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On October 31 2012 02:33 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2012 10:24 kushm4sta wrote:On October 30 2012 08:10 iGrok wrote:
Actually in light of the hurricane, delayed for a day to see who is in and who is (not) dead hopefully.
Good luck guys, stay safe. wow this storm is the biggest bullshit ive ever seen. Its severity is a complete fabrication by the 24 hour news cycle for ratings and profit. You are retarded
Hope everything is alright down there Mattchew, no one you know hurt or no damages to your propety.
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Nooooo chezinu ninjad me good thing I checked, I cant do the alphabet very well I have to say it completely out all the time lol. Oh, I agree with that fact that purposely fucking up is scummy because it gives you a free pass not to post, however, BKE seemed to be not understanding the rules at first, and the second time the posts were 3 min apart so its possible for ninja post. Poop, just to clarify this doesn't excuse his ridiuclous joke vote/call out on a "scum slip", it seemed like a desperate attempt to put fault on someone, but he fucked up with the rules. Qonsequently BKE, so far is the only player that stands out to me as somewhat scummy.
Reading chezinus last post, I still don't agree with the mass claim idea. Sit will still end up with everyone claiming audience memebers. Tangerine, chezinu, why do you feeld it was nessecary to give the player list :S ?
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Underwear, my lack vocabulary is embarassing, guess thats why im in engineering lol.
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Vun more thing, I think its beneficial to when you are posting to keep this thread open in 2 windows and f5 the window without your post before posting, so you don't get caught.
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Oh sheit, forgot W xfire.
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On October 31 2012 11:38 Blazinghand wrote:
Love to. My reason is that at this point in the thread he is the scummiest. "No way," you say, "he hasn't posted yet!" Often, that is reason enough. Proof of his scumminess is that he is a general liability.
Quack is the sound ducks make. Really though I'm gonna change my vote to Adam there's no way that post is town. Seriously if he was reforming posts he'd reform his post into that post instead of making a complaining post. Trying to get cred when he deserves none. Untie!
Going to gym, fuck the rules. Only got 5 minutes but would like to comment on a few things.
The above is your case against Adam right? I don't consider it the strongest case, as you above seem pretty confident in it, but the fact that he hasn't been back to contribute is pretty un easing. leaning scummy on him right now.
I half agree to what you say about crossfire too blazinghand. His posts were unreadable thats for sure. I had to re-read several paragraphs 3 times before I even understood what the point was, and then it didn't even deliverable the point well -_-. This is more likely xfire posting as town because he was being ridiculous, but I also think there is a possibility he started posting these long unreadable fluffy statements, so that maybe someone else would follow his ridiculous posting style and muck up the town completely. Thats scum intereference. Also, he actually looks to the non-reader, that he is contributing more than most, when really, hes more interested in literary skills and looking town, than actually finding scum.
ATM I would be happy to vote either Xfire or BKE, (which I stated earlier why I thought his fake joke stuff seemed scummy, while his purposely?? getting restrictions wasn't liekly scummy), could go for Adam too, but I would rather wait for him to come into the thread again before doing that.
Gunna lay down a vote Xfire atm. Need to re-read the thread and consider all the options, I have been either asleep or at work for this whole thread thus far.
##Vote Crossfire
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U BH, I said, I can see where your coming from how it seems townie, but I was ultimately voting him because I could also see where he could be doing it as scum - looking like contributing, - acknoledges moost of it was fluff when called out, -but why post fluff pirposely if you are town - as I said in my post, I need to re-read the thread and it isn't a strong scum read by any means - if your looking for people not reading the thread, look no further -
On November 01 2012 06:20 Crossfire99 wrote:
Yeah, so you see me as more likely town, so you vote for me? -_- ???????
That's not scummy at all...
-obviously didnt read all of my post, and a pretty defensive reaction over 2 votes this early imo
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On October 30 2012 00:25 Djagulingu wrote:
No!!! I missed a game with Chezinu in it.
On October 30 2012 00:25 Djagulingu wrote:
/replacement
On November 01 2012 03:17 Djagulingu wrote:
So did we start or we're just fucking around?
To be honest, I don't give a fuck
Uhh
##Vote: Chezinu
We should vote for chezinu because every single time there is a storm in the US and Chezinu is playing a game of mafia, he's always a scumbag.
-does anyone see a weird disconnect here between pre game and in game - excited to play the game/to play with chezinu and then comes out with that opener saying I dont give a fuck - I dont understand this sudden change in mindset, not indicative of alignment as of yet, but just really weird contrast imo.
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On November 01 2012 14:00 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 23:13 Mementoss wrote:
Nooooo chezinu ninjad me good thing I checked, I cant do the alphabet very well I have to say it completely out all the time lol. Oh, I agree with that fact that purposely fucking up is scummy because it gives you a free pass not to post, however, BKE seemed to be not understanding the rules at first, and the second time the posts were 3 min apart so its possible for ninja post. Poop, just to clarify this doesn't excuse his ridiuclous joke vote/call out on a "scum slip", it seemed like a desperate attempt to put fault on someone, but he fucked up with the rules. Qonsequently BKE, so far is the only player that stands out to me as somewhat scummy.
Reading chezinus last post, I still don't agree with the mass claim idea. Sit will still end up with everyone claiming audience memebers. Tangerine, chezinu, why do you feeld it was nessecary to give the player list :S ? Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 06:08 Mementoss wrote:On October 31 2012 11:38 Blazinghand wrote:
Love to. My reason is that at this point in the thread he is the scummiest. "No way," you say, "he hasn't posted yet!" Often, that is reason enough. Proof of his scumminess is that he is a general liability.
Quack is the sound ducks make. Really though I'm gonna change my vote to Adam there's no way that post is town. Seriously if he was reforming posts he'd reform his post into that post instead of making a complaining post. Trying to get cred when he deserves none. Untie! Going to gym, fuck the rules. Only got 5 minutes but would like to comment on a few things.
The above is your case against Adam right? I don't consider it the strongest case, as you above seem pretty confident in it, but the fact that he hasn't been back to contribute is pretty un easing. leaning scummy on him right now. I half agree to what you say about crossfire too blazinghand. His posts were unreadable thats for sure. I had to re-read several paragraphs 3 times before I even understood what the point was, and then it didn't even deliverable the point well -_-. This is more likely xfire posting as town because he was being ridiculous, but I also think there is a possibility he started posting these long unreadable fluffy statements, so that maybe someone else would follow his ridiculous posting style and muck up the town completely. Thats scum intereference. Also, he actually looks to the non-reader, that he is contributing more than most, when really, hes more interested in literary skills and looking town, than actually finding scum. ATM I would be happy to vote either Xfire or BKE, (which I stated earlier why I thought his fake joke stuff seemed scummy, while his purposely?? getting restrictions wasn't liekly scummy), could go for Adam too, but I would rather wait for him to come into the thread again before doing that. Gunna lay down a vote Xfire atm. Need to re-read the thread and consider all the options, I have been either asleep or at work for this whole thread thus far. ##Vote Crossfire Xtremely weird change of opinion, there. You go from saying its scummy to blatantly not follow the alphabet rules, to doing it yourself without any indication why you suddenly don't care anymore. Zero sense does that make.
W - i realized how easy it was to mess up by mistake later in the day, also it wasn't like i was having a back to back conversation with someone, i was going out like i said, so it made no difference, i would rather be able to express myself legible and not take double the time if im not going to be near a computer, it makes sense to me, it would be scummy if a couple of us were having a conversation leading to discussion than a mess up was purposely done, not if you were peacing out anyways and have no chance of posting, and gives you a readable post.
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Keirathi
Okay so some preface, I think Keirathi has been slipping through this game without being mentioned too much. So I decided to look at his filter and noticed some scummy things. Lets go through it.
Part I: Spreading Accusations
All game, Keirethi has been spreading accusations very very subtly while never going deeper into them, he has yet to give a strong opinion that he thinks would be good for a lynch. Overall, hes looking active while not doing anything to push a scum lynch. His play seems to represent someone that doesn't care who gets lynched at all. Lets look at a couple examples of this:
On November 01 2012 03:38 Keirathi wrote:
'Kay, so how is my question to Chezinu unimportant? Looks to me like he wanted all of our blues to claim. Maybe its just me, having never played with Chezinu, but that was a pretty anti-town plan.
Now, I did comment on the BKE thing. On its own, its not particularly scummy. Particularly, though, the fact that he hasn't done any kind of early pressure vote in any of his last 7 town games is a bit weird. Still, even then I only think its minorly scummy and would never be enough to make me vote him.
His questions at chezinu seem to hint that he thinks what he is doing is scummy and pushing scum agenda, yet he just calls him ut on an anti town plan and never follows up.
He says on its own its not scummy, than hints that his meta doesn't match so its a bit "weird". Never commits completely to his opinion on thinking hes scummy, but ends with scummy but not enough to vote him. Gives him an out if he flips red, that he didn't defend him he just couldnt make up his mind.
On November 01 2012 14:00 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 23:13 Mementoss wrote:
Nooooo chezinu ninjad me good thing I checked, I cant do the alphabet very well I have to say it completely out all the time lol. Oh, I agree with that fact that purposely fucking up is scummy because it gives you a free pass not to post, however, BKE seemed to be not understanding the rules at first, and the second time the posts were 3 min apart so its possible for ninja post. Poop, just to clarify this doesn't excuse his ridiuclous joke vote/call out on a "scum slip", it seemed like a desperate attempt to put fault on someone, but he fucked up with the rules. Qonsequently BKE, so far is the only player that stands out to me as somewhat scummy.
Reading chezinus last post, I still don't agree with the mass claim idea. Sit will still end up with everyone claiming audience memebers. Tangerine, chezinu, why do you feeld it was nessecary to give the player list :S ? Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 06:08 Mementoss wrote:On October 31 2012 11:38 Blazinghand wrote:
Love to. My reason is that at this point in the thread he is the scummiest. "No way," you say, "he hasn't posted yet!" Often, that is reason enough. Proof of his scumminess is that he is a general liability.
Quack is the sound ducks make. Really though I'm gonna change my vote to Adam there's no way that post is town. Seriously if he was reforming posts he'd reform his post into that post instead of making a complaining post. Trying to get cred when he deserves none. Untie! Going to gym, fuck the rules. Only got 5 minutes but would like to comment on a few things.
The above is your case against Adam right? I don't consider it the strongest case, as you above seem pretty confident in it, but the fact that he hasn't been back to contribute is pretty un easing. leaning scummy on him right now. I half agree to what you say about crossfire too blazinghand. His posts were unreadable thats for sure. I had to re-read several paragraphs 3 times before I even understood what the point was, and then it didn't even deliverable the point well -_-. This is more likely xfire posting as town because he was being ridiculous, but I also think there is a possibility he started posting these long unreadable fluffy statements, so that maybe someone else would follow his ridiculous posting style and muck up the town completely. Thats scum intereference. Also, he actually looks to the non-reader, that he is contributing more than most, when really, hes more interested in literary skills and looking town, than actually finding scum. ATM I would be happy to vote either Xfire or BKE, (which I stated earlier why I thought his fake joke stuff seemed scummy, while his purposely?? getting restrictions wasn't liekly scummy), could go for Adam too, but I would rather wait for him to come into the thread again before doing that. Gunna lay down a vote Xfire atm. Need to re-read the thread and consider all the options, I have been either asleep or at work for this whole thread thus far. ##Vote Crossfire Xtremely weird change of opinion, there. You go from saying its scummy to blatantly not follow the alphabet rules, to doing it yourself without any indication why you suddenly don't care anymore. Zero sense does that make.
Again says its weird, not scummy. Just says it makes zero sense. Keirathi has zero desire to get a lynch going today, and he is afraid to commit. Hes leaving himself many avenues open for later when he decides to vote.
On November 02 2012 01:18 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 06:55 Blazinghand wrote:gonzaw-- I'm willing to buy that you did in fact read my post, just not very carefully. On November 01 2012 01:22 Blazinghand wrote:
The game is fine and all, and if you want to banter and go back and forth, do it. But the terrible lobstrosity of a post that crossfire puked into the thread is the kind of thing that doesn't help. There are times to break the rules. In a way, chezinu knows this better than anyone here, but hes too busy being chezinu to lead town.
breaking the rules is not a scum move, any more than simply not posting for an hour is a scum move. tons of people have 1+ hour gaps in between their craptacularly bad alphabetical posts-- you should just make decent, good posts instead if you're not in the middle of a conversation. I don't know how this seems to be dogmatically in favor of using the 1-hour wait method at all times or the rhyming method at all times. You should read my posts more clearly and think a bit harder about the game. Part of the reason I'm on your ass is that you're not playing like you normally do. This focus from you, and the lack of serious pressure on multiple targets, that's not like you. The gonzaw I know, when he plays town, has fullisades of questions for everyone. Why just this one Keirathi case? Where's your usual constant interrogation and probing of everyone in the town? I remember your posts as being kinda annoying and having formatting issues, and maybe being unfocused, but also being unrelenting in their pressure on multiple targets. What gives? Forgive me for not commenting on this sooner sooner, but I just now had the available time to do the research. Go back and look at Aperture 2. He literally made a case/accusation against EVERY SINGLE PLAYER day 1. Its just such a huge disconnect from "everyone is scummy, lets question/accuse them!" to "well, this one guy is kinda scummy because he hasn't posted as much as I expect him to". Just my opinion, but this doesn't really fit the town gonzaw that I remember either.
