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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 13 2012 23:24 GMT
#2921
He accused ZBos of "attempting to entrap [DarthPunk] with clear foreknowledge of Kush's flip" when he himself was CERTAIN of Kush's guilt and was among the few voteswitching at the end of the day.

You don't find that the least bit ODD Kreb? It's even bolded in the quote you posted...
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 13 2012 23:33 GMT
#2922
On October 14 2012 08:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
He accused ZBos of "attempting to entrap [DarthPunk] with clear foreknowledge of Kush's flip" when he himself was CERTAIN of Kush's guilt and was among the few voteswitching at the end of the day.

You don't find that the least bit ODD Kreb? It's even bolded in the quote you posted...

A little bit odd, yea. And you mean DP was certain of Kush not being guildy right? But I really dont feel like lynching into people making one or two scummy looking moves when others have been scummy all game (you actively scummy, the three others I mentioned passively scummy by just not really doing shit). Well, Im not completely against a DP lynch, but its a shot in the dark imo and he is at best like my 3rd-5th most favored target.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 13 2012 23:38 GMT
#2923
No, I mean certain of his guilt.
On October 10 2012 08:41 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 08:39 kushm4sta wrote:
dp this is important: if I flip town are you bad?


You aren't flipping town kush.


On October 10 2012 08:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 08:42 kushm4sta wrote:
obviously I'm not flipping town apparently so you don't have to worry about entering this agreement with me dp.
if I flip town you are bad and I'm better than you ok?


I know what you are trying to do. I did it in LVII at MYLO/LYLO. It's not going to work so die quietly plz.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 13 2012 23:40 GMT
#2924
Hey I am back. If you read my post you would know that I got back at around midnight last night. I was too tired to post anything and went to sleep. I just got on the PC and it is now 10:30am.

So the reason for my absence. is RL commitments and then sleep.

I am back now and going to post some stuff.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 13 2012 23:41 GMT
#2925
Followed up with

On October 11 2012 12:19 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 12:17 kushm4sta wrote:
How is this 1 for 1 someone please explain to me?
In what circumstance can his claim be proven to be fake?


He is risking getting lynched for your mislynch. Why would he take that risk when he could probably pushed a mislynch without taking that risk. You are right in that it is WIFOM however. and that should be acknowledged.


Literally calling the lynch a "mislynch" and voteswitching off him. Yeah man, reads change...but he was defending my check and everything, followed up with this?

I think your blinders are on Kreb, I want someone's opinion who doesn't want me dead. No offense, of course.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 13 2012 23:42 GMT
#2926
DP explain how you went from being certain Kush was scum to being certain he was town in spite of a redcheck on him that you believed to be true please.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 13 2012 23:43 GMT
#2927
On October 14 2012 08:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
No, I mean certain of his guilt.
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 08:41 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 10 2012 08:39 kushm4sta wrote:
dp this is important: if I flip town are you bad?


You aren't flipping town kush.


Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 08:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 10 2012 08:42 kushm4sta wrote:
obviously I'm not flipping town apparently so you don't have to worry about entering this agreement with me dp.
if I flip town you are bad and I'm better than you ok?


I know what you are trying to do. I did it in LVII at MYLO/LYLO. It's not going to work so die quietly plz.


Yep. I was. I found him scummy. And then you had a red check against him. So double scummy. But then the shit with Z-Boson happened and that, combined with Kush's behaviour as the lynch approached caused me to alter my view. I don't know about you. But I am always willing to alter my perspective with new or more clear information.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 13 2012 23:43 GMT
#2928
I misread that post - he's talking TO Kush regarding speculation that I'm scum.

But he was onboard the "Kush is townie" train dusk yesterday, this is documented.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 13 2012 23:45 GMT
#2929
On October 14 2012 08:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Followed up with

Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 12:19 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 11 2012 12:17 kushm4sta wrote:
How is this 1 for 1 someone please explain to me?
In what circumstance can his claim be proven to be fake?


He is risking getting lynched for your mislynch. Why would he take that risk when he could probably pushed a mislynch without taking that risk. You are right in that it is WIFOM however. and that should be acknowledged.


Literally calling the lynch a "mislynch" and voteswitching off him. Yeah man, reads change...but he was defending my check and everything, followed up with this?

I think your blinders are on Kreb, I want someone's opinion who doesn't want me dead. No offense, of course.


