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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 10 2012 04:27 GMT
#2021
I did. Your mannerisms this game feel like you're exclusively reacting to others' attempts to scumhunt - and the way you have had this pseudo-scumread on me for however long but never really made a case or really explicitly say you want to lynch me felt like you were scared to attract my attention. It's just felt newb-scum to me, no offense intended. Also I felt obligated when my scumread (Coag) returned green to check a scumread of the dead (annul).

To be fair though, it was between you and Z-Boson. I may or may not check ZBoson tonight, depending on your flip and the contributions of others between then and now. If I'm alive. Who knows what tomorrow will bring?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 10 2012 04:27 GMT
#2022
On October 10 2012 13:25 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 13:12 Z-BosoN wrote:
Because they exist. I've explained that in the same post you have quoted. Here, let me quote it for you:
I find it's legit. I find it odd that he would waste an investigation on kush, of all people

There you go see?
I think it's odd --> I raise the possibility of it existing.
I then make the remark that it's just more likely that he's straight up telling the truth.
I've also seen VE do crazy shit as scum, so I'm just leaving that there so people don't ignore every single case against him and go "omg omg VE is town!". I still have my suspicions, and I want to make that clear.

I don't see what you gloating about

Where did you ever say you wanted to lynch 3rd party over scum? Really?
That's when you said "Vote BC". You'd rather him die than actually try to find another scum. Are you so doubtful on your own ability to scumhunt?

Perhaps that was force of habit - all my giant cases tend to end with a call to lynch. Are you seriously trying to suggest that I was shutting down all other discussion?

I don't know where you are taking this from, but no. I'm suggesting your vote on BC is fucked up, and I can't fathom why you would vote for him.
I can't fathom even more why you would do this as mafia so I'm feeling a bit uneasy about you
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 10 2012 04:27 GMT
#2023
On October 10 2012 13:26 Z-BosoN wrote:
Now this is also quite interesting. Sloosh, see what I mean?
first off, kush is not playing as he was in his last scum game. He's a lot less WIFOMY and helpful in his posts. I don't know if he learned how to play properly when being attacked or not, but I see the possibility of him coming up as town.
Also, VE took in that idea way too fast. Also, his tone in his last post is much different than in his last posts. This seems calm and peaceful while everything else in his filter is snark and arrogant:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 13:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
@Kush

I hadn't considered the possibility that you could be framed. None of the roles really jumps out at me as framer - maybe that's what Coroner does. I don't know. I don't care. It came up red. We'll deal with the implications of any flip other than red if we come to it. If you're town think of this as your way of helping town figure out who's scum. I'm not lying, but I concede that there's a slim chance of you flipping town.

@Town
I didn't want to claim, I claimed because I didn't think given my activity that I could get a lynch on Kush without it and town is fixating on this BC thing which I feel is a bad idea. No offense BC, but the question of your alignment can wait until we're out of red to kill. That's my opinion anyway.

Personally I find it VERY unlikely that someone would frame kush over other people in this game. And yet, I think we have a fair possibility of kush coming up as town.
This line of thinking here will have to wait until kush dies, of course, but I have a weird feeling kush might pop up as town. Both kush's meta and VE's "serene" attitude towards the possibility of him being framed are fair indicators of this.
I could be wrong, of course. Let's wait some 25 hours.


Not Wifomy? Have you read the same game that I have? Let me get something for you.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 10 2012 04:28 GMT
#2024
On October 06 2012 01:35 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 01:08 ToutEstChaos wrote:
Actually, why are you asking him if you already know the answer AND think that doing so is something that scum would love? Why are you even thinking about scum loving or not loving things, or talking about how FoSes will excuse you from getting shot? Getting shot during an early night (sans roleclaim) is probably the highest honor you can claim as a townie.

IGMEOY, kushm4sta.


The whole Night Kill thing is part of his scum meta and he knows it. Furthermore. He he knows I know it. I caught him caught day one last game partially for an identical post. To be honest I feel that he is engaging me in a WIFOM BOMB really hardcore.


Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 00:27 kushm4sta wrote:
also ty kreb your suspicion saves me from nk


After kreb calls him not townie. He does something Which he KNOWS I know to be a particular tell for him from our previous game.

Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 00:53 kushm4sta wrote:
shh dont bring it up because then we will have to tell people about it


I call him out on it for this reason.
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 00:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 06 2012 00:27 kushm4sta wrote:
also ty kreb your suspicion saves me from nk

WOW. ##FoS Kush



Then WIFOM's at me. Stating that he wants me to lead a bandwagon for this scum tell of his. Even though He KNOWS I know it is a tell.
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 00:47 kushm4sta wrote:
please lead the bandwagon dp please



I mean this is mind fucking me like crazy right now. But why would town Kreb be dropping WIFOM bombs on me?

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 10 2012 04:30 GMT
#2025
I get the sense that scum z-boson knows that town isn't realizing something so he hints at it to get town points.
That happened back when he doubted the existence of 3 medics (explained by bc third party or vt)
It just happened again here.
z-boson:
Regarding the VE claim
Right now, I find it's legit. I find it odd that he would waste an investigation on kush, of all people, but I find it even harder to believe that someone would bother framing him. Someone also said there were no longer any miller roles (correct me if I'm wrong), so this makes it a ton more likely that kush is scum.
The only other possibility is that this is a baller play from VE bussing his scum friend, but that's just... dumb.

So he brings up 2 problems with VE's claim.
1 why the fuck would VE investigate me when there were way better people to investigate?
2 why would the framer frame me instead of any of the more suspicious townies?
I think there is some weird role thing going on that we are missing.