Again spreading some suspicion on gonzaw. Not saying hes scummy per sae but saying his meta doesn't fit aperature 2. And ALSO he doesn't mention that gonzaw was traitor in aperture 2, and he won with scum, so this meta doesn't even make sense. He doesn't follow up with in game evidence or even ask gonzaw to clarify anything. This brings me to my next point.
Part II - Doesn't fit the meta
Every game I have played with Keirathi he has been very active and has been a major part in pushing discussion. Even if hes not scumhunting hes pushing discussion in strategic ways. This game has been the very opposite. He is a commentator, active, without pushing discussion to actually find scum. That is all I have to say on this, because meta should just be a supportable part not the main part of a case.
Part III - Active Lurker
Keirathi has been actually quite active in this game at many times, however he has only put down a few lines every time he has been here, and choses not to discuss the current parts of the thread. He timeline seems to sprinkle at many times in the thread, indicating he is chosing not to contribute in his normal town manner, or he doesn't overly care about finding scum. Just to separate himself from the major lurkers in this game.
He also has been excessively lazy this game and making excuses.
On October 31 2012 14:02 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 13:55 Adam4167 wrote:
Perhaps click on his profile and check for yourself?
Quite simple really.
Red he has never been.
Sure, I could have checked myself, but you already did the research  Totally easier to just ask you to share.
On October 31 2012 13:33 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 12:44 Crossfire99 wrote:Gosh, what have we here? On October 31 2012 12:22 Keirathi wrote:
'Sup, everyone. Time to get rid of those pesky musicians. How have you not posted on what has happened so far? I seem to remember the talkative little townie in Aperature that wasn't afraid to comment on anything. Keirathi was enjoying some Diablo 3 with a buddy. Looking back over the posts since I chimed it, it doesn't look like theres really a whole lot to comment on. Maybe its just me, but while this posting restriction is very entertaining, its quite hard to say exactly what you mean.
He is apathetic. He knows better than this, there is never gunna be anyting to comment on unless you push the discussion, which keirathi has not beeen trying to do like his normal town self. Making an excuse to blame the mechanics for not posting.
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Alright so Im still not sure on crossfire, but I think there are more likely places to catch scum than him so im taking my vote off him. I can see what hes doing from both alignments, so I shouldn't make a solid choice on only that. His reaction didn't really lead me any further with more of an opinion on him.
Probably 2nd scummiest player imo is BKE, I agree with SnB on his thoughts on him.
Dingaling, is also an option but it would be strictly policy lynch at this point. I think he is more likely unactive than lurking.
When is deadline? 10 hours? We need to somewhat start consolidating or discussing your straight up two best scum reads asaply.
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On November 02 2012 04:22 BroodKingEXE wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 01:52 Mementoss wrote: Keirathi Okay so some preface, I think Keirathi has been slipping through this game without being mentioned too much. So I decided to look at his filter and noticed some scummy things. Lets go through it. Part I: Spreading AccusationsAll game, Keirethi has been spreading accusations very very subtly while never going deeper into them, he has yet to give a strong opinion that he thinks would be good for a lynch. Overall, hes looking active while not doing anything to push a scum lynch. His play seems to represent someone that doesn't care who gets lynched at all. Lets look at a couple examples of this: On November 01 2012 03:38 Keirathi wrote:
'Kay, so how is my question to Chezinu unimportant? Looks to me like he wanted all of our blues to claim. Maybe its just me, having never played with Chezinu, but that was a pretty anti-town plan.
Now, I did comment on the BKE thing. On its own, its not particularly scummy. Particularly, though, the fact that he hasn't done any kind of early pressure vote in any of his last 7 town games is a bit weird. Still, even then I only think its minorly scummy and would never be enough to make me vote him. His questions at chezinu seem to hint that he thinks what he is doing is scummy and pushing scum agenda, yet he just calls him ut on an anti town plan and never follows up. He says on its own its not scummy, than hints that his meta doesn't match so its a bit "weird". Never commits completely to his opinion on thinking hes scummy, but ends with scummy but not enough to vote him. Gives him an out if he flips red, that he didn't defend him he just couldnt make up his mind. On November 01 2012 14:00 Keirathi wrote:On October 31 2012 23:13 Mementoss wrote:
Nooooo chezinu ninjad me good thing I checked, I cant do the alphabet very well I have to say it completely out all the time lol. Oh, I agree with that fact that purposely fucking up is scummy because it gives you a free pass not to post, however, BKE seemed to be not understanding the rules at first, and the second time the posts were 3 min apart so its possible for ninja post. Poop, just to clarify this doesn't excuse his ridiuclous joke vote/call out on a "scum slip", it seemed like a desperate attempt to put fault on someone, but he fucked up with the rules. Qonsequently BKE, so far is the only player that stands out to me as somewhat scummy.
Reading chezinus last post, I still don't agree with the mass claim idea. Sit will still end up with everyone claiming audience memebers. Tangerine, chezinu, why do you feeld it was nessecary to give the player list :S ? On November 01 2012 06:08 Mementoss wrote:On October 31 2012 11:38 Blazinghand wrote:
Love to. My reason is that at this point in the thread he is the scummiest. "No way," you say, "he hasn't posted yet!" Often, that is reason enough. Proof of his scumminess is that he is a general liability.
Quack is the sound ducks make. Really though I'm gonna change my vote to Adam there's no way that post is town. Seriously if he was reforming posts he'd reform his post into that post instead of making a complaining post. Trying to get cred when he deserves none. Untie! Going to gym, fuck the rules. Only got 5 minutes but would like to comment on a few things.
The above is your case against Adam right? I don't consider it the strongest case, as you above seem pretty confident in it, but the fact that he hasn't been back to contribute is pretty un easing. leaning scummy on him right now. I half agree to what you say about crossfire too blazinghand. His posts were unreadable thats for sure. I had to re-read several paragraphs 3 times before I even understood what the point was, and then it didn't even deliverable the point well -_-. This is more likely xfire posting as town because he was being ridiculous, but I also think there is a possibility he started posting these long unreadable fluffy statements, so that maybe someone else would follow his ridiculous posting style and muck up the town completely. Thats scum intereference. Also, he actually looks to the non-reader, that he is contributing more than most, when really, hes more interested in literary skills and looking town, than actually finding scum. ATM I would be happy to vote either Xfire or BKE, (which I stated earlier why I thought his fake joke stuff seemed scummy, while his purposely?? getting restrictions wasn't liekly scummy), could go for Adam too, but I would rather wait for him to come into the thread again before doing that. Gunna lay down a vote Xfire atm. Need to re-read the thread and consider all the options, I have been either asleep or at work for this whole thread thus far. ##Vote Crossfire Xtremely weird change of opinion, there. You go from saying its scummy to blatantly not follow the alphabet rules, to doing it yourself without any indication why you suddenly don't care anymore. Zero sense does that make. Again says its weird, not scummy. Just says it makes zero sense. Keirathi has zero desire to get a lynch going today, and he is afraid to commit. Hes leaving himself many avenues open for later when he decides to vote. On November 02 2012 01:18 Keirathi wrote:On November 01 2012 06:55 Blazinghand wrote:gonzaw-- I'm willing to buy that you did in fact read my post, just not very carefully. On November 01 2012 01:22 Blazinghand wrote:
The game is fine and all, and if you want to banter and go back and forth, do it. But the terrible lobstrosity of a post that crossfire puked into the thread is the kind of thing that doesn't help. There are times to break the rules. In a way, chezinu knows this better than anyone here, but hes too busy being chezinu to lead town.
breaking the rules is not a scum move, any more than simply not posting for an hour is a scum move. tons of people have 1+ hour gaps in between their craptacularly bad alphabetical posts-- you should just make decent, good posts instead if you're not in the middle of a conversation. I don't know how this seems to be dogmatically in favor of using the 1-hour wait method at all times or the rhyming method at all times. You should read my posts more clearly and think a bit harder about the game. Part of the reason I'm on your ass is that you're not playing like you normally do. This focus from you, and the lack of serious pressure on multiple targets, that's not like you. The gonzaw I know, when he plays town, has fullisades of questions for everyone. Why just this one Keirathi case? Where's your usual constant interrogation and probing of everyone in the town? I remember your posts as being kinda annoying and having formatting issues, and maybe being unfocused, but also being unrelenting in their pressure on multiple targets. What gives? Forgive me for not commenting on this sooner sooner, but I just now had the available time to do the research. Go back and look at Aperture 2. He literally made a case/accusation against EVERY SINGLE PLAYER day 1. Its just such a huge disconnect from "everyone is scummy, lets question/accuse them!" to "well, this one guy is kinda scummy because he hasn't posted as much as I expect him to". Just my opinion, but this doesn't really fit the town gonzaw that I remember either. Again spreading some suspicion on gonzaw. Not saying hes scummy per sae but saying his meta doesn't fit aperature 2. And ALSO he doesn't mention that gonzaw was traitor in aperture 2, and he won with scum, so this meta doesn't even make sense. He doesn't follow up with in game evidence or even ask gonzaw to clarify anything. This brings me to my next point. Part II - Doesn't fit the metaEvery game I have played with Keirathi he has been very active and has been a major part in pushing discussion. Even if hes not scumhunting hes pushing discussion in strategic ways. This game has been the very opposite. He is a commentator, active, without pushing discussion to actually find scum. That is all I have to say on this, because meta should just be a supportable part not the main part of a case. Part III - Active LurkerKeirathi has been actually quite active in this game at many times, however he has only put down a few lines every time he has been here, and choses not to discuss the current parts of the thread. He timeline seems to sprinkle at many times in the thread, indicating he is chosing not to contribute in his normal town manner, or he doesn't overly care about finding scum. Just to separate himself from the major lurkers in this game. He also has been excessively lazy this game and making excuses. On October 31 2012 14:02 Keirathi wrote:On October 31 2012 13:55 Adam4167 wrote:
Perhaps click on his profile and check for yourself?
Quite simple really.
Red he has never been.
Sure, I could have checked myself, but you already did the research Totally easier to just ask you to share. On October 31 2012 13:33 Keirathi wrote:On October 31 2012 12:44 Crossfire99 wrote:Gosh, what have we here? On October 31 2012 12:22 Keirathi wrote:
'Sup, everyone. Time to get rid of those pesky musicians. How have you not posted on what has happened so far? I seem to remember the talkative little townie in Aperature that wasn't afraid to comment on anything. Keirathi was enjoying some Diablo 3 with a buddy. Looking back over the posts since I chimed it, it doesn't look like theres really a whole lot to comment on. Maybe its just me, but while this posting restriction is very entertaining, its quite hard to say exactly what you mean. He is apathetic. He knows better than this, there is never gunna be anyting to comment on unless you push the discussion, which keirathi has not beeen trying to do like his normal town self. Making an excuse to blame the mechanics for not posting. ##Unvote
##Vote: Keirathi[-] Other stuff: Alright so Im still not sure on crossfire, but I think there are more likely places to catch scum than him so im taking my vote off him. I can see what hes doing from both alignments, so I shouldn't make a solid choice on only that. His reaction didn't really lead me any further with more of an opinion on him. Probably 2nd scummiest player imo is BKE, I agree with SnB on his thoughts on him. Dingaling, is also an option but it would be strictly policy lynch at this point. I think he is more likely unactive than lurking. When is deadline? 10 hours? We need to somewhat start consolidating or discussing your straight up two best scum reads asaply. Bottom part is so scummy, because you basically say your vote for Keir isn't pushed by your case but by the lack of Xfire's scummness. Cause of this, it shows me that you have no confidence in this case about Keir, because you had to justify a vote change. Dingaling shouldn't even be included in this post as you already have two scum reads, why would you support a policy lynch when you have two scum? Eyeing one of Hopeless posts, I noticed I hadn't unvoted and voted is that what you guys are saying Im am being hypocritical on?
BHow does it show that at all. CI was just verifying/ re-evaluating my read on crossfire because people were still mentioning it.
