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Z-BosoN
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: For the same reason I fucked Mattchew last game. You fucked up. You made the biggest slip in this entire game. One thats only going to be caught by a seasoned player. Simple. You are using role speculation as a reason to not check the only person in the game that A) is believed to be third party B) Confirmed not mafia. This simple check as much as you "dont want to remove me from the game" would have removed a potential third party thus not town, while confirming the existence of a framer or a mafia cover up role while CONFIRMING YOUR FUCKING ALIGNMENT. This is the best and most efficient use of the gd role you claimed while removing a believed anti town and confirming yourself. It then *gasp* confirms coag removing 3 players from the fucking pool of people to be analyzed, forcing mafia to shoot into a pool of players etc.... You take any bit of control they might be getting in thread and remove it. Instead you "checked" for your personal use, Dts don't check for themselves, they check for town. Unless you are scum, then you check to ensure the watcher was a real watcher and not bullshitting, or you check your scumbuddy and confirm his "claim" Why?? Because he's right or because he's wrong? | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:47 Z-BosoN wrote: Why?? Because he's right or because he's wrong? It outs him fully and completely regardless of his alignment. It also potentially outs a third party. How in any sane mind is it ok to not confirm a potential non town player while confirming not just yourself, but two other players in the process? You in 1 fell swoop remove 4 players from a pool of potential mafia and thus have a serious ground to scumhunt and leave the town in a Insanely superior position. There are 13 players alive by my count. Removing 4 of those from a pool of suspects? you have 9 players that could combine the remaining scum. Not just that based on the amount of shots on average per night, it looks like top kp is 2 atm by scum. IE of 3 remaining players from the situation I outlined, at least 1 would still be alive or two depending on the situation. It also allows everyone to begin analyzing on the only people in the game that matter as they would be the only remaining players that could be scum. Any player who gives a shit as town would at least attempt to prove them self not scum in some manner, while scum would be eventually fucked quite quickly. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
"He didn't check who I would have checked, ergo, scum." | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
If he realized this, as scum, he would have said exactly that, no? | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:54 VisceraEyes wrote: Or in other words: "He didn't check who I would have checked, ergo, scum." Welcome back. Also no, you didnt check to benefit town, ergo scum. You admitted it. Also you spent to much time on setup speculation rather then real scum hunting. Even now your play is not remotely town. Giving up because people are pushing at you? You would know that you put yourself in that situation with the kush flip. A town player would have done anything to prove himself instead of "ima do what I want and youll accept it" | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
You can't stop me from doing what I want. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
I'm just going to ignore the third party like I'm ignoring the incindiary Z guy! *concentrate* | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:56 Z-BosoN wrote: Then why didn't he just say he confirmed you as 3rd party? If he realized this, as scum, he would have said exactly that, no? He would have to know exactly which role third party was, does third party appear as a different role to dt checks, etc.... A third party role at this point in time is a complete unknown as no one knows what it will flip. Thus it is the only role that could clear him from all suspicion while clearing all of his current checks. Given that the best shot for said check was me, why would he not do it? Why would he try to only benefit himself instead of trying to benefit the entire town? He has no way to know that he won't die at night thus should be using his checks as efficiently as possible to benefit the town, yet he hasn't. | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
On October 13 2012 09:41 ShiaoPi wrote: okay just caught up with the thread. Looks like nobody eeems to care.that dp slipped...... Whats wrong with you guys? he blatantly fails to keep his story straight and you give him a freebie? dafuq what? He may appear townie to you but look at LVII it is quite similiar, while he did much better i think.he should be lynched. Wont be able to post much for the next 10~ hours but guye lynch the stupid slip and not the cop to confirm his alignment..... Wait. You caught up with the thread. And from all you read from VE/ZB/BC and others, you came to the conclusion that DPs possible-scum-slip was the biggest deal and the we should drop the current discussion and get down to work on this gem? Get real. Come on give us some comments on whats really happening. What about me? What of VE? Is BC right or full of shit? Enlighten us. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:06 BloodyC0bbler wrote: He would have to know exactly which role third party was, does third party appear as a different role to dt checks, etc.... A third party role at this point in time is a complete unknown as no one knows what it will flip. Thus it is the only role that could clear him from all suspicion while clearing all of his current checks. Given that the best shot for said check was me, why would he not do it? Why would he try to only benefit himself instead of trying to benefit the entire town? He has no way to know that he won't die at night thus should be using his checks as efficiently as possible to benefit the town, yet he hasn't. Why not just say something like serial killer? Regardless of what he'd said you would have gone after him calling him scum because you are actually town, no? | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
