but it won't improve his town play, only his scumplay, and the chances of rolling scum with someone are quite small. I'd rather his scumplay was catchable :D

you say that now but when you and he roll scum together your heart will be filled with sadness.

Blazinghand

United States25560 Posts

November 23 2012 01:40 GMT

#3883

:-)

Blazinghand

United States25560 Posts

November 23 2012 13:58 GMT

#3900

Can I change my story from "played this bad while trying" to "played this bad but was actually trying to play bad for weird meta reasons"

Blazinghand

United States25560 Posts

November 24 2012 19:03 GMT

#3909

in any case I think the moral of the story here is BH is a sexy beast

Blazinghand

United States25560 Posts

November 25 2012 18:01 GMT

#3915

wat

Blazinghand

United States25560 Posts

November 25 2012 18:01 GMT

#3916

iamperfection you sly dog you

Blazinghand

United States25560 Posts

November 25 2012 18:05 GMT

#3918

your terrible, dark secret is safe with me my friend.

Blazinghand

United States25560 Posts

November 25 2012 18:13 GMT

#3920

no thanks keirathi i know you get around

Blazinghand

United States25560 Posts

November 26 2012 01:24 GMT

#3928

I'm gonna be real here it was a picture of a dick

Blazinghand

United States25560 Posts

November 26 2012 01:31 GMT

#3930

ok i will tell the full truth: it was actually iamp's dick

Blazinghand

United States25560 Posts

November 26 2012 01:32 GMT

#3932

you can tell because it was resting on a laptop keyboard in front of a screen of him being logged in on TL

Blazinghand

United States25560 Posts

November 26 2012 01:38 GMT

#3935

dude iamp I was covering for you and you just told them everything!

Blazinghand

United States25560 Posts

November 26 2012 01:43 GMT

#3938

dude they were totally buying the dick story I have no idea why you'd want to clear this up

Blazinghand

United States25560 Posts

November 27 2012 20:45 GMT

#3944

Oh yeah I forgot to bring this up earlier-- SnB, you are aware why I don't like posting screenshots to "prove" things about your AFK status, right? Basically, forum mafia is forum mafia. When you start taking screenshots or photos, or doing livestreams of you being AFK, we go away from what forum mafia is about and move into the realm of non-forum mafia. Part of what makes mafia the game it is is that scum can reasonably pretend to be/do anything that town would be or do. This is why you can't post screenshots of your role pm, etc-- this isn't something scum can reasonably fake. Well, maybe it is if they have photoshop skills, but then we're not playing mafia, we're playing "photoshop".

When you posted the screenshot of your dota 2 game, you were stepping outside the bounds of the mafia game in a way that makes the game less enjoyable and warps it from what it's supposed to be. It's unsportsmanlike and I find it disappointing that you felt it was appropriate to do something like that. I hope you will refrain from such dishonorable, dishonest actions in any future games we have together-- and I understand that you didn't know what you were doing in this game. If you disagree with me on this matter, please let me know and we can discuss it.

Blazinghand

United States25560 Posts

November 27 2012 21:08 GMT

#3946

I mean, it's "okay" for him to post the screenshot and it's okay for people to criticize it. When people in mafia games mention out-of-game excuses, I just pretend they made no such post. But like, if you think about it the fact that we could even spend time in a mafia game arguing about whether or not a screenshot is weird, or whether or not the amount of time he spent playing dota is weird, is exactly the thing i'm trying to avoid. Yeah if people are posting screenshots and they don't make sense, feel free to call them out for it-- it's your job as a town player to hunt scum. It's just a sad time when hunting scum means addressing the accuracy of a screenshot.

Blazinghand

United States25560 Posts

November 28 2012 02:06 GMT

#3948

It's certainly not against the rules, but it's playing a game that's not mafia. Mentioning out-of-game things in game as excuses for activity is unsportsmanlike. I don't want to play a game that's about seeing if someone's excuse is real or not by trying to figure out if it's photo-shopped or it makes sense. That game isn't mafia, and it isn't what mafia should be about.

Blazinghand

United States25560 Posts

November 28 2012 02:16 GMT

#3951

I don't think saying "I'm gonna be gone for a day" is great but at least it's something that can be analyzed and fit into a read with someone's actions. I personally ignore such statements because they are as easily made by town as by scum-- it's null. It doesn't offend me, it's just not helpful.

I think once people start photographing plane tickets and taking screenshots of dota games, though, they've crossed the line. It may not be against the rules but I find it very distasteful.

Blazinghand

United States25560 Posts

November 28 2012 02:17 GMT

#3952

On November 28 2012 11:16 DarthPunk wrote:

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If people don't want to here excuses about 'inactivity' maybe it shouldn't be brought up so damn often.

I have been accused of being inactive in almost every game I have played. Often it is because of my timezone or other IRL commitments. Should I not explain why I am not in the thread whenever people call me out for it?

Feel free to make explanations for your inactivity, I'll just read through your previous games and see if it's a normal activity level for you. If you post a photo diary of your day I'm gonna be mad though.

Blazinghand

United States25560 Posts

November 28 2012 04:02 GMT

#3955

You're entirely welcome to disagree with my philosophy on excuses and on screenshots/photos. I certainly don't have any rules against either in the games I host, but I find it distasteful and not in the spirit of mafia. I don't think you're the kind of guy who would break your word on this, Marv, but I don't like the idea of running mafia games with some kind of "honor system" about IRL stuff. I just ignore it.

Screenshots and photos I will not ignore, but actively call out as against the spirit of mafia in any game I played. Mafia is a guessing game of epic proportions, not a photoshop game of epic proportions, and definitely not an honor system game of epic proportions.

Blazinghand

United States25560 Posts

November 29 2012 22:05 GMT

#3959

SnB you're entirely welcome to strongly disagree, but that doesn't make you any less wrong. If people play less actively, that's fine, but that's never in up the actual meta cases I make against them. I don't think there's some "problem" where people feel like playing mafia is a duty rather than a game. I will never treat your excuses as legitimate because they never can be.

Mafia should be limited to what goes on in the thread, and when you try to react to bring in out-of-thread information to prove your in-thread activities you are not playing the game because there's no real response to that. And do you really think your personal honor system makes sense? What happens when you have to choose between your honor system and playing to your win-con? Why not lie as scum? I don't buy it for a moment that your system is less restrictive than mine.

I'm infinitely more honest about mafia than you are because I don't mention out-of-game stuff, I don't take photos and screenshots of things to "prove" why I was AFK and I don't derail the thread with it. I'll never be put in a situation where i have to choose between "honor" and my win-con because my philosophy, which is to ignore and treat as null (not scummy or townie) anyone's excuses prevents the out-of-game from interacting with the in-game.

My case against you this game had nothing to do with your activity level, and everything to do with how you spent your time-- tunnelling me uselessly and speculating about the setup with drojef. I don't care about your explanations for being away from the thread, and I never will, except insofar as to rightfully call you out for being dishonest and unsportsmanlike when you turn Mafia into a game of Photoshop.