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On November 14 2012 14:20 debears wrote: DP have you read the thread fully yet? Even with a quick glance? I have read the thread through once. But I usually am constantly re-reading through my mafia games. I have forgotten a heap. | ||
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On November 14 2012 14:29 debears wrote: DP any suspicions so far? Slight suspicions on Clarity and S&B. But nothing that I would bring to the thread or push as a lynch. Just small mental notes of watch closely. I am about to go out. I have some time before deadline when I will read some filters and dump some reads in the unhappy circumstance of my lynch. I am not playing as well as I would like. The case on me is understandable. | ||
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Let me tell you what I was doing today. I know people hate this kind of shit. But honestly FU all. I am house sitting for my sister whilst she goes to Vietnam and Thailand for a month. She leaves tomorrow. So I had to pick up the keys and go over the care of her cats and dog. Then my friend who I haven't seen for three years was here so I grabbed lunch with him. I had 4 hours in which I had time to not only post in two games, but do various chores before my friend and several others went out for dinner and drinks. I stayed out till now when it is almost 3am and then I get back completely wasted to post in this damn mafia thread with a bunch of idiots who want to mislynch me. Yes you are idiots. The case is a meta case in which I am deviating from both my scum and my town meta. If I didn't care about being correct I could shit out some cases right now and most likely not get lynched. I can make fucking excuses because they are true and I didn;t have the time to day to do the amount of reading I like to do in both games. So I prioritised the other game. Holy Shit. you know I need to read 4 end game filters in that game right?? And this game is progressing at a million miles an hour. Literally I take 5 minutes to write my defence posts but it would take me hours to read enough to be comfortable pushing a lynch. Because I give a fuck about being right in my reads. Holy shit. that is a town tell if I ever saw one. I am drunk as fuck writing this post at 3 am when I should rightly be in bed because the best thing I can contribute right now.] is to try and prevent my mislynch. Honestly. The meta case against me is complete bullshit because it is a shift of meta for both alignments. Give me one more day to prove my self and to let me shape up. If I don;t you can lynch me. Holy shit this is some bullshit. | ||
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If I wanted to I could shit out some fake case against someone in equal time. Like. I don;t want to do that because I don;t want to mislynch. How hard is this to understand. | ||
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On November 15 2012 01:04 Clarity_nl wrote: So what you're saying is you won't make cases because it requires effort? Dude you are making it so hard on me to not vote for you. No it requires time I don;t have. I am obviously making an effort. It is past 3 am I am drunk and all I want to do is go to sleep. But here I am trying to stop this mislynch. Also. Fucking read what I write. Because the explanation is quite clear and you are twisting my words because you are scum or an idiot. S&B fucking understands that this lynch is wrong TODAY. give me some time to get my shit together. I am not going to fucking make a case or reads when I don;t have any and I DON'T HAVE THE TIME to make really solid correct ones. | ||
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On November 15 2012 01:10 iamperfection wrote: Dont be cry baby about it prove your town by scum hunting. no one really gives a shit about your irl stuff. You are not scumhunting either do so or die at this point. I want to win this game and if your town your not helping me win That is so fucking fallacious. Lynching bad townies does not further your win condition. If you think it does you are fucking terrible. | ||
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On November 15 2012 01:07 debears wrote: Dp I would appreciate if you go ahead and make a read. Irl busy? That's fine. Surely u must have some contribution to make It's 3 am I am tired as fuck. You want me to spend the hours necessary to make an accurate read? It isn't going to happen. how about this though. S&B is probably town. He actually read and comprehended what I said and then does not want to lynch the easy lynch. Not what S&B would do as scum because he hates doing anything anything to jeopardise easy townie lynches as scum. How do I know this? I played scum with him and he went ape shit when we almost derailed an easy mislynch. Blazinghand should not be lynched. He is a claimed JK it is insane to lynch him today. Clarity Is a gut scum read. I couldn't tell you exactly why. but something is off. I plan to look through clarities filter when I get up. Hapa is a town read at this point. as is debears. and I won't fucking vote debears today even if he is my direct counter wagon so put that in your pipe and smoke it If I had to vote right now I would be voting for clarity. But this has not been backed up with the appropriate amount of analysis which is why I was loathe to say shit like this in the first place. | ||
