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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
September 26 2012 00:35 GMT
#29
oh wow im playing a lot of games.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
September 30 2012 04:20 GMT
#82
On September 30 2012 13:16 Z-BosoN wrote:
Well this started off quicker than I expected.
Sup guys!

##Vote Shady Sands

that random?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
September 30 2012 04:21 GMT
#83
oh my bad i see now
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
September 30 2012 06:16 GMT
#118
On September 30 2012 13:59 ShiaoPi wrote:
Shady besides you with your /in post nobody on the list looks like an obvious troll/unreadable kind of guy. (besides grush on the replacement), so I do not think this whole "gambit" as you call it was necessary...
Spare me that kind of crap, you obviously wanted to troll around. you won't get thanks for nothing from me.
Still kind of angry here, I'll be out to grab lunch and cool off...

Hey i think your full of crap

Shadys actions made you angry enough to leave the computer just because shady
ALTernated With cap or typed in ALL CAPS. Come on

ya im not buying it and i think you just wanted to weigh in on the situation and then have an excuse to leave.

[/b]## Vote shiaoPI[/b]

Talk to me shiao i wish to know more.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
September 30 2012 06:22 GMT
#120
ebwop ## Vote shiaoPI
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
September 30 2012 12:38 GMT
#125
On September 30 2012 20:03 kushm4sta wrote:
I voted for shady because he called me a troll.
There is no one better to vote for atm. I might as well vote for someone who was mean to me and has a history of being mean to me.

Also I'm not a fan of his content.

.........grow up.

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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
September 30 2012 16:22 GMT
#162
On October 01 2012 01:17 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 01:15 Keirathi wrote:
On October 01 2012 01:12 kingjames01 wrote:
On October 01 2012 01:06 Keirathi wrote:
@KJ:

Can you tell me what is scummy about that post of mine you quoted? I mean, its one thing to say something is scummy, but you didn't give any reasoning.


At the time, within the context of the game, it just seemed contrived. I read it as a mafia who was trying to sound Town. I'm not saying that you're mafia, just that the post sounded that way.


Contrived? I have a shared history with Shady, and I wanted him to man up and play like I know that he's capable of, rather than like an ass.


There's no need to be defensive. I said that the post seemed contrived, not that it was.

Them why did you say it was contrived what was the point?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
September 30 2012 20:45 GMT
#176
On October 01 2012 04:58 risk.nuke wrote:
I'm thinking we kill kush. All in favor?

im in favor of lynching this guy. All in favor?

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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
September 30 2012 21:18 GMT
#184
On October 01 2012 06:15 slOosh wrote:
This is the most upsetting start to a game I've played. So I'm gonna lay some ground rules because people are playing in a way that they shirk responsibilities with their actions / words.

Biggest thing is stop saying "I wanna lynch player X what do you think?". There is no back up analysis, and it allows people to toss out names at random. You think someone is scum, back it up. Don't say "seems scummy maybe". It lets people sow seeds of suspicion and it makes mislynches more untraceable.


Shady's vote makes no sense as VE pointed out. In fact the whole thing doesn't make sense, including how he has already started making connective tells on Kush based on Z-Boson. But it seems just as explainable by a combination of poor play / leftover emotions from TL-LVII. I'd wait to see what he can produce (case wise or whatnot) since arguing whether acting like a troll to incite a mod warning isn't conclusive to determining alignment.

VE I don't see your issue with annul - or are you doing one of those reaction things because its leaning on the destructive side right now.

Thats why i would like to lynch the nuke guy. come in to thread and says he wants to lynch someone and leaves. So do you think he is scum like i do?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
September 30 2012 22:51 GMT
#189
On October 01 2012 07:43 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 06:18 iamperfection wrote:
On October 01 2012 06:15 slOosh wrote:
This is the most upsetting start to a game I've played. So I'm gonna lay some ground rules because people are playing in a way that they shirk responsibilities with their actions / words.

Biggest thing is stop saying "I wanna lynch player X what do you think?". There is no back up analysis, and it allows people to toss out names at random. You think someone is scum, back it up. Don't say "seems scummy maybe". It lets people sow seeds of suspicion and it makes mislynches more untraceable.


Shady's vote makes no sense as VE pointed out. In fact the whole thing doesn't make sense, including how he has already started making connective tells on Kush based on Z-Boson. But it seems just as explainable by a combination of poor play / leftover emotions from TL-LVII. I'd wait to see what he can produce (case wise or whatnot) since arguing whether acting like a troll to incite a mod warning isn't conclusive to determining alignment.

VE I don't see your issue with annul - or are you doing one of those reaction things because its leaning on the destructive side right now.

Thats why i would like to lynch the nuke guy. come in to thread and says he wants to lynch someone and leaves. So do you think he is scum like i do?

Well I've played with risk a couple times and he plays the more hands off approach as town. He takes his time with things and doesn't care what people think if he thinks he is right. At the same time he can be totally lazy so you have to wait for him to generate content then evaluate what he brings. Cf. PYP3, Poison Mini Mafia, Beauracracy and Dwarf Mini (town, scum town respective). So right now I'm null on him.