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On November 02 2012 06:25 BroodKingEXE wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 06:05 Mementoss wrote:On November 02 2012 04:22 BroodKingEXE wrote:On November 02 2012 01:52 Mementoss wrote: Keirathi Okay so some preface, I think Keirathi has been slipping through this game without being mentioned too much. So I decided to look at his filter and noticed some scummy things. Lets go through it. Part I: Spreading AccusationsAll game, Keirethi has been spreading accusations very very subtly while never going deeper into them, he has yet to give a strong opinion that he thinks would be good for a lynch. Overall, hes looking active while not doing anything to push a scum lynch. His play seems to represent someone that doesn't care who gets lynched at all. Lets look at a couple examples of this: On November 01 2012 03:38 Keirathi wrote:
'Kay, so how is my question to Chezinu unimportant? Looks to me like he wanted all of our blues to claim. Maybe its just me, having never played with Chezinu, but that was a pretty anti-town plan.
Now, I did comment on the BKE thing. On its own, its not particularly scummy. Particularly, though, the fact that he hasn't done any kind of early pressure vote in any of his last 7 town games is a bit weird. Still, even then I only think its minorly scummy and would never be enough to make me vote him. His questions at chezinu seem to hint that he thinks what he is doing is scummy and pushing scum agenda, yet he just calls him ut on an anti town plan and never follows up. He says on its own its not scummy, than hints that his meta doesn't match so its a bit "weird". Never commits completely to his opinion on thinking hes scummy, but ends with scummy but not enough to vote him. Gives him an out if he flips red, that he didn't defend him he just couldnt make up his mind. On November 01 2012 14:00 Keirathi wrote:On October 31 2012 23:13 Mementoss wrote:
Nooooo chezinu ninjad me good thing I checked, I cant do the alphabet very well I have to say it completely out all the time lol. Oh, I agree with that fact that purposely fucking up is scummy because it gives you a free pass not to post, however, BKE seemed to be not understanding the rules at first, and the second time the posts were 3 min apart so its possible for ninja post. Poop, just to clarify this doesn't excuse his ridiuclous joke vote/call out on a "scum slip", it seemed like a desperate attempt to put fault on someone, but he fucked up with the rules. Qonsequently BKE, so far is the only player that stands out to me as somewhat scummy.
Reading chezinus last post, I still don't agree with the mass claim idea. Sit will still end up with everyone claiming audience memebers. Tangerine, chezinu, why do you feeld it was nessecary to give the player list :S ? On November 01 2012 06:08 Mementoss wrote:On October 31 2012 11:38 Blazinghand wrote:
Love to. My reason is that at this point in the thread he is the scummiest. "No way," you say, "he hasn't posted yet!" Often, that is reason enough. Proof of his scumminess is that he is a general liability.
Quack is the sound ducks make. Really though I'm gonna change my vote to Adam there's no way that post is town. Seriously if he was reforming posts he'd reform his post into that post instead of making a complaining post. Trying to get cred when he deserves none. Untie! Going to gym, fuck the rules. Only got 5 minutes but would like to comment on a few things.
The above is your case against Adam right? I don't consider it the strongest case, as you above seem pretty confident in it, but the fact that he hasn't been back to contribute is pretty un easing. leaning scummy on him right now. I half agree to what you say about crossfire too blazinghand. His posts were unreadable thats for sure. I had to re-read several paragraphs 3 times before I even understood what the point was, and then it didn't even deliverable the point well -_-. This is more likely xfire posting as town because he was being ridiculous, but I also think there is a possibility he started posting these long unreadable fluffy statements, so that maybe someone else would follow his ridiculous posting style and muck up the town completely. Thats scum intereference. Also, he actually looks to the non-reader, that he is contributing more than most, when really, hes more interested in literary skills and looking town, than actually finding scum. ATM I would be happy to vote either Xfire or BKE, (which I stated earlier why I thought his fake joke stuff seemed scummy, while his purposely?? getting restrictions wasn't liekly scummy), could go for Adam too, but I would rather wait for him to come into the thread again before doing that. Gunna lay down a vote Xfire atm. Need to re-read the thread and consider all the options, I have been either asleep or at work for this whole thread thus far. ##Vote Crossfire Xtremely weird change of opinion, there. You go from saying its scummy to blatantly not follow the alphabet rules, to doing it yourself without any indication why you suddenly don't care anymore. Zero sense does that make. Again says its weird, not scummy. Just says it makes zero sense. Keirathi has zero desire to get a lynch going today, and he is afraid to commit. Hes leaving himself many avenues open for later when he decides to vote. On November 02 2012 01:18 Keirathi wrote:On November 01 2012 06:55 Blazinghand wrote:gonzaw-- I'm willing to buy that you did in fact read my post, just not very carefully. On November 01 2012 01:22 Blazinghand wrote:
The game is fine and all, and if you want to banter and go back and forth, do it. But the terrible lobstrosity of a post that crossfire puked into the thread is the kind of thing that doesn't help. There are times to break the rules. In a way, chezinu knows this better than anyone here, but hes too busy being chezinu to lead town.
breaking the rules is not a scum move, any more than simply not posting for an hour is a scum move. tons of people have 1+ hour gaps in between their craptacularly bad alphabetical posts-- you should just make decent, good posts instead if you're not in the middle of a conversation. I don't know how this seems to be dogmatically in favor of using the 1-hour wait method at all times or the rhyming method at all times. You should read my posts more clearly and think a bit harder about the game. Part of the reason I'm on your ass is that you're not playing like you normally do. This focus from you, and the lack of serious pressure on multiple targets, that's not like you. The gonzaw I know, when he plays town, has fullisades of questions for everyone. Why just this one Keirathi case? Where's your usual constant interrogation and probing of everyone in the town? I remember your posts as being kinda annoying and having formatting issues, and maybe being unfocused, but also being unrelenting in their pressure on multiple targets. What gives? Forgive me for not commenting on this sooner sooner, but I just now had the available time to do the research. Go back and look at Aperture 2. He literally made a case/accusation against EVERY SINGLE PLAYER day 1. Its just such a huge disconnect from "everyone is scummy, lets question/accuse them!" to "well, this one guy is kinda scummy because he hasn't posted as much as I expect him to". Just my opinion, but this doesn't really fit the town gonzaw that I remember either. Again spreading some suspicion on gonzaw. Not saying hes scummy per sae but saying his meta doesn't fit aperature 2. And ALSO he doesn't mention that gonzaw was traitor in aperture 2, and he won with scum, so this meta doesn't even make sense. He doesn't follow up with in game evidence or even ask gonzaw to clarify anything. This brings me to my next point. Part II - Doesn't fit the metaEvery game I have played with Keirathi he has been very active and has been a major part in pushing discussion. Even if hes not scumhunting hes pushing discussion in strategic ways. This game has been the very opposite. He is a commentator, active, without pushing discussion to actually find scum. That is all I have to say on this, because meta should just be a supportable part not the main part of a case. Part III - Active LurkerKeirathi has been actually quite active in this game at many times, however he has only put down a few lines every time he has been here, and choses not to discuss the current parts of the thread. He timeline seems to sprinkle at many times in the thread, indicating he is chosing not to contribute in his normal town manner, or he doesn't overly care about finding scum. Just to separate himself from the major lurkers in this game. He also has been excessively lazy this game and making excuses. On October 31 2012 14:02 Keirathi wrote:On October 31 2012 13:55 Adam4167 wrote:
Perhaps click on his profile and check for yourself?
Quite simple really.
Red he has never been.
Sure, I could have checked myself, but you already did the research Totally easier to just ask you to share. On October 31 2012 13:33 Keirathi wrote:On October 31 2012 12:44 Crossfire99 wrote:Gosh, what have we here? On October 31 2012 12:22 Keirathi wrote:
'Sup, everyone. Time to get rid of those pesky musicians. How have you not posted on what has happened so far? I seem to remember the talkative little townie in Aperature that wasn't afraid to comment on anything. Keirathi was enjoying some Diablo 3 with a buddy. Looking back over the posts since I chimed it, it doesn't look like theres really a whole lot to comment on. Maybe its just me, but while this posting restriction is very entertaining, its quite hard to say exactly what you mean. He is apathetic. He knows better than this, there is never gunna be anyting to comment on unless you push the discussion, which keirathi has not beeen trying to do like his normal town self. Making an excuse to blame the mechanics for not posting. ##Unvote
##Vote: Keirathi[-] Other stuff: Alright so Im still not sure on crossfire, but I think there are more likely places to catch scum than him so im taking my vote off him. I can see what hes doing from both alignments, so I shouldn't make a solid choice on only that. His reaction didn't really lead me any further with more of an opinion on him. Probably 2nd scummiest player imo is BKE, I agree with SnB on his thoughts on him. Dingaling, is also an option but it would be strictly policy lynch at this point. I think he is more likely unactive than lurking. When is deadline? 10 hours? We need to somewhat start consolidating or discussing your straight up two best scum reads asaply. Bottom part is so scummy, because you basically say your vote for Keir isn't pushed by your case but by the lack of Xfire's scummness. Cause of this, it shows me that you have no confidence in this case about Keir, because you had to justify a vote change. Dingaling shouldn't even be included in this post as you already have two scum reads, why would you support a policy lynch when you have two scum? Eyeing one of Hopeless posts, I noticed I hadn't unvoted and voted is that what you guys are saying Im am being hypocritical on? BHow does it show that at all. CI was just verifying/ re-evaluating my read on crossfire because people were still mentioning it. Knuckling down here, this is not clarifying anything about your read. Look at what you say "I think there are more likely places to catch scum that him", you initially had a scum read on him, so your read has changed from scum to less likely scum. Moseying down after the bolded part, you say that he is doing neutral posting. No where do you clarify your stance, you just confuse the hell out of us. On my bolded part, it doesn't make sense to say you are unvoting Xfire explicitly because it implies that you think his neutrality is a bigger tell than your own Keir case.
X BK, I dont understand what your saying, I already explained to you what I was saying, YOU are confusing the hell out of me, you are saying townies should just tunnel people all game :S, you tunnel hopeless for no reason all day, then only vote off him because BH told you and too, and to save your own ass - since i know my alignment, and i know im town - im going to switch my vote to you - i agree with snbs analysis on you - and all your play this game i cant see from a town point of view at all - this last push against me makes no sense at all and seems a bit desperate, is this another joke vote
##unvote
##vote: broodkingexe
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On November 02 2012 07:18 BroodKingEXE wrote:
X/ going after you makes no sense cause I have a townread on you, MMT's Keir case isnt even enough for him to vote for Keir. You see MMT needed to convince himself that Xfire wasn't scum to believe his own case, which means that his Keir case is shitty in his own opinion. Zoinks! Another thing is he is supporting a policy lynch when he has a case up, policy lynches D1 are only for townies that have no outright scum reads. But he supposedly has two: Keir and me, yet he still feels the need to push a policy lynch which he could use later if something unaccounted for comes up before the lynch. Coming to a conclusion, Xfire's neutrality over Keir's scumminess means that he doesn't even believe in his own case.
D/ changing your mind, clear scum tell -_-
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On November 02 2012 07:15 Crossfire99 wrote:
Zero time I have, so I have to make this quick. All I got right now is that mementoss is still scummy. Bad case on keirathi plus the fact that he ignored my case on him and just gave a little throwaway line about how that post doesn't help determine my alignment. Can't really say what's going on with Brood right now because it seems like he is having a lot of brain farts this game, which makes reading him very confusing. Does that mean he is scum or town? Eh, I'm not sure right now. For realz, though, mementoss is scum and you should be voting for him, too.
##Vote: Mementoss
explain how my case is bad, the case one me is non existant, one afk voted me, and adam had 3 lines on me, cool BK is just saying stuff that I don't even understand how that could make someone scum, so confused
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Mmmm lets see, can someone at least explain the case against me? No? Oh, look at the people voting me, can you honeslty say you have better than a null read on any of them chez adam bke and xfire? Pft, guess the last minute counter wagon is working since im set to die.
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On November 02 2012 08:26 Adam4167 wrote:Back with my thoughts on Mementoss' Keirathi case: Mementoss you say that Keirathi does not care if he is to be lynched, yet that is not indicative of alignment and I would wager entirely untrue as either alignment has a vested interest in not being lynched. Canned peaches - Accusing Keirathi of being wishy-washy by using the term 'weird' is just plain hypocritical, as you yourself did the exact thing here: Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 08:08 Mementoss wrote:V On October 30 2012 00:25 Djagulingu wrote:
No!!! I missed a game with Chezinu in it. On October 30 2012 00:25 Djagulingu wrote:
/replacement On November 01 2012 03:17 Djagulingu wrote:
So did we start or we're just fucking around?
To be honest, I don't give a fuck
Uhh
##Vote: Chezinu
We should vote for chezinu because every single time there is a storm in the US and Chezinu is playing a game of mafia, he's always a scumbag. -does anyone see a weird disconnect here between pre game and in game - excited to play the game/to play with chezinu and then comes out with that opener saying I dont give a fuck - I dont understand this sudden change in mindset, not indicative of alignment as of yet, but just really weird contrast imo. Dogs are awesome - Granted I don't like Keirathi's laziness - something I already touched on when I was conversing with him - but this is the only part of your case that actually resonates with me. Eventually, I find your case to be mostly padded and does not do a good job of illustrating why Keirathi is scum and only scum, hence I think you're faking it.
