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debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 01:42 GMT
#132
Yeah i am. He calls me a liar in red and then peaces out without wanting to hear my thoughts. Aint that scummy? Considering how active he was around lynch time last game, which was only an hour before this
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 01:42 GMT
#133
Ninjad

Nvm on the peace out
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 01:45 GMT
#138
Ah so you were going to bed, saw i actually responded when you were lurking, aka not sleeping, and now are going to sleep. That's great.

If you arent oblivious and actually look at my other games, i missed lynches cuz of irl. Odd that you don't acknowledge that
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 01:55 GMT
#142
On October 31 2012 10:12 Alsn wrote:
Anyway, I really need to sleep. I promise that I will read and consider everything. It's just that if rolling the dice is the only option left, I'd rather it be a roll that I consider at least somewhat likely to have a good result.



I rescind my argument on the bed thing. Consistent with last game.

Btw my town meta is far from established. This is only my second game as town. And also my town meta was very different from my play last game, if you bothered to read the obs qt.

I never said unconditionally forgive. It was a heads up. You're twistingmy words
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:03 GMT
#145
Yeah. Rereading what you said alsn it wasnt the greatest fos

Whyd you put lie in red text :/

The statement itself was weak "basically a lie" yet the red text in lie made it appear much more emphatic
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:07 GMT
#148
@djo

Why are you addressing lurker policy still while me and alsn are arguing?

Afraid to jump in and actually talk about something that doesnt make you commit?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:09 GMT
#149
On November 03 2012 11:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Debears you seem really paranoid.

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 10:42 debears wrote:
Yeah i am. He calls me a liarin red and then peaces out without wanting to hear my thoughts. Aint that scummy? Considering how active he was around lynch time last game, which was only an hour before this


He didn't call you, Debears the person, a liar. You're taking Alsn's nit-pick of a post awfully personally.

The quick, useless FoS is also the same exact tactic you used last game. Old hat, Debears, old hat.


1) i don't wear a hat
2) i rescind my argument. The red text threw me off
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:19 GMT
#158
On November 03 2012 11:16 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:07 debears wrote:
@djo

Why are you addressing lurker policy still while me and alsn are arguing?

Afraid to jump in and actually talk about something that doesnt make you commit?


@ debears

Your statement was incorrect, Alsn called you for it. Your FoS was a bit overreacting in my opinion.
I didn't like him using the red font neither but he has his reasons for it. Last game was horrible for us.


What does last game have to do with the argument between me and Alsn?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:20 GMT
#159
On November 03 2012 11:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:09 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Debears you seem really paranoid.

On November 03 2012 10:42 debears wrote:
Yeah i am. He calls me a liarin red and then peaces out without wanting to hear my thoughts. Aint that scummy? Considering how active he was around lynch time last game, which was only an hour before this


He didn't call you, Debears the person, a liar. You're taking Alsn's nit-pick of a post awfully personally.

The quick, useless FoS is also the same exact tactic you used last game. Old hat, Debears, old hat.


1) i don't wear a hat

2) i rescind my argument. The red text threw me off


Scumtell.


Howso?


Mafia usually wear hats. He's so adamant that he most certainly does NOT wear a hat. Therefore, scumtell.


I thought you were gonna come out with some kind of awesome flavor theory. Dissapointed.
On others I'd point your joking attitude out as scum but I mean, you're Mr Cheesecake.
Anyone stand out to you so far?


I didn't joke at all last game, apart from a few trollish posts at the end hehe. I just think Debears is playing his scumgame from the last game right to the T. Aggressive opener, meaningless FoS. He also explicitly mentions that he's town and is being called a liar (someone saying you lied =/= being a liar).


No. That's wrong. Saying you lied means you are lying. If you are lying, you are a liar. Odd that you are saying that
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:23 GMT
#162
On November 03 2012 11:17 Obzy wrote:
@debears - Your reaction really does seem out of place, when I'm rereading. I've been refreshing constantly, trying to read everything and make a useful post, but nothing really seemed like it would contribute to a discussion, and I don't want to have pointless posts for the sake of "being active". Contributing, not spamming.

Upon looking at it that way, your posts and being interested in Alsn's word choice is surprisingly defensive. Given that there wasn't really any way for other players to pop their heads in and comment without semi-defusing the situation saying "it wasn't that big of a deal", why hold onto it? Quite specifically,
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 10:35 debears wrote:
Anyways what's your guys thoughts on alsns post?
- why ask something like that? I didn't really think it worth paying any mind to, but you kept going on it.

(And now, just above, you're asking djo why he didn't get involved in your argument - I didn't want to get involved either, it seemed largely purposeless.)

jesus i type this post, read for spelling mistakes, reopen a new browser to make sure i'm not missing some sort of new information and fucking blammo like 5 posts


I wanted people to comment on the alsn post to move off lurker discussion.

And yeah its weird that you dont want to comment on an argument. If I'm wrong, tell me why. I'm a sensible person.. i usually listen to points, especially good points, unless i clearly think you are mafia
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:27 GMT
#166
On November 03 2012 11:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:09 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Debears you seem really paranoid.

