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On September 30 2012 13:16 Z-BosoN wrote: Well this started off quicker than I expected. Sup guys! ##Vote Shady Sands that random? | ||
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On September 30 2012 13:59 ShiaoPi wrote: Shady besides you with your /in post nobody on the list looks like an obvious troll/unreadable kind of guy. (besides grush on the replacement), so I do not think this whole "gambit" as you call it was necessary... Spare me that kind of crap, you obviously wanted to troll around. you won't get thanks for nothing from me. Still kind of angry here, I'll be out to grab lunch and cool off... Hey i think your full of crap Shadys actions made you angry enough to leave the computer just because shady ALTernated With cap or typed in ALL CAPS. Come on ya im not buying it and i think you just wanted to weigh in on the situation and then have an excuse to leave. [/b]## Vote shiaoPI[/b] Talk to me shiao i wish to know more. | ||
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On September 30 2012 20:03 kushm4sta wrote: I voted for shady because he called me a troll. There is no one better to vote for atm. I might as well vote for someone who was mean to me and has a history of being mean to me. Also I'm not a fan of his content. .........grow up. | ||
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On October 01 2012 01:17 kingjames01 wrote: There's no need to be defensive. I said that the post seemed contrived, not that it was. Them why did you say it was contrived what was the point? | ||
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On October 01 2012 04:58 risk.nuke wrote: I'm thinking we kill kush. All in favor? im in favor of lynching this guy. All in favor? | ||
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On October 01 2012 06:15 slOosh wrote: This is the most upsetting start to a game I've played. So I'm gonna lay some ground rules because people are playing in a way that they shirk responsibilities with their actions / words. Biggest thing is stop saying "I wanna lynch player X what do you think?". There is no back up analysis, and it allows people to toss out names at random. You think someone is scum, back it up. Don't say "seems scummy maybe". It lets people sow seeds of suspicion and it makes mislynches more untraceable. Shady's vote makes no sense as VE pointed out. In fact the whole thing doesn't make sense, including how he has already started making connective tells on Kush based on Z-Boson. But it seems just as explainable by a combination of poor play / leftover emotions from TL-LVII. I'd wait to see what he can produce (case wise or whatnot) since arguing whether acting like a troll to incite a mod warning isn't conclusive to determining alignment. VE I don't see your issue with annul - or are you doing one of those reaction things because its leaning on the destructive side right now. Thats why i would like to lynch the nuke guy. come in to thread and says he wants to lynch someone and leaves. So do you think he is scum like i do? | ||
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On October 01 2012 07:43 slOosh wrote: Well I've played with risk a couple times and he plays the more hands off approach as town. He takes his time with things and doesn't care what people think if he thinks he is right. At the same time he can be totally lazy so you have to wait for him to generate content then evaluate what he brings. Cf. PYP3, Poison Mini Mafia, Beauracracy and Dwarf Mini (town, scum town respective). So right now I'm null on him. What is your take on kush? Easy mislynch or newbie scum? i obsed his two last games(He rolled scum i both). i would say hes a bit ...unstable. however he slips a lot and has many break downs in logic in his scum games that i saw. If he is scum he will slip eventually. | ||
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On October 01 2012 13:17 Shady Sands wrote: In response to trolling: I think people are drastically overblowing the following post: How is that a lie, Marv? I explicitly said I was trolling even though on the very first page DrH told GRush to eff off for presumed trolliness. I knew this was going to get me a high chance of being modkilled. But given that there are people who are possibly smurfing for others here, there's still a risk that trolls are here, so I wanted to play that way to make sure no one dared to troll... or at least I could abuse tolerance for trolls to the same extent as others. Now reading through filters rofl i think if you were town the top concern would be to find scum. get out scum. | ||
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On October 02 2012 00:25 marvellosity wrote: I'm fine with Sharrant atm. Yes he took ages to come in to the thread (but hello austin, 1 post, talis, Admiral A, 0 posts...) but having done so he gave his full thoughts on the hot topics, which is what I'd want from a latecomer. I Saw that tails had a 15 page filter in mad men. Has he ever gone mia like this? | ||
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And even if you believe his irl excuse the ryder cup is over now so whats his excuse now? The shady i remember would not abandon thread like this. Vote shady 2012 for scum. | ||
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On October 02 2012 11:37 Sharrant wrote: One point for you all to consider when you're thinking about scum in this push: Is not the basis of this push that Shady is likely to be modkilled? Modkills do not flip. They can be using this to hide a red (supposing he is modkilled) but not to save (unless he posts and such before he is modkilled and saves himself). he wouldn't be replaced? | ||
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On October 02 2012 11:56 annul wrote: and read node's filter this was very easy. two posts. first post defends shady and calls out kush; second post retreats from this defense slightly and continues to argue against kush. considering node's only two posts match what i have been arguing all along............. i like this guy. the big question now is what it is about these two posts that caused 8 people to drop their pants and go all in on this guy. like, i read the posts... what is there exactly that people are seeing? this doesnt make sense. 8 votes on him so i have to assume with a normal mafia count that there are at least some towns on him.... why? when did shady push anything? How could a town player reading the thread think shady is town because he pushed something after his trolling. what did shady push? | ||
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On October 02 2012 12:03 annul wrote: ....nowhere did i mention shady pushing anything? node said it On October 01 2012 17:40 Node wrote: I don't think Shady Sands is scum -- at least, not given what we've seen so far. His "trolling" antics were silly, but they weren't scummy. If he were scum, I don't think he would've dropped the trolling pretext so quickly, and I certainly don't think he would be willing to reappear and start pushing targets. Now, kush on the other hand has been talking a lot about absolutely nothing. Seeing as he considers his vote on Shady absolutely inconsequential so far ("My vote for Shady had nothing to do with a scumread of any sort"), he's sure spent an awful lot of time discussing it. Weirdly enough, he justifies his current vote by saying he doesn't have any scum reads, yet has also thrown a few FoS's around. So, we see his vote that doesn't matter (yet) on someone he doesn't care about, instead of actually pushing the rather perfunctory cases he's made so far, possibly just so he can look like he's actually contributing. So, I'll actually put my vote where my mouth is. ##vote kushm4sta Bolded for emphasis. This is pretty much exactly how Coagulation plays every game. If he's town, in a day or two he'll come up with a handful of proper scum reads to tunnel for the rest of the game, about half of which will be correct. | ||
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On October 01 2012 17:40 Node wrote: I don't think Shady Sands is scum -- at least, not given what we've seen so far. His "trolling" antics were silly, but they weren't scummy. If he were scum, I don't think he would've dropped the trolling pretext so quickly, and I certainly don't think he would be willing to reappear and start pushing targets. Now, kush on the other hand has been talking a lot about absolutely nothing. Seeing as he considers his vote on Shady absolutely inconsequential so far ("My vote for Shady had nothing to do with a scumread of any sort"), he's sure spent an awful lot of time discussing it. Weirdly enough, he justifies his current vote by saying he doesn't have any scum reads, yet has also thrown a few FoS's around. So, we see his vote that doesn't matter (yet) on someone he doesn't care about, instead of actually pushing the rather perfunctory cases he's made so far, possibly just so he can look like he's actually contributing. So, I'll actually put my vote where my mouth is. ##vote kushm4sta Bolded for emphasis. This is pretty much exactly how Coagulation plays every game. If he's town, in a day or two he'll come up with a handful of proper scum reads to tunnel for the rest of the game, about half of which will be correct. | ||