Fuck, it was a case build off of a 14 page game, I was trying my best to find scum, and that was the best I found, but I guess its alright for eveyrone else to lurk and last minute come to vote me, I thought he was scum, - cases like the one on Hopeless by BKE is better though right? Gah, that was so faked it was unbelievable, not only faked but total OMGUS, BKE goes afk forever, makes a comment on me that doesn't make sense and a last minute counter wagon on me happens, guess i will think twice about trying to find scum and just lurk, cause that seems to be the pro town thing to do >_> - adam do you think BKE is town, honestly, everything he has done this game has been really scummy.
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H ' Is BH here to discuss, he is the only guy I have a good town read on atm
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I cant belive no one is here, last minute lurkers come in and all vote me, its ridiculous, giving everyone a free pass
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Ee its 4-4 so im still set to be lynched - any questions for me - its bed time really soon for me
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F keirathi made that huge discussion vote but still didn't commit to anyone, hes actually set to be modkilled/replaced at this point.
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sorry im raelly drunk will wait dopmt
to make opinos
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causwe evrytin gunna be alright
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I heard some feeling now I can ease the pain
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I cannot hear what your saying, when I have a child, I had a feeling, my hanf feelin like 2 baloons
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I have become cnforbatlyu numb
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I was blackout drunk last night watching whose line on youtube naked
am i doing it rite
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Are the votes against me a cruel joke?
Gonzaw flips red and it makes me auto scum
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On November 03 2012 15:49 Crossfire99 wrote:
Yeah so I'm exhausted if you know what I mean. I was here like 2 hours before the deadline and then TL went down unlike something that had no problems staying up. I mean I waited I as long as I could which was like an hour, but I couldn't wait any longer and had to release my thoughts and then peace. Unfortunately TL was still down, so my thoughts never made it to your eyes...
Anyways, good job with the gonzaw kill, vig. Now on to the next topic of today's lynch. Yeah, I still want to lynch Mementoss. See my earlier case plus Adam's elaboration of why his case on keirathi was bad. It is interesting to note that the only two people to vote for keirathi yesterday were gonzaw and mementoss, but keir got no traction cause he was all slippery when wet.
Ok. I need to beat it. See you sometime later.
##Vote: Mementoss
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ask me anything maybe I can clear shit up for you
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Da alphabet game lives on?
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On November 04 2012 05:00 Keirathi wrote:Lol. ##vote: mementoss
classic keirathi
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On November 04 2012 05:06 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 05:00 Keirathi wrote:On November 04 2012 04:58 Mementoss wrote:
case is bad apparently Lol. ##vote: mementoss classic keirathi
If you know what I mean
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On November 04 2012 04:22 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2012 23:11 Mementoss wrote:
ask me anything maybe I can clear shit up for you If you're town, right about now is when you should be trying to show it off. (no not like that you sick fuck) Post cases or analysis. Do you still think Keirathi is scum? Persuade me. What is your interpretation of how Gonzaw was voting for you last night?
There is no persuading you guys no one wants to listen this game, everyone just wants to lurk and jack off in the corner if you know whhat I mean
What do you mean how gonzaw was voting for me? How does it matter, he was voting between 2 town. He had to do something, because otherwise everyone woulda said he was apathetic to the lynch for voting someone that had 0 chance of being lynched. Its loads of WIFOM, and maybe thats what he was going for, making it look as awkward as fuck, so after he eventually died, his death would splash some shit onto me if you know what I mean
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But yeah keirathi is still scum if you know what I mean
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On November 04 2012 05:19 strongandbig wrote:Chezinu calls his "the game", yours is "the case"?
wat
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You know its a good lynch when the replacement blindy sheeps a ninja vote If you know whhat I mean
On November 04 2012 05:58 Stutters695 wrote:
##vote: mementoss
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On November 04 2012 06:07 Blazinghand wrote:
well, bad for you at least
bad for me = bad for the town
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On November 04 2012 06:13 Mementoss wrote:bad for me = bad for the town
If you know what I mean
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On November 04 2012 06:19 Blazinghand wrote:
see you can't just tack on "if you know what I mean" to the end of a sentence that doesn't have an alternative dirting meaning.
Ill tack onto the end of YOU if you know what I mean
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On November 04 2012 06:41 Keirathi wrote:
So Mementoss, you said that you still think I am scum. For the same reasons as your day 1 case?
What about the fact that gonzaw was pressuring me all day? Or that, in turn, I wanted to get him lynched? Or that I was willing to hammer BKE, when I could have just voted gonzaw and not cared about which of you two died?
There are a lot of things that happened since you made that case, and you literally haven't commented on any of them.
Anyone else you find scummy besides me?
Because you had 1 fucking good post all day, right now you are trying to make yourself look good about talking abotu gonzaw. But like everything else you didn't do fucking shit about it. It took you a year to commit to a vote, you hammered a townie congrats. Your 1 good post focused on putting the whole town to either lynch me or BKE, so you forced the whole town into that mentality of BKE vs me, 2 townies. That is scum motivation to cut down everyones view, and to give yourself cred for not committing to jack shit when it came to gonzaw.
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You're whole philsophy this game has been not to commit to anything, just a little, just the tip If you know what I mean
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On November 04 2012 06:56 Mementoss wrote:
You're whole philsophy this game has been not to commit to anything, just a little, just the tip If you know what I mean
what I mean is you want to fuck everyone, without really fucking them too hard.
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But I already half gave up on this game, because everyone has the mentality come in and make 1 post the whole day saying im voting mementoss, like that is going to catch a scum :S. Its basically some bullshit WIFOM that was probably placed purposely. It only takes 1 wolf in sheeps clothing to lead the herd, if you know what I mean
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On November 04 2012 07:04 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 07:00 Mementoss wrote:
But I already half gave up on this game, because everyone has the mentality come in and make 1 post the whole day saying im voting mementoss, like that is going to catch a scum :S. Its basically some bullshit WIFOM that was probably placed purposely. It only takes 1 wolf in sheeps clothing to lead the herd, if you know what I mean Then fucking do something that makes people think that you are town. You're not doing a good job at it at this point. But since you're here, maybe you can comment on this, since you didn't the first time I mentioned it: Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 02:13 Keirathi wrote:On November 02 2012 01:52 Mementoss wrote:
Part II - Doesn't fit the meta
Every game I have played with Keirathi he has been very active and has been a major part in pushing discussion. Even if hes not scumhunting hes pushing discussion in strategic ways. This game has been the very opposite. He is a commentator, active, without pushing discussion to actually find scum. That is all I have to say on this, because meta should just be a supportable part not the main part of a case.
Part 2) *EVERY* game you've played with me? So...just Liquid City and Aperture 2? Two games that were going on at the exact same time and I had vastly different playstyles and time commitments. Hell, the ONLY thing I did in LC on day 1 was yell at kush a bunch, and throw some weak arguments onto kingjames, then afk for 24+ hours.
I could make the worlds greatest case on scum and it wouldnt matter cause no one is here to switch votes, and everyone probably just wont post or disregard it.
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On November 04 2012 07:10 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 07:09 Mementoss wrote:On November 04 2012 07:04 Keirathi wrote:On November 04 2012 07:00 Mementoss wrote:
But I already half gave up on this game, because everyone has the mentality come in and make 1 post the whole day saying im voting mementoss, like that is going to catch a scum :S. Its basically some bullshit WIFOM that was probably placed purposely. It only takes 1 wolf in sheeps clothing to lead the herd, if you know what I mean Then fucking do something that makes people think that you are town. You're not doing a good job at it at this point. But since you're here, maybe you can comment on this, since you didn't the first time I mentioned it: On November 02 2012 02:13 Keirathi wrote:On November 02 2012 01:52 Mementoss wrote:
Part II - Doesn't fit the meta
Every game I have played with Keirathi he has been very active and has been a major part in pushing discussion. Even if hes not scumhunting hes pushing discussion in strategic ways. This game has been the very opposite. He is a commentator, active, without pushing discussion to actually find scum. That is all I have to say on this, because meta should just be a supportable part not the main part of a case.
Part 2) *EVERY* game you've played with me? So...just Liquid City and Aperture 2? Two games that were going on at the exact same time and I had vastly different playstyles and time commitments. Hell, the ONLY thing I did in LC on day 1 was yell at kush a bunch, and throw some weak arguments onto kingjames, then afk for 24+ hours. I could make the worlds greatest case on scum and it wouldnt matter cause no one is here to switch votes, and everyone probably just wont post or disregard it. um there's more than a day until deadline people not being around isn't even a thing
you expect them to come back? They have a townie being lynched. Chezinu is allowed to do whatever he wants he can vote for whoever he wants without reason lol. Replacement doesn't even have to post. k lol.
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On November 02 2012 07:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
For tomorrow's minigame, I suggest "Race to lynch Crossfire!". Game involves voting ASAP and then afk'ing until the lynch. Have a great time guys, and remember, the points don't matter.
This sums up today but switch crossfire with mementoss
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On November 04 2012 07:14 Blazinghand wrote:
You're right mementoss, the proper attitude for you to take in this situation is to do what you're doing now.
Look, I'm a flexible guy. I talk with people. I'll banter, or even interact with you-- if by some horrible mischance, you are town, your thoughts will be valuable, since after you flip you'd be a confirmed townie. If you're scum, of course, you'll avoid meaningful interaction. So why don't we interact and see how things go?
are you saying I should defend the garbage wifom case on me? or try to find the other scum other than keirathi.
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On November 04 2012 07:17 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm saying you should hunt scum.
im gunna need a better gun
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On November 04 2012 07:21 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 07:17 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm saying you should hunt scum. im gunna need a better gun
If you know what I mean
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Hopeless1der is 100% town obviously, I don't know much this game, but that much I know.
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On November 04 2012 23:45 Mementoss wrote:
Hopeless1der is 100% town obviously, I don't know much this game, but that much I know.
If you know what I mean
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On November 04 2012 18:14 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 18:12 Keirathi wrote:On November 04 2012 18:08 strongandbig wrote:On November 04 2012 14:17 Keirathi wrote:On November 04 2012 14:16 Chezinu wrote:On November 04 2012 14:14 Keirathi wrote:On November 04 2012 14:06 Blazinghand wrote:
If you would reconsider your vote and talk about hopeless, all it does is waste our time. I guess it tells us a bit about you but that's it. He's town and you're either blind or willfully not seeing that. I don't even get it dude. Whatever, I'm not going to start an argument with you, because I think you're town and have good intentions. And, I don't even think you're necessarily *WRONG* about Hopeless being town, since I've believed he was town most of the game, but the fact that you're unwilling to reevaluate in light of new information just blows my mind. You think your mind is blown now, just wait a while...if you know what I mean... MUAHahhahahah! You can blow my mind any day, if you know what I'm sayin. *wink* Your mind isn't the only thing that blows around here. Wat?  EBWOP: anyone around to talk things out? I might be a little drunk, but at least I'm honets.
I wish I coulda taken advantage of [red] Keirathi [red] when he was drunk, if you know what I mean either laura hall or cece warall are to track me, if you know what I mean
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On November 04 2012 23:49 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 18:14 Keirathi wrote:On November 04 2012 18:12 Keirathi wrote:On November 04 2012 18:08 strongandbig wrote:On November 04 2012 14:17 Keirathi wrote:On November 04 2012 14:16 Chezinu wrote:On November 04 2012 14:14 Keirathi wrote:On November 04 2012 14:06 Blazinghand wrote:
If you would reconsider your vote and talk about hopeless, all it does is waste our time. I guess it tells us a bit about you but that's it. He's town and you're either blind or willfully not seeing that. I don't even get it dude. Whatever, I'm not going to start an argument with you, because I think you're town and have good intentions. And, I don't even think you're necessarily *WRONG* about Hopeless being town, since I've believed he was town most of the game, but the fact that you're unwilling to reevaluate in light of new information just blows my mind. You think your mind is blown now, just wait a while...if you know what I mean... MUAHahhahahah! You can blow my mind any day, if you know what I'm sayin. *wink* Your mind isn't the only thing that blows around here. Wat? EBWOP: anyone around to talk things out? I might be a little drunk, but at least I'm honets. I wish I coulda taken advantage of Keirathi when he was drunk, if you know what I mean either laura hall or cece warall are to track me, if you know what I mean
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On November 04 2012 14:20 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 14:14 Keirathi wrote:On November 04 2012 14:06 Blazinghand wrote:
If you would reconsider your vote and talk about hopeless, all it does is waste our time. I guess it tells us a bit about you but that's it. He's town and you're either blind or willfully not seeing that. I don't even get it dude. Whatever, I'm not going to start an argument with you, because I think you're town and have good intentions. And, I don't even think you're necessarily *WRONG* about Hopeless being town, since I've believed he was town most of the game, but the fact that you're unwilling to reevaluate in light of new information just blows my mind. I've re-evaluated, and my re-evaluation is that Hopeless is still totally town. I suppose we can agree to disagree, but any vote for Hopeless1 is a vote to lynch a townie, and a vote I cannot abide.
