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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2012 16:34 GMT
#961
On October 04 2012 01:32 Coagulation wrote:
marv who are your scumbuddys?



who do you think they are?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2012 16:35 GMT
#962
On October 04 2012 01:34 Coagulation wrote:
cmon.. im sure theres at least one of them that is an arrogant twat that you would enjoy tossing under the buss for ol coag.. right?


i got arrogant twat totes covered
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 03 2012 16:45 GMT
#963
marv you played well and i thought you were town... now I see why you buddy'd up VE so hard
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2012 16:46 GMT
#964
i buddy up with VE regardless of alignment
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
BlackMamba24
Profile Joined August 2012
United States277 Posts
October 03 2012 16:57 GMT
#965
DarthPunk will be replacing talismania.
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
October 03 2012 17:27 GMT
#966
Been really busy
##Vote: Marv
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 03 2012 17:28 GMT
#967
okay I am heading to bed now, sharing this before I do so:

mkfuba07:
First thing that struck me was the timing of the early game movements fuba did with marv. This + Show Spoiler +
On October 02 2012 07:19 mkfuba07 wrote:
I'm back from class and should be here until the lynch.

Like marv I may have to reconsider KJ. If he's bound to give himself away with his actions pretty quickly, then I can wait it out. I never found his "spy slip" scummy, just his interaction with Kei where he seemed to be implying that Kei was scummy, only to follow it up by saying he didn't say that. It could be considered as an accusation and distancing, but it could just be statement of facts as he saw them.

My problem is that I'm not sure about voting for kush or shady. I'm not a fan of how either of them are playing, but I don't necessarily get scum from them. Shady is being incredibly strange with his absence, but that's not in keeping with either his town or scum metas. I didn't like Kush's policy lynch because "shady was mean to me", but that also doesn't tell me anything about his alignment.

I'm going to take a look at austin. I'll also probably think a bit about mementoss, just 'cause.

is awfully close to + Show Spoiler +
On October 02 2012 07:13 marvellosity wrote:
Your point on austin is way better though, BC There are a couple of things about austin:

- he gives way too much thought and time to setup speculation and shenannies and can go off on tangents.

So with that alone I wouldn't find him banging on about spy that relevant, except for two things (which you mention)

- the fact that it specifies pretty damn clearly in the OP that all available role names are known to us
- that's all he's talked about having been absent for a long time.

If you're gonna derp around talking about setup and spy lololol you'd imagine you'd at least fucking read the setup first. Gonna give his filter another look. Anyway I'm gonna unvote kj for now

##unvote


Only half an hour passes and fuba is here: + Show Spoiler +
On October 02 2012 07:46 mkfuba07 wrote:
What bothers me most about austin is what's already been said: he apologizes for his absence, and then follows it up by only mentioning the spy-slip. Is that really all there is to talk about right now? His first post of the game also bothers me.

Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 00:29 austinmcc wrote:
Man I missed a fun night.

On September 30 2012 20:03 kushm4sta wrote:
I voted for shady because he called me a troll.
There is no one better to vote for atm. I might as well vote for someone who was mean to me and has a history of being mean to me.

Also I'm not a fan of his content.

Maybe I need to read some past games of kush's, but this didn't seem as scummy to me as it does to others. Poor reason to vote, sure, but he could have just voted based on "wtf is shady doing/I don't buy this" and not looked odd. Don't see any reason to make himself this visible as scum with a sillyvote when a real explanation is easily at hand.

+ Show Spoiler +
I think we should lynch BM24...
On September 29 2012 10:37 BlackMamba24 wrote:
game will start with a 24 hr night 0 by the way


You'd think that since it was such a "fun night" he would have a lot to comment on, but for over 24 hours all he mentions is how something kush has said isn't as scummy as some people apparently find it. After that he gets trapped in spy-slip land, when that issue can be resolved by reading the OP. He's posted a lot (comparatively) and yet has said little except that he didn't find kush too scummy hours ago.

Not sure if scummy or just busy+confused...



While his vote comes later at around 8:30 timestamp, keep this in mind for the bigger picture.

Now to his voting behaviour closer to lynch

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 02 2012 12:33 mkfuba07 wrote:
##Unvote

Austin's posts since returning have made me throw that vote out the window.