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On October 02 2012 18:54 Kreb wrote: Hmm, this kinda rivals marv's earlier claim about Kush. And considering: -I think marv acted scummy in the Node case -marv kinda defended Kush when early votes started to land on him -Kush was also an early joiner of the Node wagon -You think Kush is playing a toned down scum game Kush could definitely earn a spot in my scummy-looking group of austin/VE/Marv. Why did you only include marv in those that defended kush. I remember several people doing. Myself included somewhat. | ||
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On October 02 2012 21:39 marvellosity wrote: I'll explain it a little more factually for you, Kreb. At the time I started the voting off, the austin wagon was already not getting off the ground. Before I laid my vote, the count was at Shady: 9, austin: 3. And in fact people were consolidating on to Shady; when I placed my vote, the previous 5 votes had gone on to Shady. For Node to be a 'distractionary' wagon, it would certainly be a distractionary wagon off of Shady. Now tell me how this makes sense? well you did lead a wagon from one townie to another as scum in a previous game. Although i think this situation is different. | ||
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On October 02 2012 12:12 Node wrote: This is beyond ridiculous. I misinterpreted austin's post as being more about finding Shady town-ish at all. Shady's pushing had been weak, but it was certainly a shift from his earlier play -- that's what I was getting at. He was backing up his claims by contributing instead of simply running away. I just don't think that's something mafia would be willing to do. At the time I was also under the assumption that he was, you know, still playing. Which is why the second post said what it did -- I was backing off of those claims specifically because Shady was no longer contributing. And what scares me the most about this switch is how little justification everyone that's not austin is giving. Kush's is literally the definition of an OMGUS, VE just "likes a Node lynch" (yet is pestering annul for his thoughts on me)... It happens. I've done it. Look at Death Note Mini, the last game I played in. On a few days players placed votes on me, then switched off as it got closer to the deadline and I hadn't posted -- and used the exact justification that they expected me to be modkilled. Of course, it never happened. Anyways, switching my vote to Shady because apparently that might be what it takes to me from getting lynched. i think it wasn't a distraction at all and i think node has a good chane of flipping scum. The sob just complained when the wagon came upon him. If he thought he was in true danger why not dump reads. All he really said in that post was this is bs and not fair. If he is town he should get in here and tell us what he thinks. | ||
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Also misguided townie i love that one marv might steal it. | ||
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On October 03 2012 22:24 marvellosity wrote: Risen protected me and his role is that if he protects mafia he dies 'winks at marv' ## Vote Marvelosity | ||
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On October 04 2012 07:49 kushm4sta wrote: Marv had no reason to bus Node like that. For a while it looked like Node was going to get lynched. I do not suspect node anymore. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836 Why did marv switch from bluelightz to obvious in this game on day 1. Marv was scum and led a wagon from one townie to another and the only purpose i see was to be confusing. I agree with austin we must decide each player by themselves and not play ourselves into to many wifom mind games on what marv would do or wouldn't do. Node has done nothing to make me think he is town. | ||
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On October 04 2012 09:04 kushm4sta wrote: Yes but marv switching from 1 townie to another is different from switching from 1 townie to a scum. yes, the point is marv is very crafty he could have just sat back. i wouldn't use the wagon as the only justification for saying node is town. | ||
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On October 04 2012 09:13 marvellosity wrote: thank you iamp. it's nice to be known as very crafty. quiet you i saw your little show earlier and he will be next. | ||
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On October 04 2012 09:15 VisceraEyes wrote: Nono...he's genuinely butthurt. That was no show. not everything is about you. | ||
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On October 04 2012 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote: ? I don't even understand this statement. I assumed you were talking about marv. forget it I've said to much already. | ||
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On October 04 2012 09:27 marvellosity wrote: but it's a fun game. and it's something i'm actually serious about :o something tells me you might play even if we dont want to | ||
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On October 04 2012 09:40 marvellosity wrote: I hate scum too. So let's lynch someone else today. i thought you were going to bed | ||
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On October 05 2012 09:22 marvellosity wrote: This game is boring. Anyway, third party is very likely to be BloodyC0bbler. Thank me later. if you dont give reasons were just going to lynch you..... o wait. | ||
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Austin- Contributed a lot and i dont think he would be able to come with some of the cases he did as scum. I agree that marvs flip says nothing about node. Like i said before marv is crafty and nod still hasent done anything to make me think he is town. Austin just had the unfortunate circumstance of being in the wrong place at the wrong time and i dont believe the node case was a distraction for anything. Kush- In all of his posts i don't get a sense he has extra information. Also his larg amount activity makes me think he is town. So who do i think is scum well for now i would say the most likely. Node- this sob has done nothing to make me think he is town. Also the orginal case brought up against him is still valid despite marvs presence. VE- somebody mentioned this earlier On October 01 2012 00:42 VisceraEyes wrote: And regardless of your alignment annul, you should probably know that I'm going to be exhausting. I haven't been in a mafia game for like a week or two. He said he would be exhausting and he hasn't been. I played with ve town briefly once before and i wouldn't describe his play this game as that here. In that game he dominated the discussion when he was there and was by and far the town "leader" i would say. I think the case that tails Posted earlierr on Is valid and VE has an activity tell that he cant shake. My gut tells me he would bee a good lynch. | ||
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@ promthelax I see no reason to not believe your claim i welcome you my fellow town bro. @hapahauli On October 06 2012 06:45 Hapahauli wrote: Still catching up, but this caught my eye: Shouldn't you be much more concerned about death than this if you are town? This is some weak ass shit. For someone who says the are cathing up on the entire thread i call bullshit. If you have been "catching" up to thread like you say you are you would have noticed players have been saying dumb shit like this alllllllllll game. I expect better from you hapa and this first post of yours is very concerning. The player you replaced gave me no reason to think he was town and now you come in with this. I think your scum and just wanted something to say by casting some idle suspicion while maintaining the facade of activity. What say you? | ||
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On October 06 2012 09:02 Hapahauli wrote: @ iamperfection How is it "weak-ass shit?" It looks pretty damn scummy to me. He doesn't want to build a case before the nightflip... why? In particular, why the nightflip? He didn't simply say he was lazy. He didn't simply say he didn't feel like posting. He didn't want to post until after the nightflip. Problem is, this makes no sense - what would he gain from posting after the nightflip? Nothing. This isn't a lynch flip, it's an NK flip. It's as if he's suggesting a scum NK will help him make his lynch decision. What I find curious is that you decided to chainsaw defend someone who posted something very blatantly scummy. You didn't even comment on it. Instead, you dismissed it, saying that other people have been posting stupid shit. Furthermore, you "think I'm scum" for some very sketchy rationale. You expect me to somehow know that people have been posting "dumb shit" when I replaced in the game an hour ago. How on earth could I read 68 pages of game thread in an hour? Risk isn't posting "dumb shit", he's posting scummy shit. So I find you rather scummy iamperfection. What say you? my point is people have been posting dumb shit the entire game. Did you not see how the game start? Also twisting my words nice "chainsaw defend" i don't think i said anything about his alignment. I'm curios why this post in particular stood out so much as opposed to the countless other stupid posts that have been made. From the very START of the game dumb shit has been posted so i find it strange that this post sticks out to you. | ||
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On October 06 2012 09:15 Hapahauli wrote: I suggest you look up the definition of chainsaw defend. Here ya go: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Tarhalindur_Standard_Tells You have yet to describe why what risk is saying isn't scummy. Other people saying stupid shit in no way is a valid defense of risk. I find it scummier than the rest of the stuff I have read so far. what page are you on? | ||