You can re-evaluate me, If you know what I mean
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On November 04 2012 14:39 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah you gotta explore all corners. can't just like get blinded by a townread, dude
You can explore all my corners, If you know what I mean
Use dem big blazing hands of yours 
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On November 04 2012 11:28 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 10:59 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 04 2012 10:57 Keirathi wrote:On November 04 2012 10:47 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 04 2012 10:45 Adam4167 wrote:
Trying to look active there Hopeless?
Assuming Mementoss flips scum, which he will, you're my choice for the 3rd scum. That's fine, we'll get to that later. Let me know what you'd like to question me about in the meantime, if you're so inclined. I've got all the answers you're looking for. So, you ostensibly think that I am town, but you came up with a huge list of reasons why I could be scum to set up my lynch if Mementoss flips town? :o Yes. However, I wouldn't act on them tomorrow unless you did nothing to help town. Being apathetic today doesn't count because we're all looking a little limp, if you know what I'm saying. I...uh...okay? Do I need to explain why that's scummy as hell? Nothing MMToss has done today makes me think that he is town, but you just moved way up my possible scum list.
Maybe I can make you see my town side tonight, if you know what I mean
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On November 04 2012 18:12 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 18:08 strongandbig wrote:On November 04 2012 14:17 Keirathi wrote:On November 04 2012 14:16 Chezinu wrote:On November 04 2012 14:14 Keirathi wrote:On November 04 2012 14:06 Blazinghand wrote:
If you would reconsider your vote and talk about hopeless, all it does is waste our time. I guess it tells us a bit about you but that's it. He's town and you're either blind or willfully not seeing that. I don't even get it dude. Whatever, I'm not going to start an argument with you, because I think you're town and have good intentions. And, I don't even think you're necessarily *WRONG* about Hopeless being town, since I've believed he was town most of the game, but the fact that you're unwilling to reevaluate in light of new information just blows my mind. You think your mind is blown now, just wait a while...if you know what I mean... MUAHahhahahah! You can blow my mind any day, if you know what I'm sayin. *wink* Your mind isn't the only thing that blows around here. Wat?
I bet I could turn that frown upside down for you, If you know what I mean.
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On November 04 2012 10:06 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 10:05 Adam4167 wrote:On November 04 2012 09:53 Chezinu wrote:
Just so you guys know, I can paint with pretty colors..
Mementoss
Djagulingu Stutter695
Crossfire99
Hopeless1der
Adam4167
BroodKingEXE
gonzaw
Keirathi
Blazinghand
strongandbig
Chezinu Chezinu, you thought Mementoss worth your vote yesterday and with everything that has transpired since then, you are now unsure? I kind of don't get that. Just maybe I didn't finish painting.
You can paint me titanic style, If you know what I mean
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On November 04 2012 10:59 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 10:57 Keirathi wrote:On November 04 2012 10:47 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 04 2012 10:45 Adam4167 wrote:
Trying to look active there Hopeless?
Assuming Mementoss flips scum, which he will, you're my choice for the 3rd scum. That's fine, we'll get to that later. Let me know what you'd like to question me about in the meantime, if you're so inclined. I've got all the answers you're looking for. So, you ostensibly think that I am town, but you came up with a huge list of reasons why I could be scum to set up my lynch if Mementoss flips town? :o Yes. However, I wouldn't act on them tomorrow unless you did nothing to help town. Being apathetic today doesn't count because we're all looking a little limp, if you know what I'm saying.
I'm no doctor, but Im pretty sure I could fix that limp, If you know what Im saying
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On November 04 2012 10:07 Adam4167 wrote:
No worries. My painting is finished, it looks very similar to yours, would you like to see it?
I don't care to see your painting, but something else has perked my interest, If you know what I mean
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On November 04 2012 10:16 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 10:15 Chezinu wrote:
Don't you know that you can ask me questions now? Maybe you could respond to S&B's post?
Maybe you could respond to my advances on you, If you know what I mean
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On November 04 2012 06:07 Blazinghand wrote:
but i'm not a rocket scientist
You may not be a rocket scientist, but you can work on my rocket any day, If you know what I mean
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Lets just say I have some experience blowing Drew Carrey's horns, If you know what I mean
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On November 04 2012 23:45 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 23:45 Mementoss wrote:
Hopeless1der is 100% town obviously, I don't know much this game, but that much I know. If you know what I mean
Actually gotta fix this, its pretty damn obvious, hopeless is a comedian, if you know what I mean
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On November 04 2012 04:22 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2012 23:11 Mementoss wrote:
ask me anything maybe I can clear shit up for you If you're town, right about now is when you should be trying to show it off. (no not like that you sick fuck) Post cases or analysis. Do you still think Keirathi is scum? Persuade me. What is your interpretation of how Gonzaw was voting for you last night?
I'll show off but not in an area this public, If you know what I mean
My talking skills haven't persuaded you, but im sure my body could, If you know what I mean
Gonzaw was voting for me, because I put him in the dog house that night, if you know what I mean
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On November 05 2012 00:34 strongandbig wrote:Wow. Literally a whole page of bull shit, if you know what I mean. + Show Spoiler [hint] +I mean that it is bull shit
your looking awfully strong and big, big not in the same context as strong, if you know what I mean
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On November 05 2012 03:18 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't get how there was every any doubt that Mementoss = sexy and Hopeless = town
Thanks dude
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On November 05 2012 01:55 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 01:27 Mementoss wrote:On November 05 2012 00:34 strongandbig wrote:Wow. Literally a whole page of bull shit, if you know what I mean. + Show Spoiler [hint] +I mean that it is bull shit your looking awfully strong and big, big not in the same context as strong, if you know what I mean I'm not sure if this is intended as a compliment, but I appreciate the sentiment I guess? Anyway, it is both strong and big ( + Show Spoiler +more than any hero's geologic change's ). Very strong, and very big indeed.
It was intended as a compliment, if you know whhat I mean
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On November 05 2012 01:46 strongandbig wrote:So it appears that Mementoss has decided to claim scum, and it looks like we're falling into the trap of letting a pretty-much-decided lynch keep us away from actually doing any scumhunting. That's not a good thing for town - just look at Liquid City, where town got handed two scum lynches by good blue play, but let its momentum die out and still lost the game. So let's try and get this thread moving a bit.
First a few questions: - Stutters: I get that plowing through day1 is hard because of the rhyme game, but you've had some time so I would really like something from you other than the mementoss-Adam connection stuff and complaining about Chezinu. Believe me, we all feel the same way about Chezinu, but since he won't actually provide his reasoning for stuff like his claim plan or his D1 ninja vote on Mementoss I don't really know what to do about him. Chezinu actually plays like this all the time, regardless of alignment. So do you have any other potential scum reads? Or do you want to build up a case on Adam based on his posting or his actions, rather than the connection theory with Mementoss? - Hopeless: You've been rocking the innuendo game, but I don't see much coming out of you yet today (not that anyone has seen much coming out of you, if you know what I mean) besides the innuendos and your Keirathi thing. Yesterday you attacked crossfire for voting then afk'ing (or at least, I assume that's what you meant by + Show Spoiler +On November 02 2012 07:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
For tomorrow's minigame, I suggest "Race to lynch Crossfire!". Game involves voting ASAP and then afk'ing until the lynch. Have a great time guys, and remember, the points don't matter. ). How do you feel about crossfire right now based on his posting? Additionally, do you think he could be Mementoss's buddy if Mementoss flips scum? - Chezinu: If you don't want to explain why you ninja voted Mementoss yesterday, then how about this - who do you think could be his scum partner? I'd appreciate it if you provided some reasoning other than your colored list.
Now, some of my own thoughts: - I was reading through Crossfire's filter to think about asking him a question, but I found some stuff in there that I very much don't like. For one thing, there's the overall fluffiness or what people have been calling his "poetry" - I think it was perfectly possible to play within the minigame restriction while still making total sense and expressing ideas in a clear and concise manner. Show nested quote + My meta is completely destroyed because this game makes it much too fun to post all these sentences with ascending acrostic alphabetic beginnings. No, I say look at one's posts in this game to determine alignment. I don't like this comment. Why should you be worried about staying in your "meta" - for one thing, you have like 200 posts, so how much meta can there be? For another thing I would expect anyone doing a meta read to take into account the unique circumstances of this game. It's weird that you call attention to and excuse a difference from an imagined "meta". Then from earlier in his filter there's Show nested quote +
Really, what I was trying to say before I was so rudely interrupted was just that this posting restriction is making me feel like gonzaw with all these posts I'm making, and I can see the appeal of playing like this.
- more being all like "guys i'ma post so much!" - but his filter is really not very long. (You know what else of his isn't very long?) Like, there was no need to draw everyone's attention to the fact that he was posting a lot unless he's worried that people would accuse him of not posting enough. then later on there's this: Show nested quote +
Ah, a wild Chezinu appears! Before it gets too long I must catch up to post my thoughts. Chezinu, if I include myself along with you, audience members now number two.
Doubtful am I that claiming will be useful because those evil musicians will just pretend to be one of us. Eventually we will see everyone's colors bright as can be. For all that is required is some meditative thought once all have played in this little alphabet game.
This is a really weird thing to do. In the exact same breath, tell someone their plan is bad, and also go along with it. That said, this may well have been an optimal scum response to Chezinu's plan - we all agreed that scum would have to claim VT, but by doing it early he fits in and his claim gets cred if people follow Chezinu's plan, while simultaneously he comes out against it so he's on the right side of popular opinion if everyone else says "wtf chezinu your plan is scummy and terrible". (scummy and terrible - just like "the game" right?) ( + Show Spoiler +in case you didn't get it the first time (check my filter) "the game" is what Chezinu calls his penis. ) Finally, there's one less significant thing that I still want to call attention to. (well, less significant than the rest of my case. Still more significant than crossfire's success with the opposite gender.) Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 01:37 Crossfire99 wrote:
Just to clarify, Hopeless, I did claim; but did I do that to take the heat off of blues, or am I actually a blue trying to claim VT to sneak under the radar (really over the radar with the way I've been posting)? Keep on guessing because I might not have even read my role PM myself. Lol. Maybe I should do that. Novel idea I had, to play without checking my role PM. Oh the possibilities! Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 01:50 Crossfire99 wrote:
Xfire has now checked his role PM, so his win condition is clear to him. You will no longer see that from me because I guess I do have the possibility of playing against my role PM. Zorry for that, strong. The interesting thing here is that in the first post, he "proposed" the idea that in the future he might play without reading his role PM (which, by the way, is a really weird thing to write a post about in the first place - more fluff, I guess?) but then after I yell at him about it, he claims that he just checked his role PM for the first time. I don't believe for a second that he actually played that far into the game without checking his role PM, but why would he phrase his response to me like that? I think it's because he was trying to be super-conciliatory after I yelled at him; he probably guessed that saying "okay I checked it" was the most direct way to get me off his back, when he should have said "I didn't try that this game, in the future I will not play like that." Again, this last point is less significant, but it is a discrepancy and I think there is a scum motivation for it. The main counterpoint to this case, that I can see, is (if Mementoss flips scum) the fact that crossfire voted for Mementoss yesterday. However, I'm not convinced that means very much. Don't forget, Gonzaw made sure that Mementoss wouldn't be lynched yesterday with his weird voting behavior. I could totally see a scum team tripping itself up like that if two of the players voted early (or committed early to voting, in Gonzaw's case) for their teammate, and then had to backpedal furiously when it turned out that he might actually get lynched. Anyway, this is only relevant if Mementoss flips scum.
Didn't read, if you know what I mean
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On November 05 2012 03:39 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 03:18 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't get how there was every any doubt that Mementoss = scum and Hopeless = town Sometimes people just want to see a 'good performance' .
I haven't seen you give a bad performance since our first time, if you know what I mean
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On November 05 2012 03:39 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 03:18 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't get how there was every any doubt that Mementoss = scum and Hopeless = town Sometimes people just want to see a 'good performance' @SnB - I was actually attacking Crossfire because I thought he was BKE's scumbuddy at that point. When you say MMT has claimed scum, you mean the way he's given up and is just spamming in-your-endo's? I almost 100% agree with Chezinu's painting, its very lifelike. Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 09:53 Chezinu wrote:
Just so you guys know, I can paint with pretty colors..
