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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 14 2012 02:48 GMT
#732
But you guys should just go in the opposite direction of my reads...
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 14 2012 02:56 GMT
#738
On October 14 2012 11:51 kushm4sta wrote:
honestly my reads are shit right. I've just been focused on people up for lynch.


You are right, your read on me is shit
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 14 2012 03:12 GMT
#750
@Kush

Could you explain your scum read on me ?

I've just skimmed through your filter and it looks like you have suddenly changed your mind. But I may have missed something because your filter is a clusterfuck ^^
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 15 2012 00:45 GMT
#893
Maybe prplhz and daoud are not going to agree
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 15 2012 03:04 GMT
#918
Ok, I've just caught up with the thread now.

First of all, I would like to address your concerns regarding my votes again Hopeless at round 3, when ON was facing him. I understand that they put me at a bad position right now. At the time when I've have dumped all my votes on him, I was pretty sure he was a mafia player. In my eyes, he was the scummiest but we didn't know yet that he was playing that way on purpose (regardless of his possible alignment).
As I explained earlier, I was expecting him to dump all his 9 votes on me in response (in a total mafia OMGUS way) so I believed the chances were very high to have a Hopeless/Djodref final. I thought the mafia would take this final because I don't look so good and it's easier to push a mislynch on a newbie. I was all-in and I wanted Hopeless to be lynched even if it was by risking me to be in the final.

So I went out quite satisfied with my move but when I finally emerged from my drunken sleep, I was very surprised to read Hopeless answer to my case. I would have expect anything but him giving me a town read. I've spent a lot of time thinking why a scum Hopeless would do that. Before going totally nuts, I've decided to stop WIFOMing myself and to reserve my judgement for later.

I'm at work right now and I don't have time to elaborate so much but I would prefer prplhz to explode with the Hot Potatoe today. I was already suspicious of prplhz before all the Sandroba vote thing but it strongly confirms it.

I'm not totally sold on Daoud yet. I've had a newb townie read on him until R3. His defense is very bad but he has been consistent with his read on Sandroba. Also I don't see his last scummate (prplhz?) let him post or vote like he did.


Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 15 2012 03:51 GMT
#921
@prplhz

Do you have any intent to pass the bomb to me ? I would like to burn my hide but I don't want to really hide...

@daoud

If you really are town, doing it this way would not help us find the scum. They would just go on holidays and wait for you to blow up ^^ The only information we would gather at the end is that you were town (but are you?). If you play the potato game, we may have more discussion and it is going to help us to find the remaining mafia players.

On top of that, nobody can make sure that you are going to be lynched today. If you want to hold the potato until you explode, it's your choice, but I don't think it is a townie decision. It looks more like a caught scum behavior (retaining information for his buddies).
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 15 2012 04:12 GMT
#925
You didn't consider that town and mafia have usually both night decisions to give. There is certainly some town roles with some special powers to activate (or not) during the night. Using your power or not is a decision you have to make during the night.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 15 2012 04:22 GMT
#927
No I'm pretty sure he didn't know about the blues. He's a real total newbie...

@daoud

If the majority is wrong about you, you have to prove them wrong. If you are really town, you shouldn't hold onto the potato for these reasons:
  • it's not helping you
  • it's not helping us to get some discussion going (don't you agree that your move would help the mafia to retain info?)
  • it's not going to blow up one mafia
  • it's not fun


That's why I see you wanting to keep the potato as a scum move.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 15 2012 04:25 GMT
#928
On October 15 2012 13:17 Hopeless1der wrote:
That gives absolutely no reasoning towards how me being last to post implies I'm scum.


If you are present in the thread when the night ends, you are more likely to be the one who sent the NK. It's retarded but it could make some sense if you don't know about the blues.

Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 15 2012 04:41 GMT
#930
@daoud

By the way I'm arguing with you about this because I would prefer prplhz to blow up rather than you. So I would appreciate you giving him back the potato if (when ) you are going to hold it.

So I'm officially requesting you to give the potato to prplhz if you can because I think he is more likely to be scum than you. You both look really bad but I'm not feeling like the both of you are scum. This game would be too easy and it's usually not the case.

And, in my opinion, you shouldn't care about what the majority wants if you are really town.

Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 15 2012 04:49 GMT
#931
I have some work to do so I'm going to hide right now. I don't think prplhz would like to give the potato to me anyway...
I would appreciate everybody to burn his hide.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 15 2012 05:30 GMT
#935
@thrawn

What do you think about everybody burning their hide ?

I did it already but I would like everybody to do it. Honestly I'm asking you because I think you would add more weight to this idea. So far, I have a town read on you and I would be surprised if it wasn't the case for everybody.
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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 15 2012 07:28 GMT
#938
On October 15 2012 13:02 da0ud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 12:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
On October 15 2012 12:21 da0ud wrote:
Guys, I know I am town.
If the majority wants me to get lynched, they i will have to go with it.
If so, just give me the potato and i will keep it until the majority asks me to pass it.
If I blow up, then you will see I was town.


Who would you pass it to if we agreed that you don't have to hold it?


