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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 13 2012 19:31 GMT
#2901
also, if someone links me to a newbie game (VE you did this too WTF) for a meta read you have got to be kidding. I would say anyone under like 7 - 10 games should never be lynched on meta because there is so much room to improve and change styles
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 13 2012 19:34 GMT
#2902
im leaving, I wont be on around lynch time at all.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 13 2012 19:35 GMT
#2903
On October 14 2012 04:31 Mattchew wrote:
also, if someone links me to a newbie game (VE you did this too WTF) for a meta read you have got to be kidding. I would say anyone under like 7 - 10 games should never be lynched on meta because there is so much room to improve and change styles

Did you even read them? No, I thought not.

In GSL 2 (which just ended THIS WEE), I called out iamperfection (in obs qt) as soon as day 1 ended as scum, because his posting was almost exactly the same as his newbie scum game. Maybe he changed his playstyle in the last week, but I doubt it.

He has a very distinctive town meta compared to scum. Anyone who cared at all could see that.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 13 2012 20:24 GMT
#2904
On October 11 2012 00:36 Mattchew wrote:
Thanks BC for that I'll write a case before the end of the night




You're first case then arrives

On October 14 2012 03:43 Mattchew wrote:
I believe VE to be town and I believe VE's check to be real. I don't really know/care if thats where the mafia KP went, I think we lynched scum with kush.

If this is true, we should be looking at those who tried to push away from a kush vote. What townie (who have no information) would not lynch a claimed dt red vote? Especially after we had 2 straight scum lynches putting us ahead.

iamperfection is who we should be looking at to lynch.

Iamperfection tries to push the zboson lynch on the back of Darthpunk's waivering from the kushmasta lynch.

here is iamperf's posting in this time period

+ Show Spoiler +

On October 11 2012 10:29 iamperfection wrote:
anyone up for..... dare i say it..... some last minute shenanigans.

On October 11 2012 10:45 iamperfection wrote:
we would need 8 votes to do anything correct?

On October 11 2012 11:05 iamperfection wrote:
dp makes more sense than zboson and i believe kush is town. He panicked the last time he was under pressure of lynch as scum he did not do it here.

## Vote Z-Boson

On October 11 2012 11:17 iamperfection wrote:
alright bed time for me. If i remember right the deadline is unofficial so you have up to the night post to get votes in.



He tries to get a last hour vote switch, but doesn't provide any reasoning for doing so. His sole reason is DP's thoughts, which he doesn't even quote or comment on. His pushing of this switch does not have a sense of urgency or care to it. I believe he is doing this last minute switch idea just because he knows what kush will flip.

##vote iamperfection



So, given that it did not arrive when you said, you have done no real work since then and keep jumping in to appear helpful/active while doing nothing I am going to vote for you. You are consistently not around or helpful and in no way can I see you being town.

##vote mattchew
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Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 13 2012 20:37 GMT
#2905
To people voting Mattchew, whats your thoughts on Sloosh and Shiao? Arent they in they all largely in the same boat? If Im to drop VE (which I really dont like the thought of) for a vote on someone else, they all seem to fall into largely the same category of players playing less contributory/pro-town then they should be able to.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 13 2012 20:51 GMT
#2906
slOosh has, in completely arbitrary terms, "secondary" contributions in the form of his lynch preferences and comments on goings-on in the game.

Shiao doesn't comment deeper than the most recent pages, and must be called out specifically to comment on other things.

Mattchew is still strange to me, though I'm teetering on the edge with that guy. I still think there are scummier candidates in Kreb and ZBos.

I'm reading up on a couple of filters now and I'll comment further shortly.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 13 2012 20:55 GMT
#2907
On October 14 2012 04:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
VE I am back and after spending a great deal of time thinking on the events of last night and reading the posts since then I will admit that I most likely took your sub optimal play as a scumtell and most likely shouldnt.

I still find the situation around kush's flip fucked beyond belief but I am willing to give you time to prove yourself given the name you said Kush had, and thus it may make sense that he can hide his own flip.

As such ##unvote


Sorry to disappoint.

Not there yet.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
October 13 2012 22:17 GMT
#2908
I read mattchews case on me as misguided townie. the reason i wanted to not lynch kush is because i thought he was town. However i don't think a scum mattchew would come in here and try to get case on me its just seems pointless to me. I feel i have very little chance of getting lynched and i dont see the purpose of the scum team coming after me.

Shaopi has still done nothing to make me think he is town. Shaopi recent indicate he is not trying to figure out if someone is scum or not. Instead he comes into the thread with herp derp obvious scum slip is obvious. He is not open to the possibilities and is not trying to figure out other players alignments.

