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Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 09 2012 17:20 GMT
#872
I don't understand what just happened, but I do know that I would just like to apologize for getting modkilled and ruining the game like that. I didn't realize that relaying what iGrok told me counted as posting pm's and didn't even think that what I did was wrong because I thought it was like asking a question in the thread. I see now that I shouldn't have done it and just wanted to say how truly sorry I am. I hope you all can forgive me. I will try not to be so asinine in the future.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 09 2012 17:38 GMT
#882
iGrok, should I have been modkilled earlier for this quote?
On November 06 2012 12:22 Crossfire99 wrote:
World's worst holiday: Labor Day (idk what to put, idk if the weird ones count like earth day or flag day or...whatever)

Ok, I'm not blue, and I sent some points to strong both nights. Unfortunately I didn't crumb this. I'm not claiming how many points I sent to him yet because he should be able to figure out that I definitely sent him some points last night. I will say that I gave the same amount of points to strong each night. If he hasn't figured it out with this clue I have given him I will explicitly say how many points I gave him each night. I'm hoping that if we're lucky we will catch scum in a lie with all this point claiming.

I just saw Keirathi's post. Don't claim how many points you have left. Don't let scum know anything about what you can or cannot do. I agree with lynching one of the 3 of us: me, stutters, or keirathi, but I'm not sure about the vig plan. I have to think about it. Maybe scum has a vet power that they can activate with points. Interesting thing to note was that mementoss had no points when he died because we each only got 1000 points yesterday. I asked iGrok specifically about this and he said that mementoss had no points to be split amongst us who lynched him. This is what makes me think that scum have powers activated with points as well because I seriously doubt scum would give their points to someone who isn't scum.

World's worst tv show?

Also, for future reference, how should I go about revealing information that I acquired in Mod pm's? Should I ask the question in the thread, so you can answer it? Or is the information I receive never going to be public?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 09 2012 17:47 GMT
#891
Can someone list the actions that the blues can buy? I have no idea about all this point stuff lol.

I actually don't know if me being modkilled helped or hurt town. If I survived that lynch and survived the night (which I feel I would have happened because I could have been mislynched the next day), I would have pushed you hard strong. I don't know if I would have gotten you lynched, but I would have known you were scum. Once stutters was lynched, there was no convincing me you weren't scum.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 09 2012 18:07 GMT
#912
On November 10 2012 03:06 strongandbig wrote:
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On November 10 2012 03:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
mod actions aside, do you really think you could convince BH to switch? I don't, and as a result I think town would have successfully lynched you to win the game.


I don't think you can put mod actions aside, since they changed the game so much. I also think that maybe I could have - keirathi didn't play a super townie game either, if I could have gotten BH to actually look at filters I'm pretty confident mine looked decent.

I also think that part of the reason everyone was all of a sudden so sure I was scum (despite me being basically "confirmed town" up until then) was that the point-give didn't actually go through.

Anyway, we'll never know now, will we?

Your filter didn't look townie in the least bit. Lol.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 09 2012 18:07 GMT
#914
On November 10 2012 03:07 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 03:06 strongandbig wrote:
On November 10 2012 03:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
mod actions aside, do you really think you could convince BH to switch? I don't, and as a result I think town would have successfully lynched you to win the game.


I don't think you can put mod actions aside, since they changed the game so much. I also think that maybe I could have - keirathi didn't play a super townie game either, if I could have gotten BH to actually look at filters I'm pretty confident mine looked decent.

I also think that part of the reason everyone was all of a sudden so sure I was scum (despite me being basically "confirmed town" up until then) was that the point-give didn't actually go through.

Anyway, we'll never know now, will we?

Your filter didn't look townie in the least bit. Lol.

That came out harsh. Sorry.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 09 2012 18:12 GMT
#922
On November 10 2012 03:08 strongandbig wrote:
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On November 10 2012 03:07 Crossfire99 wrote:
On November 10 2012 03:06 strongandbig wrote:
On November 10 2012 03:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
mod actions aside, do you really think you could convince BH to switch? I don't, and as a result I think town would have successfully lynched you to win the game.


I don't think you can put mod actions aside, since they changed the game so much. I also think that maybe I could have - keirathi didn't play a super townie game either, if I could have gotten BH to actually look at filters I'm pretty confident mine looked decent.

I also think that part of the reason everyone was all of a sudden so sure I was scum (despite me being basically "confirmed town" up until then) was that the point-give didn't actually go through.

