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On October 02 2012 01:43 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 01:15 Mattchew wrote:
austin why arent you voting iamperfection with me? Oh noes, I forgot. ##Vote: iamperfectionSorry about that. ##UnvoteWhy am I voting iamperfection over others? He, ghost, and nisani all seem in the same boat where they just dropped votes on someone for weak reasoning and left. Between them, we can't have the whole time, but I like finding a mafia in there. iamperfection doesn't seem to care about anything other than ghost's vote ghost doesn't seem to care about anything other than keirathi's early game effort and...HiroPro? While I agree that the hiro = town comment doesn't feel scummy, how is ghost as a scum player? Half of his posts are just questions to HiroPro and then ducking out. I don't see a scum agenda behind what he asked and what hero answered, it was just "what is happening/what are your reads," but I dislike that he only engages a single person in the thread. Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 04:26 ghost_403 wrote:
So, hiro, whatchoo think's going on in this here thread? Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 04:40 ghost_403 wrote:
Alright, Hiro, so who do you think we should be lynching today? So far, all you've done in this game is setup speculation (a big no-no), and what else? Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 04:46 ghost_403 wrote:
Hiro goes on my town list because no anti-town faction would be dumb enough to say that.
Still wanna lynch Keirathi. Actually hadn't noticed the odd amount of hiro-only posts considering the size of his filter. nisani hasn't done anything since Drazerk reacted to Keirathi's initial unvote. Actually...nisani reads the towniest of the three to me? Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 06:54 Nisani201 wrote:On October 01 2012 06:25 Keirathi wrote:
As a bonus answer, Nisani is the other person (besides ghost) that I am particularly interested in right now. I feel like him jumping in to defend me against Drazerk because I was a "newbie" was taking advantage of an easy situation.
I recently played a game on another forum where I was pushed hard throughout the entire game because I made a small "newbie mistake" at the beginning. This game seems very similar and I don't want us to make the same mistake. Not sure what to think of ghost, I think it's pretty stupid for anyone to vote Kei. I'm also not sure why drazerk took his vote off kei, since it doesn't look like anything really changed his mind. I also think that Mementoss's "analysis" post was really stupid. It was a bad case on austin and the other half was him calling people town. He's on my radar but I'm still more confident in Drazerk. doesn't flip out when someone is looking at him. Gives some thoughts on other players, although they're tremendously small. Seriously. That post, that tiny answer, is basically the towniest thing I find in any of those three filters. Why am I lynching iamperfection over the other two? I don't give ghost as many town points as you do for his hiro post, and I find his hiro fascination odd.
I'm more concerned with JH. I think you were right in noting that he de-lurked right after getting called out. But where you say he's explaining this thought process thoroughly, I disagree. I'm not sure I get the change between PTP3 and here, maybe I didn't read the early days of PTP3 close enough to see this, but I remember JH in PTP3 being standoffish and unwilling to do anything but push single players. Being passive certainly provides an alternative playstyle to that, but it's not actually...doing anything. It doesn't seem to actually be BETTER or anything than PTP3 JH, and I'd expect someone who was unhappy with a bad performance to want to follow it up with a good performance, which this isn't. This is just excuses for NO performance.
ghost has provided opinions confidently. Do you feel that he is hiding something or just doesnt care about adding in extended explainations?
Nisani is more of a meta read for me, but I see him play like this a decent amount
Iamperfection is purposefully ignoring the rest of the thread and is not trying to actually help town with anything useful or anything that resembles effort.
JH as i have said, is a lynch I would support but I would much rather lynch iamperfection
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On October 02 2012 01:43 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 01:38 Mattchew wrote:
Keirathi explain to me why you want to lynch ghost I already did. Show nested quote +On October 01 2012 06:25 Keirathi wrote:On October 01 2012 06:09 gonzaw wrote:
3)Do you think ghost acting like an idiot and wanting to lynch you for mind-boggling reasons makes him scum, reckless townie trying to play the "aggressive hero" role, or is not enough to judge his alignment? This is the harder one. I honestly don't think that ghost is an idiot. He hosted two of my three newbie games, and definitely saw the amount of effort I put into Newbie XIX within the first 12 hours of replacing in, so theoretically he should know the way I play better than anyone else in this game (I've played in one game with about half of the players in this game). So why is he acting like that? Honestly, my first thought was Village Idiot, but I'm not sure if there's a VI-type role, and I think its pointless to speculate about it so I didn't mention it. I 100% think what he has said was anti-town, though. His whole reasoning for voting me was because I "looked through filters. and townies don't put in that much effort early in day 1". Which is such bullshit reasoning, that I can't even fathom a motivation for making it outside of VI.
if you dont think ghost is an idiot you should try to extract the actual meaning from his posts than to just take them at hastey face value.
He is saying, and I agree with, that your early "case" seemed forced and that you were faking putting in that much effort. You even agree with this when you admitted your case was bad and just meant for discussion.
do you have anything else or is your entire read based on failed reading comprehension?
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On October 02 2012 02:20 Drazerk wrote:
Does anyone think the JH lynch feels off to anyone else?
