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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 03 2013 19:05 GMT
#1001
Psh...I'm more townie than that guy.

*dustkick*
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 03 2013 19:07 GMT
#1002
On January 04 2013 04:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 04:03 Palmar wrote:
Yamato is like the townies towny of the townies in this town game. Toad failing to see that is slightly concerning.


Considering my other two games with him, it certainly is concerning. :p


Are you going to stop making quips and do something at some stage, dearest?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 03 2013 19:08 GMT
#1003
Yeah well Toads stuff is probably his usual paranoia.
froggynoddy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom452 Posts
January 03 2013 19:10 GMT
#1004
On January 04 2013 03:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 02:26 froggynoddy wrote:
Wow... I think I should have eased myself more gently with a mini...

My vote is still on Tunkeg. He went from engorged e-penis after a wagon started, saw that the wagon was still going and toned it down with little to no explanation, as if he'd been told to tone it down and wait for another wagon to roll on up.

I think we should leave lurkers (vets or no) to vigs, theres less to read out of people voting a lurker rather than voting someone active or at least kind of active.

I don't understand Palmar's trolling.. I must be super thick as well as bad.


Hi froggy, stop inventing narratives dear. I'm finding it increasingly hard to justify your vote on Tunkeg given how, as you yourself noted, he played very similarly last time you played together with him (and me!). What is distinct between his play this game and that game that makes you sure enough to be voting him?


In short: it would be silly for me to be certain about anything, particularly Day 1. You are correct about the narrative thing, I was kinda thinking this also. But I hoped Tunkeg would respond with something similar rather than have others jump in. My first vote on him was bad, purposefully so, it was meant to get a reaction, it didn't really work. What then pissed me off is that he doesn't defend himself at all but waits for interest to dissipate when big names come along and defend him.

I guess this makes him maybe bad, but not necessarily scum.

Ill unvote him because he's just ignoring me/doesnt want to respond and that what little pressure I can bear is now completely gone.

##Unvote Tunkeg
'better still, a satisfied man'
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 03 2013 19:11 GMT
#1005
Fun fact, this game is majority lynch. Didn't know untill now : /
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 03 2013 19:12 GMT
#1006
instant majority?
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 03 2013 19:12 GMT
#1007
No, deadline. Put it back in your pants Palmar.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 03 2013 19:13 GMT
#1008
On January 04 2013 04:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
No, deadline. Put it back in your pants Palmar.
I laughed IRL. True story.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 03 2013 19:14 GMT
#1009
Sad part is I was slightly aroused by the idea of just killing someone like that.
Computer says mafia
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 03 2013 19:21 GMT
#1010
Wait, why are you guys going after Cheese cake? If the issue lies in the fact that he isn't contributing then why are you ONLY pushing him? What makes him special when about 30% is at his level of contribution?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 03 2013 19:22 GMT
#1011
EBWOP: when about 30% of the players*
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
January 03 2013 19:23 GMT
#1012
On January 04 2013 03:48 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 03:43 HiroPro wrote:
/yawn. still dull toad, still dull.

he's overdoing it though. Almost feels like Batman-Palmar...


Town palmar however won't do everything that's possible to make it sure it's hard for town to get reads on people or to even read the thread. That's something not-Town Palmar does.


I'd like some proof for these statements.

Arkham City: Palmars filter

And well about the first statement. I obviously can't prove he doesn't do that as town because that's impossible. Thing is I haven't seen him doing anything this extreme as town, and I've seen him a couple of times.

Gosh you're wasting my time I'm off to McD for half an hour.


I want an actual explanation with some quotes and analysis, not a useless filter link.



On January 04 2013 04:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hiro, are you going to explain anytime soon why you have me as (slight)scumread? You have talked about this two times already although not given a single reason for it.

Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 08:00 HiroPro wrote:
marvel. i'm thinking about killing hopeless, monkey, and supersoft. which one would you not?

Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 02:27 HiroPro wrote:
my thoughts: perfection is town. froggynoddy has a good chance to be mafia. lazermonkey could also be, but i'm less sure about him. could just be the way he plays. and vivax probably town too.

the rest of you - who the hell knows?

AMA
In your second post you say that it ''could just be the way he plays.''.What is this really supposed to mean. Why do you even feel the need to post it then? You are just throwing doubt at me for no apparent reason right now.

I even call you out for this earlier but you ignored/missed it.
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 08:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Why do you want to kill me Hiro?



You suggested policy lynches on grush/kush, but made no effort to actually push for their lynch and the way in which you overly elaborate on very simple points.

I'll share what I want when I feel like it - got it?
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 03 2013 19:25 GMT
#1013
On January 04 2013 04:21 Lazermonkey wrote:
Wait, why are you guys going after Cheese cake? If the issue lies in the fact that he isn't contributing then why are you ONLY pushing him? What makes him special when about 30% is at his level of contribution?


I can see why iamp is on me.

Have no clue about VE though.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
January 03 2013 19:26 GMT
#1014
On January 04 2013 04:21 Lazermonkey wrote:
Wait, why are you guys going after Cheese cake? If the issue lies in the fact that he isn't contributing then why are you ONLY pushing him? What makes him special when about 30% is at his level of contribution?


where did anyone say they were voting for cheesecake because he wasn't contributing?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 03 2013 19:29 GMT
#1015
On January 04 2013 04:23 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 04:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hiro, are you going to explain anytime soon why you have me as (slight)scumread? You have talked about this two times already although not given a single reason for it.

On January 03 2013 08:00 HiroPro wrote:
marvel. i'm thinking about killing hopeless, monkey, and supersoft. which one would you not?

On January 04 2013 02:27 HiroPro wrote:
my thoughts: perfection is town. froggynoddy has a good chance to be mafia. lazermonkey could also be, but i'm less sure about him. could just be the way he plays. and vivax probably town too.

the rest of you - who the hell knows?

