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On October 11 2012 18:36 Z-BosoN wrote:Wait, what??? Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 13:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
I mean...no. I don't think that would have been optimal. It's D1 and mislynches happen. To bus in that situation would have been retarded imo. That's why I wanted to lynch Node - because there was resistence to the wagon in the form of people sticking on Shady.
That's why I'm hung up on the Node switch - because Node COULD have been lynched - but people were all like "wtf dat wagon" when it's like...why dude? WHY?!? I call bullshit right there. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371260¤tpage=25#499You typed in ##vote node one minute after marv gave the first vote, being the second one to vote node. You wanted to lynch him waaay before there was any sort of information on the wagon. That's definitely not why you wanted to lynch node.
Thats actually a very good point. Its really about time we lynch him.
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*ahem*
Ou est les shitty pants?
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On October 11 2012 19:14 marvellosity wrote:
*ahem*
Ou est les shitty pants?
Keep doing the popcorn smiley if you want. Otherwise:
On September 25 2012 03:01 BlackMamba24 wrote:
Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
1. Posting after death.
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I had a dream that kush flipped orange.
Then I realized I was dreaming.
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Also screw u VE I had gotten myself town read on kush before you "claimed"
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Z-boson is funny
BC is SK
Mementoss's claim confirmed what actually happened. But he is a liar.
You can't think both dude.
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I think Zboson is town btw. Even though he is wrong he is putting in a lot of effort to analyse the situation, and get some discussion going before teh kush lynch instead of everyone ebing like lol vote.
VE has 3 options:
1) He fakeclaimed and is scum. Why would he do that for a 1 for 1 with kush, a player who has 100% chance of getting mislynched every game he plays in? But VE has done crazier shit. VE's claim timing was very weird as well, you think he woulda tried to get kush lynched all day before pulling out the claim or done it right before teh night was over.Instead it was a half ass push against kush then he claimed.
This question puts me off:
On October 10 2012 00:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also, Mementoss commented on your "retraction" of scum read on me kush - was that all bullshit or did you really have a change of heart? He has a town-read on you because of it, so think carefully about how you answer.
since VE has a red check at this point
2) VE is fucking insane.
3) kush was framed. Likely as if there was a DT he would probably check him.
4) VE wanted to show everyone pictures of his poopy pants
4 is the most likely, but has nothing to do with alignment. I'm leaning on 1 now, but not sure. Kush was going against VE pretty hard, but backed off.
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Night actions will have a lot of tell to them tonight
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See, if BC is sk and he's correct about the watcher role, then you should have seen him leave. Also, that wasn't my only point neways -.-
Let us see what the night has to offer. I strongly, strongly think either yours or VEs claim is null. Once I have more time Ill go through his filter.
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On October 11 2012 21:04 Z-BosoN wrote:
See, if BC is sk and he's correct about the watcher role, then you should have seen him leave. Also, that wasn't my only point neways -.-
Let us see what the night has to offer. I strongly, strongly think either yours or VEs claim is null. Once I have more time Ill go through his filter.
Your right that my meta doesn't match my town meta, it doesn't match my scum meta either, it matches my "oh shit im in 2 games at once, and this one has had decided lynches 3 days in a row (zzzzzz)" meta.
Well if you wanna think about it claim vs claim here are the facts:
VE:
Claims role block isnt counter claimed
Weird claim timing
Checks red is proven wrong
Mementoss:
Claims role block isnt counter claimed
weird claim timing
Situation explained, verified to be correct, proved BC lieing, BC admitted to lieing
Re-Read my exchange with BC after he claims to be shot and medic'd (the moment I found out he lied) and see if you still think my claim is invalid
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Theres strange things going on with these claims. There a seemingly massive amount of Blues in the game (does mafia have something else to balance the possible town advantage of plenty of blues then? if so, what?) while still being 4 unclaimed roles (hitman, coroner, detective, arsonist). Thats one 3rd party, but could be another blue among the rest.