I can't put my finger on it...
it just feels wrong
try and explain why it feels off this post sucks unless you do.. go gonzaw mode and just post everything you are thinking on the matter
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On October 02 2012 02:12 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 02:09 Keirathi wrote:On October 02 2012 01:59 Mattchew wrote:On October 02 2012 01:43 Keirathi wrote:On October 02 2012 01:38 Mattchew wrote:
Keirathi explain to me why you want to lynch ghost I already did. On October 01 2012 06:25 Keirathi wrote:On October 01 2012 06:09 gonzaw wrote:
3)Do you think ghost acting like an idiot and wanting to lynch you for mind-boggling reasons makes him scum, reckless townie trying to play the "aggressive hero" role, or is not enough to judge his alignment? This is the harder one. I honestly don't think that ghost is an idiot. He hosted two of my three newbie games, and definitely saw the amount of effort I put into Newbie XIX within the first 12 hours of replacing in, so theoretically he should know the way I play better than anyone else in this game (I've played in one game with about half of the players in this game). So why is he acting like that? Honestly, my first thought was Village Idiot, but I'm not sure if there's a VI-type role, and I think its pointless to speculate about it so I didn't mention it. I 100% think what he has said was anti-town, though. His whole reasoning for voting me was because I "looked through filters. and townies don't put in that much effort early in day 1". Which is such bullshit reasoning, that I can't even fathom a motivation for making it outside of VI. if you dont think ghost is an idiot you should try to extract the actual meaning from his posts than to just take them at hastey face value. He is saying, and I agree with, that your early "case" seemed forced and that you were faking putting in that much effort. You even agree with this when you admitted your case was bad and just meant for discussion. do you have anything else or is your entire read based on failed reading comprehension? ghost_403 wrote:
Looking through previous filters when there's been, what, twenty posts in this game? No, that's not something that townies do. He didn't say I was faking putting in effort. He said that putting in that much effort early game is not something that a townie would do. EBWOP: I guess he could have meant that he thought I was faking the effort and just making bullshit up. But that's demonstrably not the case.
this is funny cause you were faking effort and making bullshit up as you admitted
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draz what you think of iamperf
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lets expand on this... what do you think of his contributions to the game. What do you think of his read on ghost? Do you agree with his reasoning? What would make you think he is town?
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Just got back from golf I am here
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On October 02 2012 07:47 Keirathi wrote:
So lets get down to the current candidates:
iamperfection
I've said it many times. His demeanor is entirely different than his scum demeanor, and almost exactly the same as his townie demeanor. Yes, its a meta read, but one I'm comfortable not voting today.
His lurking I don't find particularly scummy either, because he has 3 games going at the same time and is posting about the same amount in all of them.
Drazerk
Null, maybe leaning slightly town, because of his interactions with me earlier in the game. He had ample opportunity to push me if he was scum, but instead carried on a conversation explaining his thought process. I don't like his interactions with S&B, because they feel full of confirmation bias from a past dispute, which has pulled him back down closer to null.
And obviously I'm not going to be voting for myself. I've tried to be open with my thought processes and stayed active when it would have been much easier to lurk along with most of the town. I just flat-out don't have anyone that I have a strong enough scumread and enough supporting evidence of the read to push a lynch on. If you want to lynch me for being indecisive, then there's not really much I can do about that. I've been trying to engage people and gather their reactions and give opinions, but I can't magically make up a case.
So honestly I think there's a good chance that the top 3 candidates are all town and scum is having a hay-day.
if you honestly feel this way you need to man the f' up and push a lynch candidate you think will flip scum. you haven't pushed jack shit
also this post just reeks of having more information than me because you can't explain your reads more than saying the word meta. show me the difference and explain it fully.
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draz you there? i am thinking of switching to keirathi who wants to play told ya so if iamperf flips town
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woah, a scum died by my lead and im town? this is like anti-meta
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actually, you calling him scum and then second guessing yourself is what gave me the confidence to stay with it lol
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On October 03 2012 02:29 Drazerk wrote:
gonzaw I am the king of bussing if anything S+B flipping scum would make me look worse
ehem
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On October 03 2012 02:44 Drazerk wrote:
I tried to take the mafia KP and shoot scum with it...
i've done this as well
back on topic, i'll make a post about stuff later
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i am actively lurking debating if i want to put in the effort for a post on people now or later
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On October 03 2012 07:10 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2012 07:07 Mattchew wrote:
i am actively lurking debating if i want to put in the effort for a post on people now or later OOOH Your first post directed at me was calling me scummy, claiming that missing part of the first half of D1 was active lurking! LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH!!
lol going to eat dinner.. ill post when i finsih
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On October 03 2012 08:04 HiroPro wrote:
hm. nisani and s&b, what are your biggest scum reads?
austin, I'd like to see a response to Mementoss's post on you.
honestly i dont think a scum austin is bold enough to shoot mementoss
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On October 03 2012 08:07 HiroPro wrote:
why not?
its wifom but just a gut feeling
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