On October 13 2012 10:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not killing you because you're alive. I'm killing you because you're obviously third party and you're trying to kill town's cop rather than look for scum. Very anti-town of you. Very lynch-worthy.

Anyway, thanks for the theory lesson and everything - maybe my check WASN'T optimal. But like...I don't care. It's my check to do with what I will to help town win. You don't lynch every vig who shoots a townie do you? You don't lynch every medic who fails to protect someone?

My claim has made sense for days - you picked a pretty fucking opportune time to say "Whoa wait guys, WHOA. I just cracked this game wide open. You know all that stuff I said about VE being obviously town based on his actions and NOT on his claim? Well SCRAP all that because he checked MEMENTOSS instead of ME!"

Feel free to backtrack and get on Kreb BC, I'll join you. But as long as you insist that I'm scum, I'm going to insist that you don't give a fuck about finding scum. And I'm going to insist that you die.

You bread crumbed the possibility of you being insane/framer/role hider role existing even as you started pushing kush's lynch. Given that there was no reason at all in the setup thus far in the game to suggest a role could be insane, or framer/role flip hider existing you not being 100% sure on a kush lynch is pretty fucking retarded.

As for your claim making sense? IT DID UNTIL KUSH FLIPPED NOTHING REMOTELY CLOSE TO WHAT YOU CLAIMED HE WOULD FLIP.

You just said you don't care that you didn't play optimally. Why do you think you could afford that given your chance of being shot was as high as mine? How did checking someone else as likely to get shot or blocked help town win at all?

As for lynching a vig who shoots a town? God no he just proved he had a bullet. As for a medic who fails to protect someone? How would we know?

The situations are different. You are playing suboptimally, have only used fear mongering of setup as a defense of why you have to be a town dt as opposed to scum.

As for me not giving a shit about finding scum? I have analyzed many players over the days VE. You also know reads of players change based on how they play over time, and in a few short span of time can have a read on them reversed for shitty play.

Also, I believe Kreb is town. He has been playing very much for the best interests of the town this game so I see no need to lynch him. Build me a solid case and persuade me. You as town would know exactly why I doubt you and thus should be playing to change my mind.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 13 2012 02:09 GMT

#2743

I don't have the energy. Not even fucking SIX hours ago I was the only person in the fucking htead anbdn now I'm being accused of being scum BUYT THEN MUTHERFUCKIGN THIRD PARTY.

FUCK THIS GAME

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 13 2012 02:09 GMT

#2744

##Vote: VisceraEyes

iamperfection

United States9642 Posts

October 13 2012 02:09 GMT

#2745

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BloodyC0bbler

Canada7876 Posts

October 13 2012 02:21 GMT

#2746

Seriously VE? How is that even helping.

I am leaving my vote on you till I am back from work tommorrow early afternoon. By then I hope we both have distanced ourselves enough to not be as heated as we currently are.

Keirathi

United States4679 Posts

October 13 2012 03:17 GMT

#2747

I actually agree with BC on this point.

If VE was town role cop, his check makes no sense. For someone who keeps saying "I'm trying to hunt scum!", his check certainly doesn't show it. But his attitude and reaction to BC calling him out just doesn't FEEL townie.

There's just too many little "convenient" things that add up to VE being scum.

1) Red check on someone who flipped town
2) Blue check on MMToss, who shouldn't have even been checked
3) Through 4 nights, there have only been 2 roleblocks, on GUESS WHO. VE and MMToss
4) Neither VE nor MMToss were shot after their claims. Nor were either RB'd last night. Instead, BKE who had done nothing besides "be a vet with 0 thread presence" and the vig were killed, and then no one last night.

None of those things individually is enough to make VE scum. But together, I'm pretty convinced.

##Vote: VisceraEyes

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 13 2012 03:21 GMT

#2748

##Unvote

Okay enough.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 13 2012 03:23 GMT

#2749

Srs. Guys I'm a Private Investigator. No one has counterclaimed, think this through.

I'm not scum. And I DO want to win. Please don't lynch me.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 13 2012 03:24 GMT

#2750

Mercy. It wasn't me. I swear I've told you everything I know. If you disagree with me, fine. But please don't lynch me today.

Keirathi

United States4679 Posts

October 13 2012 03:28 GMT

#2751

On October 13 2012 12:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Srs. Guys I'm a Private Investigator. No one has counterclaimed, think this through.

I'm not scum. And I DO want to win. Please don't lynch me.

I actually thought lack of a counterclaim was enough to keep you alive.

Then someone pointed out that we don't even know that Private Investigator is a town role. I can certainly see the benefit of scum having a Role Cop. Ah, the joys of a closed setup?