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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 21 2012 10:53 GMT
#3582
On November 21 2012 19:50 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 19:41 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 21 2012 19:39 Djodref wrote:
On November 21 2012 19:35 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 21 2012 19:27 DarthPunk wrote:
Ok, seeing as no one is talking all that much I am out. Hopefully we can get a load of info in the thread an hour before deadline.


why not now? scum's shoot me anyways


Yeah, I think you are right, given Hopeless level of participation, you are more likely to be NKed tonight.


He says as he sends in his night action.


Could you get off my back for a minute ? This is pissing me off and I would like to stay rational right now...


you tunnel others then cry when you get tunnelled? watever, ill lay off til tomorrow.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 22 2012 00:05 GMT
#3608
Why do you like me less? is it because I am mean?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 22 2012 00:12 GMT
#3609
On November 22 2012 05:27 iamperfection wrote:
same question to you dp what are your reasons now i dont feel like digging through your filter to figure it out


I think he is town for pretty much the exact reason I think you are town. Meta. Some modicum of scumhunting. Meta.

The only thing you have over him is that you were pretty heavily involved in the hapa lynch. <3

That being said I have had a town read on S&B for a LONG time. I think Djo only just admitted he had one on him. He had a vote parked on him for a LONG time.

Djo is the last scum.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 22 2012 00:14 GMT
#3611
On November 22 2012 09:12 Blazinghand wrote:
no its cuz u r australn


T_T
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 22 2012 00:15 GMT
#3612
Anyway GYM time again. See you all later.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 22 2012 02:40 GMT
#3628
On November 22 2012 11:16 Blazinghand wrote:
everything I did, I did for my people.


DarthPunk likes this.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 22 2012 02:41 GMT
#3629
##Vote Djodref
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 22 2012 02:42 GMT
#3630
On November 22 2012 11:09 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 09:12 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 22 2012 05:27 iamperfection wrote:
same question to you dp what are your reasons now i dont feel like digging through your filter to figure it out


I think he is town for pretty much the exact reason I think you are town. Meta. Some modicum of scumhunting. Meta.

The only thing you have over him is that you were pretty heavily involved in the hapa lynch. <3

That being said I have had a town read on S&B for a LONG time. I think Djo only just admitted he had one on him. He had a vote parked on him for a LONG time.

Djo is the last scum.



I'm so jealous..
I didn't get my meta case :s


I don't need Meta to know you are scum.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 22 2012 02:52 GMT
#3632
On November 22 2012 11:49 Kickstart wrote:
If djo was jked would he have been able to kill bh?


Yes. Because Scum RB takes priority. He get's roleblocked first and then can't jail. That is why when he jailed me and he was roleblocked I recieed no notification.

He jailed Djo because he thought he was scum and if he was not roleblocked it would have prevented a nightkill.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 22 2012 02:52 GMT
#3633
Also. I just hit 2k. Am now a DT. YAY!
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 22 2012 03:45 GMT
#3644
On November 22 2012 12:28 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 11:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 22 2012 11:09 Djodref wrote:
On November 22 2012 09:12 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 22 2012 05:27 iamperfection wrote:
same question to you dp what are your reasons now i dont feel like digging through your filter to figure it out


I think he is town for pretty much the exact reason I think you are town. Meta. Some modicum of scumhunting. Meta.

The only thing you have over him is that you were pretty heavily involved in the hapa lynch. <3

That being said I have had a town read on S&B for a LONG time. I think Djo only just admitted he had one on him. He had a vote parked on him for a LONG time.

Djo is the last scum.



I'm so jealous..
I didn't get my meta case :s


I don't need Meta to know you are scum.


Yet, that's what you mainly used in your cases against Z-Bo, that's what you use to decide that S&B is town.
The reason why there is no meta case against me, it's because you cannot write one, because I'm town and you know it.


You are full of shit and I know it.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 22 2012 03:47 GMT
#3645
The correct play is to lynch S&B today though. As much as it pains me to say it, and as much as I doubt he will flip red.

##Unvote

##Vote:S&B

I am listening to players whom I respect and have often been right where I have been wrong.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 22 2012 04:02 GMT
#3648
On November 22 2012 12:49 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 12:47 DarthPunk wrote:
The correct play is to lynch S&B today though. As much as it pains me to say it, and as much as I doubt he will flip red.

##Unvote

##Vote:S&B

I am listening to players whom I respect and have often been right where I have been wrong.


Why would it be the correct play ?
Why don't you try to convince the other town members that he is town and that I'm scum ?


Because, as you say he is an easy mislynch at mylo. Both Marv and Blazinghand told us to lynch him and they are much better players than me.

