EPTTL Mafia LVIII - Page 33
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
What do you think of Tunkeg? | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On January 03 2013 11:30 marvellosity wrote: because if he's too clever to slip so stupidly as mafia, it's really easy just to say something like that as mafia because it doesn't mean anything. So Palmar said yet another useless thing with no significance. Why am I not surprised. Why is anyone surprised at this. Why are we even considering this to be anything more than Palmar-talk? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On January 03 2013 11:32 Clarity_nl wrote: You're saying it's just as likely he reverse-reverse-reverse-psychologied as it is that he reverse-reverse-psychologied? What do you think of Tunkeg? I'm saying there's no point talking about ti because he could easily say such a thing as either alignment i don't think much of tunkeg, maybe lean slightly town because he had another go at me when probably by now he would know that he'd always lose if he took me on. but it isn't much. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On January 03 2013 11:27 Clarity_nl wrote: How did no one jump on this btw? I'm going with the logic that Palmar is too dumb to slip so it was a trap, which makes him clearly town in my book. This was intentional to me. Palmar doesn't seem like the kind of player who would slip like that, so I read that post in a joking tone. That said, I certainly don't have a townread on Palmar. Then again, I wouldn't lynch him either, but only because I've fucked that up once in the past and he's almost always a prime target for mafia KP, so I'm much more comfortable leaving him alive. Despite his shitty reasons for voting bugs and being generally trolly for the time being, I don't think it is ever worth lynching him Day 1 because he's so likely to get shot all the time. Same goes for marv on the "do not lynch Day 1 list" | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 03 2013 11:32 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: So Palmar said yet another useless thing with no significance. Why am I not surprised. Why is anyone surprised at this. Why are we even considering this to be anything more than Palmar-talk? noone is considering it to be anything. Apparently besides Clarity that is. As Marv said, Palmar knows that noone thinks he's that stupid, therefore everyone knows it's bullshit. Palmar is capable to post bullshit as both mafia and as town. Wether that bullshit is actually true or not is totally insignificant for the assertion of said bullshit. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On January 03 2013 11:36 Toadesstern wrote: noone is considering it to be anything. Apparently besides Clarity that is. As Marv said, Palmar knows that noone thinks he's that stupid, therefore everyone knows it's bullshit. Palmar is capable to post bullshit as both mafia and as town. Wether that bullshit is actually true or not is totally insignificant for the assertion of said bullshit. All this Palmar talk is really going in circles back to the same conclusion. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
They basically just post to post. The only alignment indicative things they do in the game is lynch people. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
because it's 0 On January 03 2013 11:27 Clarity_nl wrote: I'm going with the logic that Palmar is too dumb to slip so it was a trap, which makes him clearly town in my book. you clearly get to conclusions too fast. On January 03 2013 11:16 marvellosity wrote: oh yeah, Palmar has pushed random lynch as scum too. icebreaker != alignment indicative yes, yes. I am not sold about palmars alignment yet. But as long as he plays protown - and getting the game going is protown - we have no problem. One thing, I still don't want to let go, is MZs post about Palmar. It seems he knows Palmar is town, and he thinks it's obvious enough for everyone else, to just yell it out. And therefor i think Palmar is really town and MZ is scum. Can you follow? + Show Spoiler + On January 03 2013 11:08 supersoft wrote: lol and I am an idiot for warning them :D now they know my trap nvm. wasnt a good trap | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
I hate that and nowadays everyone does it. Even you marv... you're better than that. There's no reason to talk about a townread, no matter how weak or how strong on d1 unless the guy in question is about to be lynched. Don't give people an easy time skating by by dropping some random townreads, talk about things you consider to be weird. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On January 03 2013 11:38 yamato77 wrote: What does anything these good mafia players say in the early game mean? They basically just post to post. The only alignment indicative things they do in the game is lynch people. Or rather, try to lynch townies. This post is useless, quite like your suspicions against me. What would you like to hear from me yamato? | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On January 03 2013 11:39 marvellosity wrote: indeed Cheesecake. Although actually the most interesting thing about it is that Clarity thought it was interesting. Interesting. