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Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
October 02 2012 02:43 GMT
#541
EBWOP: the they in "they explicitly stated" meaning Dr. Helvetica and BioSC.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 02 2012 02:47 GMT
#542
I dont want to vote for someone who is getting replaced is what I said.
I know he's prob not getting modkilled.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 02 2012 02:51 GMT
#543
read marv's filter

1. defends kush
2. starts the node wagon rolling
3. heavy focus on meta

three things i dont like. but otherwise reads like town to me. perhaps this changes soon, dunno.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
October 02 2012 02:51 GMT
#544
I don't know. annul and Sharrant have got me second-guessing this.

I wish it wasn't Node who was the lynch target because it was just too easy and there isn't very much to connect him to anybody else.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 02 2012 02:52 GMT
#545
annul, who would you say is a better lynch>?
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
October 02 2012 02:53 GMT
#546
You're right, sorry. That was an amazing misreading from me. For some reason I thought someone had brought up him being modkilled, not replaced. So... yeah, if a replacement is more likely, that makes this whole thing seem a little scummier because there's now stronger motivation for red players (supposing of course that Shady is red).
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 02 2012 02:56 GMT
#547
and read node's filter

this was very easy. two posts. first post defends shady and calls out kush; second post retreats from this defense slightly and continues to argue against kush.

considering node's only two posts match what i have been arguing all along............. i like this guy.

the big question now is what it is about these two posts that caused 8 people to drop their pants and go all in on this guy. like, i read the posts... what is there exactly that people are seeing? this doesnt make sense. 8 votes on him so i have to assume with a normal mafia count that there are at least some towns on him.... why?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 02 2012 02:57 GMT
#548
when does day 1 end
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
October 02 2012 02:57 GMT
#549
On October 02 2012 11:53 Sharrant wrote:
You're right, sorry. That was an amazing misreading from me. For some reason I thought someone had brought up him being modkilled, not replaced. So... yeah, if a replacement is more likely, that makes this whole thing seem a little scummier because there's now stronger motivation for red players (supposing of course that Shady is red).


I mentioned modkill earlier so you might be thinking about that post. He hasn't voted so I thought that's why he was going to be removed from the game.

On October 02 2012 11:00 kingjames01 wrote:
What if we switch targets and Shady Sands casts a last minute vote to avoid the modkill?


Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
October 02 2012 03:01 GMT
#550
On October 02 2012 11:56 annul wrote:
and read node's filter

this was very easy. two posts. first post defends shady and calls out kush; second post retreats from this defense slightly and continues to argue against kush.

considering node's only two posts match what i have been arguing all along............. i like this guy.

the big question now is what it is about these two posts that caused 8 people to drop their pants and go all in on this guy. like, i read the posts... what is there exactly that people are seeing? this doesnt make sense. 8 votes on him so i have to assume with a normal mafia count that there are at least some towns on him.... why?

when did shady push anything? How could a town player reading the thread think shady is town because he pushed something after his trolling. what did shady push?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 02 2012 03:02 GMT
#551
Personally I'm voting for him because he's made little contribution and disappeared. While I agree with his post, it just seems like he posted it to make it seem like he's contributing.
Also, I can't find a good lynch target, so I'm viewing this mostly as a policy lynch.
KJ still seems pretty damn scummy to me, but like BC pointed out, that's meta-consistent. (Right now in Day 1 I'm putting a lot of faith on what people are saying regarding meta. For example, I would rather lynch coag due to his shit posting, but apparently it's just the way he plays)
So for me it was either keep it on KJ or change it to Node. Since KJ is posting a lot more I've decided to give him the benefit of the doubt and go for someone who has disappeared.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 02 2012 03:03 GMT
#552
On October 02 2012 12:01 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 11:56 annul wrote:
and read node's filter

this was very easy. two posts. first post defends shady and calls out kush; second post retreats from this defense slightly and continues to argue against kush.

considering node's only two posts match what i have been arguing all along............. i like this guy.

the big question now is what it is about these two posts that caused 8 people to drop their pants and go all in on this guy. like, i read the posts... what is there exactly that people are seeing? this doesnt make sense. 8 votes on him so i have to assume with a normal mafia count that there are at least some towns on him.... why?

when did shady push anything? How could a town player reading the thread think shady is town because he pushed something after his trolling. what did shady push?