AMA
In your second post you say that it ''could just be the way he plays.''.What is this really supposed to mean. Why do you even feel the need to post it then? You are just throwing doubt at me for no apparent reason right now.

I even call you out for this earlier but you ignored/missed it.
On January 03 2013 08:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Why do you want to kill me Hiro?



You suggested policy lynches on grush/kush, but made no effort to actually push for their lynch and the way in which you overly elaborate on very simple points.

I'll share what I want when I feel like it - got it?
This is a nice town mentality. In what way do you think we gain on withholding information?

My suggestion on killing grush/kush was about as serious as Palmar's WBG push. Read: not serious at all. It was merely a way to try to create discussion. Which turned out somewhat okayish.

How do I ''overly elaborate on very simple points. ''? Care to give some examples?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 03 2013 19:34 GMT
#1016
VE, who would you lynch?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 03 2013 19:35 GMT
#1017
Where is MZ?
Where is Foolishness?
Where is wherebugsgo???

how much time is left?
2 hours...?

A Palmarlynch is not going to happen. wtf.
Don't listen to paranoiatoad!
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 03 2013 19:37 GMT
#1018
On January 04 2013 04:03 Palmar wrote:
Yamato is like the townies towny of the townies in this town game. Toad failing to see that is slightly concerning.


I do see that and I've got him down the same way. It would just be a little more confirmed townie if he wouldn't be that conservative this time around :p


On January 04 2013 04:23 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 03:48 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 04 2013 03:43 HiroPro wrote:
/yawn. still dull toad, still dull.

he's overdoing it though. Almost feels like Batman-Palmar...


Town palmar however won't do everything that's possible to make it sure it's hard for town to get reads on people or to even read the thread. That's something not-Town Palmar does.


I'd like some proof for these statements.

Arkham City: Palmars filter

And well about the first statement. I obviously can't prove he doesn't do that as town because that's impossible. Thing is I haven't seen him doing anything this extreme as town, and I've seen him a couple of times.

Gosh you're wasting my time I'm off to McD for half an hour.


I want an actual explanation with some quotes and analysis, not a useless filter link.



Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 04:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hiro, are you going to explain anytime soon why you have me as (slight)scumread? You have talked about this two times already although not given a single reason for it.

On January 03 2013 08:00 HiroPro wrote:
marvel. i'm thinking about killing hopeless, monkey, and supersoft. which one would you not?

On January 04 2013 02:27 HiroPro wrote:
my thoughts: perfection is town. froggynoddy has a good chance to be mafia. lazermonkey could also be, but i'm less sure about him. could just be the way he plays. and vivax probably town too.

the rest of you - who the hell knows?

AMA
In your second post you say that it ''could just be the way he plays.''.What is this really supposed to mean. Why do you even feel the need to post it then? You are just throwing doubt at me for no apparent reason right now.

I even call you out for this earlier but you ignored/missed it.
On January 03 2013 08:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Why do you want to kill me Hiro?



You suggested policy lynches on grush/kush, but made no effort to actually push for their lynch and the way in which you overly elaborate on very simple points.

I'll share what I want when I feel like it - got it?

not going to happen
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 03 2013 19:40 GMT
#1019
and I'm not paranoid. I'm gauging the situation :p
Though I really am not sure what to make of Palmar, which is troublesome.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
January 03 2013 19:41 GMT
#1020
On January 04 2013 04:29 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 04:23 HiroPro wrote:
On January 04 2013 04:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hiro, are you going to explain anytime soon why you have me as (slight)scumread? You have talked about this two times already although not given a single reason for it.

On January 03 2013 08:00 HiroPro wrote:
marvel. i'm thinking about killing hopeless, monkey, and supersoft. which one would you not?

On January 04 2013 02:27 HiroPro wrote:
my thoughts: perfection is town. froggynoddy has a good chance to be mafia. lazermonkey could also be, but i'm less sure about him. could just be the way he plays. and vivax probably town too.

the rest of you - who the hell knows?

AMA
In your second post you say that it ''could just be the way he plays.''.What is this really supposed to mean. Why do you even feel the need to post it then? You are just throwing doubt at me for no apparent reason right now.

I even call you out for this earlier but you ignored/missed it.
On January 03 2013 08:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Why do you want to kill me Hiro?



You suggested policy lynches on grush/kush, but made no effort to actually push for their lynch and the way in which you overly elaborate on very simple points.

I'll share what I want when I feel like it - got it?
This is a nice town mentality. In what way do you think we gain on withholding information?

My suggestion on killing grush/kush was about as serious as Palmar's WBG push. Read: not serious at all. It was merely a way to try to create discussion. Which turned out somewhat okayish.

How do I ''overly elaborate on very simple points. ''? Care to give some examples?


Don't tell me how to play, thanks. I haven't actually voted for you or tried to get you lynched at any point, so there is simply no need for me to explain.
Stuff like this: These are single-sentence points that you just drag out for some reason. They don't actually say anything very meaningful but you spend a lot of time spouting stuff like this.

Randomly lynching still sucks tho. Sure, on avarage it gives us 24,6% instead if 21,1% to hit the right person, however, what do we do next? It's cool to lynch scum. but if we don't, we will more or less have wasted D1. There will be no way of analyzing vote patterns or w/e. The extra 3,5% doesn't make up for the fact that a random lynch doesn't give us anything to work with on the comming day.



So, to summarize a bit, I don't really see these things as townie points TBH. Why? Because you cannot just look how much sense they make from town PoV but also from scum PoV. Calling out strange votes + attacking Palmar can very well give him credit as scum. Thus it all comes down to WIFOM. And thus its a null tell.

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