Aperture Mafia 2: Portal Edition - Page 3

On October 02 2012 06:33 Nisani201 wrote:
Alright I've finally caught up on the thread.

First of all, I understand what jingle is saying about being discouraged to be aggressive because of playing a lot of shitty games. I've played plenty of bad games as town and they don't push me to play better. See learned helplessness.

I also think it's unfair to call out Jingle for not scumhunting because he's been under fire this entire game. I don't think he's scum.

I'm null on perfection-- I don't like how he's only talking about ghost but other than that he doesn't have anything else scummy about him. I'd like to hear about his reads on other people.

I still don't understand why we're letting Drazerk get away with playing an incredibly shitty game. He has *way* too many null reads and is barely contributing. I'm going to keep my vote on him. I mean just look through his filter and you'll see how little he's contributed.

Gonzaw is someone I'm going to spend some more time looking into. Something feels off about him.

On September 30 2012 22:52 strongandbig wrote:
Why does Drazerk want to lynch survivors day1?

On September 30 2012 22:52 strongandbig wrote:
Or at all?

On October 01 2012 12:03 strongandbig wrote:
Hey guys

So I'm just checking in

I call Drazerk out for scummy play
He says "I play like this always so you can't call me out for it"

My response: okay so we lynch you for it, you know it's scummy play but you do it anyway.

When is the deadline?

On October 01 2012 14:25 strongandbig wrote:
here's what im thinking right now

hiro might be scum because he's posted a lot of small one-liners and asked a bunch of questions but not actually contributed much of anything of his own in terms of reads or analysis.

drazerk might be scum because he switched his read from keirathi to me for little reason. not giving any reason why he unvoted keirathi shows that he doesn't really care about who he votes for, he just wants to push the thread around. he knows that he and i often get into shitfights and it's advantageous for him as scum to try and start one, as long as he thinks i won't be able to push a scum read on him through, which he probably does because he's arrogant. the thing is - his argument works both ways around - he says that I should know he doesn't actually try to win as town, but he focuses on third party, so my calling him out for that makes me scum. The thing is, I call him out for that every game - his attempting to call me out on it this game for being scum makes no sense. he's trying to use circular logic but it backfired.

mattchew is sort of trying to scumhunt. this is very helpful in narrowing down his playstyle. he's either doing his bus-all-the-scum scum routine, or he's actually townie. mattchew very rarely makes up fake scum reads on town players when he's scum, he either posts cases on his teammates or just lurks the shit out of everything. so what that means is you can put a high amount of trust that his reads are genuine - he's either bussing or actually trying to find scum.

crossfire99 - pretty focused on drazerk

nisani - lol. what a "case".

also ##vote: drazerk
I think he's probably scum and I want him out of this game.

On October 01 2012 14:30 strongandbig wrote:
@hiro's question about keirathi's plan
so i assume the plan you're talking about is "make a shitty case on purpose to start discussion" ?

it's a god-awful plan, the only discussion you'll start is people saying "what a shitty case, you sure you give a fuck this game?"

also kenpachi rule lol

also keirathi says

- first drazerk "legitimately trying" as town? you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

second this reads pretty sketchy to me, scum like to ingratiate themselves with townies who are suspicious of them as long as their lynch appears remote.

so yeah, keirathi not looking too great to me right now.

but i'm not sure about it - i'm actually not sure if you're right to call it a "plan" - sometimes townies do make weak cases right at the start of a day to get the ball rolling. it's just a thing, not a plan or a gambit or whatever. So I think he may not have been thinking to himself, 'i'll make this case as shitty as possible to bait out responses', but he could have been thinking 'this is dead so even though there's nothing to work with i'll do what i can."

On October 01 2012 14:33 strongandbig wrote:
oh also keirathi i think you said you have a slight meta-based townread on iamperfection, could you tell us about his meta in your opinion? if you didn't say this then whoever did say this pls answer that question but i think it was keirathi.

On October 04 2012 01:52 strongandbig wrote:
its the latter

also hey guys, i'm back in switzerland

i just got mislynched in the other game i'm in and i'd like that not to happen again. i also haven't slept in something like 30 hours.

im guessing the role list number swapping thing is probably also a bus driver or something.

i read a bunch of filters. i'm not sure if i'm finding the right parts though.

i think austin and gonzaw are maybe town, austin's attempts to explain things at length and reasonably feel well in line both with his town meta and with good townie behavior in general and gonzaw hasn't been tunnelling me even though he could and usually does. that gonzaw reason is a pretty bad reason though.

i still want to kill drazerk. can someone please explain to me why it's okay for him to play like he is?

that said, I think nisani is the best lynch at the moment. his filter just doesn't feel town to me, and i agree with whoever it was who said his little "i am null on iamperfection i want to hear more reads etc" thing sounds like how scum talk about each other when forced to.



also i've thought about it and i think that saying this is a good idea right now: my night action was successful but i don't have complete control over who it targets.