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On October 06 2012 09:27 Hapahauli wrote: What does that have to do with anything? Do you think he's lying about not wanting to post until after the NK? Seriously? He doesn't want to post after the NK because he's scum. He's telling the truth about that. Or do you think he's teling the truth because he's town? I've read the recent few pages plus most of D1/N1. As far as I know on D1, Shady said something stupid pregame and got lynched for it. A bunch of people said stupid things in response. Care to tell me what I should find scummier at the moment? Cool story bro. i dont know or in other words im null on him. We are talking about you now anyways. | ||
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On October 06 2012 09:28 austinmcc wrote: Nah. My play may not have been a documentary, but it's based on true events. Node was mafia. no i was talking about risk.nuke | ||
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On October 06 2012 09:31 Hapahauli wrote: I told you exactly why it's scummy. You have not refuted this. You have not criticized this. Instead you offer weak-ass reasons to defend someone - as if other people's behavior somehow vindicates risk's behavior. So tell me why you think risk is town/not-scummy/whatever? You keep saying that he could be telling the truth, but you've never offered reasoning for it. im null on him i dont see him sticking out for any reason from the rest of the players. | ||
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On October 06 2012 09:31 Hapahauli wrote: I told you exactly why it's scummy. You have not refuted this. You have not criticized this. Instead you offer weak-ass reasons to defend someone - as if other people's behavior somehow vindicates risk's behavior. So tell me why you think risk is town/not-scummy/whatever? You keep saying that he could be telling the truth, but you've never offered reasoning for it. here a little homework for you. go read kush's filter for me. gogogogogogo tell me what you think | ||
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On October 06 2012 09:37 austinmcc wrote: iamperfection scum, no townie would make someone do this. there is a method to the madness just you wait | ||
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On October 06 2012 09:41 Hapahauli wrote: *gasp* you're telling me that kush posted something scummy?! That's so abnormal. Here's the Newbie XXVI obs QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/zDzCCmJq78hdr Read my posts (45-47). Believe it or not, Kush being super scummy is not alignment indicative. He's capable of doing this shit as scum or town. However, he does have a discernable meta-difference from when he's scum or town. He tends to be really angry and whine a lot as scum. He's a lot calmer/"logical" when town. A quick readthrough of his filter makes me lean town on him. When he's pressured in this game, he's much calmer (relatively) than his scum games. Read his filter in Newbie XXVII or GSL II Mini to see how he reacts to pressure as scum. It's possible he could've learned from his mistakes, but for now, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. ok now do coagulation. theres a method...... just do it | ||
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On October 06 2012 09:51 Hapahauli wrote: I'll admit Coag's filter is quite strange. I'm unsure what to think of it. On the one hand, he really hasn't done much of anything, and he's a vet. On the other hand, he's rather indignant - he's demonstrating a lot of the "I don't give a fuck" attitude that you yourself did in Rockband Mini. When you put these two together... I don't know. I'm pretty null on him. I'd have to look more into his meta to give you a definitive response. That's a project for tomorrow if I'm still alive. I'm much more sold on risk. Secondly, I'm STILL waiting for a response here: You've still have not explained why I'm wrong here, or why risk can be considered null after this. i never said you are wrong im just saying i found it strange that the post stuck out to you considering all the other posts that have been made that i would say are very similar. | ||
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i was trying to help it was a hint!!! | ||
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On October 06 2012 09:59 kushm4sta wrote: oh just the fbi just took over this investigation wat | ||
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On October 06 2012 10:00 Hapahauli wrote: Well I hope atleast agree that risk needs to answer for this. But in additional context, consider that risk hasn't been under much suspicion this game (atleast from what I've read). It's really really odd that he's not scared of getting NK'd in this context. fair enough i wont fight his battle for him. Also im fairly certain he can easily answer the question if he is town. | ||
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On October 06 2012 10:10 Hapahauli wrote: Cool. Since you asked me about kush/Coag, what do you think of 'em? I believe kush to be town his high activity and hes been somewhat pushing discussion. Despite his wifom mind bombs my gut tells me town. Coag is a prime concern of me. On October 06 2012 04:51 Coagulation wrote: why the fuck am I on the list? Im sorry but I have done nothing to look scummy at all. Maybe im not the most active player here but that sure as fuck doesnt indicate that im scum in any way. I dont like that acted like a cry baby when he was listed on someones scum list. Stuck out to me as weird. Especially in a large game like this why would a town player give a fuck that he was on someones list. | ||
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On October 06 2012 10:11 Hapahauli wrote: To clarify, I haven't seen you give an opinion on Coag, and I'm wondering if you still think Kush is town as you stated before, given that you asked me to make a read on him (presumably because his filter was scummy)? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371260¤tpage=61#1208 just because i dont list all my suspicions dosent mean im not suspicious. My fellow town member are on a need to know basis. But since you asked so nicely i thought i would share. | ||
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On October 06 2012 10:15 DarthPunk wrote: This recent passage of play has been really odd. Like a shit fight just appears out of nowhere and then kind of disappears again. 0_o why is it odd? | ||
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On October 06 2012 10:21 DarthPunk wrote: It literally boggles the mind that you have a town read on kush despite his WIFOM bombs. and giving a 'gut read' is a weak as shit reason for this. Care to explain why kush would WIFOM bomb me/ derail the thread/ backdown so hard when called out/ have such a small percentage of his filter consist of scum hunting, as town? Care to give a reason for your read other than a 'gut read'? no i don't. but I'm fairly certain because (redacted because of ongoing game) of what i saw there. so haha you will just have to wait. | ||
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On October 06 2012 10:30 Hapahauli wrote: Unfortunately it has to end soon, since I'm off to the bar in about 15 minutes =/ @ Darth Regarding kush: read 'dis pl0x He could be scum, but I think his meta (in particular his anger) suggests otherwise. You were in Newbie XXVIII - doesn't his play look different? you have to throw the anger out now he is well aware of it now. | ||
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On October 06 2012 09:59 kushm4sta wrote: oh just the fbi just took over this investigation speaking of kush wtf are you talking about? | ||
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On October 06 2012 10:41 Hapahauli wrote: EBWOP: GAH formatting... @ Austin Where did you go? You went from dead sure that I/Node was scum, to actually caring about my opinion: wut? i think he is asking what you think of those players as well as what you think of austin himself. | ||
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On October 06 2012 12:07 Coagulation wrote: anyone else see a scummy post above me? why because the post says absolutely nothing? yes i don't like it either. | ||
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On October 06 2012 12:18 DarthPunk wrote: LoL. People saying nothing/ sheeping cases. Welcome to half the players in this game. Care to provide a reason for your town read on Kush? or are you just going to ignore me? yes i will. i have very good reason if you were paying attention i said my view hinges on the fact of my observation (redacted because of ongoing game). I dont know how much clearer i can be because of that so if you have patience i will be clear. Or you can continue to waste time and not hunt scum choice is your. also i dont really care what you think. i don't even care if i contradict myself i will say what i want if i think someone might be scum. | ||
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On October 06 2012 12:45 DarthPunk wrote: Wow, Way to promote an anti town atmosphere. I completely disagree with the fact that you do not have to give more reasoning than a 'gut read' which by definition is unclear. I get it. You do not give a fuck about anyone and will do what you want. Fine. But don;t expect people to actually listen to you if you won't do us the courtesy of being clear and transparent about stuff like Why you give one of the scummiest players in the game a town read. You know what? FoS: Iamperfection Clearly anti town attitude. Difficult and refusal to be transparent. lol | ||