Anyway, we'll never know now, will we?

Your filter didn't look townie in the least bit. Lol.


only because you read it knowing I was scum. confirmation bias.

otherwise presumably someone would have read it and called me scum? Maybe?

It wasn't confirmation bias at all. I wrote a case on you. I pointed out the inconsistencies between Day 1/Night 1 and Day 2. The only reason I wasn't convinced 100% was that it just seemed crazy to me at the time. I had a whole pm chain with iGrok asking about performers, points, abilities. I needed time to digest everyone. I posted the case and wanted legitimate responses to it. Once stutters died, I knew you had to be scum.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 09 2012 18:14 GMT
#924
iGrok, can you answer these questions for me? Thanks.
On November 10 2012 02:38 Crossfire99 wrote:
iGrok, should I have been modkilled earlier for this quote?
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 12:22 Crossfire99 wrote:
World's worst holiday: Labor Day (idk what to put, idk if the weird ones count like earth day or flag day or...whatever)

Ok, I'm not blue, and I sent some points to strong both nights. Unfortunately I didn't crumb this. I'm not claiming how many points I sent to him yet because he should be able to figure out that I definitely sent him some points last night. I will say that I gave the same amount of points to strong each night. If he hasn't figured it out with this clue I have given him I will explicitly say how many points I gave him each night. I'm hoping that if we're lucky we will catch scum in a lie with all this point claiming.

I just saw Keirathi's post. Don't claim how many points you have left. Don't let scum know anything about what you can or cannot do. I agree with lynching one of the 3 of us: me, stutters, or keirathi, but I'm not sure about the vig plan. I have to think about it. Maybe scum has a vet power that they can activate with points. Interesting thing to note was that mementoss had no points when he died because we each only got 1000 points yesterday. I asked iGrok specifically about this and he said that mementoss had no points to be split amongst us who lynched him. This is what makes me think that scum have powers activated with points as well because I seriously doubt scum would give their points to someone who isn't scum.

World's worst tv show?

Also, for future reference, how should I go about revealing information that I acquired in Mod pm's? Should I ask the question in the thread, so you can answer it? Or is the information I receive never going to be public?

Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 09 2012 18:22 GMT
#932
Oh, I'd just like to say that I really enjoyed playing this game. I can't imagine how difficult iGrok's job as host was with everything he had to keep track of. Yeah, he made some mistakes and Hurricane Sandy really screwed with TL, but we (hopefully) play mafia to have fun. Yeah it sucks what happened, but there are way more important things than this game.

Oh, i loved the setup, theme, and it seemed like you thought through possible issues with points and whatnot, iGrok. Thanks again!
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 09 2012 19:10 GMT
#969
Lol sorry for quoting this again, but I really want an answer, iGrok.
On November 10 2012 02:38 Crossfire99 wrote:
iGrok, should I have been modkilled earlier for this quote?
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 12:22 Crossfire99 wrote:
World's worst holiday: Labor Day (idk what to put, idk if the weird ones count like earth day or flag day or...whatever)

Ok, I'm not blue, and I sent some points to strong both nights. Unfortunately I didn't crumb this. I'm not claiming how many points I sent to him yet because he should be able to figure out that I definitely sent him some points last night. I will say that I gave the same amount of points to strong each night. If he hasn't figured it out with this clue I have given him I will explicitly say how many points I gave him each night. I'm hoping that if we're lucky we will catch scum in a lie with all this point claiming.

I just saw Keirathi's post. Don't claim how many points you have left. Don't let scum know anything about what you can or cannot do. I agree with lynching one of the 3 of us: me, stutters, or keirathi, but I'm not sure about the vig plan. I have to think about it. Maybe scum has a vet power that they can activate with points. Interesting thing to note was that mementoss had no points when he died because we each only got 1000 points yesterday. I asked iGrok specifically about this and he said that mementoss had no points to be split amongst us who lynched him. This is what makes me think that scum have powers activated with points as well because I seriously doubt scum would give their points to someone who isn't scum.

World's worst tv show?

Also, for future reference, how should I go about revealing information that I acquired in Mod pm's? Should I ask the question in the thread, so you can answer it? Or is the information I receive never going to be public?

Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 19:17:38
November 09 2012 19:16 GMT
#974
On November 10 2012 04:14 Keirathi wrote:
In hindsight, I totally should have sent my 1500 points to BH. But man, that "Hopeless is 100% town" stuff, and that he was still pushing Adam just made me not trust him

Lol. He pushed Adam so hard because he wanted to vig gonzaw. It was purely for WIFOM that he did that.

Edit: Do you mean after night 1?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 19:38:47
November 09 2012 19:38 GMT
#980
On November 10 2012 04:36 Blazinghand wrote:
I was planning to shoot S&B probably 5-6 hours before the Stutters flip. He made a post in our Mason QT that basically revealed him to be scum. I ##involved you hoping to gain enough points to shoot and roleblock S&B, but this night used $ instead of points so I had to ask S&B for the points to shoot him with. Everything I said over the course of the night was basically lying to try to get S&B to drop his guard and not vet himself that night.

Sorry, you never really convinced me-- you weren't particularly scummy, but you were the "unconfirmed town". S&B was playing a little bit scummily though, and basically he made a mistake in the QT. If it weren't for that, I may not have shot him. Overall I didn't particularly trust his blue claim because Wayne Brady is a musician

Was my case on S&B not convincing enough?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 09 2012 19:40 GMT
#985
On November 10 2012 04:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 04:38 Crossfire99 wrote:
On November 10 2012 04:36 Blazinghand wrote:
I was planning to shoot S&B probably 5-6 hours before the Stutters flip. He made a post in our Mason QT that basically revealed him to be scum. I ##involved you hoping to gain enough points to shoot and roleblock S&B, but this night used $ instead of points so I had to ask S&B for the points to shoot him with. Everything I said over the course of the night was basically lying to try to get S&B to drop his guard and not vet himself that night.

Sorry, you never really convinced me-- you weren't particularly scummy, but you were the "unconfirmed town". S&B was playing a little bit scummily though, and basically he made a mistake in the QT. If it weren't for that, I may not have shot him.

Was my case on S&B not convincing enough?


I erm, probably didn't read it. I usually don't read other people's cases in depth a whole lot unless they're on me or I think there's something to use against them in it. I skimmed it I guess. S&B basically made two mistakes this game:

1) a bunch of night actions with no results, a classic fake-claim tell
2) claiming scum to me in the mason QT

How do you get by if you don't read peoples cases? lol
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 19:51:11
November 09 2012 19:48 GMT
#987
On November 10 2012 04:42 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 04:40 Crossfire99 wrote:
On November 10 2012 04:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 10 2012 04:38 Crossfire99 wrote:
On November 10 2012 04:36 Blazinghand wrote:
I was planning to shoot S&B probably 5-6 hours before the Stutters flip. He made a post in our Mason QT that basically revealed him to be scum. I ##involved you hoping to gain enough points to shoot and roleblock S&B, but this night used $ instead of points so I had to ask S&B for the points to shoot him with. Everything I said over the course of the night was basically lying to try to get S&B to drop his guard and not vet himself that night.

Sorry, you never really convinced me-- you weren't particularly scummy, but you were the "unconfirmed town". S&B was playing a little bit scummily though, and basically he made a mistake in the QT. If it weren't for that, I may not have shot him.

Was my case on S&B not convincing enough?


I erm, probably didn't read it. I usually don't read other people's cases in depth a whole lot unless they're on me or I think there's something to use against them in it. I skimmed it I guess. S&B basically made two mistakes this game:

1) a bunch of night actions with no results, a classic fake-claim tell
2) claiming scum to me in the mason QT

How do you get by if you don't read peoples cases? lol


I made a stealthy edit. Basically I'm magic, but by the time you were flipped I already knew I was shooting S&B. Case or no case. I mean, I can't really trust other players since they're scum.

Yeah, but reading other peoples cases can prove to you that they're scum or town. Like I was 100% convinced that Adam was town (he and I might as well have been telepathically linked) because we had the same thoughts on mementoss and gonzaw.

Edit: Lol. you and your stealthy edits strike again.

P.S. I loved you claiming the gonzaw shot. Don't know if you intended with this post but it was what confirmed to me that you did it.
On November 03 2012 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Also yeah whoever vigged gonzaw is a suave sexy guy. Probably really smart and handsome

Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 09 2012 20:16 GMT
#993
On November 10 2012 05:11 Blazinghand wrote:
You can't share points via posting in the thread-- you have to PM. I assume things posted in the thread about point sharing have no impact on the game.

