EPTScum have plenty of reason to lie, town don't. Just say he was town.. he wouldn't see himself as more a target than anyone else who is lurking. I think guilt gave him away. Also if he is town and lies.... then he is playing the game very wrong...
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JacobStrangelove
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Scum have plenty of reason to lie, town don't. Just say he was town.. he wouldn't see himself as more a target than anyone else who is lurking. I think guilt gave him away. Also if he is town and lies.... then he is playing the game very wrong... | ||
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KillingTime
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On September 21 2012 18:11 rethos wrote: Actually no.. I am sorry to all of you. But it really seems that playing mafia is really not for me. I got bored and did not want to post any more. Now I am trying to catch up and can't get bring myself to it. Yes I lied about having this weird plan of lurking intentionally. I lurked because I did not have motivation to do anything. Again I am really really sorry. I will ask for a replacement. If lynch lurkers is a decent policy - then Lynching liars, (even bad ones) is an essential policy ( from what I have read). I am sort of null on you because I don't see how your posts today help mafia or town at all but I can come up with plausible scenarios why both would do this - just totally barf worthy. I am not great at his game yet, but I am going to be annoyed if this is another game where d1 &2 are dominated by terrible town play. I am still going to look later and see if I can find a better scum - but for now. Vote##: rethos | ||
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thrawn2112
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On September 21 2012 18:47 JacobStrangelove wrote: I don't see comfirmation bias in that, in the space of about 4 posts he has lied several times. One he lies about being bored. Two he lies about his defense not being based on intentinal lurking and he admits to lying about having the plan in this first place. Scum have plenty of reason to lie, town don't. Just say he was town.. he wouldn't see himself as more a target than anyone else who is lurking. I think guilt gave him away. Also if he is town and lies.... then he is playing the game very wrong... It does look he was feeling very guilty. He gets called out for lurking and then says he was lurking intentionally to test the strength of the lurker policy. Well why does that need to be tested in the first place? How will that help catch scum? Then you question him about that plan, he says his defense wasn't that he had a lurking plan after clearly stating that he did, then when I quote him on that he goes back to his first claim saying that he wass trying to call attention to lurkers, then finally he says he was lying about the lurker plan and that he's bored with the game. Him being bored is definitely not what I saw in his D1 posts and in this new series of posts. His post at the top of the last page has several other scummy things in it that I pointed out so ##Vote rethos | ||
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KillingTime
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thrawn2112
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On September 21 2012 19:11 KillingTime wrote: I sort of feel he is breaking the rules here and messing up the game. Saying explicitly with like 36hrs of a day left that you are going to get replaced in thread - when the first post explicitly says that you should PM the mod and that you can't get modkilled to help you team - seems to violate the spirit of those rules if not the exact letter for me. Meh I guess that is a mess for the mods to sort out and not us. But this is not cool there's a difference in being modkilled and being replaced but yeah it's not for us to talk about while the game is still going | ||
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marvellosity
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On September 21 2012 19:11 KillingTime wrote: I sort of feel he is breaking the rules here and messing up the game. Saying explicitly with like 36hrs of a day left that you are going to get replaced in thread - when the first post explicitly says that you should PM the mod and that you can't get modkilled to help you team - seems to violate the spirit of those rules if not the exact letter for me. Meh I guess that is a mess for the mods to sort out and not us. But this is not cool Yes, I agree with you mostly. As it is though, I am loathe to simply modkill if I can avoid it, so I will search for a replacement. There's no 100% solution in these circumstances. | ||
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Dandel Ion
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Bear with me, like a true comfort woman bears a child. | ||
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Dandel Ion
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Anywhoo, first things first for the people concerned with meta and such things: I played town (VT) in NMM XIII I played horrible scum in NMM XV Also, some LOGIC about the roleblock and nightkill to start things off: On September 21 2012 13:10 thrawn2112 wrote: If the reasoning behind that is that he is trying to save his strongest town read then it would have gone to either of the 2 confirmed masons. Anyway there are tons of possible explanations of the roleblock and no reason to believe any of more than any other so I'd rather not speculate about it. SDM probably roleblocked you. In fact, IF you have been roleblocked, it was SDM. Reasoning: It was redundant for him to roleblock one of the masons. You all treat the masons as confirmed town, but they really are not. As long as none of them flip, there will remain some doubt. And it could possibly surface at a very bad time for town. It would be incredibly stupid for scum to shoot one mason, and leave the other in the game. During Night 1, that is. Now the thing is, scum got lucky and hit the jailkeeper, which means they could possibly kill Sharrant and Sharky during the next 2 nightphases. If they did not hit the JK, they wouldn't be practiaclly able to whack either, because the JK could just camp the confirmed town. Sure, scum can then hit anyone else, but that's a long time to leave a confirmed townie running around. Might as well start shooting into the crowd right away. Which they did. tl;dr: SDM was a smart man. And scum is unfortunately not mentally handicapped. Also, EVERY roleblock happening absolutely needs to be claimed. I would think that should be a no-brainer for townies, but I want to say it. If there's anyone else that got roleblocked during the night, please claim too. | ||
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