Cant really put my finger on what it could be though. All claims seem somewhat valid, but that doesnt feel right either.
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The other thing I dont like about the claims is the almost complete lack of breadcrumbs. MMToss at least mentions it, the other two does not. Im not experienced enough to know how common they are, but shouldnt Blues try to breadcrumbs a lot more than this? We have little giving further strength to MMToss, BC or VE in terms of crumbs.
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On October 11 2012 21:25 Kreb wrote:
Theres strange things going on with these claims. There a seemingly massive amount of Blues in the game (does mafia have something else to balance the possible town advantage of plenty of blues then? if so, what?) while still being 4 unclaimed roles (hitman, coroner, detective, arsonist). Thats one 3rd party, but could be another blue among the rest.
Cant really put my finger on what it could be though. All claims seem somewhat valid, but that doesnt feel right either.
are you implying that you think every role on the role list is in this game?
I had no idea what a coroner was then i looked this up: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Coroner
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Players know the name of every role in the game but information on powers is withheld. Specific numbers of town/mafia/third-party are unknown.
Quite clear, no?
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And I wouldnt trust any names. Veteran was miller, something else was Veteran. Names mean nothing to me at this point.
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On October 11 2012 21:33 Kreb wrote:
The other thing I dont like about the claims is the almost complete lack of breadcrumbs. MMToss at least mentions it, the other two does not. Im not experienced enough to know how common they are, but shouldnt Blues try to breadcrumbs a lot more than this? We have little giving further strength to MMToss, BC or VE in terms of crumbs.
sorry if this had been mentioned but does anyone know how KJ died night 1? Was it a claimed shot or mafia shot.
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On October 11 2012 21:38 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 21:33 Kreb wrote:
The other thing I dont like about the claims is the almost complete lack of breadcrumbs. MMToss at least mentions it, the other two does not. Im not experienced enough to know how common they are, but shouldnt Blues try to breadcrumbs a lot more than this? We have little giving further strength to MMToss, BC or VE in terms of crumbs. sorry if this had been mentioned but does anyone know how KJ died night 1? Was it a claimed shot or mafia shot.
While there of course are other possibilities, seems almost 100% chance it was a mafia shot.
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Anyone got a meta read on BC/VE/MMtoss about previous usages of breadcrumbs as Blue roles?
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Trying to figure out the night kills:
Night 1:
Risen killed himself
Anull killed by town vig
KJ killed by ????
BC targetted by mafia KP
Austin shot by ????
Mafia KP min 1 max 3
Night 2:
Mkfuba killed himself
Austin killed by mafia KP (assumption because he was a claimed save by medic -> confirmed townie status)
ToutestChaos killed by ????
Mafia KP min 1 max 2
Night 3:
Prometheax killed by mafia KP (assumed because confirmed town vig)
Broodkingexe killed by ????
mafia kp min 1 max 2
My theory is that mafia KP is fixed at 2, and there was a hitman (mafia vig) on night 1. Or mafia KP was cut due to 2 lynches, and the extra KP is from SK. But that seems unlikely due to low amount of KP, 1 KP for mafia by night 2, would be very unlikely. Unless SK stopped shooting, or shots stacked. (SK -> 3rd party)
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On October 11 2012 21:41 Kreb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 21:38 Mementoss wrote:On October 11 2012 21:33 Kreb wrote:
The other thing I dont like about the claims is the almost complete lack of breadcrumbs. MMToss at least mentions it, the other two does not. Im not experienced enough to know how common they are, but shouldnt Blues try to breadcrumbs a lot more than this? We have little giving further strength to MMToss, BC or VE in terms of crumbs. sorry if this had been mentioned but does anyone know how KJ died night 1? Was it a claimed shot or mafia shot. While there of course are other possibilities, seems almost 100% chance it was a mafia shot.
why would mafia shoot him, he was a lynch candidate day 1 was he not? it seems like an awkward shot to me
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