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On October 06 2012 12:57 DarthPunk wrote: Iamperfection. Read this please. Digest it. and then realise that your unexplained town read on Kush is bullshit. as is getting all riled up over being asked to explain it. i think ive told you twice now i cant talk about because of an ongoing game. o nope this is the third time. also you shouldn't worry about kush even if I'm wrong he will slip. Don't understand why your getting so worked up about this. | ||
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On October 06 2012 11:48 mkfuba07 wrote: Argh, stayed up all night watching GSTL and then ended up sleeping most of the day away. A lot of people have been mentioned who I'm not really prepared to comment on right now. But my read on kush has been teetering back and forth over the course of the game, and the most recent interactions with DP have me leaning scummy for the reasons DP mentioned. I'll probably continue teetering regarding him, but that's where I stand atm. I'm heading out for a night at the bars now as well. I also have a party to attend a few hours away tomorrow, so my activity will likely be less than it was D2. I'll bring my laptop, but since it's a party, I'll probably be expected to socialize and will only be able to post infrequently and for a few hours later in the day. Finally, hi Hapa! I really hope you're actually town and Node was just being Node... I'll probably be destroyed if I have to face you as mafia. | ||
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On October 07 2012 04:59 kushm4sta wrote: @prome You are a null read for me but you make good cases. The only thing I sheeped you on was risk because you made a good case and he was already looking scummy to me, I thought iamp perfect might be scum but I looked at his filter and I changed my mind. what made you change your mind? Also now that my victory is complete in the gsl mini mafia i can reveal why i can reveal more why i think kush is town. Or to put in better terms why we dont have to worry about kush. So basically we were scum together and kush slipped again as mafia ( for anyone keeping count this is probably about his 15th slip or so) and then he went back to our qt and said "fucked this up royally... i learned as scum sometimes the best most is to pretend you are afk " so i believe his large amount of activity in this game tells me he is town. now some of you are probably thinking "but iamperfection now that you have said this he is just going to keep up his activity level" first of all don't question the perfect one. second of all thats what so brilliant about my lax attitude towards kush if he is scum he will slip. Period. its a fact. for hapas eyes only + Show Spoiler + nub caught you in two posts rofl lololololoololololololol. give me high five in thread everyone will think this staged anyways but ill know and that is all that matters. If you are not hapa and reading this how dare you i will never trust you again. | ||
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On October 08 2012 02:21 Promethelax wrote: hey, open question to anyone who is town. Look at the day posts, look at the kill flavours. What do you notice? After you figure it out we should talk about this. Seriously. open question to Kush: why are you trying now when yo never have before? What happened to make you make cases? are you talking about the dead and killed difference? | ||
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On October 02 2012 12:21 BlackMamba24 wrote: Day 1 Vote Count Shady Sands (7): kingjames01 (2): keirathi, kushm4sta (1): VisceraEyes (1): Talismania, Mementoss (0): austinmcc (3): kreb, mkfuba07, BloodyC0bbler risk.nuke (1): Sharrant Node (7): Marvellosity, VisceraEyes, austinmcc, kushm4sta, Z-Boson, iamperfection, BroodKingEXE, The following players have not voted: AdmiralAardvark, SlOosh, Shady Sands, Friendly reminder to use the Voting Thread to have your vote counted. It's a little under 1 hour till deadline. Time for some speculation. As we know are good friend hapa is about to flip scum. Which of course means node was scum. Now we know people can have irl reasons for replacing but judging by the last post of node im more inclined to believe it was something more of a rage quit. I think this was caused by him seeing mafia members being involved with the sudden wagon that happened on day 1. I got a sense of frustration and the fact that he quit despite being in arguably a good position after the marv flip i think their may have been some infighting within the mafia that caused him to get fed up. I think their is probably another scum on the node wagon and it brings me back to ViceraEyes On October 04 2012 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote: Node is almost certainly not the scum. There was a very real possibility that he would have been lynched and annul was right, a bus in that situation would have been pretty suboptimal. Marv is definitely the scums. Whoever he never mentions in the game I'd probably have a hard look at. Otherwise I haven't reread the game (as I said I would :<) so I'm crippled until I do. BC what do you think of Mattchew? I stated earlier that i thought it was bad reasoning to suspect that a marv flip would mean that node isn't scum> I also think VE of all people should know this. From my observations of marvs play through games he states the truth a lot as both scum and town. Their is really no differences i can see between tone and i have seen him bus before. I think Ve used this bad reasoning to try and get the attention of his scum buddy. VE has not been exhausting like he said he was going to be. VE has not been as active as i know he can be. VE will be the person i will be pushing to lynch during the next cycle if i'm alive. also ve can you please explain what you meant with this post. On October 06 2012 01:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Obligatory night-post. Twilight thoughts imminent. I took this to mean that you were going to post before the end of the night some big post. You did not. Did i read this post wrong? | ||
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On October 09 2012 05:01 BroodKingEXE wrote: EBWOP: Never mind about the second question I see why. i dont see why? | ||
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On October 06 2012 11:06 Hapahauli wrote: And I'm off for the night. But PLEASE take a look at my comments tomorrow on risk if I'm not alive! Peace. is there a reason people want to lynch the person the scum wanted to push? I think risk has said some stupid stuff but i am 100% against him being the top candidate for a lynch. | ||
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On October 09 2012 08:48 VisceraEyes wrote: Interesting choice of words - I think Kreb is a fine player. I just think his case is bad because it mostly revolves around marvellosity...a crafty, very skilled scum player that we will NOT be WIFOMing today. you believed that marv was crafty yet you said node was town? On October 04 2012 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote: Node is almost certainly not the scum. There was a very real possibility that he would have been lynched and annul was right, a bus in that situation would have been pretty suboptimal. Marv is definitely the scums. Whoever he never mentions in the game I'd probably have a hard look at. Otherwise I haven't reread the game (as I said I would :<) so I'm crippled until I do. BC what do you think of Mattchew? So you understand marv is crafty but believe it was out of the realm for marv to be on a wagon for node? | ||
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On October 09 2012 15:02 VisceraEyes wrote: And again guys - I apologize for the AFKness. Ninight. Hey you i have said that you are scum respond to it please. Especially to the part where you said node was probably town based on marvs flip. Also Keirathi when you get a chance if you could provide a read on me it would be greatly appreciated since you are so good at reading me. | ||
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On October 09 2012 22:49 risk.nuke wrote: I wrote that as I was eating breakfast. I got home just now. But what the hell are you sitting around waiting for me for? rofl why the fuck would write time to work on thread if you didn't have time to work on thread. | ||
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On October 10 2012 00:03 VisceraEyes wrote: I'd really be interested to hear what BC and Mattchew and risk.nuke have to say about kush. hey you i just want to check if my posts are invisible to you. Kush brings up a good point abut the role block stuff but your actions in this game still hav eme concerned. Once again why did you think that marvs flip had anything to do with nodes alignment? Plus why aren't you suspicious of me at all i have been yelling ve for a while now and you havent even responded to me. If you are town what do you think of me pushing you? | ||