....nowhere did i mention shady pushing anything?
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
October 02 2012 03:04 GMT
#553
Ah! Okay, good. The post did exist.

This is slightly odd, but I feel like Aardvark is mafia. It's a little random but the possibility of modkills got me thinking. I can think of maybe 2 or 3 times he was called out in this thread, but some of the people that have been notorious for calling out lurkers have completely skipped over him.

@Annul
I think the point Perfection was making is that Node mentioned both of those things. He's answering your question by asking you if you think it's possible for a townie to have done those things.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
October 02 2012 03:05 GMT
#554
On October 02 2012 12:03 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 12:01 iamperfection wrote:
On October 02 2012 11:56 annul wrote:
and read node's filter

this was very easy. two posts. first post defends shady and calls out kush; second post retreats from this defense slightly and continues to argue against kush.

considering node's only two posts match what i have been arguing all along............. i like this guy.

the big question now is what it is about these two posts that caused 8 people to drop their pants and go all in on this guy. like, i read the posts... what is there exactly that people are seeing? this doesnt make sense. 8 votes on him so i have to assume with a normal mafia count that there are at least some towns on him.... why?

when did shady push anything? How could a town player reading the thread think shady is town because he pushed something after his trolling. what did shady push?



....nowhere did i mention shady pushing anything?


I think he means Node.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
October 02 2012 03:06 GMT
#555
On October 02 2012 12:03 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 12:01 iamperfection wrote:
On October 02 2012 11:56 annul wrote:
and read node's filter

this was very easy. two posts. first post defends shady and calls out kush; second post retreats from this defense slightly and continues to argue against kush.

considering node's only two posts match what i have been arguing all along............. i like this guy.

the big question now is what it is about these two posts that caused 8 people to drop their pants and go all in on this guy. like, i read the posts... what is there exactly that people are seeing? this doesnt make sense. 8 votes on him so i have to assume with a normal mafia count that there are at least some towns on him.... why?

when did shady push anything? How could a town player reading the thread think shady is town because he pushed something after his trolling. what did shady push?



....nowhere did i mention shady pushing anything?

node said it
On October 01 2012 17:40 Node wrote:
I don't think Shady Sands is scum -- at least, not given what we've seen so far. His "trolling" antics were silly, but they weren't scummy. If he were scum, I don't think he would've dropped the trolling pretext so quickly, and I certainly don't think he would be willing to reappear and start pushing targets.

Now, kush on the other hand has been talking a lot about absolutely nothing. Seeing as he considers his vote on Shady absolutely inconsequential so far ("My vote for Shady had nothing to do with a scumread of any sort"), he's sure spent an awful lot of time discussing it. Weirdly enough, he justifies his current vote by saying he doesn't have any scum reads, yet has also thrown a few FoS's around. So, we see his vote that doesn't matter (yet) on someone he doesn't care about, instead of actually pushing the rather perfunctory cases he's made so far, possibly just so he can look like he's actually contributing.

So, I'll actually put my vote where my mouth is. ##vote kushm4sta

Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 14:30 Z-BosoN wrote:
##FoS Coagulation
Shitty one-liners and refuses to explain anything. Either very arrogant or wants to pretend he is actually contributing.


Bolded for emphasis. This is pretty much exactly how Coagulation plays every game. If he's town, in a day or two he'll come up with a handful of proper scum reads to tunnel for the rest of the game, about half of which will be correct.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
October 02 2012 03:06 GMT
#556
On October 02 2012 12:05 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 12:03 annul wrote:
On October 02 2012 12:01 iamperfection wrote:
On October 02 2012 11:56 annul wrote:
and read node's filter

this was very easy. two posts. first post defends shady and calls out kush; second post retreats from this defense slightly and continues to argue against kush.

considering node's only two posts match what i have been arguing all along............. i like this guy.

the big question now is what it is about these two posts that caused 8 people to drop their pants and go all in on this guy. like, i read the posts... what is there exactly that people are seeing? this doesnt make sense. 8 votes on him so i have to assume with a normal mafia count that there are at least some towns on him.... why?

when did shady push anything? How could a town player reading the thread think shady is town because he pushed something after his trolling. what did shady push?



