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JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 21 2012 13:21 GMT
#677
Also we had weetee quit day one last game he was mafia.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 21 2012 13:49 GMT
#679
Cool, on a side note now I won't mix up regent and rethos anymore.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 21 2012 14:53 GMT
#684
So final assigment completed... Yeah the times stamps did it for me. I was mostly sure but the time stamps and Qt info sealed the deal. I can't quite get over his freak out but we still have plenty of time so we should continute to look at Regent, Killing and stutters as lurking mafia. Stutters is still not in the thread I might add, but regent killing have more evidence behind them.

Also Kush you seem extra annoyed, I would almost say you are over doing yourself. Kush is currently one of my largest active scum reads. His meta seems to be himself plus a bit extra, however as it was mentioned before we probably should focus more on the lurkers incase we lose a active town(we have so few of these or even posibilities for these). (note: kush was pushing on someone I see as an active town in the form of thrawn{also kush if you could answer my previous argument it would be good})



JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 21 2012 15:00 GMT
#686
Remedy... yeah
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 21 2012 15:01 GMT
#687
How long have I been doing that for? *checks filter* heh a while it seems...
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 21 2012 15:23 GMT
#692
On September 22 2012 00:16 Sharrant wrote:

Also, especially with the new players joining it's imperrative you check the spelling of people's names. Honestly, my name was misspelled ninety percent of the time on Day 1, it got a little annoying. And some of them were really funny on other people, like Atreides had his name bombed pretty hard.


I have to apologise for this, I have a horrible memory when it comes to names.. That said I will probably sleep now (try and reset my schedual) so I will see you all in the morning.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 22 2012 02:02 GMT
#785
Ok I woke, up.
On September 22 2012 00:43 kushm4sta wrote:

/Flame on
+ Show Spoiler +
We were town buds last game but this game I don't respect you at all. You are mostly afk basically for the first day. You make posts but they have a sum total of 0 content. You circumlocute, you say some obvious shit. The only thing that is keeping me from suspecting you is the fact that you also made no sense last game. I don't know maybe you should stop playing for a while until you learn the english language?
/Flame off

Ouch... you really do take OMGUS to a new level. I am going to wait a minute so I don’t do the same.

Yes we were town buddies last game, this is part of the reason I thought you were just acting like your normal self at the start. But you are acting like your normal self + annoyed and angry. You mentioned a test before did it really go that badly? Yes I was mostly afk by my standards, but my standards were still posting more than most people while busy with assignments. Why would I try to post as much as I can? If I were mafia I would have remained low key. Also part of the reason I messed up was because I am committed to this game. Even when I was completely exhausted(and frustrated) I make several posts because I wanted to be in this game (although I was tired to the point where I was miss reading stuff) That tired as mafia I would never post in this thread it would be insane.

I am going to ignore the part about making no sense last game and needing to learn English as that will only get me angry. My point is you seem to be far more emotional and frustrated without reason... Thrawn might be scum, but the fact is you were pushing on someone who also had the potential to be the best poster (with our two confirmed town afk) However incase you are town it would be detrimental to lose you (same with thrawn) so I will move onto the lurkers.

I have to admit Thawns logic isn’t completely easy to follow sometimes and his case on atreides did seem odd. But I will update my thoughts on the Daniel Ion case Rethos was scummy before he lied scummier after lying and almost impossible to read after he is gone...

One thing I will say is Thrawn and kush are going in circles... Daniel points this out however at the same time he tries to get the focus off that onto his remedy case.
On September 22 2012 06:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
This isn't constructive. Talk about something else pls.

Like my Remedy case.
I like my Remedy case.
Who else likes my Remedy case?
Who doesn't like my Remedy case?
Pls include reasons.


While I will talk about this it is just something that stood out. I could have confirmation bias though. Also while with reason he goes on Remedy that was also the biggest bandwagon before he was underfire.

However onto remedy. Yes he sheeps onto bad plans especially ones that would get multiple town killed. He also wasn’t around in a crucial time and comes in 9 min late(I am paraphrasing some of what thrawn wrote) However one hole I found in his case so far is


________________________________________
On September 21 2012 09:42 RemedySC wrote:
Okay, I don't think mafia got lucky in killing a blue.

Looks like other than the Sharrant read, Sonic's biggest read was Atreides-, Debears, and Killing.

All three have had good arguments made against them. Possibly they they thought Sonic might have more info.
________________________________________


Remedy this post sets off my scum alarms. I son't have any evidence (and neither do you) why mafia would have killed sonic other than that he was really townish and I don't think anyone suspected him. So when you start talking about how they might have killed him because of his reads it just makes me think there's some manipulation going on behind his nightkill and your post.


Now you seemed to miss this
On September 21 2012 09:44 RemedySC wrote:
EBWOP - I mean I think Mafia got lucky that Sonic was a blue.