I am not so arrogant to think that I cannot be wrong in my read of him ESPECIALLY when that read is in direct conflict with much better players than myself.

Also this ruins any plans you had of an easy S&B mislynch at MYLO which makes me happy if he is in fact town and you are scum like I think.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 22 2012 04:26 GMT
#3652
On November 22 2012 13:14 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 11:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Oh. If there is a DT you should check BH.

Why did you suggest this dp you had recently had said this just a bit earlier in the thread

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 10:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 16 2012 10:32 marvellosity wrote:
I am clearly town and a bigger asset (sorry DP)


Not offended at all it is true. But you are not clearly town so stop putting that Idea into peoples heads right now.

Also. Blazing hand would be fucking insane to fake claim JK day 1 as scum or as fucking SK. he is JK. So Marv as much as you would like to believe he is scum he is not and you are going to have to deal with that and use your 'assets' elsewhere.



You came to this conclusion after long spouting off the bh was scum.

Then shortly after you suggested a dt check

Whats the deal ?

Trying to waste the cops investigations ?


I was freaking paranoid about a BH fakeclaim. I am actually relieved in a way that he died tonight because it makes things much simpler.

I didn't say anything about it earlier because I wanted scum to kill BH like they are supposed to and not have a situation were BH was alive at MYLO and make us all freak out.

If he had not died tonight I would probably have said something along the lines of why isn't he dead yet? And started asking the questions that were never asked in my last game.



"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 22 2012 04:31 GMT
#3654
On November 22 2012 13:13 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 13:02 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 22 2012 12:49 Djodref wrote:
On November 22 2012 12:47 DarthPunk wrote:
The correct play is to lynch S&B today though. As much as it pains me to say it, and as much as I doubt he will flip red.

##Unvote

##Vote:S&B

I am listening to players whom I respect and have often been right where I have been wrong.


Why would it be the correct play ?
Why don't you try to convince the other town members that he is town and that I'm scum ?


Because, as you say he is an easy mislynch at mylo.Both Marv and Blazinghand told us to lynch him and they are much better players than me.

I am not so arrogant to think that I cannot be wrong in my read of him ESPECIALLY when that read is in direct conflict with much better players than myself.

Also this ruins any plans you had of an easy S&B mislynch at MYLO which makes me happy if he is in fact town and you are scum like I think.


I don't trust the opinions of dead people. That's the lamest excuse to justify a lynch. Marv died after N1 and he missed a big part of this game. BH might be a better player than you but his play was far from stellar during this game.
And I know you are a very capable player, especially when it's a matter of pulling off solo victory as mafia.




The opinions of dead people are really useful. especially from players like marv and BH. It's not a lame excuse. It is the correct play as everyone in the thread knows. If S& is town he probably think that as well, even when it is his arse on the line.

Yeah. I am pretty good at playing scum I guess. That doesn't make me scum. In fact. I would argue that if I was scum I would have manoeuvred into a far better position than I currently enjoy.

But that is WIFOM so not a good argument. I love how I am scum regardless of my actions. If I didn;t vote S&B you would be ranting about how I am not lynching S&B (even though you are doing the same thing whilst calling me scum for it)

Now that I am there is some more bullshit about how it makes me scum.

It is also interesting how you try to discredit death posts, when any rational player does the opposite. Perhaps that is because BH called you out in his as scummier than me.

ROFL you are so transparent.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 22 2012 04:35 GMT
#3657
On November 22 2012 13:29 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 13:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 22 2012 13:14 iamperfection wrote:
On November 16 2012 11:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Oh. If there is a DT you should check BH.

Why did you suggest this dp you had recently had said this just a bit earlier in the thread

On November 16 2012 10:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 16 2012 10:32 marvellosity wrote:
I am clearly town and a bigger asset (sorry DP)


Not offended at all it is true. But you are not clearly town so stop putting that Idea into peoples heads right now.

Also. Blazing hand would be fucking insane to fake claim JK day 1 as scum or as fucking SK. he is JK. So Marv as much as you would like to believe he is scum he is not and you are going to have to deal with that and use your 'assets' elsewhere.



You came to this conclusion after long spouting off the bh was scum.

Then shortly after you suggested a dt check

Whats the deal ?

Trying to waste the cops investigations ?


I was freaking paranoid about a BH fakeclaim. I am actually relieved in a way that he died tonight because it makes things much simpler.

I didn't say anything about it earlier because I wanted scum to kill BH like they are supposed to and not have a situation were BH was alive at MYLO and make us all freak out.

If he had not died tonight I would probably have said something along the lines of why isn't he dead yet? And started asking the questions that were never asked in my last game.