....nowhere did i mention shady pushing anything?


I think he means Node.

yes
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 02 2012 03:07 GMT
#557
On October 02 2012 12:04 Sharrant wrote:
I think the point Perfection was making is that Node mentioned both of those things.


..... no he didn't?

if i am just 100% blind or something please quote where he said this, but i am re-reading his two posts a lot and i see nothing of this sort
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
October 02 2012 03:08 GMT
#558
On October 01 2012 17:40 Node wrote:
I don't think Shady Sands is scum -- at least, not given what we've seen so far. His "trolling" antics were silly, but they weren't scummy. If he were scum, I don't think he would've dropped the trolling pretext so quickly, and I certainly don't think he would be willing to reappear and start pushing targets.

Now, kush on the other hand has been talking a lot about absolutely nothing. Seeing as he considers his vote on Shady absolutely inconsequential so far ("My vote for Shady had nothing to do with a scumread of any sort"), he's sure spent an awful lot of time discussing it. Weirdly enough, he justifies his current vote by saying he doesn't have any scum reads, yet has also thrown a few FoS's around. So, we see his vote that doesn't matter (yet) on someone he doesn't care about, instead of actually pushing the rather perfunctory cases he's made so far, possibly just so he can look like he's actually contributing.

So, I'll actually put my vote where my mouth is. ##vote kushm4sta

Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 14:30 Z-BosoN wrote:
##FoS Coagulation
Shitty one-liners and refuses to explain anything. Either very arrogant or wants to pretend he is actually contributing.


Bolded for emphasis. This is pretty much exactly how Coagulation plays every game. If he's town, in a day or two he'll come up with a handful of proper scum reads to tunnel for the rest of the game, about half of which will be correct.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2012 03:10 GMT
#559
On October 02 2012 12:07 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 12:04 Sharrant wrote:
I think the point Perfection was making is that Node mentioned both of those things.


..... no he didn't?

if i am just 100% blind or something please quote where he said this, but i am re-reading his two posts a lot and i see nothing of this sort

On October 01 2012 17:40 Node wrote:
I don't think Shady Sands is scum -- at least, not given what we've seen so far. His "trolling" antics were silly, but they weren't scummy. If he were scum, I don't think he would've dropped the trolling pretext so quickly, and I certainly don't think he would be willing to reappear and start pushing targets.

Now, kush on the other hand has been talking a lot about absolutely nothing. Seeing as he considers his vote on Shady absolutely inconsequential so far ("My vote for Shady had nothing to do with a scumread of any sort"), he's sure spent an awful lot of time discussing it. Weirdly enough, he justifies his current vote by saying he doesn't have any scum reads, yet has also thrown a few FoS's around. So, we see his vote that doesn't matter (yet) on someone he doesn't care about, instead of actually pushing the rather perfunctory cases he's made so far, possibly just so he can look like he's actually contributing.

So, I'll actually put my vote where my mouth is. ##vote kushm4sta

Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 14:30 Z-BosoN wrote:
##FoS Coagulation
Shitty one-liners and refuses to explain anything. Either very arrogant or wants to pretend he is actually contributing.


Bolded for emphasis. This is pretty much exactly how Coagulation plays every game. If he's town, in a day or two he'll come up with a handful of proper scum reads to tunnel for the rest of the game, about half of which will be correct.

He "defends" shady, yes. But half his defense is that shady pushed reads, and half is that shady stopped trolling.
Fe fi fo fum.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 02 2012 03:10 GMT
#560
okay, i see now where you get that from.

On October 01 2012 17:40 Node wrote:
I don't think Shady Sands is scum -- at least, not given what we've seen so far. His "trolling" antics were silly, but they weren't scummy. If he were scum, I don't think he would've dropped the trolling pretext so quickly, and I certainly don't think he would be willing to reappear and start pushing targets.



i interpreted this part to be future-predictive, not past-indicative. like he is saying "i dont expect this to happen." note the difference in verb tense between the two clauses: "i don't think he would've dropped" (past tense) vs "i don't think he would be willing to reappear" (future tense)
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