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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 03 2013 19:43 GMT
#1021
On January 04 2013 04:40 Toadesstern wrote:
and I'm not paranoid. I'm gauging the situation :p
Though I really am not sure what to make of Palmar, which is troublesome.


what do you think about MZ?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 03 2013 19:44 GMT
#1022
On January 04 2013 04:35 supersoft wrote:
Where is MZ?
Where is Foolishness?
Where is wherebugsgo???

how much time is left?
2 hours...?

A Palmarlynch is not going to happen. wtf.
Don't listen to paranoiatoad!


Wait I just realized the OP does not specify how long cycles last.
As far as I'm aware the standard model is 48/24 though.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 03 2013 19:44 GMT
#1023
On January 04 2013 04:35 supersoft wrote:
Where is MZ?
Where is Foolishness?
Where is wherebugsgo???

how much time is left?
2 hours...?

A Palmarlynch is not going to happen. wtf.
Don't listen to paranoiatoad!

wait what? Isn't it 26 hours left?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 19:46:25
January 03 2013 19:46 GMT
#1024
On January 04 2013 04:44 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 04:35 supersoft wrote:
Where is MZ?
Where is Foolishness?
Where is wherebugsgo???

how much time is left?
2 hours...?

A Palmarlynch is not going to happen. wtf.
Don't listen to paranoiatoad!


Wait I just realized the OP does not specify how long cycles last.
As far as I'm aware the standard model is 48/24 though.

I am using the trimmed OP(Model OP is still in effect) which consists only of mechanics and misc rules. Yes, it is 48/24. And no, You've got 26 hours left, unless I am dumb.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 03 2013 19:46 GMT
#1025
On January 04 2013 04:44 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 04:35 supersoft wrote:
Where is MZ?
Where is Foolishness?
Where is wherebugsgo???

how much time is left?
2 hours...?

A Palmarlynch is not going to happen. wtf.
Don't listen to paranoiatoad!

wait what? Isn't it 26 hours left?


woa okay :D
I somehow thought that already 45hours had gone by
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 03 2013 19:47 GMT
#1026
You cray cray supersoft. Scared me though
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 03 2013 19:49 GMT
#1027
On January 04 2013 04:43 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 04:40 Toadesstern wrote:
and I'm not paranoid. I'm gauging the situation :p
Though I really am not sure what to make of Palmar, which is troublesome.


what do you think about MZ?

he's stupid and hasn't posted much, which isn't all that alignment indicative at all considering it's MZ. The most troublesome post he did is his very first one + Show Spoiler [clicky] +
On January 03 2013 07:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
This just in, palmar most likely town.

More in a few hours when I get home.
but then again, not really willing or able to judge wether he's just bad or mafia just yet.

Makes a good vig-target if he keeps playing that way but not a good lynch. At least I wouldn't know how to decide which one to pick if we're going to lynch into players like that which gives mafia an incredible potential to controle the lynch.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 03 2013 19:50 GMT
#1028
On January 04 2013 04:41 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 04:29 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 04 2013 04:23 HiroPro wrote:
On January 04 2013 04:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hiro, are you going to explain anytime soon why you have me as (slight)scumread? You have talked about this two times already although not given a single reason for it.

On January 03 2013 08:00 HiroPro wrote:
marvel. i'm thinking about killing hopeless, monkey, and supersoft. which one would you not?

On January 04 2013 02:27 HiroPro wrote:
my thoughts: perfection is town. froggynoddy has a good chance to be mafia. lazermonkey could also be, but i'm less sure about him. could just be the way he plays. and vivax probably town too.

the rest of you - who the hell knows?

AMA
In your second post you say that it ''could just be the way he plays.''.What is this really supposed to mean. Why do you even feel the need to post it then? You are just throwing doubt at me for no apparent reason right now.

I even call you out for this earlier but you ignored/missed it.
On January 03 2013 08:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Why do you want to kill me Hiro?



You suggested policy lynches on grush/kush, but made no effort to actually push for their lynch and the way in which you overly elaborate on very simple points.

I'll share what I want when I feel like it - got it?
This is a nice town mentality. In what way do you think we gain on withholding information?

My suggestion on killing grush/kush was about as serious as Palmar's WBG push. Read: not serious at all. It was merely a way to try to create discussion. Which turned out somewhat okayish.

How do I ''overly elaborate on very simple points. ''? Care to give some examples?


Don't tell me how to play, thanks. I haven't actually voted for you or tried to get you lynched at any point, so there is simply no need for me to explain.
Stuff like this: These are single-sentence points that you just drag out for some reason. They don't actually say anything very meaningful but you spend a lot of time spouting stuff like this.

Show nested quote +
Randomly lynching still sucks tho. Sure, on avarage it gives us 24,6% instead if 21,1% to hit the right person, however, what do we do next? It's cool to lynch scum. but if we don't, we will more or less have wasted D1. There will be no way of analyzing vote patterns or w/e. The extra 3,5% doesn't make up for the fact that a random lynch doesn't give us anything to work with on the comming day.


Show nested quote +

So, to summarize a bit, I don't really see these things as townie points TBH. Why? Because you cannot just look how much sense they make from town PoV but also from scum PoV. Calling out strange votes + attacking Palmar can very well give him credit as scum. Thus it all comes down to WIFOM. And thus its a null tell.