##Unvote
## Vote Shaopi
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 22:30 GMT
#2909
Yea I'll settle on ShiaoPi.
The reasoning for this is that mattchew has actually bothered show his face in here and make some townie-looking posts. Also, BC's voting of him makes me very suspicious, as his reasoning for voting mattchew is not convincing and could very well be applied to ShiaoPi, in terms of usefulness.
##Unvote
##Vote ShiaoPi
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 13 2012 22:32 GMT
#2910
iamperfection the point of scum going after you despite you not being a threat of being lynched is because he doesnt have to worry about explaining he was wrong and looking anti town if you flip town and he can look like hes contributing without actually contributing.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
October 13 2012 22:37 GMT
#2911
On October 14 2012 07:32 Coagulation wrote:
iamperfection the point of scum going after you despite you not being a threat of being lynched is because he doesnt have to worry about explaining he was wrong and looking anti town if you flip town and he can look like hes contributing without actually contributing.

maybe but at least mattchew had the decency to say he didn't give a shit earlier. Shao pi is the real fake contributer. He has tried to not to stick out and his activity is a huge tell after he openly complained about activity in his last game. His non contributions have done nothing for us.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 13 2012 22:49 GMT
#2912
While we're on the subject of people who aren't here looking for scum, where the piss is/has been DarthPunk?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 13 2012 23:06 GMT
#2913
Can we get a votecount? There like votes everywhere....
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 13 2012 23:07 GMT
#2914
Like, DP has been lobbying my innocence...yet a wagon has formed and dissipated on me without comment from him.

Of course, he could just be inactive...but what a strange time to go inactive.

He's another who went from being certain Kush was scum to vote-switching to "save" Kush dusk yesterday.

I'm reading the exchange between he and ZBos now, and his vehemency in defending my check is interesting reading too guys.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
BlackMamba24
Profile Joined August 2012
United States277 Posts
October 13 2012 23:14 GMT
#2915
Day 5 Vote Count

Mattchew (3): slOosh, risk.nuke, Coagulation, BloodyC0bbler

DarthPunk (1): ShiaoPi

VisceraEyes (2): Kreb, VisceraEyes, BloodyC0bbler, Keirathi

ShiaoPi (2): iamperfection, Mementoss, iamperfection

Kreb (2): VisceraEyes, Coagulation, VisceraEyes, slOosh

BloodyC0bbler (0): iamperfection, VisceraEyes

iamperfection (1): Mattchew
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 23:14 GMT
#2916
DP is my top scumread, I've been trying to push him since forever, but no one seems to find him scummy, so =/
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 13 2012 23:15 GMT
#2917
I didnt find anything strange about DP.
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 12 2012 09:34 DarthPunk wrote:
I believe that VE is a cop of some description. Claiming to trade one for one with Kush of all people is just silly. Especially after Scum lost Marv and Hapa consecutively. What you are suggesting is that after scum lost two members the rest of them decide that VisceraEyes known to be a good scum player should fake claim cop with a green check on kush.

I find that scenario INCREDIBLY unlikely. Sanity is certainly in question. AS is the possibility of a framer or something similar. But we should not be lynching VE right now.


I find it very interesting that Z - Boson has dropped his pressure of me. Despite what he 'foresaw' (despite thinking it was highly unlikely) in his case coming true.

I want to lynch Z - Boson. He clearly tried to entrap me with a green kush flip and his case relied upon this. Despite his vote for kush and stating kush was 75% red.

He also stopped the lynch of scum day one by throwing away his vote. Even though he says he wasnted neither to get lynched. What he was actually doing, and every thinking rational individual would know this, was lynching shady and saving scum.

His 'I thought neither was scum so voted for neither' Is silly as it was clear that his actions would cause a shady lynch. And save node.

What he actually did with his vote was: I prefer shady to be lynched rather than node.

That is Scummy. Combine it with trying to entrap me with clear foreknowledge of kush's flip Despite calling him red and voting for him.

he expressed doubt over kush;s alignment. And instead of attempting to lynch someone else like the others who doubted the claim. He used his doubt to set up a further mislynch

Z- Boson is scum and must be lynched.

Seems well motivated enough. At least nothing I'd vote on him for atm. ZB also came out as town.

But Im totally not liking the current situation with like 5 (?) ppl sitting on 1-2 votes. And to me Shiao, Matt and Sloosh all look kinda scummy but none of them like super scummy. We could be hitting everything if we randomly shoot into that trio... Scum, Town or 3rd party. The thing is, mafia will likely not allow a wagon to start on the likely 1-2 mafia in there unless town really gets together....
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
October 13 2012 23:16 GMT
#2918
On October 14 2012 08:14 Z-BosoN wrote:
DP is my top scumread, I've been trying to push him since forever, but no one seems to find him scummy, so =/

shaopi is voting for dp.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
BlackMamba24
Profile Joined August 2012
United States277 Posts
October 13 2012 23:18 GMT
#2919
Vote in the voting thread.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 23:23 GMT
#2920
On October 14 2012 08:16 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 08:14 Z-BosoN wrote:
DP is my top scumread, I've been trying to push him since forever, but no one seems to find him scummy, so =/

shaopi is voting for dp.

Yea that's making me uneasy on who to vote.
The biggest tagline of my voting on ShiaoPi is being useless with a fair possibility of being scum.
The biggest tagline of me wanting to vote DP is that I actually find him scum.
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