No you definitely can post in the thread to give points. Keirathi did it night 1 IIRC.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 09 2012 20:19 GMT
#997
On November 10 2012 05:18 Blazinghand wrote:
Well, he probably also had to PM.

EDIT: ah, well it seems that wasn't the case.

P.S. I came up with a game breaking strategy involving just points that iGrok wouldn't let me do for obvious reasons.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 20:30:56
November 09 2012 20:25 GMT
#1001
On November 10 2012 05:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
Yes, I got those points from Keir. No wait, I got $100.
Out of curiosity, what were you planning Cross?

So, around Night 2 I wanted to be able to prove that I sent points to strong so I sent him 10 groups of 99 points and 1 group of 9.99999999999 points (because my name is Crossfire99). As I was thinking about this and knowing that scum had to have had extra points from gonzaw and mementoss, I wanted to have everyone publicly give all their points in the thread in varying amounts of groups. For example, I would get Keirathi to give all his points in 14 point groups, Stutters to give all his points in 19 point groups, etc.

This would prove that scum had extra points. Maybe scum could have spent their points before doing this, but it would have taken time to do, so they would have likely messed up how many points they should have had. Or it would prove that scum had less points than they should have because they spent them all.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 20:36:28
November 09 2012 20:35 GMT
#1003
On November 10 2012 05:30 Hopeless1der wrote:
trololol. iGrok had a hard enough time modding this game. I can see why he vetoed that particular plan

Yeah, I pretty much knew he was going to veto it, but I had to ask lol.

I also had to ask this
I doubt you'll answer this, but what the heck I'll go for it. Would scum get a safe claim blue name if they asked for it? I guess this assumes that they'll know there's only 3 blues, so i don't know. Whatever I'm crazy, but please respond. lol


He told me to stop setup-fishing. Lol.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 20:54:15
November 09 2012 20:52 GMT
#1008
On November 10 2012 05:47 gonzaw wrote:
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On November 10 2012 05:25 Crossfire99 wrote:
On November 10 2012 05:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
Yes, I got those points from Keir. No wait, I got $100.
Out of curiosity, what were you planning Cross?

So, around Night 2 I wanted to be able to prove that I sent points to strong so I sent him 10 groups of 99 points and 1 group of 9.99999999999 points (because my name is Crossfire99). As I was thinking about this and knowing that scum had to have had extra points from gonzaw and mementoss, I wanted to have everyone publicly give all their points in the thread in varying amounts of groups. For example, I would get Keirathi to give all his points in 14 point groups, Stutters to give all his points in 19 point groups, etc.

This would prove that scum had extra points. Maybe scum could have spent their points before doing this, but it would have taken time to do, so they would have likely messed up how many points they should have had. Or it would prove that scum had less points than they should have because they spent them all.


Wait how would that work?

So at that point in the game there were me, strong, blazing, hopeless, stutters, and keirathi left. I wouldn't have made blazing or hopeless give points because they were mod confirmed. I would then have had everyone else post in the thread

## Give all points: Blazinghand in increments of __ points

Everyone would fill in the blank with a completely different number, such as 17, 39, 87, etc. Then blazing would add up the points he got from each person to compare with how many they should have had at that point in the game according to their actions thus far.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 22:59:57
November 09 2012 22:58 GMT
#1016
On November 10 2012 07:35 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 04:48 Crossfire99 wrote:
On November 10 2012 04:42 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 10 2012 04:40 Crossfire99 wrote:
On November 10 2012 04:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 10 2012 04:38 Crossfire99 wrote:
On November 10 2012 04:36 Blazinghand wrote:
I was planning to shoot S&B probably 5-6 hours before the Stutters flip. He made a post in our Mason QT that basically revealed him to be scum. I ##involved you hoping to gain enough points to shoot and roleblock S&B, but this night used $ instead of points so I had to ask S&B for the points to shoot him with. Everything I said over the course of the night was basically lying to try to get S&B to drop his guard and not vet himself that night.

Sorry, you never really convinced me-- you weren't particularly scummy, but you were the "unconfirmed town". S&B was playing a little bit scummily though, and basically he made a mistake in the QT. If it weren't for that, I may not have shot him.

Was my case on S&B not convincing enough?


