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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 12:23 GMT
#434
On September 19 2012 21:03 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar's entire shitty case is this:

"marv is better than this, therefore he is scum".

I have the case open in a separate tab to see if I need to respond to specific points, but I can find very little worth responding to.

Yes, my tone changed, I got a bit heated. What of it? If you want to go down that road, it's something I'm far more likely to do as town. WIFOMy? Sure, but Palmar's entire case is WIFOMy. Anyone go find me a single example of me 'losing the plot' as scum - you won't be able to find an instance, I wager. Or NMM3 where I was actually scum and Palmar called me out and I just flat out ignored him.


Again, you don't get to decide what makes you scummy or townie. I know that generally when I play scum I resort to calling cases/players bad because well, it's an easy way to brush aside the case itself and start a shitstorm instead.

On September 19 2012 21:03 marvellosity wrote:
On the other hand, as town I have been known to self-vote (Movie Mafia) or go into a 24-48 hour funk (Bureaucracy, when Foolish called me scum for no reason, and it knocked me sideways until I recovered and realised Foolish was scum).

"Did you think I wouldn't tell people what I thought about other people in the game? Should I just not call out my reads because they "mess with an already divided town"?"

Yeah except you gave very little reasoning for anything. You said austin is scum and provided one quote going "lol here's evidence" with no explanation of why the quote made him scum. You called Hiro scum with no reasoning, and ditto you laid a vote on me later with a one sentence explanation. That's pisspoor play, Palmar.


No it's not pisspoor play, it's what I do when I'm not actively building cases. I never actually need much reasoning behind finding scum or town, generally I just read one little thing and that gives it away.

Also stop using your own meta to defend yourself. I'm not using meta to build this case against you, it has nothing to do with what you've done in other games. It's what you're doing THIS game that I'm worried about.

On September 19 2012 21:03 marvellosity wrote:
I will be filtering this afternoon to see who I particularly want to lynch. I don't care if you/people thought I was weird for liking Hiro's Palmar point; to me it was a perspective that I hadn't thought of at all and so it was interesting. Additionally Hiro's points on Hapa's contradictions were strong. Listening to contributions from a day 1 scumread who was mainly a scumread for not contributing is not scummy behaviour. I'm not sure if it's enough from austin to make me not want to lynch him, but at the moment I'm leaning towards austin. He's been very absent through critical discussions when I know he could have been active, and that's scummy play.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 12:28 GMT
#436
Whatever
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 12:33 GMT
#438
I once made a video when I was town, so I have been known to do that. I also claimed third party as town once.

So if I do those things I'm confirmed town.

what the hell.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 12:43 GMT
#440
It's only relevant if you look at every part of the equation.

This is why most people shouldn't use meta. The problem here is that you're simply looking at one action, and assuming it's valid to point that out. I never point to my own meta as town or scum because I know I'm perfectly capable of altering it.

You seem to think that you getting angry should make me believe you're town, but since you're aware of it I consider it a null tell. In fact, you know I'm reasonable and good at this game, if you instead had opted for just laying out good cases and explanations of other people, instead of attempting to angry at me, I would've thought you're town.

I'm not applying meta, I'm applying what's logical to do. There's only two options that make sense from a townie point of view when presented with an accusation like mine. One is to think I'm scum and present a case towards that end, or the other is to think I'm town and wrong, and in that case raging at me doesn't make much sense, should rather just go do something useful.

I think you fucked up, and I think you've proven you're scum.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 14:48 GMT
#453
What about marv austinmcc? Why do you not want to lynch him?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 14:56 GMT
#455
On September 19 2012 23:53 marvellosity wrote:
because i'm not scum


LAL
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 15:15 GMT
#460
Get off my Hapa bro's case.

Wtf is this shit, prplhz is not scum look at his big post after he started caring.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 19:21 GMT
#552
I don't even understand this game anymore.