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On November 15 2012 01:16 Clarity_nl wrote: Marv you're gonna have to tell me what this quiz thing was, or maybe refer me to where you did it in another game? I'm intrigued. @ Darth You're not getting lynched today, if you had read the thread you would know this. I have read the thread. Anything is possible. And I am an easy mislynch. For good reason. Doesn;t stop it being a mislynch though | ||
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On November 15 2012 01:21 marvellosity wrote: why are Hapa and debears town reads, DP? Meta. And gut feeling. You are not going to find anything more solid than that I am afraid. I am not as informed as I would like to be and I am only giving these reads out to shut you all up. This is the whole reason I didn't want to really make a read. I am giving you the shit I use privately before I bring anything to the thread. My mental notes if you will. I have them every game and they dictate my workload in terms of reading usually. But as everyone is having a conniption about it that is all you get I am afraid. | ||
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Call the reads in that post my first impressions if you will which is the very simplistic reads I get from my first read of the thread. Usually I go back through and piece more shit together. But as I said I haven;t had time and I want to go to sleep so I will do that now. | ||
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I think thrawn is town. His filter in this game has more solid cases early than his town play in ACME. and I don't see first time scum thrawn being LESS productive. Onwards. I think Clarity is scum. This vote of his onto the S&B wagon felt off. On November 13 2012 10:16 Clarity_nl wrote: Bandwagon time! Please answer why you claimed. ##Vote Strongandbig When I questioned him on such a questionable vote (ironic isn't it) He says he has already explained his reasoning two post previously On November 13 2012 10:10 Clarity_nl wrote: I missed that. strongandbig why did you claim VT, please explain your reasoning. That is hardly a solid reason to vote for someone and when questioned I would expect him to further clarify as I did with both votes. Ok now let's look at some weirdness With clarity. Clarity seems to hold strong convictions and States he will not be swayed until he achieves satisfaction. On November 13 2012 16:52 Clarity_nl wrote: Right now, he's it. Maybe he's a bit too obvious and maybe the fact that no one has defended him, even a little bit, makes it less likely, but he's still it. Just because I said my vote pressures him, does not mean that is solely what my vote it for. It's staying there until he explains himself clearly, luckily we have plenty of time. S&B does not explain any further. Blazinghand puts pressure on those who still have votes on S&B and then we get this On November 13 2012 17:25 Clarity_nl wrote: I understand your reasoning much better now, thanks. As for his meta, it seems he doesn't play like he's been playing this game as either alignment. Here's his Town play. ##unvote So he unvotes someone who was his top scum read, whom he was not going to unvote unless S&B explained himself. And then after some pressure from BH he unvotes sheeping BH's reasoning. On to his case on me On November 14 2012 05:00 Clarity_nl wrote: Yeah.... making a case on Darth isn't working, which I think in itself says a lot. I am surprised more of you didn;t go WTF when you read this I think only HAPA did. But this demonstrates a scum mindset. With me. I start many cases feel that they aren't working and move on maybe saving some things for later. The way he express how he went about his case on me Is how scum feel when making cases. It doesn;t really work but you push through and try to find things that stick. To me this is a quite revealing mindset possessed by clarity. On November 13 2012 16:52 Clarity_nl wrote: If you guys somehow haven't noticed. Take a look at Darth's filter. It's basically a bunch of one-liners, jokes, the occasional null read on others. It doesn't actually help town. The only things that stand out in his filter are him voting for SnB with the comment "so retarded" (which apparantly is a null tell, judging by his previous games, he throws the word around a lot) After I jump on the SnB wagon, he votes for me without explaining. Later on he quotes his own post of him voting for me and explains why, after I explain my reasoning he quickly unvotes me and hops back on SnB. So his read on me is that I haven't been pro town and made some questionable votes with little reasoning. The problem is so did he and he refused to give further reasoning on his votes which I did do both prompted and unprompted and which he knew of when he made this case. I am not accusing him of being scum for doing similar things as me. I am asccusing him because he finds the things we both did scummy which does not seem to be a cohesive mindset. On November 13 2012 15:56 DarthPunk wrote: I am just throwing my vote around trying to see what's up. I think I explained both my votes on him adequately maybe you disagree with the reasons and that is fine. The reason I unvoted S&B the first time was that I voted for Clarity for what I perceived to be an easy jump onto an easy wagon. He gave his explanation, I unvoted and then I re-voted S&B. I cannot find the townie reasoning behind several things S&B has posted thus far. I cannot reconcile using WIFOM about his scum game as townie behaviour and I do not buy the too scummy to be scum shit. I am far from certain about him. But if he is town I want him to shape up. I don;t like using FoS's anymore so a vote it is. @blazinghand. Guess I am bad. He then claims he's just "throwing his vote around", but he doesn't ask questions or make comments about me or SnB. On November 13 2012 16:50 DarthPunk wrote: Eh. I wouldn;t say I had a particularly strong read on S&B. ##Unvote Then why vote for him? Because if it was to pressure, why wouldn't he actually explain why he's voted this way or ask questions? You either vote to lynch or you vote to pressure. But Darth's vote was.... neither? ##Vote DarthPunk[/QUOTE] I find his interpretations of my filter to be manipulative. My votes were obviously to pressure I explained as much. He even quotes my reasoning and then comes out with a conclusion to make his case that 'wasn't working' I do not see any solid reason to then do what clarity did in follow up which was to push and tunnel me hard based on ACTIVITY which was barely mentioned at all originally. This feels like the kind of case that is FORCED and made for the sake of making a case. Something that I refused to do because I want to get shit right. I don;t think clarity cares about being right. I think clarity would have forced a case on me regardless of what was found in my filter. And THAT ladies and gents is freaking scummy. after this case his contributions are fluff and one liners that he apparently hates. he cruises along contributing NOTHING unless prompted by a direct question or pushing his case on me. Generally with a one liner containing no information. He tunnels me for the rest of the cycle once again having his 'convictions' that are dropped to sheep marvs case. Without any real contributions from me in the thread without explaining why I am no longer being voted On November 15 2012 09:09 Clarity_nl wrote: I feel I am at a disadvantage, not having a natural meta awareness about most people in this thread. I do try to read people's older games after I am done reading through their filter, but I just read their filter, which means their posts lose context.. somewhat. That said, marv's case makes a lot of sense. I mean, he used the word propensity, how can I resist. ##Unvote ##Vote Z-BosoN Also look at this post and note how he hints at his newbieness in the opening paragraph which is irrelevant to his Un-vote on me or his vote on ZB. Clarity is scum kids. | ||
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OK. I was not suggesting we switch on to clarity. What I was doing is making a case I was convinced of as I promised. Obviously we are not going to lynch him. Did you see a vote? I don't care if clarity explained something scummy away. It speaks of his mindset and the excuse was weak. @ Perfection. You are probably town based on my meta read on you. If you are not town I don;t think you could keep up the charade for long enough anyway. @Everyone If you are voting for crossfire it is not because you are sure he is scum. It is because he was being bad. it's a coinflip. @Blazinghand. Explain to me how I just 'claimed' scum. Marvs case on ZB is really good. There is a strong correlation between his play this game and his scum game. The same sense of disconnect with the cases he is pushing. I would vote for him or hopeless But I like the case on ZB better ##Vote: Z -Boson | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:22 iamperfection wrote: so you made a case for shits and giggles? NO. It was my strongest scum read. That everyone was asking for. You want me to fucking sheep onto the leading candidates would that make me more townie? seriously. | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:25 Hapahauli wrote: Holy scumslip DP iamp - good stuff ##unvote ##Vote DarthPunk This fucking game. How in the FLYING FUCK is that a scumslip?!?!?!?! It would be anti town to try and persuade the entire town to vote clarity this close to dead line. Also nigh impossible. I am being rational and realistic about my chances of voting my top scumread. Holy balls hapa. | ||
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Lynch Z-Bo and clarity. BH and Hapa need to be looked at closely. Marv is 100% town Debears is my second strongest town read. You got this debears. <3 Perfection town. Crossfire town S&B town Hopeless null Everyone I missed. Null and forgettable apparently. Never been mis-lynched before. I blew chunks this game GO town!!! <# | ||
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On November 15 2012 10:34 iamperfection wrote: DP DO NOT RUN AWAY IF YOUR TOWN. Give reads on the people voting on you. I just did. | ||
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