Mementoss
Djagulingu Stutter695
Crossfire99
Hopeless1der
Adam4167
BroodKingEXE
gonzaw
Keirathi
Blazinghand
strongandbig
Chezinu We presumably know the number of scum = 3 3 Scum (1 confirmed) 4 Performers (1 confirmed) 3 Audience 1 Host =11 Players Total Potential for 4 Audience/No Host based on setup speculation That means its currently 7v2 or 6v2v1. Chezinu thinks he's got all the audience. I'm not convinced on Crossfire in that list but I am confident that MMT is either Black or Red. gonzaw's shenanigans makes him being red far more likely. Then again, what to make of this: Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 00:05 Mementoss wrote:
Lets just say I have some experience blowing Drew Carrey's horns, If you know what I mean MMT, don't pull a BKE if you don't have to. Open up a little more. I promise it won't hurt, much.
I already pulled BKE, If you know what I mean
Thats not the first time you've asked me to open up a little more for you, If you know what I mean
I didn't claim scum I claimed horn player, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN
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I have the most posts in the game, my alignment, is Obvious , If you know what I mean
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On November 05 2012 03:39 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 03:18 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't get how there was every any doubt that Mementoss = scum and Hopeless = town Sometimes people just want to see a 'good performance' @SnB - I was actually attacking Crossfire because I thought he was BKE's scumbuddy at that point. When you say MMT has claimed scum, you mean the way he's given up and is just spamming in-your-endo's? I almost 100% agree with Chezinu's painting, its very lifelike. Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 09:53 Chezinu wrote:
Just so you guys know, I can paint with pretty colors..
Mementoss
Djagulingu Stutter695
Crossfire99
Hopeless1der
Adam4167
BroodKingEXE
gonzaw
Keirathi
Blazinghand
strongandbig
Chezinu We presumably know the number of scum = 3 3 Scum (1 confirmed) 4 Performers (1 confirmed) 3 Audience 1 Host =11 Players Total Potential for 4 Audience/No Host based on setup speculation That means its currently 7v2 or 6v2v1. Chezinu thinks he's got all the audience. I'm not convinced on Crossfire in that list but I am confident that MMT is either Black or Red. gonzaw's shenanigans makes him being red far more likely. Then again, what to make of this: Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 00:05 Mementoss wrote:
Lets just say I have some experience blowing Drew Carrey's horns, If you know what I mean MMT, don't pull a BKE if you don't have to. Open up a little more. I promise it won't hurt, much.
But for serious I think its pretty obvious what I meant by that and looking at the fucking night 1, if you know what I mean
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Im feeling a little hopeless at the moment, if you know what i mean
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On November 05 2012 03:56 Stutters695 wrote:
I'll have a case in an hour or two but just for clarity I don't think Adam is scum right now. Was just pointing out how obvious what mementoss was saying was in hopes he'd add to it and give us something.
Oh I'll give you something, but it might not be something you enjoy, if you know what I meant
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On November 05 2012 03:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
A horn is a type of instrument MMT...seriously, you WANT to die?
Im already dead, at least I fucked one player over in the third faction in the process, if you know what I mean
+ Show Spoiler [if you know what I mean] +
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On November 05 2012 03:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
A horn is a type of instrument MMT...seriously, you WANT to die?
Does my horn playing make you horny
Why are you not replying to my advances on you
my heart
is breaking
at the thought
of us not being together
So I wrote you a poem. Cause writing poems is the type of thing a guy like me would do.
+ Show Spoiler [For Hopeless Eyes only please] +Oh hopeless,
You make me feel, so hopeless
Its like the world, is popeless
Hopeless,
You were impress by my E-Peen,
But than we started doing things not clean,
If you know what I mean
Hopeless,
You used to enjoy to take,
But now your acting like a fake,
And I can't play the horn for your trousersnake
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Igrok, If you know what I mean
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Oh yeah there is a bomb in my horn so have fun if your voting for me
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+ Show Spoiler +On November 03 2012 11:09 iGrok wrote:Night 1 Ok, lets move on to a new game - "If You Know What I Mean"! The way this game works is very simple, each person tries to use as many innuendos and euphemisms as possible. Whoever uses the most and/or funniest gets the most points! Of course, since they don't matter, who cares!Unfortunately, it seems that [green]gonzaw Linda Taylor[/gree] is missing.
You are Linda Taylor, the multi-instrumentalist on Whose Line Is It Anyway! Your talents are unmatched, but you get almost no recognition, and you are fed up with the performers stealing all the spotlight! That is why you and your fellow musicians have grouped together to take out the four performers, and any audience members who get in your way! Your teammates are REDACTED (Cece Worral) and REDACTED (Laura Hall). Your QT is http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/TrOlOlOl
Day ends in 48 hours! Remember to vote!
How the fuck does gonzaw flipping town incriminate me again?
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On November 05 2012 04:53 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 03:18 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't get how there was every any doubt that Mementoss = scum and Hopeless = town umm, hopefully you had some doubt yesterday, seeing as Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 08:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Know I am here, Mementoss! Lo, I consolidate onto ##vote: BKEXE. My vote will prevent your horrible mislynch. No way is Mementoss Lynch a good idea today. i just wanted to give him a careful read-through before we lynch him, so i did. Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 03:39 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 05 2012 03:18 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't get how there was every any doubt that Mementoss = scum and Hopeless = town Sometimes people just want to see a 'good performance' @SnB - I was actually attacking Crossfire because I thought he was BKE's scumbuddy at that point. When you say MMT has claimed scum, you mean the way he's given up and is just spamming in-your-endo's? I almost 100% agree with Chezinu's painting, its very lifelike. On November 04 2012 09:53 Chezinu wrote:
Just so you guys know, I can paint with pretty colors..
Mementoss
Djagulingu Stutter695
Crossfire99
Hopeless1der
Adam4167
BroodKingEXE
gonzaw
Keirathi
Blazinghand
strongandbig
Chezinu We presumably know the number of scum = 3 3 Scum (1 confirmed) 4 Performers (1 confirmed) 3 Audience 1 Host =11 Players Total Potential for 4 Audience/No Host based on setup speculation That means its currently 7v2 or 6v2v1. Chezinu thinks he's got all the audience. I'm not convinced on Crossfire in that list but I am confident that MMT is either Black or Red. gonzaw's shenanigans makes him being red far more likely. Yeah so what do you think of Crossfire right now? Think I might have a point? Or is there someone else you have a better read on for the (second/third) scum? and yes that is what I meant about mementoss claiming scum
MMM hot damn, strong n big giving me a careful look over, If you know what I mean
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I think the sheer amount of jokes I cracked today PROVES that I'm Mementoss
The Colin "Stiles" Brady
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I'm actually Mementoss - The Buffalo Soldier
iGrok put in weird flavours for the audience to get rid of the mass claim possibility. I will prove it to you. I bread crumbed it.
On November 03 2012 09:38 Mementoss wrote:
buffalo soilder
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On November 05 2012 05:05 Blazinghand wrote:
Mementoss sex may have been a bad idea D1 but it's the best of all possible ideas D2. I never said I was perfect-- just that I'm right now, like I always am.
Thanks dude.
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On November 05 2012 05:06 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 05:05 Blazinghand wrote:
Mementoss sex may have been a bad idea D1 but it's the best of all possible ideas D2. I never said I was perfect-- just that I'm right now, like I always am. Thanks dude.
I wonder if Drew Carrey actually did have sex with Cece Worral in real life.
If you know what I mean.
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On November 05 2012 06:16 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 01:46 strongandbig wrote:Now, some of my own thoughts: - I was reading through Crossfire's filter to think about asking him a question, but I found some stuff in there that I very much don't like. For one thing, there's the overall fluffiness or what people have been calling his "poetry" - I think it was perfectly possible to play within the minigame restriction while still making total sense and expressing ideas in a clear and concise manner. My meta is completely destroyed because this game makes it much too fun to post all these sentences with ascending acrostic alphabetic beginnings. No, I say look at one's posts in this game to determine alignment. I don't like this comment. Why should you be worried about staying in your "meta" - for one thing, you have like 200 posts, so how much meta can there be? For another thing I would expect anyone doing a meta read to take into account the unique circumstances of this game. It's weird that you call attention to and excuse a difference from an imagined "meta". Then from earlier in his filter there's
Really, what I was trying to say before I was so rudely interrupted was just that this posting restriction is making me feel like gonzaw with all these posts I'm making, and I can see the appeal of playing like this.
- more being all like "guys i'ma post so much!" - but his filter is really not very long. (You know what else of his isn't very long?) Like, there was no need to draw everyone's attention to the fact that he was posting a lot unless he's worried that people would accuse him of not posting enough. then later on there's this:
Ah, a wild Chezinu appears! Before it gets too long I must catch up to post my thoughts. Chezinu, if I include myself along with you, audience members now number two.
Doubtful am I that claiming will be useful because those evil musicians will just pretend to be one of us. Eventually we will see everyone's colors bright as can be. For all that is required is some meditative thought once all have played in this little alphabet game.
This is a really weird thing to do. In the exact same breath, tell someone their plan is bad, and also go along with it. That said, this may well have been an optimal scum response to Chezinu's plan - we all agreed that scum would have to claim VT, but by doing it early he fits in and his claim gets cred if people follow Chezinu's plan, while simultaneously he comes out against it so he's on the right side of popular opinion if everyone else says "wtf chezinu your plan is scummy and terrible". (scummy and terrible - just like "the game" right?) ( + Show Spoiler +in case you didn't get it the first time (check my filter) "the game" is what Chezinu calls his penis. ) Finally, there's one less significant thing that I still want to call attention to. (well, less significant than the rest of my case. Still more significant than crossfire's success with the opposite gender.) On November 01 2012 01:37 Crossfire99 wrote:
Just to clarify, Hopeless, I did claim; but did I do that to take the heat off of blues, or am I actually a blue trying to claim VT to sneak under the radar (really over the radar with the way I've been posting)? Keep on guessing because I might not have even read my role PM myself. Lol. Maybe I should do that. Novel idea I had, to play without checking my role PM. Oh the possibilities! On November 01 2012 01:50 Crossfire99 wrote:
Xfire has now checked his role PM, so his win condition is clear to him. You will no longer see that from me because I guess I do have the possibility of playing against my role PM. Zorry for that, strong. The interesting thing here is that in the first post, he "proposed" the idea that in the future he might play without reading his role PM (which, by the way, is a really weird thing to write a post about in the first place - more fluff, I guess?) but then after I yell at him about it, he claims that he just checked his role PM for the first time. I don't believe for a second that he actually played that far into the game without checking his role PM, but why would he phrase his response to me like that? I think it's because he was trying to be super-conciliatory after I yelled at him; he probably guessed that saying "okay I checked it" was the most direct way to get me off his back, when he should have said "I didn't try that this game, in the future I will not play like that." Again, this last point is less significant, but it is a discrepancy and I think there is a scum motivation for it. The main counterpoint to this case, that I can see, is (if Mementoss flips scum) the fact that crossfire voted for Mementoss yesterday. However, I'm not convinced that means very much. Don't forget, Gonzaw made sure that Mementoss wouldn't be lynched yesterday with his weird voting behavior. I could totally see a scum team tripping itself up like that if two of the players voted early (or committed early to voting, in Gonzaw's case) for their teammate, and then had to backpedal furiously when it turned out that he might actually get lynched. Anyway, this is only relevant if Mementoss flips scum. You're right that I got carried away with alphabet game. I think if you look at my posts later in the day, I tried to word stuff better once blazing pointed out that I was being retarded about it. I made the meta point because adam jumped on brood early in the game because of meta and it seemed to be a focus early on. Also, if you would believe it, someone in my 3rd newbie game made a meta analysis on me based on my 2 previous newbie games lol. I pointed that out myself because I feel meta was going to be less useful as a tool this game due to the games that would occur each day and I used myself as example of how I am playing completely differently than I ever did previously. Also, if you would believe it, this is the most I've posted day 1 in any of my games. And I've been blue, green, red, and black before. Also about all those posts dealing with claiming. I never "proposed" that I play without checking my role PM for future games. I "proposed" that I had played without checking my role pm up until that point this game. The reason why I apologized to you strong was because when you told me Drazerk tried that once and you really hated that because you have a good possibility of playing against your win condition, I realized I never ever want any part of my game to resemble anything that Drazerk does. That scared me. Also, I'll answer your last point now because I'm pretty confident that Mementoss is scum. So you're not going to give me any credit for my case on Mementoss? I'm pretty sure I was the first one to bring up Mementoss's scummy behavior. Adam then elaborated on it. That's why I voted for him.
+ Show Spoiler [If you know what I mean] +
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On November 05 2012 06:45 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 06:22 Mementoss wrote:On November 05 2012 06:16 Crossfire99 wrote:On November 05 2012 01:46 strongandbig wrote:Now, some of my own thoughts: - I was reading through Crossfire's filter to think about asking him a question, but I found some stuff in there that I very much don't like. For one thing, there's the overall fluffiness or what people have been calling his "poetry" - I think it was perfectly possible to play within the minigame restriction while still making total sense and expressing ideas in a clear and concise manner. My meta is completely destroyed because this game makes it much too fun to post all these sentences with ascending acrostic alphabetic beginnings. No, I say look at one's posts in this game to determine alignment. I don't like this comment. Why should you be worried about staying in your "meta" - for one thing, you have like 200 posts, so how much meta can there be? For another thing I would expect anyone doing a meta read to take into account the unique circumstances of this game. It's weird that you call attention to and excuse a difference from an imagined "meta". Then from earlier in his filter there's
Really, what I was trying to say before I was so rudely interrupted was just that this posting restriction is making me feel like gonzaw with all these posts I'm making, and I can see the appeal of playing like this.
