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On November 13 2012 11:33 DarthPunk wrote:
Lol marv scolding me is super cute.
i don't do so for my own amusement.
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On November 13 2012 11:34 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 11:33 DarthPunk wrote:
Lol marv scolding me is super cute. i don't do so for my own amusement.
At least it amuses someone 
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Whats everybody think of bh he is like a very good player when he is town from what i saw and here he really hasent done anything despite being here tell me what you guys think.
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On November 13 2012 11:30 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 11:24 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 13 2012 11:21 debears wrote:On November 13 2012 11:16 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 13 2012 11:14 debears wrote:On November 13 2012 11:11 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 13 2012 11:10 debears wrote:On November 13 2012 11:08 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 13 2012 11:07 debears wrote:On November 13 2012 11:05 marvellosity wrote:
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aren't you the same dude who told hapa it didn't matter who crossfire was from before because all we need is behavioural analysis?
Because hapa's talk about was whether he is a smurf, which we cannot tell right now, due to his lack of posting He was asking if anyone knew if he was a smurf. You didn't say "we don't know", you said "doesn't matter" Yeah it doesn't matter since looking about behavior is usually a better indicator than meta. We can't know unless he comes out and starts posting like someone the vets recognize. So why discuss it? But you just made a post, with the only question being about someone's meta. On November 13 2012 11:04 debears wrote:On November 13 2012 11:01 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 13 2012 10:55 debears wrote:On November 13 2012 10:53 Hopeless1der wrote:
What good did that question do for town? I'm trying to figure out wtf you are doing coming in out of nowhere and lecturing someone early d1. In fact, lecturing everyone for their scumhunting. What have you done? ##Unvote
##Vote Hopeless1der DP calls out marv because multiple people were actively lurking and you singling out clarity was unfair. I was also lurking, and DP implies you were "trying your hardest", whereas you have said: On November 13 2012 10:48 debears wrote:On November 13 2012 10:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
I think debears is just mucking up the thread hard, but that's apparently just what he does? pretty much what marv said again for myself on the active lurking. Eh. It's early d1. Give me about 10 more hours before the good stuff comes out. And yeah guys didn't realize it's only 2 hours at this point.... And yeah marv that's why my vote is still on u! Did we catch the scums yet? Did 10 hours pass when I wasnt looking? ^^^^^Can someone tell me if this is how hopeless is? Why? Because the question hapa asked was if cross was a smurf. Ffs. That came before Marv's "crossfire is just crossfire" Please keep my posts in context Yes I realize he asked before marv answered. How are your quotes not in context? You answer Hapa by saying it doesn't matter who he is, because reads within the current game are more important. But just now you asked about someone's meta, contradicting yourself. Please tell me where I am wrong. Alright, let me spell it out for you 1) Hapa asked if cross was smurf 2) I said there was nothing to discuss about him being smurf, since he hadn't posted much 3) Marv says cross is cross So, my point was that you can't make a basis whether he is indeed a smurf until he posts enough so that vet's recognize him. That makes discussing it early irrelevant. Now, 1) Hopeless comes in lecturing (anti-town) 2) I ask whether it fits his meta 3) You jump on me saying it's a contradiction to what I said It isn't a contradiction. Behavior > meta, especially if players are aware of their meta. Now, if behavior is totally against a player's town meta, and that behavior is scummy, then there are alarms that go off If it is the behaviour compared to different games, that's meta. That's what meta means. Hapa asked if anyone knew if cross was a smurf. Why is there nothing to discuss? If you don't know he's a smurf or not you simply don't answer. If you do you do. Marv answered because he knew, case closed. The part I don't understand is why you say it's not important. No one was talking about deducting who he is, assuming he's a smurf.
I look at behavior first, then meta to support. What do those last two sentences mean? Can you rephrase them? There was nothing to discuss because cross (who hapa asked if was smurf) hadn't posted much, and still hasn't http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16886690Read here plz. Notice how I post right after Hapa
I'll accept that what you meant was "regardless of who he is, since he hasn't posted there is no read to make"... I guess
But either you didn't understand Hapa's question or you are being hypocritical by asking for a meta summary.
Maybe clarify why you asked for it?
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On November 13 2012 11:37 iamperfection wrote:
Whats everybody think of bh he is like a very good player when he is town from what i saw and here he really hasent done anything despite being here tell me what you guys think.
I agree wholeheartedly, in Rock Band he came out all guns blazing (no pun intended) whereas the opposite is true here. I expect great things from him when he comes back to the thread, that's for sure.
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On November 13 2012 11:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 11:37 iamperfection wrote:
Whats everybody think of bh he is like a very good player when he is town from what i saw and here he really hasent done anything despite being here tell me what you guys think. I agree wholeheartedly, in Rock Band he came out all guns blazing (no pun intended) whereas the opposite is true here. I expect great things from him when he comes back to the thread, that's for sure.
dont lie you intended that pun.