Still suspicious but not as suspicious, also here
On September 21 2012 13:01 RemedySC wrote:
You know, I could see sonic role blocking you. His power also allows him to save someone, if his strongest town read was you, then he would use it on you.

He could have been trying to make thrawn look less like town, because if mafia did block him (and he didn’t lie about it) then thrawn is more likely to be town.
On September 21 2012 14:43 RemedySC wrote:
Just re-read this post and want to address it.

Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 06:09 thrawn2112 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 21 2012 05:57 kushm4sta wrote:
Just read through remedy's filter. Don't see how this guy can be anybody's "biggest read."

Your two main arguments against him.
1 He sheeped on my retarded scumteam notion.
I don't like this read because it seems like the case here is stupidity = scum. Not everyone is as enlightened as you about the uselessness of association cases. Are they bad? Yes I agree with that but I don't think making them is a scumtell.

2 His useless vote for me.
I don't see the scum motivation in this, since both our bandwagons were town. He is not following the town plan of consolidating our bandwagon, but we never made that plan concrete really.
He didn't believe in the sharrant case. He has been consistently against lynching lurkers, so that's why he wouldn't vote for cubu.

The scumteam thing is not about stupidity = scum, it's about him going along with a a dumb idea that will end up lynching at least 2 confirmed town.


I acknowledged an idea, that is all. Nothing ever came of it afterwards.


He draws attention to an idea but nothing happens with it (because no town jumps on?)

In other words I do think regent looks scummy. So does now Daniel ion though. Who looks worse? Rethos made a very impressive slip though, but should we give Daniel the time for him to convince him he is town?
However now I move onto stutters.

Twice consistently he comes in after someone calls him out. Three posts in what 48 hours? I have posted cases about him in the past for not lurking when he said he had time ect… and he sheeps onto drazak along with most people though. It’s a pity it’s harder to find stuff with him because he has lurked so much.

I know there is something else I was going to say but I forgot…

On September 22 2012 04:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 03:49 kushm4sta wrote:
Ok its wrong to say "mafia don't get bored" because that is an absolute. I would rather say, in my current sober state, that it is much less likely for scum to get bored.

Is there a chance he is scum? I doubt it but of course there is a chance.
I'm saying that I think bored mafia is more likely than mafia that uses faked boredom into quitting the game as a scum strategy.


Lol in my first mafia game as town I got really baked and then I lurked in the thread taking notes and making theories. I took a nap, woke up and proceeded to make the mother of all scummy-sounding posting sprees. So if you're town then my advice is: don't play this game high, don't even read the thread.

So you believe the boredom claim no matter if he is town or scum right? Is there a reason for you doubting he's scum or is it just a gut feeling?


Yeah don’t get baked, don’t work on 4 hours sleep, and don’t get drunk. *goes to get drunk*
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 22 2012 02:05 GMT
#786
EBWOP "I have posted cases about him in the past for not lurking when he said he had time ect"

Should read "for lurking when he said he had time"
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 22 2012 02:13 GMT
#788
On September 22 2012 11:05 thrawn2112 wrote:

I could switch to remedy. I've been thinking over the fact that my #1 scumread (rethos) is most suspicious of my #2 (remedy) scumread but I don't really know what to make of it, at least until 1 of them flips.



Yeah I just pointed this out
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 22 2012 02:20 GMT
#792
Oh that is what I was going to say... lol just an amusing comment that's all.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 22 2012 02:26 GMT
#794
I post in a hurry yes... not dyslexia but adhd.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 22 2012 05:19 GMT
#805
On September 22 2012 13:36 kushm4sta wrote:

I said it before and I will say it again. The measure of a lurker is not his post count, it's not his word count. It's matter of contribution to the scumhunt. Jacob is an active lurker, and that reeks of scum.
Can anyone even remember a stance jacob has taken? Remedy, killing, stutters, atreides, I can remember something about all of them without even looking at their filter. Jacob has been all about the bandwagon, and the half hearted accusations.

This is the second post against me.. where is the vote? Not even a fucking FOS.

First of all I wouldn’t vote for you because I feel we should lynch lurkers second I am not prone to FoSing people. (yes I did at the start of this thread but as you should know from last game I hardly ever fos’d people) I prefer to let my words and commitment to people speak for themselves. Also I wasn’t conviced as much by atreides being scum and was probably one of the first to go after stutters. Another thing to note is I was the first one to go at rethos after his spastic posts and his lying. If he is mafia and I am mafia then I would wait and hope it wasn’t noticed. If I was town and he was mafia I would obviously jump on him, If I was mafia and he was town then I would wait for someone else to pick it up so it wouldn’t seem obvious...