On November 03 2012 10:42 debears wrote:
Yeah i am. He calls me a liarin red and then peaces out without wanting to hear my thoughts. Aint that scummy? Considering how active he was around lynch time last game, which was only an hour before this


He didn't call you, Debears the person, a liar. You're taking Alsn's nit-pick of a post awfully personally.

The quick, useless FoS is also the same exact tactic you used last game. Old hat, Debears, old hat.


1) i don't wear a hat

2) i rescind my argument. The red text threw me off


Scumtell.


Howso?


Mafia usually wear hats. He's so adamant that he most certainly does NOT wear a hat. Therefore, scumtell.


I thought you were gonna come out with some kind of awesome flavor theory. Dissapointed.
On others I'd point your joking attitude out as scum but I mean, you're Mr Cheesecake.
Anyone stand out to you so far?


I didn't joke at all last game, apart from a few trollish posts at the end hehe. I just think Debears is playing his scumgame from the last game right to the T. Aggressive opener, meaningless FoS. He also explicitly mentions that he's town and is being called a liar (someone saying you lied =/= being a liar).


It's cause I read your Mafia QT I guess, you're right, in the thread itself you were super serious. So why the change of tone?
XXIX is my first mafia game on TL, so it's my first encounter with debears. Maybe debears opens like this in every mafia game regardless? I'll go dig around. Feel free to comment debears.


Look at the last page of last game. I said that i am specifically trying to be more aggressive as either alignment. Aggressiveness makes the game more fun imo. Also, i can ask the questions i want and get more immediate responses if i have good presence

My aggressiveness, in other words, is a null tell. My reasoning is alignment indicative though (as shown by last game)
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:31 GMT
#169
On November 03 2012 11:26 Rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 10:20 Alsn wrote:
On November 03 2012 10:04 debears wrote:
If I'm not here for lynch, its irl conflicts 99% of the time. Don't pull an Alsn
I like it how you say 99% of the time, yet I know from reading XXIX's scum QT that you were away on purpose for the last lynch. I also bet you haven't yet participated in anywhere near 100 lynches, so technically that's a lie. Although, I probably should have paid more attention to what you actually voted for that game as opposed to whether or not you were actually around so I'll let that one slide.

I'm Alsn, I'll be around for flip-time generally, but they happen at 1 am local time so don't expect me to stick around for too long afterwards.

Prior games include XXV(VT), XXVIII(VT) and XXIX also as VT.

And yea, if given the choice between weak scum reads and hardcore lurkers, I'll hunt down and feed the hardcore lurker gone off cheesecake first chance I get. That being said, I'm off to lurk(also known as sleep, for those of you concerned with base things such as human metabolic function).


@Alsn

Don't make the "lie" too big of a deal. People throw out random percentages all the time. Also, using red there was a bit over-dramatic, don't you think?

@debears

I don't see much of a good reason to push him on this issue anymore. TBH I was a bit frustrated with you not showing up at night 1 to help talk me down from shooting kush, but then again, if you were there, you might have pushed me into it (like dandel did) ^^ I get a sense of that same frustration from alsn right now, whether it's contrived or real. Because in the end, 99% is a straight up wrong statistic, and it's best if you don't use completely bs stats in trying to prove a point.


Yeah i know I'm not pressing him anymore on it. Besides he's afk
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:35 GMT
#173
On November 03 2012 11:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
From this post onward, nobody is allowed to discuss policy lynching.


Agreed. Djo and rad

Why are you two policy jerking each other?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:36 GMT
#174
Ebwop

More specifically to djo
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:38 GMT
#176
On November 03 2012 11:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:35 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
From this post onward, nobody is allowed to discuss policy lynching.


Agreed. Djo and rad

Why are you two policy jerking each other?


You obviously don't understand the flavor of this thread.


I suppose you are right lol
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:39 GMT
#178
Btw to all obs

I will attempt to reach the fabled 30 pg filter
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:42 GMT
#180
On November 03 2012 11:38 Djodref wrote:
@ Rad

I think I'm making a good point and I'm feeling like you are trying to shush me. But I would agree that it's not good to spend to much time discussing it too much. What else do you want to talk about ?


I want to talk about you and your concentration on policy that is unwarranted. Furthermore you seem like you really don't want to address me
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:44 GMT
#182
But why?

Its pretty clear what the logic behind policy is. This is your fourth game right?

This is rads second?

I jumped on alsn, yet all you have to say about it is one sentence?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:44 GMT
#185
Ebwop

I think you both well understand what policy is
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:45 GMT
#187
On November 03 2012 11:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Here's a topic: I don't want anyone playing the noob card as a defense. Ever. You can make decent arguments / cases even if it's your first game. Don't attribute your actions to "I'm sorry, idk what I'm doing! Newbie town here! Man I suck at this game."

@Djo

Do what you like, dat 30 page filter inc.


Really? You didn't want to talk about policy, yet you bring up another?
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