EPTOn September 28 2012 16:19 Sinensis wrote:
What is that, 1000 words plus later and you STILL haven't disagreed with my accusations? ALL you have done is shift blame to me. My vote is in the right place.
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On September 28 2012 15:18 thrawn2112 wrote:
Those are serious questions I want you to answer, and they address the the problems I have with your accusations.
Anyways,
Sinensis makes this comment:
I addressed this earlier. Going so far as to call it out and say he's "just making a note of it" all reads like he was suspicious of our actions. When I asked him to further elaborate, he said:
He doesn't say anything about him thinking it was suspicious. Just that it was probably making us angry so we shouldn't act like that. No hint of suspicion at all there. I pointed that out to him and asked him if what he was thinking at the time of the original post and his response was:
So now his stance is that he was suspicious of us maybe being mafia and faking a disagreement. I see no consistency between his first post and his last.
He has also completely disregarded my defense, and something I want to point out about his case against me is this:
He makes a case against me that's full of general statements about my play. I address each of his concerns and ask for specific examples of what I've done is scummy. He responds by not answering or talking about a single thing I posted in that defense and brushes it aside and votes for me.
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##Vote Sinensis
On September 28 2012 14:05 Sinensis wrote:
That's not a response, that's a bunch of semi sarcastic questions; half of which you answered yourself. No thanks.
##Vote: Thrawn2112
I'm keeping my vote here for now. I'd like to see what everyone else thinks too.
That's not a response, that's a bunch of semi sarcastic questions; half of which you answered yourself. No thanks.
##Vote: Thrawn2112
I'm keeping my vote here for now. I'd like to see what everyone else thinks too.
Those are serious questions I want you to answer, and they address the the problems I have with your accusations.
Anyways,
Sinensis makes this comment:
On September 27 2012 04:52 Sinensis wrote:
You guys have spent several posts shifting around blame for nothing. I'm just making a note of it.
On September 27 2012 04:45 phagga wrote:
Texting from mobile cause cable modem is broken.
Yes they are out of context, but they don't improve when read in context. . I quoted them because you said I was posting useless stuff, when you had done exactly that yourself. I just wanted to show that you were contradicting yourself.
But tell me, thrawn, who is a scummy person in this game, and why? Do you already see someone?
On September 27 2012 03:35 thrawn2112 wrote:
Do you actually think those posts aren't contributions or are you just jumpy because I ragged on something you were posting about? I see you've made a nice spin-doctored and out of context version of my filter. Serious question btw
On September 27 2012 00:16 phagga wrote:
So much for talking about "useless shit". Also I was trying to shut the discussion about time zones down immediatly.
Meanwhile all you have done (besides the quotes above) is talking about hammering someone, and you are just echoing others. How about you start contributing some?
On September 26 2012 06:07 thrawn2112 wrote:
sup. how about that LoL? I fear we may all be out of a job soon
sup. how about that LoL? I fear we may all be out of a job soon
On September 26 2012 06:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
i would be down for rando lynch
i will flip a coin.
heads it's me, and tails it's you?
i would be down for rando lynch
i will flip a coin.
heads it's me, and tails it's you?
On September 26 2012 11:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
most boring start to a mafia game i've been a part of yet. at least we're not spending forever talking about lurkers tho
who wants me to write walls oftext barf text this game? don't test me, i'll do it.
most boring start to a mafia game i've been a part of yet. at least we're not spending forever talking about lurkers tho
who wants me to write walls of
On September 26 2012 23:10 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah but I'd assume that goes without saying
yeah but I'd assume that goes without saying
So much for talking about "useless shit". Also I was trying to shut the discussion about time zones down immediatly.
Meanwhile all you have done (besides the quotes above) is talking about hammering someone, and you are just echoing others. How about you start contributing some?
Do you actually think those posts aren't contributions or are you just jumpy because I ragged on something you were posting about? I see you've made a nice spin-doctored and out of context version of my filter. Serious question btw
Texting from mobile cause cable modem is broken.