I would pass it to Mementoss or Hopeless, as they were the last two ones to participate in the chat during the night.
/snip

Mem with two posts only one at 11pm (HK time) then the last one before day 2 at 2:11am (a bit too close the Day2 official post)
Hopeless first and only post at 1:50am and Day 2 starts at 2.14am.

So i will put Hopeless > Mementoss as i always thought Mem was scum, but Hopeless was too me the limiting factor of the night decisions to me.

I will hence KEEP the potato until you ask me to pass it to where the majority (let say 5, i wont include myself) decides.


@daoud

Did you decide to not consider Hopeless anymore ?
Would you still follow the majority, even if they don't ask you to give the bomb to Hopeless ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 15 2012 08:17 GMT
#941
On October 15 2012 16:28 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 13:02 da0ud wrote:
On October 15 2012 12:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
On October 15 2012 12:21 da0ud wrote:
Guys, I know I am town.
If the majority wants me to get lynched, they i will have to go with it.
If so, just give me the potato and i will keep it until the majority asks me to pass it.
If I blow up, then you will see I was town.


Who would you pass it to if we agreed that you don't have to hold it?


I would pass it to Mementoss or Hopeless, as they were the last two ones to participate in the chat during the night.
/snip

Mem with two posts only one at 11pm (HK time) then the last one before day 2 at 2:11am (a bit too close the Day2 official post)
Hopeless first and only post at 1:50am and Day 2 starts at 2.14am.

So i will put Hopeless > Mementoss as i always thought Mem was scum, but Hopeless was too me the limiting factor of the night decisions to me.

I will hence KEEP the potato until you ask me to pass it to where the majority (let say 5, i wont include myself) decides.


@daoud

Did you decide to not consider Hopeless anymore ?
Would you still follow the majority, even if they don't ask you to give the bomb to Hopeless ?



oopsie, I've said Hopeless for the give he sould give the bomb to but I meant Mementoss in my previous post...
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 15 2012 08:35 GMT
#942
@Mementoss

I've just read your filter and I've found more town reads than scum reads...
Could you share with us your current scum reads ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 15 2012 09:18 GMT
#943
I would like to elaborate on why we should attempt to lynch prplhz.
After looking at prplhz filter, I've found:
  • lot of questions and one liners, not so much real content. I'm betting he tries to look active in the discussion while not giving us so much of his thoughts. The latest example I've found is this one when he gave his top scumreads.
    On October 14 2012 11:42 prplhz wrote:
    i'm thinking hiro and da0ud but who knows

    He hasn't given so much explanations on why hiro is on his list.
  • during D1, he's mainly soft-defending ON and tries to push Sandroba's mislynch until last minute when he realizes his plan is failing apart.
  • his attempt to make us believe he had in fact saved Sandroba
  • him wanting to hold the potato (scum move in my eyes, see my reasoning in posts above)


I know there is nothing much here new but I was already suspicious of prplhz and I'm sure right now that he is scum.

I agree that Daoud filter doesn't look much better but, while reading it with my newb townie confirmation biased goggles, I've felt that he may have tried to find scum by looking at vote patterns and lynch mechanics rather than people posts.
During R1, he aslo have been OMGUSing almost everybody who was attacking him (me for my early attack on his first posts, Sandroba for his hunch, Kush for voting him). I would expect a newb scum to be more likely to conciliate.
All of this could make sense from a newbie town player which doesn't clearly know all the principles of this game (no knowledge of the blue roles for example, ninja voting, etc...).

My feeling is that we definitively have a scum between the two but not that the two of them are scum. Honestly, if they were both scum, I would expect them to concede right now. I'm really more confident that prplhz is the scum out of them two.

I would be happy to see them passing the potato to each other
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 15 2012 09:36 GMT
#944
@Hiro and Mementoss

I would like to see you post more. It's very hard for me to have an opinion on you right now and I don't like this. I know I have not so much posts but the thread is mostly dead when I'm posting. I don't think it's the case for you guys.


@Hopeless

I'm not forgetting you nor forgiving you
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 15 2012 10:54 GMT
#945
I've checked the filters again, with the assumption that one of prplhz and daoud is scum and that we have exactly 3 scums this game.

I have a town read on thrawn because he's promoting good discussion in the thread, he is active and he is clearly trying to find scum.
I have a town read on kush from his meta. But I would like him to put more efforts on scumhunting to be sure.

It's more difficult for me to read austin and ET because it's the first time for me to play with them, I'm leaning towards town for ET because I feel like he is honest in his posts. I can't see any other intention that trying to find scum, also dumping ON like he did would make no sense at all for scum. For austin, I'm also leaning towards town. I really liked his mementoss case and he looks clearly invested in the scumhunt.

So, for the last scum, I'm torn between Mementoss and Hiro and I have a special option on Hopeless. Hence my previous post. I would say Mementoss right now but I've just been reading other people opinion so I need more time to think by myself.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 15 2012 11:39 GMT
#949
@prplhz

Only two people can hide now so you should name two people you're not going to give the potato so they can hide.
You could even threaten them to give them the potato if they don't

By the way, I'm trying to burn my hide right now so I hope you don't want to give it to me ^^
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 15 2012 11:53 GMT
#954
Sorry but I'm already burning mine right now...
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