As for Node's posting frequency, I don't see that as much different than his behavior in DN mafia... Does he normally contribute more? As for his content, I see the slight "lie" but I can see no reason to intentionally "lie" like that as scum. What would he gain?

Of the two on the block right now, I'd rather vote for Shady. As I said before, I'm not naturally inclined to vote for him D1, but I don't want to vote for someone who I haven't seen anything scummy from. While I didn't see his excuse for trolling as terribly scummy, and I believe his absence could be explained somehow, the fact that he hasn't done it or actively participated in any way since his last post makes me want him gone.

##Vote Shady Sands


He now is content with a shady lynch before switching it up again after half an hour + Show Spoiler +
On October 02 2012 13:05 mkfuba07 wrote:
Ugh, this is driving me crazy. I'm not a huge fan of any of the possibilities...

I'm going to change my vote again. If we can get a better replacement for Shady I think keeping him in is going to be better than keeping Node in. I got completely screwed in DN Mafia because it was down to Node, myself, another pretty inactive player, and scum marv, and there was no discussion. I don't want to be in that situation again.

Not sure if this will do anything, but:

##Unvote
##Vote Node



Now why the hell does he bank on a modkill (that like in 99% of the cases does not come) and tries to lynch node again? Feels a lot like confusing town and disrupting us in the crucial timeperiod around lynch.

After the lynch he gets asked about an update on Node and he gives out this: + Show Spoiler +
On October 03 2012 06:25 mkfuba07 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 04:30 austinmcc wrote:
mkfuba, what is your read on Node? How do you view annul's actions before the lynch?
I'm still feeling really stupid for not being able to understand what's so scummy about Node's defense of Shady. There were plenty of good players voting for Node, and as town OR scum I don't see them voting for someone for stupid reasons. Despite what you've said before, I have been reading the thread. My reading comprehension being as crappy as it is, I can't pinpoint what makes his defense scummy. Did scum Node gain something from lying in his defense of Shady? Or was it just that he appeared to not be reading the thread, and is trying to participate with a minimum of effort/gaining some town-cred for defending town-Shady? Or something else entirely that I haven't considered because I'm bad at this game?

...(checking through filters)...

...And now, having more closely checked the the timestamps, which I incorrectly read last time, Node's jumped up quite a bit in scumminess. When I looked the first time, I missed the fact that the two posts (shady's last post where he actually made a read at all, and Node's defense) were on different days. I thought Node's happened within hours of Shady's FoS on kush, so I didn't really see it as too absurd for him to say that Shady had been pushing targets. I think I now understand why the defense was scummy (and I feel like a dumbass for not being able to read). Shady did nothing to warrant defending him, and the fact that Node defended him, with evidence that was the opposite of the truth, is strange. The fact that Node seemed to have reasons to find Shady town when the evidence he provides is contrived makes me think that he had another reason to believe Shady to be town that he didn't want to mention. Thus, Node seems scummy.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this feels right to me.


Basically you can sum it up as "I dunno, he seems scummy" It's a great wall of fluff besides the timestamp remark. Keeps pushing node and throws annul into the mix as scum as well for being against the node lynch. Now after the nightphase resolves and marv is as good as confirmed scum through his reactions he goes after VE. While I can understand it (having made suspicions on VE as well) it feels quite sudden. No mentions of VE earlier and no more mentioning of Node. He also occasionally calls mementoss out (which is pretty easy to do anyway).

Summarizing:
I think there is a decent chance for fuba to flip scum, reasoning: fuba was more or less following marv during day 1 play, continued to try to push for Node but as soon as marv gets outed he switches onto VE with no more mentioning of Node, whom he previously had targeted quite extensively.
What happened to your Node read fuba?



On another note, BKE, what have you been doing all game long? Who is your highest read besides the no-brainer vote on marv?
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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
October 03 2012 19:12 GMT
#968
Node and Boson. For now. Ive found Z's ad on VE to have questionable logic, and still aren't buying his drop on Shady so quickly.
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 03 2012 19:42 GMT
#969
That is the single most amusing outing of a scum I have seen since A RNG shot toad a few games ago. Shitty that you were punished for bad play Marv, but well, if it makes you feel any worse.... I survived your shot. Thank you magical man who saved my life, as I didn't want to die again before day 2.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 03 2012 19:47 GMT
#970
On October 04 2012 04:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
That is the single most amusing outing of a scum I have seen since A RNG shot toad a few games ago. Shitty that you were punished for bad play Marv, but well, if it makes you feel any worse.... I survived your shot. Thank you magical man who saved my life, as I didn't want to die again before day 2.