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actually, I didn't, I typed it and then realised. So there
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On November 13 2012 11:38 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 11:30 debears wrote:On November 13 2012 11:24 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 13 2012 11:21 debears wrote:On November 13 2012 11:16 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 13 2012 11:14 debears wrote:On November 13 2012 11:11 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 13 2012 11:10 debears wrote:On November 13 2012 11:08 Clarity_nl wrote:On November 13 2012 11:07 debears wrote:
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Because hapa's talk about was whether he is a smurf, which we cannot tell right now, due to his lack of posting He was asking if anyone knew if he was a smurf. You didn't say "we don't know", you said "doesn't matter" Yeah it doesn't matter since looking about behavior is usually a better indicator than meta. We can't know unless he comes out and starts posting like someone the vets recognize. So why discuss it? But you just made a post, with the only question being about someone's meta. On November 13 2012 11:04 debears wrote:On November 13 2012 11:01 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 13 2012 10:55 debears wrote:
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I'm trying to figure out wtf you are doing coming in out of nowhere and lecturing someone early d1. In fact, lecturing everyone for their scumhunting.
What have you done?
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##Vote Hopeless1der DP calls out marv because multiple people were actively lurking and you singling out clarity was unfair. I was also lurking, and DP implies you were "trying your hardest", whereas you have said: On November 13 2012 10:48 debears wrote:
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Eh. It's early d1. Give me about 10 more hours before the good stuff comes out.
And yeah guys didn't realize it's only 2 hours at this point....
And yeah marv that's why my vote is still on u! Did we catch the scums yet? Did 10 hours pass when I wasnt looking? ^^^^^Can someone tell me if this is how hopeless is? Why? Because the question hapa asked was if cross was a smurf. Ffs. That came before Marv's "crossfire is just crossfire" Please keep my posts in context Yes I realize he asked before marv answered. How are your quotes not in context? You answer Hapa by saying it doesn't matter who he is, because reads within the current game are more important. But just now you asked about someone's meta, contradicting yourself. Please tell me where I am wrong. Alright, let me spell it out for you 1) Hapa asked if cross was smurf 2) I said there was nothing to discuss about him being smurf, since he hadn't posted much 3) Marv says cross is cross So, my point was that you can't make a basis whether he is indeed a smurf until he posts enough so that vet's recognize him. That makes discussing it early irrelevant. Now, 1) Hopeless comes in lecturing (anti-town) 2) I ask whether it fits his meta 3) You jump on me saying it's a contradiction to what I said It isn't a contradiction. Behavior > meta, especially if players are aware of their meta. Now, if behavior is totally against a player's town meta, and that behavior is scummy, then there are alarms that go off If it is the behaviour compared to different games, that's meta. That's what meta means. Hapa asked if anyone knew if cross was a smurf. Why is there nothing to discuss? If you don't know he's a smurf or not you simply don't answer. If you do you do. Marv answered because he knew, case closed. The part I don't understand is why you say it's not important. No one was talking about deducting who he is, assuming he's a smurf.
I look at behavior first, then meta to support. What do those last two sentences mean? Can you rephrase them? There was nothing to discuss because cross (who hapa asked if was smurf) hadn't posted much, and still hasn't http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16886690Read here plz. Notice how I post right after Hapa I'll accept that what you meant was "regardless of who he is, since he hasn't posted there is no read to make"... I guess But either you didn't understand Hapa's question or you are being hypocritical by asking for a meta summary. Maybe clarify why you asked for it?
......i'll explain it one more time
1) Hopeless comes in lecturing, which is anti town (remember your scumbuddy sylver last game?)
2) Hopeless had not scumhunted up to that point
3) Hopeless remarks about my "10 hours for a good case" post
No reason to engage in super heated flame war at this point. Thus, I wanted to know if he is that aggressive/lecturing normally, specifically as town
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On November 13 2012 11:37 iamperfection wrote:
Whats everybody think of bh he is like a very good player when he is town from what i saw and here he really hasent done anything despite being here tell me what you guys think.
Give him a chance. He is one of those guys I would 100% never lynch day one because the benefits of him being town vastly out weigh the risks of him being scum.
From what I have heard around the grapevine however he is fairly easy to read as scum so we should be fine to take a look at him later on in the game.
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Hey guys where the fuck is thrawn???????