Here's the deal. prplhz isn't scum. There was a legit concern earlier that he might be but anyone that still thinks he's scum has their heads faaar up their asses.

mementoss is probably not scum.

marv and austinmcc both have a good chance of being scum, but I feel considerably better about marv. It's also very strange how hard it is to get any kind of a train rolling against marv. I've already explained why this guy is the one that needs to hang today.

Can we consolidate there, please?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 19:22 GMT
#553
also, looks like hiro and marv are both voting for austinmcc, which makes it less likely that he's scum at face value, although that's a very sketchy way to think about anything. Still, just confirms to me that it's not austin but marv we should be hanging tonight.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 19:28 GMT
#560
Quoting a post and stating it's saying nothing doesn't magically make it become nothing.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 19:28 GMT
#561
Why do you think he's town iamperf? I see literally no reason to think this is marv's town play.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 19:43 GMT
#569
Fuck it. I'm off for a bit.

I'll rather no-lynch than do a dumb lynch so see you guys later.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 19 2012 23:12 GMT
#740
What the hell happened with the claim...

Anyway dumb lynch. I'll post later.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 20 2012 10:06 GMT
#758
For the record, I don't think mementoss is scum. I agree with almost everything said in this post, aside from lynching me. But it's fine, I don't intend for this game to reach lylo.

On September 20 2012 05:46 prplhz wrote:
okay prplhz list of reads:

town:
iamperfection
blazing
zephirdd
hapa
mementoss
palmar

townie/null:
austinmcc
mkfuba07
bluelightz

scummy:
ange777
hiropro

scum:
marv

remember to lynch palmar at lylo

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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 20 2012 10:55 GMT
#761
Where is the pile of crap?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 20 2012 10:56 GMT
#762
Or are you just saying that because it's inconvenient for you that I actually agree with prplhz's reads?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 20 2012 17:29 GMT
#813
Mementoss is almost certainly town. If I do end up dead tonight you really, really need to take a critical look at the fact that prplhz and I agreed on reads. It's really fucking frustrating that you paint someone scum, then town proceeds to ignore you once you get shot.

Always look at everything said by the people night killed by mafia. Do so critically, but usually there is a reason the people who died, die.

I think marv needs to die tomorrow. If we have a vigilante, the safest targets are HiroPro and perhaps mkfuba07. Generally it's easier to shoot lurkers as they won't be missed. Hapahauli is confirmed town with no action so he should absolutely be protected tonight. However it's probably better that we assume there is a chance BlazingHand and I get protected because that might deter scum from shooting us.

it's very unfortunate prplhz messed up the claim but once he did it I suppose there wasn't anything to do but lynch him. We could've ended up with 2 confirmed townies. I was pretty sure they were both town, especially hapa, but really prplhz too.

The reason I didn't want to switch to austinmcc is that two of my strongest scumreads were already voting for him as I pointed out. Now there's obviously the chance that austin is an SK and I was just being a stubborn asshole, but with hiro and marv both trying to kill him, I saw very little reason to think he might flip scum.

mementoss's interactions with blazinghand during the first moments of the game seem very straightforward and matter of fact. there is no sense of panic as he breaks down the points Blazinhand raised against him. The main reason I think he's town are the two big posts he came up with after I posted the case on marv. In both of them he's genuinely looking at the situation as it is, instead of as he wants it to be.

His addition of mkfuba07 into the mix and the connections between marv and mkfuba is a very valuable addition to the thread, something I would not expect anyone that's scum to pick up on. It proves he's reading the thread with a lot of attention.

Regarding my own meta, marv is using it in the wrong way, obviously. The problem is marv seems to have a lot of time to post, so read everything said and done for it's content, not for who is yelling the loudest.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 20 2012 17:56 GMT
#816
I can only lynch one person at a time marv.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 20 2012 21:38 GMT
#896
I believe mementoss's claim and I think it's way too bold for an SK to do that on day 1.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 20 2012 21:42 GMT
#898
HiroPro.

Would you agree on lynching him?

I don't have the time to write up a case now, but because mostly of weak presence and strange things I've noticed about him.
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