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On January 03 2013 11:39 marvellosity wrote: indeed Cheesecake. Although actually the most interesting thing about it is that Clarity thought it was interesting. Actually the only part that I really thought was interesting was the fact that NO ONE responded to it, but I guess that doesn't get us any reads. You guys are right though my conclusion was rather premature and badly thought out. TT | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On January 03 2013 11:40 Hopeless1der wrote: Or rather, try to lynch townies. This post is useless, quite like your suspicions against me. What would you like to hear from me yamato? Do you have any thoughts about the game that don't involve policy lynches? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On January 03 2013 11:38 supersoft wrote: because it's 0 you clearly get to conclusions too fast. yes, yes. I am not sold about palmars alignment yet. But as long as he plays protown - and getting the game going is protown - we have no problem. One thing, I still don't want to let go, is MZs post about Palmar. It seems he knows Palmar is town, and he thinks it's obvious enough for everyone else, to just yell it out. And therefor i think Palmar is really town and MZ is scum. Can you follow? + Show Spoiler + On January 03 2013 11:08 supersoft wrote: lol and I am an idiot for warning them :D now they know my trap nvm. wasnt a good trap yes, i understand, and you could well be right. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On January 03 2013 09:55 Lazermonkey wrote: Owell, I will go to bed now. Will vote Tunkeg for the time being tho it is subject to change. ##Unvote ##Vote: Tunkeg Waddaya guys think about this vote? Scummiest in thread so far imo. "So yeah I'm just going to park my vote riiiiiight here. But I'll totes change it guys don't worry" | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On January 03 2013 11:46 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Waddaya guys think about this vote? Scummiest in thread so far imo. "So yeah I'm just going to park my vote riiiiiight here. But I'll totes change it guys don't worry" Nah Tunkeg was being an idiot, and Lazer throws his vote around. Means nothing. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On January 03 2013 11:39 Toadesstern wrote: Seriously, why do people start talking about townreads all the time? I hate that and nowadays everyone does it. Even you marv... you're better than that. There's no reason to talk about a townread, no matter how weak or how strong on d1 unless the guy in question is about to be lynched. Don't give people an easy time skating by by dropping some random townreads, talk about things you consider to be weird. I talk about town reads because I am defending my position that people who want to lynch Tunkeg right now are making oh so very stupid decisions. Also I think they are wrong. But I defer to your infinite wisdom Toad. Surely you know better than I. Post some information devoid of townreads and do explain on who is the scum and why you are right. Or at the very least, who you think is wrong. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 03 2013 12:02 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I talk about town reads because I am defending my position that people who want to lynch Tunkeg right now are making oh so very stupid decisions. Also I think they are wrong. But I defer to your infinite wisdom Toad. Surely you know better than I. Post some information devoid of townreads and do explain on who is the scum and why you are right. Or at the very least, who you think is wrong. See the thing is, I haven't mentioned a single town read (besides one that only 1 guy in the thread knows about :3) at all and I don't plan on doing it, neither should you. I've mentioned a couple of things I consider weird, mainly some things about Palmar and Marv so far. Not saying I'm the wisdom in person and I never intended it to be that way but it is INCREDIBLY hard to tell a townie who's posting a townread apart from a mafia who's posting a townread while both may look like something useful (it's not). A townread is best kept to yourself, especially early on.
On top of that, it is incredibly easy for mafia to look like they're doing something by posting townreads. They know they're right on something, they don't have to make up bullshit, which they have to when they're doing scumreads unless they're bussing. They can get in the thread make 4 townreads about someone, mix in 2 mafiabuddies and tell people they're mafia as well and there's almost no way to distinguish that from a townie. I mean there is, but it's just WAY hader than by looking at peoples mafiareads because again, mafia have to make up some bullshit when doing those, they got confirmation bias and already know they're wrong and all that is making it hard for mafias to talk about mafia-reads. Talking about townreads isn't for them, not at all. That being said, I'd very much like a situation in which we just keep our townreads to ourselves pretty please. | ||
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