We knew from setup speculation that bh was already the jk... Your paranoia was not justified.


no. I read that set-up shit. It was possible that there were only 2 blues and no roleblocker. If there was no roleblocker that would have made a fake JK claim far less risky for scum.

Scum BH could have been a goon. Fake claimed RB and lied about being roleblocked for eternity. There were no roleblock claims at all. There was no evidence of a scum RB apart from the word of BH.

I was very paranoid about it and I am relieved I no longer have to be.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 22 2012 04:37 GMT
#3658
On November 22 2012 13:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
you quoted him talking to marv, perfect one. We didn't crack the setup until Z-Bo's flip.


Even then It could have been a 5T setup with SK removed. I was worried about it. Now I don't have to be.

Tell me if BH had survived to MYLO and say Iamp and Hopeless had been killed without BH dying you wouldn't have been worried.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 22 2012 04:49 GMT
#3661
Right, well I did not access that information.

So I guess my fears were unwarranted. HOWEVER that does not mean I was not worried and at the time I asked for a DT check I had the same thoughts and he was NOT confirmed.

I know Djo will push this being scummy. But is it really?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 22 2012 04:59 GMT
#3664
On November 22 2012 13:52 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 13:35 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 22 2012 13:29 iamperfection wrote:
On November 22 2012 13:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 22 2012 13:14 iamperfection wrote:
On November 16 2012 11:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Oh. If there is a DT you should check BH.

Why did you suggest this dp you had recently had said this just a bit earlier in the thread

On November 16 2012 10:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 16 2012 10:32 marvellosity wrote:
I am clearly town and a bigger asset (sorry DP)


Not offended at all it is true. But you are not clearly town so stop putting that Idea into peoples heads right now.

Also. Blazing hand would be fucking insane to fake claim JK day 1 as scum or as fucking SK. he is JK. So Marv as much as you would like to believe he is scum he is not and you are going to have to deal with that and use your 'assets' elsewhere.



You came to this conclusion after long spouting off the bh was scum.

Then shortly after you suggested a dt check

Whats the deal ?

Trying to waste the cops investigations ?


I was freaking paranoid about a BH fakeclaim. I am actually relieved in a way that he died tonight because it makes things much simpler.

I didn't say anything about it earlier because I wanted scum to kill BH like they are supposed to and not have a situation were BH was alive at MYLO and make us all freak out.

If he had not died tonight I would probably have said something along the lines of why isn't he dead yet? And started asking the questions that were never asked in my last game.




We knew from setup speculation that bh was already the jk... Your paranoia was not justified.


no. I read that set-up shit. It was possible that there were only 2 blues and no roleblocker. If there was no roleblocker that would have made a fake JK claim far less risky for scum.

Scum BH could have been a goon. Fake claimed RB and lied about being roleblocked for eternity. There were no roleblock claims at all. There was no evidence of a scum RB apart from the word of BH.

I was very paranoid about it and I am relieved I no longer have to be.


This post shows that
  • Either DP doesn't care about all the work S&B and me have put in to figure out the setup because it shows that he might have read it but not understood our conclusions
  • Either DP has understood our conclusions but he doesn't acknowledge them because he cannot afford to recognize that we were actively helping town at that time



Get off your damn High horse. After all that set-up speculation that 'solved' everything you posted this

On November 19 2012 02:20 Djodref wrote:
@ S&B

Would you agree that if our setup is TTTTT and that BH is SK then he automatically loses this game ?
I mean, you have a "confirmed" JK going into MYLO or LYLO, getting role blocked every night with no evidence of any other blue role, then this "confirmed" JK has to go.



BH at LYLO + no other blue (dead or alive) = automatically lynch BH




If people remember this, then we can safely forget the TTTTT setup for the moment


Now you are all over me for thinking of something similar and are painting me as scummy for it. You are the biggest hypocrite EVER.

Also you are being frivolous with the facts and manipulative.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 22 2012 05:00 GMT
#3665
On November 22 2012 13:43 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 13:37 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 22 2012 13:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
you quoted him talking to marv, perfect one. We didn't crack the setup until Z-Bo's flip.


Even then It could have been a 5T setup with SK removed. I was worried about it. Now I don't have to be.

Tell me if BH had survived to MYLO and say Iamp and Hopeless had been killed without BH dying you wouldn't have been worried.


I would have been not be worried at all, I would have voted the other guy without a blink and said GG.
Did you download the tool that Keir use to generate this setup ?

I recommend you to go read this page : Keirathi PUBLIC discussion about his setup

BH was 100% confirmed !


Which makes THIS a fucking lie.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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