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marvellosity
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On November 23 2012 08:14 Blazinghand wrote: Yeah read my comments on the last page or two. My gf's grandmother died etc ah. sorry to hear it. I'm most curious how you went from protecting DP over me night 1 to not being sure he was town later. Like, nothing significant had changed. DP pretty much had to be town because of the first cycle. | ||
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marvellosity
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On November 23 2012 08:17 Blazinghand wrote: DP wasn't reading the thread-- I had him as my least townie town read for that. your death reads post was dangerously indecisive. It was sooooo unlikely, like monumentally so, that DP was scum after the day 1 shenannies. "I like DP less, but I think Djo is scummier" was not as strong as I'd hoped, especially as you'd cottoned on to the fact that Djodref's setup speculation basically took days and confirmed players who would end up being confirmed eventually and weren't getting lynched. Like, there were REALLY REALLY GOOD REASONS why DP should be town, and none of these reasons existed for Djo. | ||
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marvellosity
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all's well that ends well, thankfully. | ||
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marvellosity
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On November 23 2012 08:24 DarthPunk wrote: That being said. I think I should be banned or something. It is clearly against the rules to win by making others not want to play. And I'm pretty sure that is what happened here. No, no, this is simply not a correct reflection of events. | ||
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marvellosity
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On November 23 2012 08:34 Z-BosoN wrote: He's aggressive as both alignments. But his play as town is very different as town and as scum in some way I'll leave marv to explain  And give away my secrets?! There was one other thing - although debears got bizarrely sniped, he wasn't checking Djodref that night, when he should have been. Check the replacement almost always, especially if he's replacing some lurker who's on the confirmed, flipped town's "lynch list" | ||
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marvellosity
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On November 23 2012 08:52 DarthPunk wrote: I disagree. But fair enough. Now marv just needs to tell me my meta tell so I can change it. you will roll town most of the time (yes, i know you've been a bit unlucky with scum rolls) so having someone recognise you as town is pretty useful. | ||
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marvellosity
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On November 23 2012 09:01 DarthPunk wrote: Yes but if I can emulate it I can do it as both alignments and then everyone will know I am town regardless of alignment. Right? how does this benefit me?  | ||
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marvellosity
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On November 23 2012 09:27 Clarity_nl wrote: You get to improve the play of others and therefore have a richer experience when you play with them but it won't improve his town play, only his scumplay, and the chances of rolling scum with someone are quite small. I'd rather his scumplay was catchable :D | ||
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marvellosity
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it's quite hard to describe, really. just little behavioural and tonal tells. Kei knows how to read you too, ask him, ask him! | ||
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marvellosity
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Don't jest, some players like Drazerk genuinely believe that's a good thing. He plays terribly on purpose so people can't "meta" him. Don't ask. | ||
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marvellosity
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On November 23 2012 22:58 Blazinghand wrote: Can I change my story from "played this bad while trying" to "played this bad but was actually trying to play bad for weird meta reasons" it'd make me feel better <3 actually apart from the first cycle I don't really think you played badly, maybe like you admitted a little lazily. | ||
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marvellosity
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On November 24 2012 02:40 debears wrote: I think the best strategy in terms of meta is to just post a shit ton 1) It makes you get nked early as town 2) It makes you look scummy day 1 no matter what, but you will never be lynched unless you just completely mess up 3) It allows you as scum to be active with thread presence while still being considered scummy The only downside, as to what Hapa and Marv experience, is that you don't make it past d2/d3 as scum :D But maybe you can bullshit your way out of it i don't really agree with any of this especially as most of my scum games i've been alive to take the win at lylo you get nked early if you're strong and constructive, not because you post a lot | ||
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marvellosity
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On November 24 2012 03:07 Dandel Ion wrote: That'd be the so-called "Oh-god-shut-the-fuck-up bullet" that's where the "wtf" shot on Shady Sands came from in Death Note. He was a clear mislynch target for me as scum but I killed him to stop him posting. No-one in the thread or the obsQT understood the shot at all, and gamewise it was completely suboptimal. | ||
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marvellosity
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On November 26 2012 10:24 Blazinghand wrote: I'm gonna be real here it was a picture of a dick why don't i believe you | ||
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marvellosity
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On November 28 2012 11:06 Blazinghand wrote: It's certainly not against the rules, but it's playing a game that's not mafia. Mentioning out-of-game things in game as excuses for activity is unsportsmanlike. I don't want to play a game that's about seeing if someone's excuse is real or not by trying to figure out if it's photo-shopped or it makes sense. That game isn't mafia, and it isn't what mafia should be about. I only partially agree. If I've been away for some reason or I know I'll be away, I'll say so so that the thread knows. People can take it or leave it. I'd rather just say "I'm travelling today, so I won't be around until tomorrow" than ppl go "omg marv so quiet for so long i wonder wft is up with that shizzle to the nizzle" | ||
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marvellosity
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On November 28 2012 11:16 Blazinghand wrote: I don't think saying "I'm gonna be gone for a day" is great but at least it's something that can be analyzed and fit into a read with someone's actions. I personally ignore such statements because they are as easily made by town as by scum-- it's null. It doesn't offend me, it's just not helpful. I think once people start photographing plane tickets and taking screenshots of dota games, though, they've crossed the line. It may not be against the rules but I find it very distasteful. yeah, i just don't agree with this. like, it's supposed to be null, i'm just making a statement of fact. Obviously you can take inactivity/excuses into a larger read, but overall I much prefer warning the thread of my absences. I've never lied about my absences as either alignment and I never will. | ||
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