Why do you think marv shot you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 03 2012 19:48 GMT
#971
On October 04 2012 04:47 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 04:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
That is the single most amusing outing of a scum I have seen since A RNG shot toad a few games ago. Shitty that you were punished for bad play Marv, but well, if it makes you feel any worse.... I survived your shot. Thank you magical man who saved my life, as I didn't want to die again before day 2.


Why do you think marv shot you?


Mementoss this thread's lack of your minty freshness makes me sad in the pants.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 03 2012 19:53 GMT
#972
On October 04 2012 04:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 04:47 Mementoss wrote:
On October 04 2012 04:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
That is the single most amusing outing of a scum I have seen since A RNG shot toad a few games ago. Shitty that you were punished for bad play Marv, but well, if it makes you feel any worse.... I survived your shot. Thank you magical man who saved my life, as I didn't want to die again before day 2.


Why do you think marv shot you?


Mementoss this thread's lack of your minty freshness makes me sad in the pants.


I guess I will just have to freshen this thread up!!

No but srsly I should start finding the whole scum team. Help me out VE, who is the scum and who is not the scum.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 03 2012 19:53 GMT
#973
On October 04 2012 04:47 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 04:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
That is the single most amusing outing of a scum I have seen since A RNG shot toad a few games ago. Shitty that you were punished for bad play Marv, but well, if it makes you feel any worse.... I survived your shot. Thank you magical man who saved my life, as I didn't want to die again before day 2.


Why do you think marv shot you?


I find it highly unlikely a town vig shot me over any of the other players in the game tbh. Given that I was shot and survived I assume it was the mafia and thus thanking the magical medic.

#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2012 19:54 GMT
#974
On October 04 2012 04:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
That is the single most amusing outing of a scum I have seen since A RNG shot toad a few games ago. Shitty that you were punished for bad play Marv, but well, if it makes you feel any worse.... I survived your shot. Thank you magical man who saved my life, as I didn't want to die again before day 2.


No, I was punished for *good* play. Useless, bad mechanic.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 03 2012 19:55 GMT
#975
On October 04 2012 04:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 04:47 Mementoss wrote:
On October 04 2012 04:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
That is the single most amusing outing of a scum I have seen since A RNG shot toad a few games ago. Shitty that you were punished for bad play Marv, but well, if it makes you feel any worse.... I survived your shot. Thank you magical man who saved my life, as I didn't want to die again before day 2.


Why do you think marv shot you?


I find it highly unlikely a town vig shot me over any of the other players in the game tbh. Given that I was shot and survived I assume it was the mafia and thus thanking the magical medic.



Yeah I can't see town shooting you, how do you know you were shot though? Did I miss something?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 03 2012 19:56 GMT
#976
Also, after looking through marv's filter and gazing at the people he was fine with lynching and those he defended / tried to suggest were bad options for lynches were

Risk.nuke
Kush
Sharrant.

Of these 3 I think it is highly likely that at least 1 is scum. Of the people he accused I think mattchew is most likely to flip red as well.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2012 19:56 GMT
#977
go away BC
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 03 2012 19:57 GMT
#978
On October 04 2012 04:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 04:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
That is the single most amusing outing of a scum I have seen since A RNG shot toad a few games ago. Shitty that you were punished for bad play Marv, but well, if it makes you feel any worse.... I survived your shot. Thank you magical man who saved my life, as I didn't want to die again before day 2.


No, I was punished for *good* play. Useless, bad mechanic.



nah it was obvious bad play yo. Why else would the town dt doctor check you

As for mementoss, how do I know I was shot? I was pm'd about it.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2012 19:58 GMT
#979
why would the town dt doctor check/protect the town asset/ unlynched mafia player with 100% record?

let me think
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 03 2012 19:58 GMT
#980
That would be a bad thing marv. You not killing me last night means I can actually look at your filter, then compare to all the nice green flips so far to get an idea of how your day 1 went. Closest thing to associative tells I can find atm and given that you are out in the open and caught you are going to just cluster the thread with wifom shite that even if you did post your entire scum team no one would believe it.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
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