Yes they are out of context, but they don't improve when read in context. . I quoted them because you said I was posting useless stuff, when you had done exactly that yourself. I just wanted to show that you were contradicting yourself.
But tell me, thrawn, who is a scummy person in this game, and why? Do you already see someone?
You guys have spent several posts shifting around blame for nothing. I'm just making a note of it.
I addressed this earlier. Going so far as to call it out and say he's "just making a note of it" all reads like he was suspicious of our actions. When I asked him to further elaborate, he said:
On September 28 2012 04:42 Sinensis wrote:
No, do you?
"Ur useless!"
"No ur useless!"
"No ur uselesser!"
Isn't helping anyone and is probably making both of you angry. There's no reason to do that.
On September 27 2012 21:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
"just making a note of it"
Wanna say anything further than that?
On September 27 2012 04:52 Sinensis wrote:
You guys have spent several posts shifting around blame for nothing. I'm just making a note of it.
On September 27 2012 04:45 phagga wrote:
Texting from mobile cause cable modem is broken.
Yes they are out of context, but they don't improve when read in context. . I quoted them because you said I was posting useless stuff, when you had done exactly that yourself. I just wanted to show that you were contradicting yourself.
But tell me, thrawn, who is a scummy person in this game, and why? Do you already see someone?
On September 27 2012 03:35 thrawn2112 wrote:
Do you actually think those posts aren't contributions or are you just jumpy because I ragged on something you were posting about? I see you've made a nice spin-doctored and out of context version of my filter. Serious question btw
On September 27 2012 00:16 phagga wrote:
So much for talking about "useless shit". Also I was trying to shut the discussion about time zones down immediatly.
Meanwhile all you have done (besides the quotes above) is talking about hammering someone, and you are just echoing others. How about you start contributing some?
On September 26 2012 06:07 thrawn2112 wrote:
sup. how about that LoL? I fear we may all be out of a job soon
sup. how about that LoL? I fear we may all be out of a job soon
On September 26 2012 06:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
i would be down for rando lynch
i will flip a coin.
heads it's me, and tails it's you?
i would be down for rando lynch
i will flip a coin.
heads it's me, and tails it's you?
On September 26 2012 11:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
most boring start to a mafia game i've been a part of yet. at least we're not spending forever talking about lurkers tho
who wants me to write walls oftext barf text this game? don't test me, i'll do it.
most boring start to a mafia game i've been a part of yet. at least we're not spending forever talking about lurkers tho
who wants me to write walls of
On September 26 2012 23:10 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah but I'd assume that goes without saying
yeah but I'd assume that goes without saying
So much for talking about "useless shit". Also I was trying to shut the discussion about time zones down immediatly.
Meanwhile all you have done (besides the quotes above) is talking about hammering someone, and you are just echoing others. How about you start contributing some?
Do you actually think those posts aren't contributions or are you just jumpy because I ragged on something you were posting about? I see you've made a nice spin-doctored and out of context version of my filter. Serious question btw
Texting from mobile cause cable modem is broken.
Yes they are out of context, but they don't improve when read in context. . I quoted them because you said I was posting useless stuff, when you had done exactly that yourself. I just wanted to show that you were contradicting yourself.
But tell me, thrawn, who is a scummy person in this game, and why? Do you already see someone?
You guys have spent several posts shifting around blame for nothing. I'm just making a note of it.
"just making a note of it"
Wanna say anything further than that?
No, do you?
"Ur useless!"
"No ur useless!"
"No ur uselesser!"
Isn't helping anyone and is probably making both of you angry. There's no reason to do that.
He doesn't say anything about him thinking it was suspicious. Just that it was probably making us angry so we shouldn't act like that. No hint of suspicion at all there. I pointed that out to him and asked him if what he was thinking at the time of the original post and his response was:
On September 28 2012 11:08 Sinensis wrote:
Mafia members sometimes have useless little disagreements like you were doing, especially early on, in order to create distance between them in the town's eyes. So I made a note of it.