## Unvote ## Vote BloodyC0bbler | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:21 iamperfection wrote: .....BloodyC0bbler you accuse ve of not playing his role properly yet you yourself are the one that LIED causing the shit storm of what claims we should believe. Your lying showed you cared of one thing and one thing only your survival. You can die now 3rd party. We should of lynched you the second we found out about your lie it makes no sense from a town perspective. Your lying only pushed forward your interests of survival. ## Unvote ## Vote BloodyC0bbler O.o Wait, what? How did BCs lie cause MMToss or VE to claim? And what the shitstorm about it anyway, everyone is (supposedly) playing towards their wincon, Town by rightfully claiming Town, scum by making false claims. Shitstorm? Elaborate please. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:19 Z-BosoN wrote: Why not just say something like serial killer? Regardless of what he'd said you would have gone after him calling him scum because you are actually town, no? Most definetly, but I would have been killed and him confirmed. Along with two checks. He has outright said he is playing in his own self interests as opposed to that of the town, He has outright admitted he doesn't give two shits for the town and will do as he pleases. This is not a townie mentality. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On October 13 2012 08:46 Z-BosoN wrote: Oh wait!!! But see, had you actually read it, I stated in that very same post that MY read was a meta read, because I've seen shady on a BUNCH of games -- UNLIKE MATTCHEW!! "This is your only good point if true". Aww thanks, I'm flattered, you are so cute, that's all I've ever wanted. Except no. Annul was playing scummy, that's why he got vigged. BC is playing like hardcore 3rd party (slight offside of scum). Sloosh I've also noticed how he's very different from his LVII pseudo-town meta, and am still unsure of. It's not like I'm using that argument with tunnel vision. If you've seen mattchew fuck off and do jack shit then why haven't you said so? You are hesitant to call him scum because of his "pathetic filter"? Really? You are gonna take two fucking words and sum my entire case up on it? When only above you have even said that "This is your only good point if true"? Don't say it's laughably bad if you actually even admit that some points make sense. See what I mean by you being arrogant? So let me get this straight. Here's your little carefully plotted scumlist and how you are proceding to deal with them: me: Voted on annul. Then unvoted. Fuck his tradeoff with DarthPunk and the entirety of DP's arguments. He voted annul and then he unvoted lololol DP: He jumped on a crappy "scumslip" argument. Fuck his trade off with Z-BosoN and the entirety of ZB's arguments. He jumped on a crappy "scumslip" argument and looks like he knows what's up. lololol ShiaoPi: His name has FOUR appearances in your filter. FOUR. You haven't even commented on why you think he's scum or added jack shit to his case. You just nonchallantly added his name there. Kreb: Omg he wants to lynch me despite my extremely legit-looking cop claim lololol!! Mattchew: Has done shit this game. Fuck any other arguments, he's done jack shit lolol!! Actually nvm, he can't be that non-protown. ZB's case is laughably bad now, because all he says is that Mattchew has done jack shit! You look like you are passively concocting up some people and not doing any research whatsoever. It doesn't look like you are reading anybody's filter. It doesn't look like you are legitimately trying to scumhunt. In your 14 pages of filter I've read, there is no evidence of this. See, remember I was under the assumption you and mementoss were legit? Right now I'm playing under that assumption and shit and I'm having an incredible hard time giving that assumption any credibility. I'll keep it for today because I still think there are better lynch targets, but ffs, you haven't pushed SHIT!! The most you've done is: I want to lynch X because of Y. Where Y is a shit one-liner reason that shows no real effort. If I'm a scumread why aren't you reading my filter? If both me AND darth are your scumreads why don't you read our exchange? I mean, fuck, if I honestly thought two people who have like three pages arguing against each other are scum I would certainly CERTAINLY read it and draw conclusions. But no. You are just casually putting our names there as if drawing names from a hat. On shiaopi it's even worse. It's ridiculous. Control+F "Shiao" on his entire filter and see what you will find on his "lynch candidate". He's casually laying back and putting his reasoning behind toutestchaos, me, and like 3 other people who have made cases against shiao. This is fucking ridiculous. It's not like you are my prince in shining armor and I expect you to win the game and gallantly throw us roses as you ride into the sunset. Fuck that. You are doing a despicable job for any standards whatsoever, and that is what concerns me and why I'm bitching about. ok first of all, I never called shady town, you are really taking that post completely out of context. I was saying that no one in the thread voting shady had any actual reason to be voting him. please stop saying at any point i ever called him town because there is a HUGE difference. second, you are calling my answers to questions directly posed to me fluff and meaningless is bullshit and a misrepresentation of my posts. third, you can think my reads are crap, but atleast explain why that makes me scum and not just wrong. ok i am on a computer and gonna do a lot of reading and stop defending myself for a few posts | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:21 iamperfection wrote: .....BloodyC0bbler you accuse ve of not playing his role properly yet you yourself are the one that LIED causing the shit storm of what claims we should believe. Your lying showed you cared of one thing and one thing only your survival. You can die now 3rd party. We should of lynched you the second we found out about your lie it makes no sense from a town perspective. Your lying only pushed forward your interests of survival. ## Unvote ## Vote BloodyC0bbler I lied about a medic prot. I have already addressed why and near universally its a normal play. Please tell me how not letting the mafia know they shot a vet and make them try and figure out how many protective roles are in the game is at all a bad play? The only people who should honestly care about the # of blues is mafia unless the # gets astronomically high that it just doesn't add up. Then town cares. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:24 Kreb wrote: O.o Wait, what? How did BCs lie cause MMToss or VE to claim? And what the shitstorm about it anyway, everyone is (supposedly) playing towards their wincon, Town by rightfully claiming Town, scum by making false claims. Shitstorm? Elaborate please. Ve claimed he was a veteran but first he claimed medic protection. He lied kill him. Its not optimal play no matter what he says it just leads to confusion. Why should i believe anything BloodyC0bbler say in relation to anything. And i didnt say it caused somebody to claim i said it just adds to confusion because his lie causes confusion with relation to other players claims. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I lied about a medic prot. I have already addressed why and near universally its a normal play. Please tell me how not letting the mafia know they shot a vet and make them try and figure out how many protective roles are in the game is at all a bad play? The only people who should honestly care about the # of blues is mafia unless the # gets astronomically high that it just doesn't add up. Then town cares. you should have said nothing if you were town instead playing gambits it just adds to the confusion. Why should i believe you? it seems from my point of view you only cared about your survival. | ||
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