Also. I still defended your check after he flipped green. Because I could not fathom a player with your reputation fake claiming cop to potentially trade one for one with kush. I didn't see the point. I still don't.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 13 2012 23:47 GMT
#2930
On October 14 2012 08:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
I misread that post - he's talking TO Kush regarding speculation that I'm scum.

But he was onboard the "Kush is townie" train dusk yesterday, this is documented.


Yep. So were others. ZB's entire case against me relied on Kush being town. Even though he later stated kush was 75% red.
He used the possibility of kush being town to try and lynch me. I wanted to not lynch someone I thought was town in the end.

This is all not scummy. In fact it is pro town.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 13 2012 23:49 GMT
#2931
On October 14 2012 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 08:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
I misread that post - he's talking TO Kush regarding speculation that I'm scum.

But he was onboard the "Kush is townie" train dusk yesterday, this is documented.


Yep. So were others. ZB's entire case against me relied on Kush being town. Even though he later stated kush was 75% red.
He used the possibility of kush being town to try and lynch me. I wanted to not lynch someone I thought was town in the end.

This is all not scummy. In fact it is pro town.

Bullshit, btw.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 13 2012 23:49 GMT
#2932
VE. How do you come to terms with the fact Z-boson wanted to lynch me because I didn't think Kush was town and for tunnelling kush. Despite the fact Z-Boson said kush was 75% red, despite still voting for kush and before kush just happened to flip green?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 13 2012 23:50 GMT
#2933
On October 14 2012 08:49 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 14 2012 08:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
I misread that post - he's talking TO Kush regarding speculation that I'm scum.

But he was onboard the "Kush is townie" train dusk yesterday, this is documented.


Yep. So were others. ZB's entire case against me relied on Kush being town. Even though he later stated kush was 75% red.
He used the possibility of kush being town to try and lynch me. I wanted to not lynch someone I thought was town in the end.

This is all not scummy. In fact it is pro town.

Bullshit, btw.


Not bullshit. Use your words please.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 13 2012 23:53 GMT
#2934
Guys it's important that I received "Mafia Coroner" back as my check. Think about it. If Kush was framed, why would scum not sub in some other, less telling role? Like, another Enforcer or something? Coroner hadn't flipped yet. Still hasn't...so why would scum "frame" Kush as "Coroner"?

No townie has claimed Coroner - and I would think that any town Coroner would have claimed such in order to avoid a mislynch...maybe. I'm not sure about that. But that leads me to believe that it is, in fact, a scum role. So why give town that information? In a closed setup? When we don't know what roles are what? Why give us time to prepare for such shenannies?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 13 2012 23:55 GMT
#2935
I don't like any of you who were saying you thought the way Kush was acting was townie. I disagree entirely, and as such cannot relate with any of your suspicions surrounding it. You're all equally scummy to me for that.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 13 2012 23:59 GMT
#2936
To paraphrase your case.

Not scum hunting. Tunnelling kush as an excuse to avoid scumhunting. That all falls apart if kush is red.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 14 2012 00:06 GMT
#2937
On October 14 2012 08:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't like any of you who were saying you thought the way Kush was acting was townie. I disagree entirely, and as such cannot relate with any of your suspicions surrounding it. You're all equally scummy to me for that.


I have played or obs'd every kush game. I know his play better than you. He was not acting the same in face of a lynch. To be fair. He used his meta to WIFOM me so he could have changed it. And I don't see why town kush would WIFOM bomb me in order to make himself unreadable. But he looked pretty damn townie towards the end. And in coordination with ZB's case being unsound with a townie kush. I thought he was being mislynched and I would be set up off the back of it.

Turns out he flipped green

So either he was townie and framed. Scum and flip was hidden. or you lied.

I don't see why scum would form a last minute counter-wagon if any of these were true.


"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 14 2012 00:06 GMT
#2938
On October 14 2012 08:59 DarthPunk wrote:
To paraphrase your case.

Not scum hunting. Tunnelling kush as an excuse to avoid scumhunting. That all falls apart if kush is red.


So? It hasn't fallen apart yet, he flipped green didn't he? And you even had a townread on the guy before he flipped. So what about ZBos' case falls apart?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 14 2012 00:07 GMT
#2939
By the way. I feel like it is best for town if you die VE. Unless you find some way of verifying your alignment. All this setup speculation and suspicion on you is actually bad for town.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 14 2012 00:09 GMT
#2940
So vote for me. If that's honestly how you feel the plop a vote down on me and convince others it's the best course of action. The only reason I can see for you telling me that is to attempt to incite anger.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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