I erm, probably didn't read it. I usually don't read other people's cases in depth a whole lot unless they're on me or I think there's something to use against them in it. I skimmed it I guess. S&B basically made two mistakes this game:

1) a bunch of night actions with no results, a classic fake-claim tell
2) claiming scum to me in the mason QT

How do you get by if you don't read peoples cases? lol


I made a stealthy edit. Basically I'm magic, but by the time you were flipped I already knew I was shooting S&B. Case or no case. I mean, I can't really trust other players since they're scum.

Yeah, but reading other peoples cases can prove to you that they're scum or town. Like I was 100% convinced that Adam was town (he and I might as well have been telepathically linked) because we had the same thoughts on mementoss and gonzaw.

Edit: Lol. you and your stealthy edits strike again.

P.S. I loved you claiming the gonzaw shot. Don't know if you intended with this post but it was what confirmed to me that you did it.
On November 03 2012 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Also yeah whoever vigged gonzaw is a suave sexy guy. Probably really smart and handsome



Its not at all surprising to me that you had 100% confirmed town on me, as I had the very same read on you from the second you walked into the thread. Equally I had Keirathi 'confirmed' town just as fast.

That vig shot? Yeah, I don't even know what to say.

BH, you really needed to drop the 'adam is probably scum' thing a lot sooner, unless of course you actually believed it, in which case you probably need to redefine how you scum hunt. If I was scum, that was the most ludicrous bus in mafia history - had I been scum, I would have just kept my mouth shut on day 1 at the lynch and let gonzaw do his vote switch while laughing at you guys not seeing how blatant it was. Anyone that cry's WIFOM (a word i loathe) here is just plain dense, I would never trade 2 teammates for town-cred.

Still, good game. I'm content in calling this one a Scum win.

Well played.

Never be content to giving scum the win. lol

Also, I probably would have really hated hopeless (not blazing like i originally thought) a lot more for shooting you, but I knew he was town and everyone started claiming which just made everything really confusing. I mean I basically accuse Keirathi and stutters of not being town even though they played very townie. I don't even know where else you could get a case like this. lol

On November 07 2012 14:03 Crossfire99 wrote:
Dell

If there is any specific thing any of you want me to respond to on any of these cases let me know because I don't know if you guys just want me to respond to each case or what.

Also, I think this means that both keirathi and stutters are not town. That's the only thing that makes sense (unless I'm figuring this stuff out wrong, which you should point out asap, so I don't go down a rabbit trail for no reason).

I believe Keirathi is playing with a town mindset. He was attacked by both Mementoss and gonzaw day 1 who voted for him that day. They only changed their minds when they realized that only brood had a chance for a mislynch. He also correctly called gonzaw out during day 1. This had me pretty sure he was town until I just figured out that stuff in my last post. With my reasoning and logic, I believe that Keirathi must be Drew. He played a really good town game, but it's the only thing that makes sense.

This means that stutters must be scum. I honestly don't see too much stuff in his filter that is scummy. I don't even think we can hold Djagu's vote against him because of these quotes.
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On November 01 2012 03:17 Djagulingu wrote:
So did we start or we're just fucking around?
To be honest, I don't give a fuck
Uhh
##Vote: Chezinu
We should vote for chezinu because every single time there is a storm in the US and Chezinu is playing a game of mafia, he's always a scumbag.

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On November 04 2012 11:36 Djagulingu wrote:
Important posts had no day post so I thought game has yet to start. Already n1 T_T

But it's also the only other thing that makes any sense whatsoever. All my other thoughts are even crazier...

World's worst car?

Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 09 2012 23:22 GMT
#1026
While we're talking about advice on play, any advice on my play? I know I got carried away with the first game and posted too much fluff and some of my stuff was hard to understand, but any advice other than that.

Oh. I might as well say this now to explain what I did with the whole claiming fiasco. Basically I checked my role PM before the game started and knew I was town. I happened to be in the middle of writing my long fluffy post when I saw chezinu's post asking people to claim VT. I didn't think too much about it and claimed in that rhyme. After I thought about the game some more, I realized that that wasn't a good idea because it gives scum too much of an advantage. I figured that our blues weren't that powerful this game, but we knew there were 4 of them and if we already had 2 claimed VT, that left what like 6 people to pick out of to find 4 blues. (Now mind you this was day 1 before I figured out anything about the game.) Realizing that, I wanted a way to take back my claim, so I pulled that whole I didn't check my PM thing just to confuse everyone. Anyway that's the actual story on what happened there.
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