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On October 10 2012 00:22 VisceraEyes wrote: Aren't both of the players you're asking about dead? Why does it matter? If you have some kind of reason to suspect me then tell me about it now, while I'm here. I'm digging through the thread already trying to get Kush lynched. If it's coherent and you believe in it then you can sum it up for me. Until then, suffice to say that I realize I don't look great because of my activity, but honestly I think I've played a much more town game since I've come back. As for why I don't suspect you.... .....do you want me to suspect you? Why would you ask that? Nothing has jumped out at me as overtly scummy in your play, but I haven't read thoroughly, as I've said. I can certainly go back and take a look if you like, but right now I'm trying to lynch kush. are you fucking serious. wtf do the palyers being dead have to do with anything. I am questioning your thought process why did you think node was town. How the fuck did me the perfect one this relative new comer figure out that marvs flip said nothing about node. Yet you a seasoned vet did not. | ||
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On October 10 2012 03:59 VisceraEyes wrote: This is the post. This post here. I read Kush filter three times looking for THIS POST. It's the post where he accidentally tells us he's scum. Note his incredulity. Why would that conclusion be so surprising to Kush unless he already knew annul was town? He is saying that annul would definitely live the night on the supposition that scum would NEVER kill him. But...why? And he doesn't even factor in TOWN kp as a possibility. It all betrays a scum mindset guys. i disagree. Annul was getting shit on by several people including yourself. I would have been also surprised to see a nk on annul by mafia. Several people were discussing to have him as a likely lynch candidate. i can see a town kush making this statement because it was logical to think that annul would not be killed by mafia. It didnt make sense for mafia and we know that it is not what happened since prom told us what happened. | ||
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On October 10 2012 09:48 kushm4sta wrote: So what the fuck does a coroner do in a game where roles are revealed upon death? dump your reads if your town. | ||
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did i ask you? i want the specific role kush. | ||
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On October 10 2012 14:43 ShiaoPi wrote: @zboson: iamp is just flying under the radar just as he did last game. Its scummy behaviour but it does.not stand out from the rest of the town right now. VEs claim is believable, while there is the possibilty of.a frame I think it to be rather slim. I don't like that matt gets yet another freeride but nobody seems to be willing to vote with me (understandable ofc with the claim) so yeah lets lynch kush! ##unvote ##vote: kush rofl yeah im not standing out. The guy that has been yelling that kush has been town. The guy who now has accused visceraeyes and coagulation at times of being scum and now they are likely town. The guy that said you were full of shit from your very first post. The guy that attacked hapa as soon as he got in the thread and ultimately fliped scum. the guy that said marvs flip said nothing about node. ya you know who has been flying under the radar you shaopi. The same guy that whined at the end of his last game. cried it wasn't my fault i lost it was the towns activity and yet was part of the problem. So dont come in here and accuse me for flying the radar. read the thread and come in with something for real against me if you think im fucking scum read this thread i dont want meta make a real case because i already any meta argument against me is wrong in this game so when you come in with weak crap like that it makes me think your scum. | ||
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still most of my points still stand. 1.Shaopi comes in says im acting like i did when i was scum. (Which is totally irrelevant anyways since they had a very inactive town there was no reason for me to say anthing i didnt have to in that game) Also im not acting that way. 2. Wtf is he afraid of am i scum or am i not scum shaopi why not just say it or make a proper case. 3. He hasent been active while complaining about activity in post game of gsl blaming that for the reason for town loss. | ||
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On October 10 2012 15:09 ShiaoPi wrote: lol whats with the aggressiveness? boson asked a question I replied.and you go into butthurt mode? whatever suits yourself because your not making any sense i should stand out to you if your town. | ||
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ve checked him and he returned town. read the thread. | ||
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On October 10 2012 15:25 Z-BosoN wrote: Oh, right, missed that. I don't get wtf is up with the overreaction though. Getting defensive? what overreaction. | ||
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On October 10 2012 15:26 VisceraEyes wrote: iamp, you've got this thing about not being mentioned by people. It's a town trait and thus I have no reason to look into you closer. And it's an effing bold move if you're scum, which I haven't seen you play scum much but it's bolder than most newish players are willing to venture. Just chillax dude - if Shiao is scum we'll find out soon enough. What's your take on Mementoss' claim? According to the OP we have a Private Investigator (me) a yet-to-be-confirmed "Detective" and Mementoss' claim of a watcher type role in (I think) "Medical Examiner". My role functions like a cop/rolecop double whammy. That begs the questions "What does the Detective do?" and "Why the piss does a role like Medical Examiner function like a watcher?". ya im a bad person to ask about setup speculation i have no clue. i see no reason not to believe memen's claim though. | ||
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On October 11 2012 01:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote: eh? You just don't use a rb, then have a scum member claim being hit by it. It adds an air of "confirmation" to a fakeclaim. As for alot to invest? Its day 4 and they just have had 3 red checks on them in a row. They would need something like this to try and do a comeback. they didnt know about the 3rd check. | ||
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On October 11 2012 10:36 Keirathi wrote: My gut tells me that kush is town, but my head tells me that its folly to go against a claimed red check. If he flips town, we'll just have to decide if VE was lying or kush was framed. I don't remember who it was saying that there was no way a framer would frame kush, or that a cop would actually check kush, I completely disagree. Kush is *EXACTLY* the kind of person you use cop checks on. A controversial player who is hard to get a solid read on for the most part. And, by that token, the kind of person you would want to frame as scum because a cop is likely to check them (depending, of course, on how scummy your teammates are and if you need to be framing them instead). i believe kush was the one that said it. | ||
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On October 11 2012 21:53 Mementoss wrote: also if all roles are in this game, like you imply and no one counter claims VE there is no reason to lynch him am I right? ive been thinking on this. I dont think we can assume that private investigator is a town role. I think a mafia role cop is a possibility. I agree with risk.nuke that coagulation is likely town so he is no longer a prime concern of mine. Shaopi however is my primary read. this post bugs the hell out of me. On October 10 2012 14:43 ShiaoPi wrote: @zboson: iamp is just flying under the radar just as he did last game. Its scummy behaviour but it does.not stand out from the rest of the town right now. VEs claim is believable, while there is the possibilty of.a frame I think it to be rather slim. I don't like that matt gets yet another freeride but nobody seems to be willing to vote with me (understandable ofc with the claim) so yeah lets lynch kush! ##unvote ##vote: kush The last part almost sets himself up for the current situation. He acknowledges the fact that a frame is possible yet gives not much of a read on kush. In fact looking through his filter he is extremely wish washy on kush the entire game. Most of the other players have been able to give a more defined read on kush one way or the other. notice how he says the frame is slim not that kush is likely scum. Also he shows apathy. Basically with the last line he explains he wants to vote for someone else but cant because of the claim. so he is giving up all responsibility for this vote due to the claim. His activity has been severally lacking and like i said about it before he blamed it for his loss in his last game. Now im no activity fiend myself but a 3 page filter at this point is really bad. Combine this with the fact he complained about activity as town his last game makes me read him as scum. | ||
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On October 11 2012 22:53 Mementoss wrote: I think VE should be checking a confirmed townie (aka dead) tonight if he is allowed to check the sanity possibility. Iamp makes a good point about the role, but the only thing that irks me is no one counter claimed being roleblocked. Unless scum randomly decided not to use it night 1. ya that would have been silly for night 1 i think. and what do you mean about checking a confirmed townie how can he do that? | ||
