent played well but its not gonna happen dude, I would take great enjoyment in lynching him but i have come to the conclusion that his claim likely means he is town. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 14 2012 23:06 strongandbig wrote: that sir is what's called "pushing your luck" BH posted this after reading exactly the same explanation from DP that I read, and exactly the same comments on DP's meta from marv as I read, and doing exactly the same amount of work looking into DP's actual scum/town meta as I did (none) - and yet he comes up with a vote? Without at all addressing the points from Marv and from himself about DP's meta? And without addressing the other game in progress issue - which isn't an "unverifiable irl excuse," we can go look at the thread - and yet he comes up with a vote? guys what we have out of BH is not just a scummy and needless claim - we have a scummy and needless claim from a player who isn't playing up to his usual town standard in several ways - bad cases - trolling/fluff while taking the easy opportunity to gain points by attacking other people for fluff and most importantly - the huge mismatch in thread presence, thread control, and town organization between BH's last town game (whose line) and this game And then we have BH psychology: he just saw me do well - not win, except for self-declaring victory, but do much better than I should have given how the game started out - he saw me do well by fakeclaiming blue and then really pushing that fakeclaim hard. He also just had what I assume must be a trollgasm from evoking ridiculous reactions from Keirathi in that same game. Now he's claimed blue for no good reason, and it's a blue role that he can "verify" easily by withholding KP, or that he can make unverifiable by claiming to be roleblocked. There's no way a town BH decides "there are 3 or 4 votes on me, like 30 hours before the lynch - time to claim!" I just don't believe that thought process is real. ##vote: blazinghand ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING??? THERE ARE NO COUNTERCLAIMS FROM A JK/RB, AND YOU WANT TO LYNCH A JK CLAIM DAY 1??? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 14 2012 23:08 strongandbig wrote: oh forgot to unvote debears (I think that's who I was voting?) still think he's scum and would possibly be willing to consolidate on him if we need to consolidate but bh is just shouting "hey i'm scummy" at me ##unvote ##vote: blazinghand While I agree with you that he's scummy, I just don't think the best "technical solution" or what have you is to lynch him today. Do you have any reasons for calling debears scummy other than the Kenpachi rule? | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 14 2012 23:07 strongandbig wrote: sorry debears that was a little harsh. I should have said "lol didn't read" or "fool!" instead of "you idiot." No idiot is justified. I am wayyyy wrong on that. Thankyou for pointing that out. Eh iamp I rescind my arguments on you | ||
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iamperfection
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On November 14 2012 23:11 debears wrote: No idiot is justified. I am wayyyy wrong on that. Thankyou for pointing that out. Eh iamp I rescind my arguments on you good for you dear | ||
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iamperfection
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marvellosity
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On November 14 2012 23:06 Clarity_nl wrote: Marv, how did Hopeless convince you to unvote him? I think we're getting to the point where we have to consolidate a bit, narrow our focus. As much as I want to lynch BH, I don't think lynching a blue claim day 1 is smart. If he's scum that's great, he definitely might be, but if he flips JK or VT we're fucked. There won't be any useful information for us. @ everyone Is it safe to say that not idiotic lynch candidates are: Thrawn, Darthpunk, Hopeless, Crossfire and MAYBE debears? I've been having a hard time reading hapa, but the cases against him haven't convinced me whatsoever, and looking at his filter myself.... I haven't found anything I would consider scummy, but I definitely don't get a town vibe. He did actually seem to have looked at a couple of iamp's games, at least what he said seems true (iamp does say things like "tell me more" a lot). Clarity, you have first hand experience of debears from last game. Tell me about him. How is he like to play with this game compared to last? What has he given you that you were expecting, or what are you missing? Your insight is particularly valuable here. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
Iamp and marv What do you feel about the DP wagon going on? Honestly, I feel that his play is a null tell at this point. I'd be willing to give him a second day to shape up and show some usefulness. Meanwhile, Hopeless has acted like he is contributing and really hasn't done anything | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 14 2012 23:12 iamperfection wrote: just trying the dear on marv want to see how it feels that'll be $10 | ||
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debears
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 14 2012 23:14 marvellosity wrote: He did actually seem to have looked at a couple of iamp's games, at least what he said seems true (iamp does say things like "tell me more" a lot). Clarity, you have first hand experience of debears from last game. Tell me about him. How is he like to play with this game compared to last? What has he given you that you were expecting, or what are you missing? Your insight is particularly valuable here. I was rather unhappy about the accusation of active lurking, two hours in. His activity was on par with both his scum and town play last two games (although as scum he started lurking d2 and on). Then he went super inactive. I guess his explanation will have to do... but I'm not happy with it at all. It's not hard to anticipate you won't be on for a long stretch of time and tell us, but he didn't. Remember when I asked debears what he thought of you, and later I explained it was more for his reaction than for a second pair of eyes on you? In the conversation before I asked him the question he said lecturing is anti-town, and you had just been busy lecturing. I feel that scum would have answered you were leaning scum or null, because it's "inconsistent" to say you're leaning town. The only thing that has stood out when it comes to debears' play is that he hasn't tried to be the leader, but I can't say this is because he's scum, because other explanations are he's been too inactive to try, or the fact that this isn't a newbie game so he doesn't feel the need. From everything I've seen so far I'm not willing to lynch debears. | ||
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