On September 28 2012 07:06 thrawn2112 wrote:
When you say something like "I'm making a note of it" to me that suggests that you're implying there's something scummy going on but you don't want to come right out and say what it is, but that's not what I'm getting from this last response. Were you suspicious of how we were interacting?
On September 28 2012 04:42 Sinensis wrote:
No, do you?
"Ur useless!"
"No ur useless!"
"No ur uselesser!"
Isn't helping anyone and is probably making both of you angry. There's no reason to do that.
No, do you?
"Ur useless!"
"No ur useless!"
"No ur uselesser!"
Isn't helping anyone and is probably making both of you angry. There's no reason to do that.
When you say something like "I'm making a note of it" to me that suggests that you're implying there's something scummy going on but you don't want to come right out and say what it is, but that's not what I'm getting from this last response. Were you suspicious of how we were interacting?
Mafia members sometimes have useless little disagreements like you were doing, especially early on, in order to create distance between them in the town's eyes. So I made a note of it.
So now his stance is that he was suspicious of us maybe being mafia and faking a disagreement. I see no consistency between his first post and his last.
He has also completely disregarded my defense, and something I want to point out about his case against me is this:
On September 28 2012 13:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
So if I were to not go after other people that would somehow be better than what I've been doing? Well of course not. So how are you making the distinction that I'm trying to direct attention from myself? Are the accusations or questions I've posted scummy looking? Basically it seems like you are accusing me of "too much scumhunting" without going into detail about how the scumhunting looks suspicious.
I'm trying to disrupt communication? So I'm just supposed to sit back and let everyone talk to each other and then come in afterwards with my read without being able to ask people questions beforehand? And I think "rarely follow through" is an exaggeration. Which "nitpicks" do you have a problem with? Is your concern about the number of them or the usefulness of them?
What I want you to be more specific about is exact cases you're accusing me over. Tell me which ones you're actually talking about. You've just made some general statements about my play without actually saying which specific examples you think are scummy and why, and honestly I'm a little wary about how genuine your intentions are.
On September 28 2012 13:14 Sinensis wrote:@Thrawn2112: I accuse you of only going after other people in order to direct attention away from yourself, and I accuse you of picking easy targets.
So if I were to not go after other people that would somehow be better than what I've been doing? Well of course not. So how are you making the distinction that I'm trying to direct attention from myself? Are the accusations or questions I've posted scummy looking? Basically it seems like you are accusing me of "too much scumhunting" without going into detail about how the scumhunting looks suspicious.
On September 28 2012 13:14 Sinensis wrote:Also, I accuse you of trying to disrupt communication between other players. You're quick to nit pick every post we make but you rarely follow through with your nit picking.
I'm trying to disrupt communication? So I'm just supposed to sit back and let everyone talk to each other and then come in afterwards with my read without being able to ask people questions beforehand? And I think "rarely follow through" is an exaggeration. Which "nitpicks" do you have a problem with? Is your concern about the number of them or the usefulness of them?
What I want you to be more specific about is exact cases you're accusing me over. Tell me which ones you're actually talking about. You've just made some general statements about my play without actually saying which specific examples you think are scummy and why, and honestly I'm a little wary about how genuine your intentions are.
He makes a case against me that's full of general statements about my play. I address each of his concerns and ask for specific examples of what I've done is scummy. He responds by not answering or talking about a single thing I posted in that defense and brushes it aside and votes for me.
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##Vote Sinensis
What is that, 1000 words plus later and you STILL haven't disagreed with my accusations? ALL you have done is shift blame to me. My vote is in the right place.
Don't be intimidated by the word count, feel free to defend yourself.
You need to go reread my responses to your posts and come back and say something about them other than they aren't worth responding to.