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On October 11 2012 22:59 Kreb wrote: Dudedudedudedudedudedude. This totally had me thinking. Look at this: + Show Spoiler + 1. iamperfection 2. 3. BloodyC0bbler 4. 5. 6. ShiaoPi 7. 8. Mattchew 9. risk.nuke 10. Coagulation 11. Z-BosoN 12. 13. Keirathi 14. 15. VisceraEyes 16. 17. slOosh 18. 19. 20. Kreb 21. Mementoss 22. 23. 24. 25. Set-up: And this: + Show Spoiler + Lucky Citizen Vigilante Concerned Citizen Enforcer Hitman Paramedic Private Investigator Medical Examiner Coroner Detective Godfather Paranoid Arsonist Scoreboard And look at VEs claim: Is it possible VE added the prefix Mafia to an existing role (could be both town or mafia)? Theres no Mafia prefix on any role BM ever mentioned. If so, thats a pretty telling slip. well he did say that his role is a combination of a role and regular cop right? | ||
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On October 12 2012 01:19 VisceraEyes wrote: It's like a GF for someone else guys, you saw Marv's flip, he CHOSE what role to show up as. That's why I'm thinking framer - because someone had to CHOOSE for him to show up as Mafia Coroner. The flip and the facts (my facts anyway :/) don't make any sense otherwise. ...................................................it has be framer from your point of view right? what else could it be... don't understand why YOU would be thinking framer it has to be. | ||
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i have issues. in other news ive been racking my brain about bc. he is third party. He claimed that he faked med protection in order to confuse the mafia and that this was the optimal way to play as a veteran. I disagree his lying puts us in the very situation we are in. We dont know what claims to believe and i dont think it is town mentality. On October 09 2012 06:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Because as a vet you don't claim it as losing your life early in the game. Why? It discourages mafia from shooting you again. If I say "hey my extra night life is gone" they will just shoot me again. Town is unlikely to believe it regardless as the vet role is one mafia love to blend in using. Why does bc give a shit about getting shot again? I didnt know the key to our town victory was for bc to survive. His lying only helps to add confusion and debate whether he is third party or not. I think the most likely conclusion is that bc is he was backed into a corner and claimed the only thing he could. he is 3rd party. | ||
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On October 12 2012 10:54 Coagulation wrote: no shit. to what i have issues or bc? or both. | ||
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I have a strong town read on both darthpunk and Z-boson they have been very open with their thought process and explaining why they think what they think they read as town to me. I really want to lynch shaopi he has done nothing to make me think he is town. ## Vote Shaopi | ||
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On October 13 2012 07:51 VisceraEyes wrote: What do you think of Kreb iamp? I couldn't help but notice that you didn't mention him at all. I haven't really paid attention to him. i can read his filter when i get back from dinner. Although i would like him to explain more on why we need to absolutely lynch you. I see the possibilities concerning you but i dont see how someone could be absolutely sure in regards to your alignment after all that has transpired. | ||
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On October 13 2012 10:24 Kreb wrote: O.o Wait, what? How did BCs lie cause MMToss or VE to claim? And what the shitstorm about it anyway, everyone is (supposedly) playing towards their wincon, Town by rightfully claiming Town, scum by making false claims. Shitstorm? Elaborate please. Ve claimed he was a veteran but first he claimed medic protection. He lied kill him. Its not optimal play no matter what he says it just leads to confusion. Why should i believe anything BloodyC0bbler say in relation to anything. And i didnt say it caused somebody to claim i said it just adds to confusion because his lie causes confusion with relation to other players claims. | ||
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On October 13 2012 10:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I lied about a medic prot. I have already addressed why and near universally its a normal play. Please tell me how not letting the mafia know they shot a vet and make them try and figure out how many protective roles are in the game is at all a bad play? The only people who should honestly care about the # of blues is mafia unless the # gets astronomically high that it just doesn't add up. Then town cares. you should have said nothing if you were town instead playing gambits it just adds to the confusion. Why should i believe you? it seems from my point of view you only cared about your survival. | ||
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On October 13 2012 10:35 Kreb wrote: I must say I dont really see the confusing part. He lied for a reason that to me makes sense from a town perspective. And no, you shouldnt believe him if you're sure hes 3rd party. But I cant discern how you are so sure about that. What if he actually IS veteran? Doesnt all make sense then? of course im not 100% sure stop playing stupid word games. I was under the impression that gambits like this were bad. Why would he need to lie if was town? just so the mafia wont shoot again. give me a break a town member should not worry about whether he lives or dies. | ||
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On October 13 2012 10:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote: My play may not have been the best this game, but I have put forth more overall contribution then most players still alive. Also given that near universally the biggest point of suspicion I was garnering for ages was "hes still alive" obviously the expectation of me is to perform at a far higher level then most players. As such would me wanting to survive to attempt to reach that expectation be far more intelligent then say, saying "im a vet, feel free to shoot me now" nope you shouldn't really give a shit about survivng. if you were town you should have been contributed the entire time you were not. and not playing silly gambits. I didnt know the key to a town victory was having you last as long as possible. Give me a break. | ||
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On October 13 2012 10:49 Kreb wrote: This is going into some kind of game-theory-land now: But if you believe yourself to be an above average player of your team, you SHOULD want to sac other members of your team before yourself if thats what it comes down to. So caring about his own survival doesnt have to be anti-town, it can be very much pro-town. that bullshit for a mafia game. Why would anyone believe a late game BloodyC0bbler if he has to sacrifice being a legitimate town player. He would have to lie and make himself look scummy in order to survive and then when it comes to late game the town will now suddenly believe him? Ya come on that doesn't apply here. | ||
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On October 13 2012 10:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Go read games like closed casket where I was town. I have made up complete roles as town to attempt an early game win given how 100% sure I was on my reads / to make mafia shoot me. Me playing in a way to fuck with mafia's heads is actually quite standard of my play given that It is how I play. can you provide a link im looking through your profile and i cant find that game. | ||
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Shaopi has still done nothing to make me think he is town. Shaopi recent indicate he is not trying to figure out if someone is scum or not. Instead he comes into the thread with herp derp obvious scum slip is obvious. He is not open to the possibilities and is not trying to figure out other players alignments. ##Unvote ## Vote Shaopi | ||
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On October 14 2012 07:32 Coagulation wrote: iamperfection the point of scum going after you despite you not being a threat of being lynched is because he doesnt have to worry about explaining he was wrong and looking anti town if you flip town and he can look like hes contributing without actually contributing. maybe but at least mattchew had the decency to say he didn't give a shit earlier. Shao pi is the real fake contributer. He has tried to not to stick out and his activity is a huge tell after he openly complained about activity in his last game. His non contributions have done nothing for us. | ||
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On October 14 2012 08:14 Z-BosoN wrote: DP is my top scumread, I've been trying to push him since forever, but no one seems to find him scummy, so =/ shaopi is voting for dp. | ||
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On October 14 2012 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote: Where the fuck are Mementoss and Kei? GOD FUCKING DAMNIT Would you like to lynch shao pi? | ||
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On October 14 2012 10:27 ShiaoPi wrote: Good morning.... I love getting wagoned to death for lack of activity. Let' s get this out first: I know that I am terribly inactive and stuff. Probably warrants the policy lynch pulled on me now. Sorry to disappoint you guys thiugh, I will flip town What makes all of you think that DP is town? please remember walls of tedt and activity are not exclusiveley towntraits. DP's flip flopping of opinions on kush, the slip with kp and lack of backbone when trying to push his reads is alarming, damning qnd most surely his scumplay. Sine I am still not at home, I cannot make a fullfledged case with quotes etc. to cement my read on him and concinve you (phone is terrible for typing anyway...) Please do me the favor of reading the discussions beyween him and ve as well aw his interactions with boson. Also give the cases which were made on him a second dread. I am pretty sure that he is scum why did you say i was acting like i did in gsl when i clearly was not? | ||