Also yes I am going after those other people, But I provide reasons I think they are scum point out reasons that other people have said that are good and point out reasons there arguments might not be as strong as they think. I am not mindlessly band wagoning as you seem to think.
On September 22 2012 13:36 kushm4sta wrote:
@jacob So according to this statement, we shouldn't be scumhunting active people?


We should and I am, but we should focus on a lurker lynch over an active lynch. If we happen to lynch an active player that is town we basically lose the game. Assuming a NK goes though then we lose two active town players and all we have left are lurkers. There are scum for sure in the lurkers I am almost convinced that either Daniel or remedy are scum and I also think stutters is scum.

On September 22 2012 13:36 kushm4sta wrote:
In the next part of the post he casts suspicion on dandel for trying to get people to focus on remedy. But the suspicion is so soooo slight. Read the part where he suspects dandel for shifting focus to remedy. His suspicion has the force of a feather.
Then he suspects remedy, yes the same remedy he chides dandel for investigating.


I didn’t chide dandle for investigating him I just noticed how he seemed to be using it as a distraction. I am not going to lie it is a slight suspicion. But you have to understand this is on the back of all the lying rethos did.
On September 22 2012 13:36 kushm4sta wrote:
Here is my jacob impersonation:
This guys kinda scummy, so is this guy. Who is scummier? Should we let them convince us who is scummier? Well this well is dry time to move on.

So far he has made no definitive statements, and he's already moved on to his 4th suspicion, stutters. And here he reiterates the scumminess of stutters afk timings. To accuse stutters right now makes sense, but it is also safe as fuck. Everyone is suspicious of stutters.

People need to answer these questions to find out the truth. I already have stated who I think is scummier but having the vote on Daniel. That is a pretty definite statement don’t you think?
I already pointed out I have been suspicions of stutters even before this huge afk gap. I was the one to bring up the fact that he said he would be active before the thread even started.

On September 22 2012 13:36 kushm4sta wrote:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have 1 game experience with jacob, and he can be hard to understand. But this is the same jacob as in last game. I don't know who obsed last game but killing you were there till the end. Do you concur?

No this is not the same Jacob as last game, my clone look a vacation. I assume you are trying to say is this the same Jacob? You tell me to learn English...
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 22 2012 05:30 GMT
#809
On September 22 2012 14:21 kushm4sta wrote:
edwop this is NOT the same jacob lol


Ha serves you right, now about scum reads.

Dandel/stutters/kush/remedy. However I think remedy and danel both being mafia is unlikely. Yes I would be willing to go for stutters for obvious reasons. The entire thread I have been going at him but haven’t been able to come up with a large enough argument due to him lurking.

Also yeah I honestly thing that scum voted for drazak and with stutters kush both being scum reads I wouldn't dispute this. I doubt there is a hole in the mason claim if there is well.... (who is yourharry?) I am not convinced about 3 but stutters is lurking at the same time. I think 4 is true, I am noticing the same synergy I was getting with kush last game. (although that part of it is a feel read)
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 22 2012 05:32 GMT
#810
On September 22 2012 14:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
Jacob, (and actually everyone else who's done this) I don't like "if I was mafia" arguments. Because if you are mafia, then obviously you will lie about what you would do if you were mafia!

Lots of people have been making those arguments this whole game and I actually start getting suspicious when I see them. At best it gives a null read on your true intentions.


Hmm that is true... I am just putting in what I would do as mafia but I see your point.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 22 2012 05:35 GMT
#812
uhh ok...
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 22 2012 05:39 GMT
#814
^ I think stutters and Kush might be both mafia but all going all in like that is a little much...
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 22 2012 06:02 GMT
#818
Ok lol I actually pm'd him so...
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 22 2012 08:33 GMT
#823
Going out for dinner soon but I think I just had a click moment. Not regarding thrawn I will need to look at that later but I will investigate it and post if the logic checks out.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 22 2012 11:01 GMT
#825
Still no posts? Ok I am going to post this while I haven't drunk much, I think Stutters is scum, however something clicked. If we have an SK and if he wasn't blocked who would it be? Sharrent posted why and SK wouldn't kill someone but that was close to the deadline if I remember. Stutters was AFK almost the whole night and just say he actually was busy... he wouldn't have put in a target to kill.

This is relient on a few factors though, however even if he isn't Sk he is very likely to be mafia. For the reasons I have been listing along everyone elses arguments.

Also Tommorow is sunday morning and also my birthday so I will be awake a few hours before the lynch but I might have to pick my sister up so..

Lynch time is 10 my time I should be up around 7-8 so this time if someone is going to rolecall do it then or before lol. I should be up to late tonight and I don't plan on drinking that much...
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
September 22 2012 11:08 GMT
#826
Oh and just to clarify this isn't a click everything makes sence but it's a hey this is a possibility type click.
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