And why is the only other possibility scum VE bussing his scum friend? Why can't scum VE be lying about everything to kill a townie?
If there is another private investigator I THINK you claim, just because I doubt there would be 2.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
October 10 2012 04:31 GMT
#2026
On October 10 2012 13:26 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 13:22 iamperfection wrote:
kush what role are you. this is not a trick question just answer it.

He already claimed VT.

did i ask you?

i want the specific role kush.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 10 2012 04:31 GMT
#2027
On October 10 2012 13:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
I did. Your mannerisms this game feel like you're exclusively reacting to others' attempts to scumhunt - and the way you have had this pseudo-scumread on me for however long but never really made a case or really explicitly say you want to lynch me felt like you were scared to attract my attention. It's just felt newb-scum to me, no offense intended. Also I felt obligated when my scumread (Coag) returned green to check a scumread of the dead (annul).

To be fair though, it was between you and Z-Boson. I may or may not check ZBoson tonight, depending on your flip and the contributions of others between then and now. If I'm alive. Who knows what tomorrow will bring?

Telling you may or may not check me is a poor thing to say. Are you trying to get me framed and investigate someone else?
Also, take no heed from these "suspicions" of mine. They are thoughts I'm throwing around because I'm finding kush's meta very fucking weird, compared to his past two scum games.
Atm it's obviously best to take your claim as legit, want to make that very clear.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 10 2012 04:31 GMT
#2028
On October 10 2012 13:22 iamperfection wrote:
kush what role are you. this is not a trick question just answer it.

i am concerned citizen aka vanilla town
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 10 2012 04:32 GMT
#2029
@DP. THat feels like his general level of WIFOM.
Look at his reaction when he has not two, but a fuckton of votes, compared to the last game.
Totally different game.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 10 2012 04:33 GMT
#2030
Kush was already fucking suspicious. He was already the number one scum read of several players including 2 confirmed town.

He WIFOM'd me and shat up the thread.

Then comes back with a red check via a cop claim that no sane scum would make.

And people still think he could be town?

Yes he could have been framed. But there is no way to even know if that role is in the game.

Add the check to all the other stuff. I find it highly unlikely that he will flip town.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 10 2012 04:33 GMT
#2031
@ DP WHen the FUCK did i claim VT?? i never claimed vt
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 10 2012 04:35 GMT
#2032
Kush, so you agree with the problems I'm having with his choice of investigation.
Also, your latest point against me has the reverse effect of what you are suggesting. I doubted the existence of three medics, and guess what, there are in fact at least three medics. Also, scum don't know blue roles. I don't know what you are implying.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 10 2012 04:36 GMT
#2033
On October 10 2012 13:30 kushm4sta wrote:
I get the sense that scum z-boson knows that town isn't realizing something so he hints at it to get town points.
That happened back when he doubted the existence of 3 medics (explained by bc third party or vt)
It just happened again here.
z-boson:
Show nested quote +
Regarding the VE claim
Right now, I find it's legit. I find it odd that he would waste an investigation on kush, of all people, but I find it even harder to believe that someone would bother framing him. Someone also said there were no longer any miller roles (correct me if I'm wrong), so this makes it a ton more likely that kush is scum.
The only other possibility is that this is a baller play from VE bussing his scum friend, but that's just... dumb.

So he brings up 2 problems with VE's claim.
1 why the fuck would VE investigate me when there were way better people to investigate?
2 why would the framer frame me instead of any of the more suspicious townies?
I think there is some weird role thing going on that we are missing.

And why is the only other possibility scum VE bussing his scum friend? Why can't scum VE be lying about everything to kill a townie?
If there is another private investigator I THINK you claim, just because I doubt there would be 2.


Scum VE is not lying to lynch you because we make the assumption that he isn't terrible at this game and that trading one for one. Especially for you, is bad play.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 10 2012 04:36 GMT
#2034
On October 10 2012 07:51 kushm4sta wrote:
the fuck? I just logged on to see this garbage from VE. I'm vanilla town not mafia coroner.
The thing is it doesn't make sense that a mafia would give up their life just to lynch me. This is why I think it's possible someone framed me maybe.


Bolded for emph-ass-is
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 10 2012 04:37 GMT
#2035
On October 10 2012 13:35 Z-BosoN wrote:
Kush, so you agree with the problems I'm having with his choice of investigation.
Also, your latest point against me has the reverse effect of what you are suggesting. I doubted the existence of three medics, and guess what, there are in fact at least three medics. Also, scum don't know blue roles. I don't know what you are implying.

How are there 3 medics?? There are only 2
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 10 2012 04:37 GMT
#2036
On October 10 2012 13:33 kushm4sta wrote:
@ DP WHen the FUCK did i claim VT?? i never claimed vt



On October 10 2012 07:51 kushm4sta wrote:
the fuck? I just logged on to see this garbage from VE. I'm vanilla town not mafia coroner.
The thing is it doesn't make sense that a mafia would give up their life just to lynch me. This is why I think it's possible someone framed me maybe.


You are lying or bad. Burn him with fire.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 10 2012 04:38 GMT
#2037
EBWOP: ninja'd
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 10 2012 04:38 GMT
#2038
oh vt is vanilla town?? lol i thought it stood for vetern
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 10 2012 04:39 GMT
#2039
@dp no you are bad and you agreed to that when I flip town remember
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 10 2012 04:40 GMT
#2040
On October 10 2012 13:38 kushm4sta wrote:
oh vt is vanilla town?? lol i thought it stood for vetern


So you claimed Veteran? And then you claimed Vanilla Town?

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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