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On November 13 2012 11:40 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 11:37 iamperfection wrote:
Whats everybody think of bh he is like a very good player when he is town from what i saw and here he really hasent done anything despite being here tell me what you guys think. Give him a chance. He is one of those guys I would 100% never lynch day one because the benefits of him being town vastly out weigh the risks of him being scum. From what I have heard around the grapevine however he is fairly easy to read as scum so we should be fine to take a look at him later on in the game.
you kidding? I'd lynch him day 1 in a heartbeat if I thought he was scum.
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On November 13 2012 09:48 iamperfection wrote:
Can you add the filters to the player list pretty please
Done. Was away for an hour or two, sorry <3
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On November 13 2012 11:42 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 11:40 DarthPunk wrote:On November 13 2012 11:37 iamperfection wrote:
Whats everybody think of bh he is like a very good player when he is town from what i saw and here he really hasent done anything despite being here tell me what you guys think. Give him a chance. He is one of those guys I would 100% never lynch day one because the benefits of him being town vastly out weigh the risks of him being scum. From what I have heard around the grapevine however he is fairly easy to read as scum so we should be fine to take a look at him later on in the game. you kidding? I'd lynch him day 1 in a heartbeat if I thought he was scum.
Well. That is fine. But I am not going to lynch him day one when he is a very good town player and the only case against him so far is that he is lurking.
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On November 13 2012 11:40 debears wrote:
Hopeless comes in lecturing, which is anti town (remember your scumbuddy sylver last game?)
What do you think of marv so far?
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On November 13 2012 11:44 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 11:42 marvellosity wrote:On November 13 2012 11:40 DarthPunk wrote:On November 13 2012 11:37 iamperfection wrote:
Whats everybody think of bh he is like a very good player when he is town from what i saw and here he really hasent done anything despite being here tell me what you guys think. Give him a chance. He is one of those guys I would 100% never lynch day one because the benefits of him being town vastly out weigh the risks of him being scum. From what I have heard around the grapevine however he is fairly easy to read as scum so we should be fine to take a look at him later on in the game. you kidding? I'd lynch him day 1 in a heartbeat if I thought he was scum. Well. That is fine. But I am not going to lynch him day one when he is a very good town player and the only case against him so far is that he is lurking.
The night (or day in terms of our game i guess!) is young, I wouldn't call anyone a lurker just yet. But I agree with marv that people who give off scum vibes should get the vote and find it odd that you are basically stating that you wouldn't vote for him no matter what ;o.
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This is getting buried, so again:
On November 13 2012 11:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
Is the way debears confused 'small amount of games' with 'unreadable' scummy? He did it AFTER he was supposedly aware that cross has played before. or would you consider them the same thing?
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On November 13 2012 11:47 Kickstart wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 11:44 DarthPunk wrote:On November 13 2012 11:42 marvellosity wrote:On November 13 2012 11:40 DarthPunk wrote:On November 13 2012 11:37 iamperfection wrote:
Whats everybody think of bh he is like a very good player when he is town from what i saw and here he really hasent done anything despite being here tell me what you guys think. Give him a chance. He is one of those guys I would 100% never lynch day one because the benefits of him being town vastly out weigh the risks of him being scum. From what I have heard around the grapevine however he is fairly easy to read as scum so we should be fine to take a look at him later on in the game. you kidding? I'd lynch him day 1 in a heartbeat if I thought he was scum. Well. That is fine. But I am not going to lynch him day one when he is a very good town player and the only case against him so far is that he is lurking. The night (or day in terms of our game i guess!) is young, I wouldn't call anyone a lurker just yet. But I agree with marv that people who give off scum vibes should get the vote and find it odd that you are basically stating that you wouldn't vote for him no matter what ;o.
Yep. I would not. I would not vote day one for Hapa or marv either. Unless there was something super obvious I would not vote for them. But I do not think that would happen because they are all good players and that is why I respect them I suppose.
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Everyone seems to have gone quiet. It's 4 am so I'm going to bed.
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New votecount bitch reporting in here:
strongandbig (4): Z-BosoN, Clarity_nl, Hapahauli, Darthpunk
debears (1): strongandbig
Hopeless1der (1): debears
Blazinghand (1): iamperfection
Not voting (6): marvellosity, thrawn2112, Blazinghand, Hopeless1der, Kickstart, Crossfire99
Currently, strongandbig is set to be lynched! 46.4 hours remaining in Day 1.
Full version:
+ Show Spoiler +strongandbig (3): DarthPunk, Z-BosoN, Clarity_nl, Hapahauli
Clarity_nl (1): DarthPunk
debears (1): Z-Boson, strongandbig
Blazinghand (1): iamperection
Hopeless1der (1): debears
Darthpunk (0): Hapahauli Hapahauli
Hapahauli (0): iamperfection, strongandbig
marvellosity (0): debears
Not voting (6): marvellosity, thrawn2112, Blazinghand, Hopeless1der, Kickstart, Crossfire99
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EPT
