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On September 29 2012 22:16 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 22:14 Ottoxlol wrote:@austin On September 28 2012 07:29 austinmcc wrote:
Going out for a few hours. Would prefer we not lynch Ottox during that time. Then why didnt you unvote me? This post feels like you really don't care about it, but if we did you can point to this post later. Also I feel like your vote on phagga stood out from everyone else's, I just can't grasp it what decided that you won't lynch thrawn, you had both pinned as scummy but as far as your posts go I see you having more problems with thrawn then phagga. Could you tell me what made you decide that phagga is the better vote? And why didnt you push for phagga? @iamperfection You are here in the thread a lot, but doesnt participate in the discussion, why is that? @Bluelightz Who will you vote tomorrow? I feel like your case on phagga was one of the weakest and you did not seem interested in pushing for him or getting more from your other scumread Sinensis. Why is my case one of the weakest? I might vote phagga tomorrow, but I'm feeling like I should rethink phagga, although my brain still says phagga is scum. Also, How the fuck could I push phagga when I was asleep after posting my case (or my last post of day 1?)
Your case on him was that he post too much useless things, and only that, this is why I found it kind a weak. You had a very strong town read on thrawn, and thats why it is kind of surprising that you did not try more, I suppose if you slept its ok.
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However despite your efforts(?) not too much of a discussion emerged even though iamperfection was in the thread.
You voted at .15, then waited half an hour, asked if anyone around at .45, then when iamp .52 posted that was too late for discussion for you, when he replied that its still a plenty of time you had a question for him at 57 (moments before the lynch). If your main priority was to stir up the thread a bit why wait so long? Also why not make a nice case on him that you can point to, instead of just asking "what do you think about phagga"? I feel somehow the same with the thing in my previous post about unvoting me, you seem to put a lot of effort into the game but doesnt care at all about who we lynch.
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i rly dont have time to read the whole thread atm, but if someone else counterclaim, lynch him or phagga first then the other, if no one that would make phagga confirmed town if I am right
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On September 30 2012 15:18 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 22:14 Ottoxlol wrote:@austin On September 28 2012 07:29 austinmcc wrote:
Going out for a few hours. Would prefer we not lynch Ottox during that time. Then why didnt you unvote me? This post feels like you really don't care about it, but if we did you can point to this post later. Also I feel like your vote on phagga stood out from everyone else's, I just can't grasp it what decided that you won't lynch thrawn, you had both pinned as scummy but as far as your posts go I see you having more problems with thrawn then phagga. Could you tell me what made you decide that phagga is the better vote? And why didnt you push for phagga? @iamperfection You are here in the thread a lot, but doesnt participate in the discussion, why is that? @Bluelightz Who will you vote tomorrow? I feel like your case on phagga was one of the weakest and you did not seem interested in pushing for him or getting more from your other scumread Sinensis. and though i responded to this earlier i would like to know what you mean by active but not in discussion please.
I mean the thread was discussing phagga lynch and you didn't talk about it at all, I find it very strange that one would not tell his thoughts as town.
I don't feel like the case on Sinensis has any real points, his useless wifoming can be something to derail this awesomely active mafia game but idk, my gut says its nothing. I don't see where his logic failed (btw, I pinned austin as scummy too, this was only one of his scummy posts, I already posted N1 my suspicion on him.)
Iamperfection, you announced that you will start hunting scum, that you are suspicious of the 2 lurkers and phagga but did not provide anything why. After that Sinensis comes around with this useless "I would have voted austin if he's alive and thrawn is scum" and you vote him, even when I feel like your fos on SnB is much more viable. This is the post I am referring to
+ Show Spoiler +On September 29 2012 01:20 strongandbig wrote:
Okay so I retread Otto and thrawn's filters again.
I want to think otto is scum because I feel like "getting pissed because the case against you is bad or badly expressed" is usually a scum tell. Scum get mad because "they don't deserve to find me like that"
Townies get mad because "why won't they listen to me they're just being stubborn or having confirmation bias" but that usually only comes after they make a defense.
So fos for that on Otto.
But the thing is the rest of his filter doesn't feel scummy to me. He stuck with his suspicion of me but didn't over exaggerate it when I was posting weird and shitty stuff. And his stuff on the random lynch seemed retarded and purposely obtuse but when I retread it assuming he actually thought a random lynch meant "everyone randomize their vote" it is actually consistent.
In summary: Otto you need to post more and I don't like your reaction to pressure but at this point I don't want to lynch you.
So here's who I do want to lynch - thrawn.
This was the first time I read his filter all the way through, and I noticed two trends - lack of follow through and jumping reads. Look at his attacks on me and on Otto. He asks me about shiaopi and I just completely blow him off on account of not actually having read his post. But the thing is, he didn't push me on it except for a side comment at some point, because he'd moved on to Otto. Then he jumps to sinensis without actually explaining why his read on Otto changed, except that people were jumping off of Otto at that point.
So I think we should lunch thrawn.
I don't think we should no lynch. Unless I'm doing the math wrong, all that buys us is another no lunch. Yes that gives us extra time, but it also pretty much lets scum hand pick who is alive at lylo, it's not worth it.
So ##vote: thrawn2112
I really would like to get this thread active and I don't see any other way then to start lynching lurkers. If they care at all they can come back before hammering.