- more being all like "guys i'ma post so much!" - but his filter is really not very long. (You know what else of his isn't very long?) Like, there was no need to draw everyone's attention to the fact that he was posting a lot unless he's worried that people would accuse him of not posting enough. then later on there's this:
Ah, a wild Chezinu appears! Before it gets too long I must catch up to post my thoughts. Chezinu, if I include myself along with you, audience members now number two.
Doubtful am I that claiming will be useful because those evil musicians will just pretend to be one of us. Eventually we will see everyone's colors bright as can be. For all that is required is some meditative thought once all have played in this little alphabet game.
This is a really weird thing to do. In the exact same breath, tell someone their plan is bad, and also go along with it. That said, this may well have been an optimal scum response to Chezinu's plan - we all agreed that scum would have to claim VT, but by doing it early he fits in and his claim gets cred if people follow Chezinu's plan, while simultaneously he comes out against it so he's on the right side of popular opinion if everyone else says "wtf chezinu your plan is scummy and terrible". (scummy and terrible - just like "the game" right?) ( + Show Spoiler +in case you didn't get it the first time (check my filter) "the game" is what Chezinu calls his penis. ) Finally, there's one less significant thing that I still want to call attention to. (well, less significant than the rest of my case. Still more significant than crossfire's success with the opposite gender.) On November 01 2012 01:37 Crossfire99 wrote:
Just to clarify, Hopeless, I did claim; but did I do that to take the heat off of blues, or am I actually a blue trying to claim VT to sneak under the radar (really over the radar with the way I've been posting)? Keep on guessing because I might not have even read my role PM myself. Lol. Maybe I should do that. Novel idea I had, to play without checking my role PM. Oh the possibilities! On November 01 2012 01:50 Crossfire99 wrote:
Xfire has now checked his role PM, so his win condition is clear to him. You will no longer see that from me because I guess I do have the possibility of playing against my role PM. Zorry for that, strong. The interesting thing here is that in the first post, he "proposed" the idea that in the future he might play without reading his role PM (which, by the way, is a really weird thing to write a post about in the first place - more fluff, I guess?) but then after I yell at him about it, he claims that he just checked his role PM for the first time. I don't believe for a second that he actually played that far into the game without checking his role PM, but why would he phrase his response to me like that? I think it's because he was trying to be super-conciliatory after I yelled at him; he probably guessed that saying "okay I checked it" was the most direct way to get me off his back, when he should have said "I didn't try that this game, in the future I will not play like that." Again, this last point is less significant, but it is a discrepancy and I think there is a scum motivation for it. The main counterpoint to this case, that I can see, is (if Mementoss flips scum) the fact that crossfire voted for Mementoss yesterday. However, I'm not convinced that means very much. Don't forget, Gonzaw made sure that Mementoss wouldn't be lynched yesterday with his weird voting behavior. I could totally see a scum team tripping itself up like that if two of the players voted early (or committed early to voting, in Gonzaw's case) for their teammate, and then had to backpedal furiously when it turned out that he might actually get lynched. Anyway, this is only relevant if Mementoss flips scum. You're right that I got carried away with alphabet game. I think if you look at my posts later in the day, I tried to word stuff better once blazing pointed out that I was being retarded about it. I made the meta point because adam jumped on brood early in the game because of meta and it seemed to be a focus early on. Also, if you would believe it, someone in my 3rd newbie game made a meta analysis on me based on my 2 previous newbie games lol. I pointed that out myself because I feel meta was going to be less useful as a tool this game due to the games that would occur each day and I used myself as example of how I am playing completely differently than I ever did previously. Also, if you would believe it, this is the most I've posted day 1 in any of my games. And I've been blue, green, red, and black before. Also about all those posts dealing with claiming. I never "proposed" that I play without checking my role PM for future games. I "proposed" that I had played without checking my role pm up until that point this game. The reason why I apologized to you strong was because when you told me Drazerk tried that once and you really hated that because you have a good possibility of playing against your win condition, I realized I never ever want any part of my game to resemble anything that Drazerk does. That scared me. Also, I'll answer your last point now because I'm pretty confident that Mementoss is scum. So you're not going to give me any credit for my case on Mementoss? I'm pretty sure I was the first one to bring up Mementoss's scummy behavior. Adam then elaborated on it. That's why I voted for him. + Show Spoiler [If you know what I mean] + Mementoss, there's no need to be a wanker. I know what you are: + Show Spoiler [If you know what I mean] +
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On November 05 2012 06:58 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 01:46 strongandbig wrote:
So it appears that Mementoss has decided to claim scum, and it looks like we're falling into the trap of letting a pretty-much-decided lynch keep us away from actually doing any scumhunting. That's not a good thing for town - just look at Liquid City, where town got handed two scum lynches by good blue play, but let its momentum die out and still lost the game. So let's try and get this thread moving a bit.
- Stutters: I get that plowing through day1 is hard because of the rhyme game, but you've had some time so I would really like something from you other than the mementoss-Adam connection stuff and complaining about Chezinu. Believe me, we all feel the same way about Chezinu, but since he won't actually provide his reasoning for stuff like his claim plan or his D1 ninja vote on Mementoss I don't really know what to do about him. Chezinu actually plays like this all the time, regardless of alignment. So do you have any other potential scum reads? Or do you want to build up a case on Adam based on his posting or his actions, rather than the connection theory with Mementoss?
I'm becoming more suspicious of Crossfire for a few reasons you didn't mention as well as some of your own. I agree with your analysis of his fluff and the strangeness of the meta comment but I don't think the thing about the role PM is really indicative at all. In the newbie games I've played a few people have done that or at least said they were going to do that resulted in it being a null tell. I can't see anything that we could use to figure out his role. One more speculative addition to the meta comment though is that he has no scum games to begin with.so it would make sense to me that he would try to preemptively point out the deviation from his town meta since he can't fall back on "this isn't my scum meta either." I don't really consider that strong at all. Now my additional points (since you covered the major concrete stuff) are mostly speculation based off of the assumption that there is no way in hell Mementoss will flip town with his d2 play. On the very small offchance he doesn't my focus would immediately shift to Adam. This + Show Spoiler +On November 01 2012 12:08 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 08:00 Mementoss wrote:On November 01 2012 06:20 Crossfire99 wrote:
Yeah, so you see me as more likely town, so you vote for me? -_- ???????
That's not scummy at all... -obviously didnt read all of my post, and a pretty defensive reaction over 2 votes this early imo Haha, don't make me laugh, mementoss; I read your post and now I guess I need to explain it to you.
Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 06:08 Mementoss wrote:
I half agree to what you say about crossfire too blazinghand. His posts were unreadable thats for sure. I had to re-read several paragraphs 3 times before I even understood what the point was, and then it didn't even deliverable the point well -_-. I agree I could have explained myself better; I got carried away in the beginning of this game and will try to do better going forward. Judging right here that even with all that crap I wrote which was confusing and weird, you think that is is more likely that I am town. Let me explain what "more likely" means. "More likely" means that given two options, one has a better chance of being true when compared to the other. Now you already stated that it is more likely that I am town, but now you need to say what the other option is, (the option that has a worse chance of being true). Show nested quote +but I also think there is a possibility he started posting these long unreadable fluffy statements, so that maybe someone else would follow his ridiculous posting style and muck up the town completely. Thats scum intereference. Also, he actually looks to the non-reader, that he is contributing more than most, when really, hes more interested in literary skills and looking town, than actually finding scum. Oh, here you explain what that option with the worse chance of being true is; the option in which I am scum. Show nested quote +Gunna lay down a vote Xfire atm. Need to re-read the thread and consider all the options, I have been either asleep or at work for this whole thread thus far.
##Vote Crossfire Proved I just did why your vote doesn't line up with your thought. Questioning my alignment is good. Revealing that you think it is more probable that I am town than scum and then voting for me is bad reasoning for a vote. So I hope I explained that well enough to your likening, mementoss.
Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 08:00 Mementoss wrote:U BH, I said, I can see where your coming from how it seems townie, but I was ultimately voting him because I could also see where he could be doing it as scum - looking like contributing, - acknoledges moost of it was fluff when called out, -but why post fluff pirposely if you are town - as I said in my post, I need to re-read the thread and it isn't a strong scum read by any means - if your looking for people not reading the thread, look no further - On November 01 2012 06:20 Crossfire99 wrote:
Yeah, so you see me as more likely town, so you vote for me? -_- ???????
That's not scummy at all... -obviously didnt read all of my post, and a pretty defensive reaction over 2 votes this early imo Then when you go to defend yourself, you say you're voting me because you could see me doing what i did as scum but its not a strong read. Uh huh, yeah you kinda already said that and I kinda already said why it's crazy using your words of "more likely xfire posting as town." Voting for me while thinking I'm more likely town than scum is scummy. interaction between Mementoss and Crossfire really didn't sit well with me. When I was going through his recent posts he kept referring back to his "case" and the fact that Mementoss ignored Adam's criticism of Mem's Keirathi case. His case however is based off of what could be a scumslip but could just as easily be explained by Mem feeling that even though he might be town the posting style and potential for scum is worth it (BH actually defends Mem from this case the post after Cross calls him out initially). In addition to a case being based off of a debatable interpretation the whole thing feels somewhat orchestrated to me. He throws some big posts around that accuse Mementoss without really challenging him. It makes him still appear confrontational but in those two giant posts he doesn't accuse him of being scum outside of an offhanded comment when he first calls him out. Finally, he doesn't even vote him until a day later when the deadline is approaching and he hasn't given any analysis on someone else to avoid voting Mementoss. If that line was so scummy why wouldn't he have voted him at the time and tried to get an answer instead of waiting? The only thing that really gives me pause to this idea is both that his vote actually put Mementoss ahead 4-3 and this feels somewhat elaborate and unnecessary at the time. The delayed vote and the weakness of why he is voting him while claiming that BKExe's "brain farts" make him a null tell feels off. Moving past this post however his only comments since then have all revolved around either his "case" or how he thinks Adam is right calling BS on the Keirathi case. Feels to me like he is trying to ride that "case" as long as he can for town cred without actually contributing. All of these things together just feels too off to me for him to be town. Townies obviously make mistakes but I'm struggling to find town motivation for all of these topics.
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On November 05 2012 06:58 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 01:46 strongandbig wrote:
So it appears that Mementoss has decided to claim scum, and it looks like we're falling into the trap of letting a pretty-much-decided lynch keep us away from actually doing any scumhunting. That's not a good thing for town - just look at Liquid City, where town got handed two scum lynches by good blue play, but let its momentum die out and still lost the game. So let's try and get this thread moving a bit.
- Stutters: I get that plowing through day1 is hard because of the rhyme game, but you've had some time so I would really like something from you other than the mementoss-Adam connection stuff and complaining about Chezinu. Believe me, we all feel the same way about Chezinu, but since he won't actually provide his reasoning for stuff like his claim plan or his D1 ninja vote on Mementoss I don't really know what to do about him. Chezinu actually plays like this all the time, regardless of alignment. So do you have any other potential scum reads? Or do you want to build up a case on Adam based on his posting or his actions, rather than the connection theory with Mementoss?
I'm becoming more suspicious of Crossfire for a few reasons you didn't mention as well as some of your own. I agree with your analysis of his fluff and the strangeness of the meta comment but I don't think the thing about the role PM is really indicative at all. In the newbie games I've played a few people have done that or at least said they were going to do that resulted in it being a null tell. I can't see anything that we could use to figure out his role. One more speculative addition to the meta comment though is that he has no scum games to begin with.so it would make sense to me that he would try to preemptively point out the deviation from his town meta since he can't fall back on "this isn't my scum meta either." I don't really consider that strong at all. Now my additional points (since you covered the major concrete stuff) are mostly speculation based off of the assumption that there is no way in hell Mementoss will flip town with his d2 play. On the very small offchance he doesn't my focus would immediately shift to Adam. This + Show Spoiler +On November 01 2012 12:08 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 08:00 Mementoss wrote:On November 01 2012 06:20 Crossfire99 wrote:
Yeah, so you see me as more likely town, so you vote for me? -_- ???????
That's not scummy at all... -obviously didnt read all of my post, and a pretty defensive reaction over 2 votes this early imo Haha, don't make me laugh, mementoss; I read your post and now I guess I need to explain it to you.
Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 06:08 Mementoss wrote:
I half agree to what you say about crossfire too blazinghand. His posts were unreadable thats for sure. I had to re-read several paragraphs 3 times before I even understood what the point was, and then it didn't even deliverable the point well -_-. I agree I could have explained myself better; I got carried away in the beginning of this game and will try to do better going forward. Judging right here that even with all that crap I wrote which was confusing and weird, you think that is is more likely that I am town. Let me explain what "more likely" means. "More likely" means that given two options, one has a better chance of being true when compared to the other. Now you already stated that it is more likely that I am town, but now you need to say what the other option is, (the option that has a worse chance of being true). Show nested quote +but I also think there is a possibility he started posting these long unreadable fluffy statements, so that maybe someone else would follow his ridiculous posting style and muck up the town completely. Thats scum intereference. Also, he actually looks to the non-reader, that he is contributing more than most, when really, hes more interested in literary skills and looking town, than actually finding scum. Oh, here you explain what that option with the worse chance of being true is; the option in which I am scum. Show nested quote +Gunna lay down a vote Xfire atm. Need to re-read the thread and consider all the options, I have been either asleep or at work for this whole thread thus far.
##Vote Crossfire Proved I just did why your vote doesn't line up with your thought. Questioning my alignment is good. Revealing that you think it is more probable that I am town than scum and then voting for me is bad reasoning for a vote. So I hope I explained that well enough to your likening, mementoss.
Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 08:00 Mementoss wrote:U BH, I said, I can see where your coming from how it seems townie, but I was ultimately voting him because I could also see where he could be doing it as scum - looking like contributing, - acknoledges moost of it was fluff when called out, -but why post fluff pirposely if you are town - as I said in my post, I need to re-read the thread and it isn't a strong scum read by any means - if your looking for people not reading the thread, look no further - On November 01 2012 06:20 Crossfire99 wrote:
Yeah, so you see me as more likely town, so you vote for me? -_- ???????
That's not scummy at all... -obviously didnt read all of my post, and a pretty defensive reaction over 2 votes this early imo Then when you go to defend yourself, you say you're voting me because you could see me doing what i did as scum but its not a strong read. Uh huh, yeah you kinda already said that and I kinda already said why it's crazy using your words of "more likely xfire posting as town." Voting for me while thinking I'm more likely town than scum is scummy. interaction between Mementoss and Crossfire really didn't sit well with me. When I was going through his recent posts he kept referring back to his "case" and the fact that Mementoss ignored Adam's criticism of Mem's Keirathi case. His case however is based off of what could be a scumslip but could just as easily be explained by Mem feeling that even though he might be town the posting style and potential for scum is worth it (BH actually defends Mem from this case the post after Cross calls him out initially). In addition to a case being based off of a debatable interpretation the whole thing feels somewhat orchestrated to me. He throws some big posts around that accuse Mementoss without really challenging him. It makes him still appear confrontational but in those two giant posts he doesn't accuse him of being scum outside of an offhanded comment when he first calls him out. Finally, he doesn't even vote him until a day later when the deadline is approaching and he hasn't given any analysis on someone else to avoid voting Mementoss. If that line was so scummy why wouldn't he have voted him at the time and tried to get an answer instead of waiting? The only thing that really gives me pause to this idea is both that his vote actually put Mementoss ahead 4-3 and this feels somewhat elaborate and unnecessary at the time. The delayed vote and the weakness of why he is voting him while claiming that BKExe's "brain farts" make him a null tell feels off. Moving past this post however his only comments since then have all revolved around either his "case" or how he thinks Adam is right calling BS on the Keirathi case. Feels to me like he is trying to ride that "case" as long as he can for town cred without actually contributing. All of these things together just feels too off to me for him to be town. Townies obviously make mistakes but I'm struggling to find town motivation for all of these topics.
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On November 05 2012 07:56 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 06:58 Stutters695 wrote:On November 05 2012 01:46 strongandbig wrote:
So it appears that Mementoss has decided to claim scum, and it looks like we're falling into the trap of letting a pretty-much-decided lynch keep us away from actually doing any scumhunting. That's not a good thing for town - just look at Liquid City, where town got handed two scum lynches by good blue play, but let its momentum die out and still lost the game. So let's try and get this thread moving a bit.
- Stutters: I get that plowing through day1 is hard because of the rhyme game, but you've had some time so I would really like something from you other than the mementoss-Adam connection stuff and complaining about Chezinu. Believe me, we all feel the same way about Chezinu, but since he won't actually provide his reasoning for stuff like his claim plan or his D1 ninja vote on Mementoss I don't really know what to do about him. Chezinu actually plays like this all the time, regardless of alignment. So do you have any other potential scum reads? Or do you want to build up a case on Adam based on his posting or his actions, rather than the connection theory with Mementoss?
I'm becoming more suspicious of Crossfire for a few reasons you didn't mention as well as some of your own. I agree with your analysis of his fluff and the strangeness of the meta comment but I don't think the thing about the role PM is really indicative at all. In the newbie games I've played a few people have done that or at least said they were going to do that resulted in it being a null tell. I can't see anything that we could use to figure out his role. One more speculative addition to the meta comment though is that he has no scum games to begin with.so it would make sense to me that he would try to preemptively point out the deviation from his town meta since he can't fall back on "this isn't my scum meta either." I don't really consider that strong at all. Now my additional points (since you covered the major concrete stuff) are mostly speculation based off of the assumption that there is no way in hell Mementoss will flip town with his d2 play. On the very small offchance he doesn't my focus would immediately shift to Adam. This + Show Spoiler +On November 01 2012 12:08 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 08:00 Mementoss wrote:On November 01 2012 06:20 Crossfire99 wrote:
Yeah, so you see me as more likely town, so you vote for me? -_- ???????
That's not scummy at all... -obviously didnt read all of my post, and a pretty defensive reaction over 2 votes this early imo Haha, don't make me laugh, mementoss; I read your post and now I guess I need to explain it to you.
Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 06:08 Mementoss wrote:
I half agree to what you say about crossfire too blazinghand. His posts were unreadable thats for sure. I had to re-read several paragraphs 3 times before I even understood what the point was, and then it didn't even deliverable the point well -_-. I agree I could have explained myself better; I got carried away in the beginning of this game and will try to do better going forward. Judging right here that even with all that crap I wrote which was confusing and weird, you think that is is more likely that I am town. Let me explain what "more likely" means. "More likely" means that given two options, one has a better chance of being true when compared to the other. Now you already stated that it is more likely that I am town, but now you need to say what the other option is, (the option that has a worse chance of being true). Show nested quote +but I also think there is a possibility he started posting these long unreadable fluffy statements, so that maybe someone else would follow his ridiculous posting style and muck up the town completely. Thats scum intereference. Also, he actually looks to the non-reader, that he is contributing more than most, when really, hes more interested in literary skills and looking town, than actually finding scum. Oh, here you explain what that option with the worse chance of being true is; the option in which I am scum. Show nested quote +Gunna lay down a vote Xfire atm. Need to re-read the thread and consider all the options, I have been either asleep or at work for this whole thread thus far.
##Vote Crossfire Proved I just did why your vote doesn't line up with your thought. Questioning my alignment is good. Revealing that you think it is more probable that I am town than scum and then voting for me is bad reasoning for a vote. So I hope I explained that well enough to your likening, mementoss.
Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 08:00 Mementoss wrote:U BH, I said, I can see where your coming from how it seems townie, but I was ultimately voting him because I could also see where he could be doing it as scum - looking like contributing, - acknoledges moost of it was fluff when called out, -but why post fluff pirposely if you are town - as I said in my post, I need to re-read the thread and it isn't a strong scum read by any means - if your looking for people not reading the thread, look no further - On November 01 2012 06:20 Crossfire99 wrote:
Yeah, so you see me as more likely town, so you vote for me? -_- ???????
That's not scummy at all... -obviously didnt read all of my post, and a pretty defensive reaction over 2 votes this early imo Then when you go to defend yourself, you say you're voting me because you could see me doing what i did as scum but its not a strong read. Uh huh, yeah you kinda already said that and I kinda already said why it's crazy using your words of "more likely xfire posting as town." Voting for me while thinking I'm more likely town than scum is scummy. interaction between Mementoss and Crossfire really didn't sit well with me. When I was going through his recent posts he kept referring back to his "case" and the fact that Mementoss ignored Adam's criticism of Mem's Keirathi case. His case however is based off of what could be a scumslip but could just as easily be explained by Mem feeling that even though he might be town the posting style and potential for scum is worth it (BH actually defends Mem from this case the post after Cross calls him out initially). In addition to a case being based off of a debatable interpretation the whole thing feels somewhat orchestrated to me. He throws some big posts around that accuse Mementoss without really challenging him. It makes him still appear confrontational but in those two giant posts he doesn't accuse him of being scum outside of an offhanded comment when he first calls him out. Finally, he doesn't even vote him until a day later when the deadline is approaching and he hasn't given any analysis on someone else to avoid voting Mementoss. If that line was so scummy why wouldn't he have voted him at the time and tried to get an answer instead of waiting? The only thing that really gives me pause to this idea is both that his vote actually put Mementoss ahead 4-3 and this feels somewhat elaborate and unnecessary at the time. The delayed vote and the weakness of why he is voting him while claiming that BKExe's "brain farts" make him a null tell feels off. Moving past this post however his only comments since then have all revolved around either his "case" or how he thinks Adam is right calling BS on the Keirathi case. Feels to me like he is trying to ride that "case" as long as he can for town cred without actually contributing. All of these things together just feels too off to me for him to be town. Townies obviously make mistakes but I'm struggling to find town motivation for all of these topics. So on one hand I want to assume that you were ninja'd by me because some of your stuff in there is just plain wrong. I have been scum before. Heck, I was third party in my last game. How deep did you research my meta? Because on the other hand it appears you didn't and just made everything up. Yeah, so you think that my interaction with Mementoss in my case against him was weird? He brushed off my earlier comment so I laid down explicitly why he was wrong. Also, if you are saying I'm scum, why would I essentially out my one scum buddy, gonzaw, with my vote on my other scum buddy, Mementoss? That vote forced gonzaw to not vote for mementoss before someone hammered brood. That basically outed gonzaw and got him killed last night. If I was scum, I could have voted brood, thus saving gonzaw from acting crazy at the deadline and keeping him alive last night.
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On November 10 2012 03:27 HiroPro wrote:
keirathi. 3 mafia is normal for a 13 player game. in this game you only have 11. and mafia have two kp. it's understandable if town's powers are strong to compensate.
town's blind trust in blue claims may have helped s&b survive, but it also gave a huge amount of power to bh and hopeless.
Towns powers were 3 times as strong. Every performer could become night immune basically from night 1 with the right usage of vet and mirrors. It would basically be impossible to NK a performer. Imagine if BKE wasn't lynched. And having 2 performers mod confirmed to eachother was just icing on the leaning cake. So basically hopeless and BH could never be NK'd if they used their points defensively. And they could claim mod confirmed and never be lynched. :S
But yeah congrats to SnB for playing as well as he did, there was sure a chance he coulda won, despite having no kp night 1, and we all wanted to concede lol because our gambit relied on a couple townies dieing basically.
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On November 10 2012 09:43 marvellosity wrote:
Two things: no idea why host didn't accept scumQT actions night 1 when TL was down for indeterminate periods of time for different people. I was one of the people who told s&b to outright quit the game, that's pretty outrageous modding imo.
Secondly the vig shot on Adam was the worst vig shot I've ever seen. Hilarious but awful.
Draw is kinda fair when all is said and done.
I coulda had it all,. ROLLING IN THE DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
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This balancefd
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Yo, listen up here's a story
About a little guy
That lives in a blue world
And all day and all night
And everything he sees is just blue
Like him inside and outside
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Blue his house
With a blue little window
And a blue corvette
And everything is blue for him
And himself and everybody around
Cause he ain't got nobody to listen to
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On November 10 2012 10:36 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2012 10:31 Keirathi wrote:On November 10 2012 10:29 Blazinghand wrote:
I personally had a blast this game but that's just me I guess You are an anomaly. I got to shoot like 3 dudes it was awesome
I DARE you to shoot in my face
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On November 10 2012 10:37 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2012 10:36 Blazinghand wrote:On November 10 2012 10:31 Keirathi wrote:On November 10 2012 10:29 Blazinghand wrote:
I personally had a blast this game but that's just me I guess You are an anomaly. I got to shoot like 3 dudes it was awesome I didn't get to shoot any dudes! And I didn't even get to die
u wosh
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On November 10 2012 11:26 strongandbig wrote:
mmt are you high again
Why dont I ever rememeber posting things on TL on Fridays?
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On November 11 2012 00:48 Mementoss wrote:Why dont I ever rememeber posting things on TL on Fridays?
If you know what I mean
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On November 11 2012 02:31 BroodKingEXE wrote:You both smoke too much
Nah its the drink
If you can imagine this was me last night in a nut shell:
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