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On October 14 2012 10:43 Keirathi wrote: Where did the KP go? It had to go somewhere. If they had an ability they could trade KP for, then it would probably activate today. Although I guess it could be something like Delay too. I don't buy that mafia didn't send in kills or roleblock. what does that have to do with no lynch | ||
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On October 14 2012 10:53 Keirathi wrote: I'll put my vote on whoever I damn well please, thanks. I already said the people I would be eilling to vote for. I have 2 hours to make up my mind on if I want to change. can you explain why you think a no lynch was a good idea. | ||
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On October 14 2012 11:09 Keirathi wrote: The only reason anyone has ever thought that coroner could change a flip was because VE FUCKING SUGGESTED IT. In my experience, people only speculate about roles that they should have no fucking clue about when they actually have some information about said role. Coroner is in the game... it has to do something. | ||
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On October 14 2012 12:05 Kreb wrote: Ok, here we go. More recent reasonable arguments for Matt over Shiao. More players I consider trustable on the Matt side. ##Unvote VisceraEyes ##Vote Mattchew who are the players you consider more trustable? whatever the fuck that means | ||
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On October 15 2012 00:54 Kreb wrote: He doesnt seem like hes intending to lie. And him being the roleblocker would make sense because we've only got two claims. But night immune 3rd party + roleblocker when its not in the PM doesnt make sense either.... yes i don't understand what bc was talking about with the passive role blocks either. | ||
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On October 14 2012 15:57 Keirathi wrote: Totally! you don't believe your conspiracy theory anymore? | ||
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On October 15 2012 16:46 Kreb wrote: 9 left. 6/3 town/mafia. So mislynch next should mean town loses. Lets 1v1 VE? Im all in. ##Vote VisceraEyes If what sloosh suggested is correct then ve is almost certainly town. A "jailer" would and 2 kp would imply that VE cant be scum. I am not willing to bet the game on ve being scum. | ||
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On October 15 2012 22:16 Z-BosoN wrote: No, the mafia jailer can simply roleblock his scum partner as there would be no other blue roles to block. so they roleblocked scum ve themselves day 1. | ||
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On October 16 2012 00:05 Z-BosoN wrote: Yep. It's not as far-fetched as it may seem. We know for certain the roleblocker is mafia. VE's "it's going to be an eventful night", according to him, is why he got RB. I think that a very... weird way to claim, and could possibility be a justification for that. Anyways, activity is getting low, come on guys, we really need to be active now that we are in mylo. It seems that most people are just accepting a sloosh lynch, but that's far from the attitude we need. We still need a good theory on wtf is going on with the other night's nks. I don't buy that they shot both BC (again) and mattchew. They could have easily, easily shot mementoss and kei before, why wait until now? I disagree why would they waste a role block like that when they know there are tons of blues running around. Just for some elaborate plan to save VE as much as possible. Ve has been trying to figure out who is scum. ShaoPi despite his stay of execution has still not scum hunted at all. He is who i would like to lynch still. On October 14 2012 10:27 ShiaoPi wrote: Good morning.... I love getting wagoned to death for lack of activity. Let' s get this out first: I know that I am terribly inactive and stuff. Probably warrants the policy lynch pulled on me now. Sorry to disappoint you guys thiugh, I will flip town What makes all of you think that DP is town? please remember walls of tedt and activity are not exclusiveley towntraits. DP's flip flopping of opinions on kush, the slip with kp and lack of backbone when trying to push his reads is alarming, damning qnd most surely his scumplay. Sine I am still not at home, I cannot make a fullfledged case with quotes etc. to cement my read on him and concinve you (phone is terrible for typing anyway...) Please do me the favor of reading the discussions beyween him and ve as well aw his interactions with boson. Also give the cases which were made on him a second dread. I am pretty sure that he is scum I dont agree with this reasoning at all. DP flip flopping on kush is somewhat of mis characterization and it wouldn't be a scum tell anyways. Flip flopping is not a scum tell it shows signs of people trying to figure out if someone was scum or not. DP believing kush might be town had the same thinking i had towards the end for kush. Plus lack of backbone?? from what i rember dp was screaming at the top of his lungs when he got into a shit show with z-boson. Also ShiaoPI sates he cant make a proper case with quotes and what not but still hasn't delivered. I see no town motivation in any of the actions by ShiaoPi and at this point in the game i think he has the best chance of flipping scum. | ||
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How bout you two stop being assholes and stop speaking in riddles. | ||
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On October 16 2012 04:58 Kreb wrote: Rather not. Gotta make something happen. VE seems to be very reluctant suddenly though. ............................................................ | ||
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On October 16 2012 05:25 Kreb wrote: The irony that you're the one to drop the vote first :D Still, as expected. The mafia still waiting. Stop it start making sense. | ||
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On October 16 2012 07:15 Kreb wrote: Come on people. Surely I dont need to repeat myself. Look at all the points I presented on VE early on. Look at his scumhunting. Look at his pushing of Kush. Look at him jumping on every damn possibility excusing himself. Marvs reaction to the Node wagon, the RBs, the role+alignment framing, the check on MMT he got called out by BC for, the supposed sac KPs for changing Kushs flip. And if thats not enough, surely Im scum if I've pushed that all game. Vote me instead then. who is scum besides ve in your view? | ||
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On October 16 2012 07:29 Coagulation wrote: IF YOUR TOWN YOU SHOULDNT BE FORCING OTHERS TO PUZZLE TOGETHER YOUR READS FOR NO FUCKING REASON. this | ||
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On October 16 2012 08:12 Z-BosoN wrote: I'm concerned about iamperfection. His lack of reading regarding DP raised a flag. On the kush night he voted me saying: Which quickly turned into: He reached a conclusion based on an interchange me and DP had, and then decided that we are both town, without adding much. Now he shows signs that he didn't read into me/DP at all. If he didn't read, how did he change conclusions so fast? The same interchange he used to vote on me he used to claim me town, and that strikes me as weird. Want to elaborate? you idiots are probably both town you guys were arguing basically the same thing against each other. It might not look like that to you but well thats what it looked like to me. | ||
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On October 16 2012 09:17 Z-BosoN wrote: That's because you skimmed over it. You haven't read any of the cases against DP to claim that he's a target because of his kush flip-flop. How bout you read the fucking game now that we are in mylo hm? stfu if you read the game you would know that im town and your just wasting time. | ||
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On October 16 2012 09:24 Z-BosoN wrote: I'm inclined to think you are townie. A useless one at that. If it's that easy, go ahead and read VE's filter and "know that he's town", how bout that? Or is 20 pages just too much? Also, why are you voting kreb, hm? because as long as he speaks in riddles my vote will stay on him. But im pretty sure i know what he is going to claim and i think we have a good chance of winning if I'm right. | ||
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On October 16 2012 09:47 Z-BosoN wrote: Fair enough. And what of your town read on VE. I know you don't think it likely because of the day 1 rb thing. Leaving that sole fact aside, what do you think of his filter? i believe i was railing hard against ve for most of the game the claim and roleblocks is the only reason i think he is town. | ||
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On October 16 2012 09:39 DarthPunk wrote: How about you not talk in riddles and tell us? no | ||
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On October 16 2012 23:53 risk.nuke wrote: With VE claiming the only investigative role in the game it makes it likely his claim is legit. Not sure about kreb's claim. It's pretty meaningless. I'm leaning towards him fake-claiming. Still thinking about who I want to lynch the most. How is it meaningless sure a vet claim in normal game might be meaningless but we know that there has to be a lucky citizen in this game. | ||