SnB not just lurks but posted this strange nolynch thingy.
My concern with Bluelightz is that he did not try to psh for phagga even tho he had a townread on thrawn, his case on phagga was very weak, he don't pursue his other scumread Sinensis at all.
##Vote: Bluelightz
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@Bluelightz: I was talking about d1, n1 before the claim. Just because you have your vote on someone that means you leave your other scumreads alone? That is scummy as fuck. You didn't push phagga even, I was just wondering why didn't you try to pressure Sinensis to try hunt scum. Get information, ask him things etc. Just because I think we should lynch you right now that doesnt mean I won't pursue SnB to talk about his nolynch thing
@Shiaopi, iamperfection: what do you guys mean by that Sinensis logic is flawed? he posted the post of austin that made him change his mind from the first post you guys are linking
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@Bluelight, we know that both phagga and thrawn are town so why would you only look at thrawn voters?
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Not that I am worried, I just don't see how are those voting thrawn are more scummy. I would love that you look at everyone, phagga is town as well so those voters can be scum too.
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On October 02 2012 01:14 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 01:10 Ottoxlol wrote:
@Bluelightz: I was talking about d1, n1 before the claim. Just because you have your vote on someone that means you leave your other scumreads alone? That is scummy as fuck. You didn't push phagga even, I was just wondering why didn't you try to pressure Sinensis to try hunt scum. Get information, ask him things etc. Just because I think we should lynch you right now that doesnt mean I won't pursue SnB to talk about his nolynch thing
@Shiaopi, iamperfection: what do you guys mean by that Sinensis logic is flawed? he posted the post of austin that made him change his mind from the first post you guys are linking @Ottox did you push thrawn yourself?
My case on thrawn was perfect as far as I am concerned, he tried to lie to get me lynch and I got him in the process. If there someone else would have been near lynching I would have pushed with all my fury for thrawn because I was 1000% sure that there is no way a town would do that thrawn did with his case on me, his useless posts etc
So if you are sure about phagga being town then why don't you take a look at the phagga voters? Is it a scum tactic to vote for the guy getting lynched when 2 town is pinned against each other? No. They just vote on whoever they can make a case on, and I think your case was nothing, hence why you should die today
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Why are you avoiding my questions?
Everyone voting "tried to mislynch a town", why are you fixed on me/thrawn voters? Phagga is town as well, and you confirmed that you think that too so wtf
My case was strong on thrawn I was trying to lynch scum, I blame him. If you think that my case was really bad why don't you attack it before? Only after I voted you.
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The difference that I pointed out that your case on phagga was that he post useless things, and nothing more meanwhile my case on thrawn had some substance with his other posts and his lies. Thats the difference between perfect case and a weak case
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Says the guy who lurked until I voted him :D You must be joking.
Meanwhile you still fail to explain why do you think scum must have voted thrawn, when everyone voting phagga was wrong just as well.
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I do.. I asked you Shiaopi what is wrong with Sinensis again, the post he did quote was scummy in my opinion so his logic is ok i think.
What do you make of Bluelightz? His case on me is one thing, but what do you think about his unwillingness to check those who voted phagga d1?
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On October 03 2012 01:12 ShiaoPi wrote:
also I think we might be heading into no-lynch since nobody is giving a fuck
this is what I fear.. snb is on his way to get modkilled right? I think his 36h is up Blazinghand?
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@SnB, why did you mention nolynch d1?
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snb voted me without any reasoning.. so I will hammer him
##vote strongandbig
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He was inactive for 40 something hours, we are fine without him, he did not contribute at all. Nolynch would have been even worse (scum can kill more active townies at night then push for lynching him or any easy lynch targets at day). I was already thinking about voting him since no one supported my case on Bluelightz but I thought he will be modkilled. Then I checked back in the thread before deadline and saw he voted me without providing any reasoning so I hammered him.
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iamperfection, he was rly scummy d1, he promised to improve, kind a tried but Shiaopi's case I can agree on, he's not just lacking activity, he's here in the thread a LOT but doesnt hunt scum only calling out lurkers and sheep the first case there is, just as he done d1.
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On October 03 2012 20:00 Bluelightz wrote:
I don't think there's a chance Ottox is town after what he did in the last minutes ...
I already explained it, what do you mean?
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On October 03 2012 22:11 Bluelightz wrote:
Ottox says 'No one supported my Bluelightz case' But he didn't do a shit about convincing people, then he just flipped on SnB with no real case (at that time). Anyway, I still think Ottox is scummy and should die tommorow.
Stop lying. I already explained why I hammered SnB. It was a good play if you are town. If you fail to understand the basic mechanics maybe you should try something less hard to play.
On October 03 2012 00:43 Ottoxlol wrote:
I do.. I asked you Shiaopi what is wrong with Sinensis again, the post he did quote was scummy in my opinion so his logic is ok i think.
What do you make of Bluelightz? His case on me is one thing, but what do you think about his unwillingness to check those who voted phagga d1?
Everyone else was afk , waiting on you to answer what did you mean by only looking at thrawn voters or dissed my case with such ignorance I had no chance to lynch you. Thank god you started posting, I have so much more thing to work with  )))
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