So you do think town should withhold information like this? Or did you just dodge the question?

Regarding the second part, I don't agree but don't feel like arguing. It will just get into a circular argument of whether or not I could've written the sentences in a simpler form.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
January 03 2013 19:54 GMT
#1029
On January 04 2013 04:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 04:41 HiroPro wrote:
On January 04 2013 04:29 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 04 2013 04:23 HiroPro wrote:
On January 04 2013 04:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hiro, are you going to explain anytime soon why you have me as (slight)scumread? You have talked about this two times already although not given a single reason for it.

On January 03 2013 08:00 HiroPro wrote:
marvel. i'm thinking about killing hopeless, monkey, and supersoft. which one would you not?

On January 04 2013 02:27 HiroPro wrote:
my thoughts: perfection is town. froggynoddy has a good chance to be mafia. lazermonkey could also be, but i'm less sure about him. could just be the way he plays. and vivax probably town too.

the rest of you - who the hell knows?

AMA
In your second post you say that it ''could just be the way he plays.''.What is this really supposed to mean. Why do you even feel the need to post it then? You are just throwing doubt at me for no apparent reason right now.

I even call you out for this earlier but you ignored/missed it.
On January 03 2013 08:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Why do you want to kill me Hiro?



You suggested policy lynches on grush/kush, but made no effort to actually push for their lynch and the way in which you overly elaborate on very simple points.

I'll share what I want when I feel like it - got it?
This is a nice town mentality. In what way do you think we gain on withholding information?

My suggestion on killing grush/kush was about as serious as Palmar's WBG push. Read: not serious at all. It was merely a way to try to create discussion. Which turned out somewhat okayish.

How do I ''overly elaborate on very simple points. ''? Care to give some examples?


Don't tell me how to play, thanks. I haven't actually voted for you or tried to get you lynched at any point, so there is simply no need for me to explain.
Stuff like this: These are single-sentence points that you just drag out for some reason. They don't actually say anything very meaningful but you spend a lot of time spouting stuff like this.

Randomly lynching still sucks tho. Sure, on avarage it gives us 24,6% instead if 21,1% to hit the right person, however, what do we do next? It's cool to lynch scum. but if we don't, we will more or less have wasted D1. There will be no way of analyzing vote patterns or w/e. The extra 3,5% doesn't make up for the fact that a random lynch doesn't give us anything to work with on the comming day.



So, to summarize a bit, I don't really see these things as townie points TBH. Why? Because you cannot just look how much sense they make from town PoV but also from scum PoV. Calling out strange votes + attacking Palmar can very well give him credit as scum. Thus it all comes down to WIFOM. And thus its a null tell.

So you do think town should withhold information like this? Or did you just dodge the question?

Regarding the second part, I don't agree but don't feel like arguing. It will just get into a circular argument of whether or not I could've written the sentences in a simpler form.


Yes, I think withholding information is perfectly fine as town. If you don't have anything better to talk about, please stop wasting my time.


Marvel, are you still up for killing froggynoddy?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 03 2013 19:57 GMT
#1030
I was never up for killing froggynoddy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
January 03 2013 20:01 GMT
#1031
only Palmar or do you have someone else you would lynch?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 03 2013 20:02 GMT
#1032
On January 04 2013 05:01 HiroPro wrote:
only Palmar or do you have someone else you would lynch?


Palmar seems a fun lynch. Or MZ, or Clarity, or Cheesecake. BC is a little summarise-y for my liking too, but i don't wanna lynch him today.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 03 2013 20:03 GMT
#1033
Don't lynch me day 1, it would break my heart.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 03 2013 20:07 GMT
#1034
On January 04 2013 05:02 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 05:01 HiroPro wrote:
only Palmar or do you have someone else you would lynch?


Palmar seems a fun lynch. Or MZ, or Clarity, or Cheesecake. BC is a little summarise-y for my liking too, but i don't wanna lynch him today.

Lynching WBG would be way more hilarious though.

Why Cheesecake?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 03 2013 20:08 GMT
#1035
Because cheesecake has said things without saying anything and wbg has just been absent.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 03 2013 20:11 GMT
#1036
and you think that's alignment indicative of cheesecake to a point that you'd prefere him instead of other possible targets?

Do you know him?
Is he a vet I don't know?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 03 2013 20:12 GMT
#1037
On January 04 2013 05:11 Toadesstern wrote:
and you think that's alignment indicative of cheesecake to a point that you'd prefere him instead of other possible targets?

Do you know him?
Is he a vet I don't know?


what other targets? I named like 4 or something.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 03 2013 20:14 GMT
#1038
why are you asking me to do your work for you? go and research what he plays like yourself. If I said his name, obviously I feel like he's a decent lynch target.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 03 2013 20:15 GMT
#1039
On January 04 2013 05:12 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 05:11 Toadesstern wrote:
and you think that's alignment indicative of cheesecake to a point that you'd prefere him instead of other possible targets?

Do you know him?
Is he a vet I don't know?


what other targets? I named like 4 or something.


cheesecake to me is someone who's within that mass of players who are playing bad for whatever reason and I'm not willing to make a decision on them right now, neither am I willing to decide on which one of them should be the prime target, like I just told Supersoft recently.

Players like MZ, like Tunkeg, like Clarity or Cheesecake.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 03 2013 20:16 GMT
#1040
oh and hopeless
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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