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On October 17 2012 00:10 risk.nuke wrote: How do we know that? On September 25 2012 03:01 BlackMamba24 wrote: Players know the name of every role in the game but information on powers is withheld. Specific numbers of town/mafia/third-party are unknown. Role-list Lucky Citizen Vigilante Concerned Citizen Enforcer Hitman Paramedic Private Investigator Medical Examiner Coroner Detective Godfather Paranoid Arsonist plus bc's fake claim gives credence to the fact that luck citizen is a town role. | ||
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On October 17 2012 01:10 VisceraEyes wrote: Stop trying to think Coag. You'll pull something. Why did that post upset you? | ||
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On October 17 2012 03:35 VisceraEyes wrote: This game has gone full on derp mode. Shame. Why you think coag is wrong? | ||
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On October 17 2012 04:46 Coagulation wrote: any reason Risk.nuke isnt a candidate for lynch entire game? ? hapa/node pushed him but other than that no. | ||
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i have my reasons | ||
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On October 17 2012 07:20 risk.nuke wrote: share them. only if necessary. | ||
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trust the perfect one. | ||
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On October 17 2012 01:10 VisceraEyes wrote: Stop trying to think Coag. You'll pull something. He knows that coag is wasting time thinking about the paranoid arsonist because he knows that there is none on the mafia team because i am the Paranoid Arsonist and no you may not know how my role works because it will only help the mafia. | ||
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On October 17 2012 07:45 Coagulation wrote: lol kill him coag the time has come. | ||
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On October 17 2012 08:01 risk.nuke wrote: And even if your claim is true. You want to lynch Viscera based on your speculation of what that one-liner post ment? yes On October 06 2012 10:15 iamperfection wrote: I believe kush to be town his high activity and hes been somewhat pushing discussion. Despite his wifom mind bombs my gut tells me town. Coag is a prime concern of me. I dont like that acted like a cry baby when he was listed on someones scum list. Stuck out to me as weird. Especially in a large game like this why would a town player give a fuck that he was on someones list. My role deals with priming indviduals. I wont get into details but at one point in the game i had a prime on coagulation. I would use the word prime or primarly to show my targets. also at one point i had a prime on ve. On October 05 2012 10:30 iamperfection wrote: in other news i'm fairly certain that both austin and kush are town. Austin- Contributed a lot and i dont think he would be able to come with some of the cases he did as scum. I agree that marvs flip says nothing about node. Like i said before marv is crafty and nod still hasent done anything to make me think he is town. Austin just had the unfortunate circumstance of being in the wrong place at the wrong time and i dont believe the node case was a distraction for anything. Kush- In all of his posts i don't get a sense he has extra information. Also his larg amount activity makes me think he is town. So who do i think is scum well for now i would say the most likely. Node- this sob has done nothing to make me think he is town. Also the orginal case brought up against him is still valid despite marvs presence. VE- somebody mentioned this earlier He said he would be exhausting and he hasn't been. I played with ve town briefly once before and i wouldn't describe his play this game as that here. In that game he dominated the discussion when he was there and was by and far the town "leader" i would say. I think the case that tails Posted earlierr on Is valid and [b]VE[b/] has an activity tell that he cant shake. My gut tells me he would bee a good lynch. You may not know who my prime or primes are on now and i did not bread crumb my most recent moves. As you can guess being primed is not good and can lead to your death since i primed only people i thought might be scum. | ||
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On October 17 2012 08:21 DarthPunk wrote: So your a mad hatter with potentially multiple bombs. maybe | ||
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On October 17 2012 08:34 Z-BosoN wrote: lol this game Does you "priming" him give you any additional information? no | ||
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On October 17 2012 08:38 VisceraEyes wrote: No kills night before. 2 kills last night. Not hard town. whats your point? | ||
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On October 17 2012 08:48 VisceraEyes wrote: You don't have to be a tucking jerk about it Coag. your being a baby | ||
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On October 17 2012 09:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Because Im phone posting...From work. Its not going to happen. you work late. | ||
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On October 17 2012 09:04 Coagulation wrote: fuck THE FUCK FUCK iamperfection WHY NO COUNTER CLAIM ON VE ROLE CLAIM??? VisceraEyes WHY NO COUNTER CLAIM ON IAMP ROLE CLAIM???? FUCK.. his role might be a scum role. Its just a role checker maybe? | ||
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On October 17 2012 09:04 VisceraEyes wrote: No one cares anyway...everyone seems sure I'm scum so its really just something for you guys to laugh at..which you seem to be doing a fine job of entertaining yourselves anywayn.  no either you've given up or your scum. whats your theory if it is so obvious to you with the night kills tell me what happened. | ||
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On October 17 2012 09:09 Coagulation wrote: and the godfather is just for shits n giggles? maybe the detective is a town role? | ||
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On October 17 2012 09:16 VisceraEyes wrote: Maybe we're all telling the truth and scum luvin it. .............. maybe? then detective would be a scum role just a role checker maybe. | ||
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On October 17 2012 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote: Important guessing RB based on early flavor...but yeah that's weak. what? | ||
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On October 17 2012 09:23 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm guessing... not Important guessing. give me 2 names for scum. | ||
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On October 17 2012 13:07 Hapahauli wrote: How on earth did VE get lynched... fuck you | ||
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This rule doesn't apply to me and i will not give my thoughts on any of the players. for the mafia + Show Spoiler + confused are you? maybe i got those primes exactly where they need to be. Could kill me i guess and find out if your feeling lucky. However maybe thats what i want you to do. Maybe for me to kill you i had to reach some sort of condition. Could be maybe who knows. I think i may have even lost track of my primes there are so many of them after all maybe. Decisions Decisions would be such a shame if you were to lose after killing the cop like that. Guess you could roleblock me but it seems you only do that ever other night but also then again maybe that will set off the bomb. Think carefully mafia. | ||
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On October 18 2012 00:29 risk.nuke wrote: Hilarious how you think they will follow your orders. You understand nothing. really enlighten me with your understanding. | ||
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On October 18 2012 00:29 risk.nuke wrote: Hilarious how you think they will follow your orders. You understand nothing. maybe the mafia was doing a bus happy strategy hapa and you marv and node. maybe maybe | ||
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On October 18 2012 00:51 risk.nuke wrote: To get even the slightest chance of motivating them to post their thoughts you would have to set your own example first. Reading your post I couldn't decide if I should mock you or feel pity for you. This is how your post is interpreted. I want you to work and do these things however I'm to lazy to do them myself. Now do as I say. Your post have two major flaws. They don't trust you, not as a leader and they don't trust you're town. And still you expect them to do something that will benefit you. You can't just declare yourself leader and expect results. Your post come of as arrogant with nothing to back it up. Just another name on the internet think he's something special. you dont know how my role works. shhhhhhhhhhhh do as i say or go back to lurking. | ||
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On October 18 2012 06:15 Coagulation wrote: I think im confirmed town and will die probably | ||
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On October 18 2012 06:19 risk.nuke wrote: No, Please let it be me. what you think of darth punk and zbos guys that have had a lot of activity and now all of sudden seem to have disappeared today. | ||
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