What is your take on kush? Easy mislynch or newbie scum?

i obsed his two last games(He rolled scum i both). i would say hes a bit ...unstable.

however he slips a lot and has many break downs in logic in his scum games that i saw. If he is scum he will slip eventually.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 01 2012 13:40 GMT
#290
On October 01 2012 13:17 Shady Sands wrote:
In response to trolling: I think people are drastically overblowing the following post:

Show nested quote +
The whole plan was either to troll hard and have some fun, or enjoy a serious, non-troll game of Mafia by inciting the mod to explicitly threaten a modkill for trolling and scare all the trolls into the straight and narrow.


How is that a lie, Marv? I explicitly said I was trolling even though on the very first page DrH told GRush to eff off for presumed trolliness. I knew this was going to get me a high chance of being modkilled. But given that there are people who are possibly smurfing for others here, there's still a risk that trolls are here, so I wanted to play that way to make sure no one dared to troll... or at least I could abuse tolerance for trolls to the same extent as others.

Now reading through filters

rofl

i think if you were town the top concern would be to find scum. get out scum.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 01 2012 15:30 GMT
#307
On October 02 2012 00:25 marvellosity wrote:
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On October 01 2012 23:51 risk.nuke wrote:
Marv, thoughts on Sharrant?


I'm fine with Sharrant atm. Yes he took ages to come in to the thread (but hello austin, 1 post, talis, Admiral A, 0 posts...) but having done so he gave his full thoughts on the hot topics, which is what I'd want from a latecomer.

I Saw that tails had a 15 page filter in mad men. Has he ever gone mia like this?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 02 2012 01:41 GMT
#479
for anyone having doubts on shady this is not the town shady i remember playing with. That shady was overly active and said almost any thought that came to his mind.

And even if you believe his irl excuse the ryder cup is over now so whats his excuse now?

The shady i remember would not abandon thread like this.

Vote shady 2012 for scum.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 02 2012 01:51 GMT
#486
Thanks for doing that austin. now i can do votes like that whenever i want.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 02 2012 02:06 GMT
#502
I would do node as well . I didn't see shady pushing any type of discussion like you pointed out before austin. Seems like a breakdown in logic from node.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 02 2012 02:07 GMT
#504
##Unvote
## vote node
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 02 2012 02:28 GMT
#527
is this deadline actually past my bedtime....... how disappointing.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 02 2012 02:40 GMT
#538
On October 02 2012 11:37 Sharrant wrote:
One point for you all to consider when you're thinking about scum in this push: Is not the basis of this push that Shady is likely to be modkilled?

Modkills do not flip. They can be using this to hide a red (supposing he is modkilled) but not to save (unless he posts and such before he is modkilled and saves himself).

he wouldn't be replaced?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 02 2012 03:01 GMT
#550
On October 02 2012 11:56 annul wrote:
and read node's filter

this was very easy. two posts. first post defends shady and calls out kush; second post retreats from this defense slightly and continues to argue against kush.

considering node's only two posts match what i have been arguing all along............. i like this guy.

the big question now is what it is about these two posts that caused 8 people to drop their pants and go all in on this guy. like, i read the posts... what is there exactly that people are seeing? this doesnt make sense. 8 votes on him so i have to assume with a normal mafia count that there are at least some towns on him.... why?

when did shady push anything? How could a town player reading the thread think shady is town because he pushed something after his trolling. what did shady push?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9643 Posts
October 02 2012 03:06 GMT
#555
On October 02 2012 12:03 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 12:01 iamperfection wrote:
On October 02 2012 11:56 annul wrote:
and read node's filter

this was very easy. two posts. first post defends shady and calls out kush; second post retreats from this defense slightly and continues to argue against kush.

considering node's only two posts match what i have been arguing all along............. i like this guy.

the big question now is what it is about these two posts that caused 8 people to drop their pants and go all in on this guy. like, i read the posts... what is there exactly that people are seeing? this doesnt make sense. 8 votes on him so i have to assume with a normal mafia count that there are at least some towns on him.... why?

when did shady push anything? How could a town player reading the thread think shady is town because he pushed something after his trolling. what did shady push?



....nowhere did i mention shady pushing anything?

node said it
On October 01 2012 17:40 Node wrote:
I don't think Shady Sands is scum -- at least, not given what we've seen so far. His "trolling" antics were silly, but they weren't scummy. If he were scum, I don't think he would've dropped the trolling pretext so quickly, and I certainly don't think he would be willing to reappear and start pushing targets.

Now, kush on the other hand has been talking a lot about absolutely nothing. Seeing as he considers his vote on Shady absolutely inconsequential so far ("My vote for Shady had nothing to do with a scumread of any sort"), he's sure spent an awful lot of time discussing it. Weirdly enough, he justifies his current vote by saying he doesn't have any scum reads, yet has also thrown a few FoS's around. So, we see his vote that doesn't matter (yet) on someone he doesn't care about, instead of actually pushing the rather perfunctory cases he's made so far, possibly just so he can look like he's actually contributing.

So, I'll actually put my vote where my mouth is. ##vote kushm4sta

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On October 01 2012 14:30 Z-BosoN wrote:
##FoS Coagulation
Shitty one-liners and refuses to explain anything. Either very arrogant or wants to pretend he is actually contributing.


Bolded for emphasis. This is pretty much exactly how Coagulation plays every game. If he's town, in a day or two he'll come up with a handful of proper scum reads to tunnel for the rest of the game, about half of which will be correct.

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